<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: From the No Shit Sherlock Files: Bloggers Aren&#8217;t Journalists</title> <atom:link href="http://thebiglead.com/?feed=rss2&#038;p=3590" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/</link> <description>Not just another sports blog.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:47:24 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Matt C</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76057</link> <dc:creator>Matt C</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:13:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76057</guid> <description>Obviously the author of that article is going to be incinerated here, but, honestly, how many people read this site just for the subsequent discussion?  The level of &quot;analysis&quot; and humor in the posts is about what I would get out of every single buddy I talk to every week, and the factual accuracy is that of a random guy at a bar after about 8 drinks.  That&#039;s okay; it&#039;s not what I come here for.I read this blog because I can stomach one blog and this is the one I found first.  It&#039;s not exactly irreplaceable.  Plus, I can enjoy reading all of the piling on ESPN without being angered by the hypocrisy, because you&#039;re not making much, if any, money off of this!  It&#039;s perfect!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the author of that article is going to be incinerated here, but, honestly, how many people read this site just for the subsequent discussion?  The level of &#8220;analysis&#8221; and humor in the posts is about what I would get out of every single buddy I talk to every week, and the factual accuracy is that of a random guy at a bar after about 8 drinks.  That&#8217;s okay; it&#8217;s not what I come here for.</p><p>I read this blog because I can stomach one blog and this is the one I found first.  It&#8217;s not exactly irreplaceable.  Plus, I can enjoy reading all of the piling on ESPN without being angered by the hypocrisy, because you&#8217;re not making much, if any, money off of this!  It&#8217;s perfect!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: matty</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76037</link> <dc:creator>matty</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:46:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76037</guid> <description>Whenever the traditional media vs. new media bit comes up, bloggers always point to the cream of the crop (Abbott, maybe Deadspin) in their field and point to the Jayson Blairs and ESPNs in the established side.But honestly, for every good reporting sports blog, there are dozens of awful ones, occasionally posting the right rumor at the right time. I remember before Frank Broyles announced his retirement, some guy on a messageboard claimed to have inside knowledge that Frank was going to finally call it quits. Forget that this guy with inside knowledge posted under the name &quot;Pork Rind Jimmy,&quot; and that speculation of his retirement was rampant, people ate that up and thought he was a prophet.Speaking of Broyles, I covered his retirement party last Friday. For what i&#039;m doing in the traditional media, the story was about famous well wishers, the Jerry Joneses and Barry Switzers. But if I was writing for a blog, I&#039;d probably open with something about how Frank can really put away some catfish, and how he is so salt of the earth he&#039;d take a few bites, and tell anyone they just had to taste it. I think that&#039;s the thing, bloggers fill niches the traditional media can&#039;t always fill.What I&#039;d be worried about if I was a fan of blogs is the current co-opting of them by big companies. I&#039;m sure if you asked any journalist what the biggest problem with media is, they&#039;d really quickly tell you corporate ownership, that they no longer serve their readers, but their readers and their company&#039;s shareholders. These are the folks that tell reporters and editors to do more with less. You always do less with less. Then again, don&#039;t bloggers sometimes have the very least to begin with?Sorry dudes, that was long. Next time i&#039;ll try to be more succinct.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever the traditional media vs. new media bit comes up, bloggers always point to the cream of the crop (Abbott, maybe Deadspin) in their field and point to the Jayson Blairs and ESPNs in the established side.</p><p>But honestly, for every good reporting sports blog, there are dozens of awful ones, occasionally posting the right rumor at the right time. I remember before Frank Broyles announced his retirement, some guy on a messageboard claimed to have inside knowledge that Frank was going to finally call it quits. Forget that this guy with inside knowledge posted under the name &#8220;Pork Rind Jimmy,&#8221; and that speculation of his retirement was rampant, people ate that up and thought he was a prophet.</p><p>Speaking of Broyles, I covered his retirement party last Friday. For what i&#8217;m doing in the traditional media, the story was about famous well wishers, the Jerry Joneses and Barry Switzers. But if I was writing for a blog, I&#8217;d probably open with something about how Frank can really put away some catfish, and how he is so salt of the earth he&#8217;d take a few bites, and tell anyone they just had to taste it. I think that&#8217;s the thing, bloggers fill niches the traditional media can&#8217;t always fill.</p><p>What I&#8217;d be worried about if I was a fan of blogs is the current co-opting of them by big companies. I&#8217;m sure if you asked any journalist what the biggest problem with media is, they&#8217;d really quickly tell you corporate ownership, that they no longer serve their readers, but their readers and their company&#8217;s shareholders. These are the folks that tell reporters and editors to do more with less. You always do less with less. Then again, don&#8217;t bloggers sometimes have the very least to begin with?</p><p>Sorry dudes, that was long. Next time i&#8217;ll try to be more succinct.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: maxbcat</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76036</link> <dc:creator>maxbcat</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:40:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76036</guid> <description>Gang-The rebuttal from the website that goat McCoskey&#039;s goat...http://www.detroitsportsrag.com/b2evolution/index.php</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gang-</p><p>The rebuttal from the website that goat McCoskey&#8217;s goat&#8230;</p><p><a href="http://www.detroitsportsrag.com/b2evolution/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.detroitsportsrag.com/b2evolution/index.php</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BBB</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76034</link> <dc:creator>BBB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:04:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76034</guid> <description>Dear Chris McCosky,I too went to school and have a journalism degree!The reason I left newspapers is because I am smart enough to recognize a dying dinosaur. I also got tired of working around self-righteous pricks like you, who think they are the only ones who could possibly know squat!Please continue your rants, so everyone can see how much you actually detest those who take the time to rest your garbage. I am sure your circulation department will just love you.TBL - Whether they are in sports or straight news, people like this are the reason journalist and reporters have a reputation lower than lawyers and used car salesmen!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Chris McCosky,</p><p>I too went to school and have a journalism degree!</p><p>The reason I left newspapers is because I am smart enough to recognize a dying dinosaur. I also got tired of working around self-righteous pricks like you, who think they are the only ones who could possibly know squat!</p><p>Please continue your rants, so everyone can see how much you actually detest those who take the time to rest your garbage. I am sure your circulation department will just love you.</p><p>TBL &#8211; Whether they are in sports or straight news, people like this are the reason journalist and reporters have a reputation lower than lawyers and used car salesmen!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ScottVanPeltStyle</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76029</link> <dc:creator>ScottVanPeltStyle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:56:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76029</guid> <description>I actually went to school and got a degree in journalism, and I must say, there&#039;s more balance in blogging than in 90 percent of sports reporting.That, and fans can appreciate a coherent thought from other fans far moreso than an air-filled, arrogant commentary from a columnist who thinks he&#039;s The Voice of the People.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually went to school and got a degree in journalism, and I must say, there&#8217;s more balance in blogging than in 90 percent of sports reporting.</p><p>That, and fans can appreciate a coherent thought from other fans far moreso than an air-filled, arrogant commentary from a columnist who thinks he&#8217;s The Voice of the People.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lozo</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76025</link> <dc:creator>lozo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:04:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76025</guid> <description>i just want to say i think it&#039;s funny that my name was put in quotes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just want to say i think it&#8217;s funny that my name was put in quotes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tyduffy</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76024</link> <dc:creator>tyduffy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:07:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76024</guid> <description>He has a point about the trained professionalism thing.  Though, as a history major now doing a masters in journalism, I find it hard to believe that someone could actually do an entire degree learning how to write in news style.That said, could he have some more original rants?  Who is on his radar for next week?  Bill Simmons?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has a point about the trained professionalism thing.  Though, as a history major now doing a masters in journalism, I find it hard to believe that someone could actually do an entire degree learning how to write in news style.</p><p>That said, could he have some more original rants?  Who is on his radar for next week?  Bill Simmons?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mikeychx</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76023</link> <dc:creator>mikeychx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:06:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76023</guid> <description>this kind of reminds me of web site developers who went to school to learn how to write code...then Dreamweaver came out. WYSIWYG pissed all of these gusy off because there years of schooling and training didnt matter any more..suddenly anyone could design a website...and most were better than the code developers....Blogging is the same...anyone can have an article now....anyone can have an audience..you dont need to go through years of being a beat writer to be a internet success...if it were me...Id be pissed too...I would have to ask myself if all o those years in journalism school were a waste of time</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this kind of reminds me of web site developers who went to school to learn how to write code&#8230;then Dreamweaver came out. WYSIWYG pissed all of these gusy off because there years of schooling and training didnt matter any more..suddenly anyone could design a website&#8230;and most were better than the code developers&#8230;.Blogging is the same&#8230;anyone can have an article now&#8230;.anyone can have an audience..you dont need to go through years of being a beat writer to be a internet success&#8230;if it were me&#8230;Id be pissed too&#8230;I would have to ask myself if all o those years in journalism school were a waste of time</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mikeychx</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76022</link> <dc:creator>mikeychx</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76022</guid> <description>Well...the difference between most &quot;professionals&quot; and &quot;non- professionals&quot; is a paycheck...It doesnt take a college dergree to opine on something....Alot of the professionals are horrible anywaysSee: Gregg Easterbrook See: McCoskyAdditionally....what guy  between 10 and 50 wears pajamas anyways?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;the difference between most &#8220;professionals&#8221; and &#8220;non- professionals&#8221; is a paycheck&#8230;</p><p>It doesnt take a college dergree to opine on something&#8230;.</p><p>Alot of the professionals are horrible anyways</p><p>See: Gregg Easterbrook<br /> See: McCosky</p><p>Additionally&#8230;.what guy  between 10 and 50 wears pajamas anyways?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PBR999</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2007/11/03/from-the-no-shit-sherlock-files-bloggers-arent-journalists/comment-page-1/#comment-76021</link> <dc:creator>PBR999</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:32:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=3590#comment-76021</guid> <description>couldnt he think of something better to say than &quot;a guy wearing pajamas in his basement?&quot; isnt that old by now ?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>couldnt he think of something better to say than &#8220;a guy wearing pajamas in his basement?&#8221; isnt that old by now ?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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