<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: College Football Finally Is Getting a Playoff! Kind of.</title> <atom:link href="http://thebiglead.com/?feed=rss2&#038;p=2744" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/</link> <description>Not just another sports blog.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:01:02 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Jarrett</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56461</link> <dc:creator>Jarrett</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56461</guid> <description>Tim Tebow didn&#039;t give f*ck then, he doesn&#039;t give a f*ck now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Tebow didn&#8217;t give f*ck then, he doesn&#8217;t give a f*ck now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56452</link> <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:49:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56452</guid> <description>In addition to the win over Oklahoma, Boise State also beat Oregon State (which won 10 games and beat USC) by 4 touchdowns and Hawaii (which won 11 games).Having said that, no tournament &quot;guarantees&quot; that the best team wins.  The results of one game are not a reliable indicator that the winner is superior to the loser, even if the margin of victory is wide.  Just because USC trounced Oklahoma, 55-19, in the BCS title game in January 2005, it didn&#039;t *necessarily* mean that USC was objectively better.  If they had played ten times, you might have had two USC blowouts, two Oklahoma blowouts and six close games.  Or you could have had several games like the one that was actually played.  We can never know.The point is that we don&#039;t set out to identify the &quot;best&quot; team-- a nebulous concept that can only be reliably determined by a large sample size of head-to-head matchups that is impossible in a college or pro football season.  The goal is to determine a champion.  Over 162 games last year, the Mets seemed pretty clearly to be the &quot;best&quot; team in the N.L. (nine games better than the next-best record), but they did not become champions.  Being the &quot;best&quot; was no consolation.So, we need to let go of the fallacy that we&#039;re determining the &quot;best&quot; team and just have a system where everyone has a fair and equal chance to become champion, such as those proposed above in which conference champions play off for the title.  Consequently, we need a system in which every team has an equal chance to win its conference championship.  For example, last year, Wisconsin did not get to play Ohio State.  Every conference should emulate the Pac-10 and Big East, requiring every team to play every conference opponent.  The SEC and Big Ten do not schedule this way now because they don&#039;t want to risk additional losses for their teams that might keep them out of the BCS.  A system in which only conference champions get to play off for the title would make this concern moot.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the win over Oklahoma, Boise State also beat Oregon State (which won 10 games and beat USC) by 4 touchdowns and Hawaii (which won 11 games).</p><p>Having said that, no tournament &#8220;guarantees&#8221; that the best team wins.  The results of one game are not a reliable indicator that the winner is superior to the loser, even if the margin of victory is wide.  Just because USC trounced Oklahoma, 55-19, in the BCS title game in January 2005, it didn&#8217;t *necessarily* mean that USC was objectively better.  If they had played ten times, you might have had two USC blowouts, two Oklahoma blowouts and six close games.  Or you could have had several games like the one that was actually played.  We can never know.</p><p>The point is that we don&#8217;t set out to identify the &#8220;best&#8221; team&#8211; a nebulous concept that can only be reliably determined by a large sample size of head-to-head matchups that is impossible in a college or pro football season.  The goal is to determine a champion.  Over 162 games last year, the Mets seemed pretty clearly to be the &#8220;best&#8221; team in the N.L. (nine games better than the next-best record), but they did not become champions.  Being the &#8220;best&#8221; was no consolation.</p><p>So, we need to let go of the fallacy that we&#8217;re determining the &#8220;best&#8221; team and just have a system where everyone has a fair and equal chance to become champion, such as those proposed above in which conference champions play off for the title.  Consequently, we need a system in which every team has an equal chance to win its conference championship.  For example, last year, Wisconsin did not get to play Ohio State.  Every conference should emulate the Pac-10 and Big East, requiring every team to play every conference opponent.  The SEC and Big Ten do not schedule this way now because they don&#8217;t want to risk additional losses for their teams that might keep them out of the BCS.  A system in which only conference champions get to play off for the title would make this concern moot.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bruce</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56382</link> <dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56382</guid> <description>There are six BCS conferences. Take the top two teams from each conference, and say, the champions of Conference USA, the WAC, MAC and Mountain West. Or, instead of the C-USA, and to appease NBC and every other bandwagon fan in the country, keep a spot reserved for Notre Dame, since they feel they deserve special treatment(or better yet, force them to join a conference). There&#039;s your 16 teams. No mess, no fuss...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are six BCS conferences. Take the top two teams from each conference, and say, the champions of Conference USA, the WAC, MAC and Mountain West. Or, instead of the C-USA, and to appease NBC and every other bandwagon fan in the country, keep a spot reserved for Notre Dame, since they feel they deserve special treatment(or better yet, force them to join a conference). There&#8217;s your 16 teams. No mess, no fuss&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DoubleB</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56378</link> <dc:creator>DoubleB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:45:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56378</guid> <description>Mike:Do you watch football or just look at some scores on Saturday night?  That was an Oklahoma team that was Big XII champions would have been in the national title discussion had it not been for the Oregon debacle.  Boise handled them in the first half and OU needed a fluky TO on a punt to get back in the game.  Otherwise, Boise probably wins by 10 in regulation.   Is there anything they could have done to convince you they were a top 5 football team?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p><p>Do you watch football or just look at some scores on Saturday night?  That was an Oklahoma team that was Big XII champions would have been in the national title discussion had it not been for the Oregon debacle.  Boise handled them in the first half and OU needed a fluky TO on a punt to get back in the game.  Otherwise, Boise probably wins by 10 in regulation.   Is there anything they could have done to convince you they were a top 5 football team?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sean</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56293</link> <dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56293</guid> <description>I think 2011 is when TV contracts and so forth expire.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 2011 is when TV contracts and so forth expire.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MookieFL</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56273</link> <dc:creator>MookieFL</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56273</guid> <description>rs27: I think one difference is that big upsets (where one school is smaller and has less overall talent) are much less likely in football than in basketball.  In basketball, one player can much more easily dictate the outcome of a single game.  In football, the deeper team filled with better athletes usually wins out.  Seemingly every Saturday, some top-20 team is losing 14-3 to a no-name school, but wins 45-17 after a huge second half, once the other team&#039;s starters get tired.A four team playoff is better than none--I&#039;d rather have arguments about the 4th and 5th best teams than about the 2nd and 3rd.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rs27: I think one difference is that big upsets (where one school is smaller and has less overall talent) are much less likely in football than in basketball.  In basketball, one player can much more easily dictate the outcome of a single game.  In football, the deeper team filled with better athletes usually wins out.  Seemingly every Saturday, some top-20 team is losing 14-3 to a no-name school, but wins 45-17 after a huge second half, once the other team&#8217;s starters get tired.</p><p>A four team playoff is better than none&#8211;I&#8217;d rather have arguments about the 4th and 5th best teams than about the 2nd and 3rd.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56266</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:43:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56266</guid> <description>Brian is right -- four is enough. There will always be some teams &quot;left out.&quot; TBL, how does it &quot;solve nothing&quot;?BSU didn&#039;t deserve to be in a theoretical Top 4 last year anyway. I don&#039;t understand all the slurping over this team. Wow, you beat &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; pretty good team, in OU, by a single point. Congratulations. That alone does not guarantee you a shot at the title.And is there a reason they have to wait until 2011? Too lazy to read the link.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian is right &#8212; four is enough. There will always be some teams &#8220;left out.&#8221; TBL, how does it &#8220;solve nothing&#8221;?</p><p>BSU didn&#8217;t deserve to be in a theoretical Top 4 last year anyway. I don&#8217;t understand all the slurping over this team. Wow, you beat <i>one</i> pretty good team, in OU, by a single point. Congratulations. That alone does not guarantee you a shot at the title.</p><p>And is there a reason they have to wait until 2011? Too lazy to read the link.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rs27</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56261</link> <dc:creator>rs27</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:37:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56261</guid> <description>You can make a case that most of the last 20 years of the NCAA tourney the best team  or top 5 team during the regular season DID win..the only abberrations I can think of are 2006 Florida ( but they backed it up in 07) 2003 Syracuse 97 Arizona, 91 Duke and 88 Kansas..Thats a pretty good percentage for the last 20 years..I like this playoff structure..You would have gotten two great semis and a good final  with the final teams not having 9000 days off..Also it would have been OSU-Michigan and Florida-LSU..just nitpicking..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make a case that most of the last 20 years of the NCAA tourney the best team  or top 5 team during the regular season DID win..the only abberrations I can think of are 2006 Florida ( but they backed it up in 07) 2003 Syracuse 97 Arizona, 91 Duke and 88 Kansas..Thats a pretty good percentage for the last 20 years..I like this playoff structure..You would have gotten two great semis and a good final  with the final teams not having 9000 days off..Also it would have been OSU-Michigan and Florida-LSU..just nitpicking..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Heath</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56260</link> <dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:30:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56260</guid> <description>&quot;Obviously this solves nothing; last year, we may have seen something like Florida vs. LSU and USC vs. Ohio State with the winners squaring off for the title. And sadly, Boise State would have been left out.&quot;Actually as the article points out (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07172007/photos/sports068.jpg), USC wouldnt even have been involved with the way the BCS rankings stood  before the bowls. Lets not kid around either. Boise State would not have pulled of TWO miracles to win the natl title either. This is an improvement for the fans, but like all things in life, there are negatives. Id take that set up though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obviously this solves nothing; last year, we may have seen something like Florida vs. LSU and USC vs. Ohio State with the winners squaring off for the title. And sadly, Boise State would have been left out.&#8221;</p><p>Actually as the article points out (<a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/07172007/photos/sports068.jpg)" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/07172007/photos/sports068.jpg)</a>, USC wouldnt even have been involved with the way the BCS rankings stood  before the bowls. Lets not kid around either. Boise State would not have pulled of TWO miracles to win the natl title either. This is an improvement for the fans, but like all things in life, there are negatives. Id take that set up though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rudy</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/07/17/college-football-finally-is-getting-a-playoff-kind-of/comment-page-1/#comment-56259</link> <dc:creator>rudy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:24:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=2744#comment-56259</guid> <description>You are so stupid.  It is not perfect, but it is leaps and bounds better than the current system.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so stupid.  It is not perfect, but it is leaps and bounds better than the current system.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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