Comments on: It’s Soooo Going to be Mattingly

By: Dirty Sanchez

Dirty Sanchez — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:30:17 +0000

49er – The O’s fans should give a crap, but they should care about their lack of a real baseball person to make their personnel decisions for the past decade (although hiring McPhail is a positive step) or how Angelos takes them for granted by fielding AAAA quality teams and not even trying to compete with the Red Sox and Yankees. Angelos crying poor about those two while banking serious $$$ from MASN’s rights (a gift from MLB) is not only incorrect, it’s an insult to their fans.

I’m glad that fans aren’t just flocking to the ballpark to see David Segui and Sidney Ponson or whatever scrap heap garbage that’s fed to them by management. My point was that it seems petty to bitch about Millar throwing out a pitch when there are much greater problems at the Warehouse. I mean, I’m a Pirate fan but I wouldn’t care if Matt Morris went back to STL and threw out a pitch for a playoff game. But I guess every fan will have their own take on it.

I realize Matt Morris is a poor comparison to the Millar incident, but what do you want. I’m a Pirates fan and their team sucks.

By: cbh49er

cbh49er — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:00:48 +0000

Dirty Sanchez, you haven’t noticed the pathetic attendance at Camden Yards unless the Yankees or Red Sox are in town? I would say that is a sign of Orioles fans having enough.

I don’t care what your past is, you don’t throw out a first pitch for a team you don’t play for, especially when that team is in your God damned division!

Basically, your post is hypocritical because on one hand you are saying since the Orioles are basically dead their fans shouldn’t give a crap, while at the same time chiding them for giving a crap.

I also don’t understand how picking up Jeff Conine would placate any inferiority complex, A-Rod on the other hand….

By: Darrell

Darrell — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:56:33 +0000

It is also important to note that Sprewell never made the ” I got my family to feed” quote in regards to not being offered enough money as has often been portrayed. The quote was made regarding taking the chance of playing out the season, helping Minnesota try to win a championship and negotiating afterwards. He said: “Why would I want to help them win a title?” he said. “They’re not doing anything for me. I’m at risk. I have a lot of risk here. I got my family to feed. Anything could happen.” So, he was insulted by his contract offer like Torre was insulted by the terms of his contract. All this talk about Baseball Managers not being important or not having much to do with whether a team wins or loses is ridiculous. Who decides on who to pitch in a playoff game? Who decides when to pull the pitcher? Who decides the pitch count? Who decides to hit and run? Who decides to bring in the infield? Who decides to sacrifice bunt? Just because a manager isn’t calling plays on every play doesn’t mean the position is less important or doesn’t involve strategy.

By: Chelsea Chris

Chelsea Chris — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:22:32 +0000

tedkerwin – MLB/NBA/NHL do not require anything for interviewing people. Only the NFL does.

By: tedkerwin

tedkerwin — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:18:37 +0000

Baseball requires teams to interview minority candidates for manager spots right? Does Pena fill that need or do the Yanks need to go find someone else to interview to avoid the bad PR and nominal fine.

By: frothy

frothy — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:11:24 +0000

By the way, I’m not sure why anyone would want Tony Pena as the manager, considering he wasn’t terribly good with an admittedly bad Royals team.

What about Davey Johnson? Heh? Sparky Anderson’s still alive. Yogi Berra?

By: frothy

frothy — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:07:02 +0000

It’s important to remember that Torre wasn’t insulted by the amount he was being offered, he was bothered by the incentives clause. Sure, players frequently have these clauses, but they’re keyed to individual performance, such as $40,000 for hitting 50 HR, or something. It doesn’t seem reasonable to me to key a manager’s salary to a team’s win total, because in baseball the manager cannot affect the game at the same level of the individual player (for one), nor at the same level as say a football or basketball coach (for another). I mean, what if the Yankees had lost 300 man-games to injury in 2008, leaving them with 71 wins? I’d love it, but how would that be the fault of the manager?

Torre knew he didn’t have to take the contract. It ain’t even in the same ballpark, pardon the pun, as Sprewell’s comment. Torre could sit an entire year, or he could join BBT, or he could – gulp! – manage the Pirates. I just don’t get the sense it was about the money for him at all.

By: Dirty Sanchez

Dirty Sanchez — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:03:26 +0000

I live in the Baltimore area, so I’ve heard a great deal about the “traitor” Millar throwing out the first pitch for the Sox. My response is “Are you F***ing kidding me?” The Orioles have been dying a slow death for the past decade, their ownership puts out a shit team full of re-treads and has-beens year after year (which is why Millar is in an Orioles uni in the first place), and now all of a sudden O’s fans are up in arms about something?

Kevin Millar was part one of the best sports stories of our time, so what if he throws out the first pitch for the team that he is most remembered as part of? It isn’t like he took off his Orioles jersey and took a dump on it. The guy is one of the few players on the O’s that actually hustles and give a damn. Maybe he should be cut so the Orioles can pick up Jeff Conine for the 20th time and placate the B-More fans and their raging inferiority complex.

By: pkiguy22

pkiguy22 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:01:24 +0000

Just finished reading the Boras article. Thanks for the link TBL. I recommend it to everyone else. It is a big long, but I think it accurately depicts the guy. I never heard anything good about him before, and now I know why. Teams like the Yankees and Red Sox, actually should thank him because he is essentially pricing all the younger talented players out of the small market teams budget.

By: FanBash

FanBash — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:00:29 +0000

Going to be Mattingly. Should be Girardi. It can’t be anyone but Mattingly because they’d only be holding down the managerial seat on the bench while Donny Baseball waits in the wings. Girardi or Pena can’t be expected to manage with their go to guy doubling as the near future replacement.