Comments on: Media News & Notes http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/ Not just another sports blog. Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:57:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: jaywasherehttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197886 jaywashere Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:01:09 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197886 On a final note, I think a lot of this may stem from a certain level of jealousy. Yes, Leitch has a much higher profile currently than Jason, but he's never truly been in control of his site and has always had to defer to some creative direction from above at Gawker. And the folks at Gawker are all about the page views, so I guarantee you that their policy is: when in doubt, if it's hot, just run it. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that, but it's true. And before Leitch gets too big of a head, just about anyone who can write half decently could build up a large blog under the Gawker brand - it's much more difficult flying solo and the consequences are different when you actually own the site. On a final note, I think a lot of this may stem from a certain level of jealousy. Yes, Leitch has a much higher profile currently than Jason, but he’s never truly been in control of his site and has always had to defer to some creative direction from above at Gawker. And the folks at Gawker are all about the page views, so I guarantee you that their policy is: when in doubt, if it’s hot, just run it. Not that there’s necessarily anything wrong with that, but it’s true. And before Leitch gets too big of a head, just about anyone who can write half decently could build up a large blog under the Gawker brand – it’s much more difficult flying solo and the consequences are different when you actually own the site.

]]> By: jaywasherehttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197878 jaywashere Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:35:49 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197878 Oh, and I have to second what Big L said above: I too haven't really read Deadspin much in the past several months, or actually ever since they started chopping their articles so short before the jump. It's nice to see Jason actually interacting here in the comments, and there's a lot more creative writing (like the article on top sportswriters' salaries). Oh, and I have to second what Big L said above: I too haven’t really read Deadspin much in the past several months, or actually ever since they started chopping their articles so short before the jump. It’s nice to see Jason actually interacting here in the comments, and there’s a lot more creative writing (like the article on top sportswriters’ salaries).

]]> By: jaywasherehttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197877 jaywashere Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:31:42 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197877 Fuck Leitch... I appreciate what he's done and all, but who made him the blogfather? It's your site, do whatever the hell you want with it. He acts as though listening to what he says to do is somehow more noble than listening to someone in the "mainstream." And yes, it's not crazy to think you might adjust the way you operate once your audience grows; that is a far cry from selling out like Rick Reilly.And know what else? Everyone commended Will for how he remained calm once Bissinger went crazy; I was actually pretty disappointed, and my initial reaction was: GROW A PAIR! If he really wanted to make Buzz look foolish, he should have stood up for himself FACE TO FACE, not afterwards on Deadspin. Fuck Leitch… I appreciate what he’s done and all, but who made him the blogfather? It’s your site, do whatever the hell you want with it. He acts as though listening to what he says to do is somehow more noble than listening to someone in the “mainstream.” And yes, it’s not crazy to think you might adjust the way you operate once your audience grows; that is a far cry from selling out like Rick Reilly.

And know what else? Everyone commended Will for how he remained calm once Bissinger went crazy; I was actually pretty disappointed, and my initial reaction was: GROW A PAIR! If he really wanted to make Buzz look foolish, he should have stood up for himself FACE TO FACE, not afterwards on Deadspin.

]]> By: DBDRhttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197827 DBDR Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:22:41 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197827 Some good points by a lot of you. I think the point that really hits home is that the MSM would love to see the blogosphere spend more time fighting amongst each other than focusing on what they have done to this point to become successful.I think you can read KSK, Deadspin, TBL, etc. and enjoy them all for different reasons. Just like some people have subscriptions to Sports Illustrated and ESPN the Magazine...ok, bad example, but you get my drift. Some good points by a lot of you. I think the point that really hits home is that the MSM would love to see the blogosphere spend more time fighting amongst each other than focusing on what they have done to this point to become successful.

I think you can read KSK, Deadspin, TBL, etc. and enjoy them all for different reasons. Just like some people have subscriptions to Sports Illustrated and ESPN the Magazine…ok, bad example, but you get my drift.

]]> By: Big Lhttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197825 Big L Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:17:03 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197825 I read TBL and others (even WithLeather(just for the pics)) but I can honestly say I havent checked Deadspin regularly in the last 8 months, same tired shit with no real value. With TBL you get a good mix of everything and even the roundup is money. I dont comment a lot but dumb shit like this drags me out. Fuck Leitch, real convienent he leaves in a weak. At least here people can comment on shit and it not be one-liners. I am not saying they dont spiral into jokes but there are some serious responses to which even Jason responds, when was the last time you saw Leitch in the comments....I can tell you I havent been there in awhile and just deleted them from my favorites. I read TBL and others (even WithLeather(just for the pics)) but I can honestly say I havent checked Deadspin regularly in the last 8 months, same tired shit with no real value. With TBL you get a good mix of everything and even the roundup is money. I dont comment a lot but dumb shit like this drags me out. Fuck Leitch, real convienent he leaves in a weak. At least here people can comment on shit and it not be one-liners. I am not saying they dont spiral into jokes but there are some serious responses to which even Jason responds, when was the last time you saw Leitch in the comments….I can tell you I havent been there in awhile and just deleted them from my favorites.

]]> By: chicagohttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197817 chicago Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:32:43 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197817 oh and I LOVED how Leitch just blatantly gave Daulerio a pass. That's really fucking convenient for your bullshit, Will. oh and I LOVED how Leitch just blatantly gave Daulerio a pass. That’s really fucking convenient for your bullshit, Will.

]]> By: chicagohttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197814 chicago Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:28:15 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197814 I think Irish already said it but damn- 412 is on fire today. I'm way late getting on here to comment about this, but I pretty much agree with everything he said. I think Irish already said it but damn- 412 is on fire today. I’m way late getting on here to comment about this, but I pretty much agree with everything he said.

]]> By: Joboohttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197793 Joboo Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:16:29 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197793 I think the Deadspin comment about changing up the blog because it becomes more popular is pretty off-base. And really, it's not what Reilly did. Reilly settled for his popularity, whereas I think this blog is making the changes to continue to move forward. I once did a sports blog, I ran it with a lot of inside jokes and things that 10-15 friends sitting with me in law school classes would laugh at. If it ever got popular off one thing, I would certainly have had to change things to keep it popular.I think it is a strong quality that this blog can recognize that it still has room to evolve. I think the Deadspin comment about changing up the blog because it becomes more popular is pretty off-base. And really, it’s not what Reilly did. Reilly settled for his popularity, whereas I think this blog is making the changes to continue to move forward. I once did a sports blog, I ran it with a lot of inside jokes and things that 10-15 friends sitting with me in law school classes would laugh at. If it ever got popular off one thing, I would certainly have had to change things to keep it popular.

I think it is a strong quality that this blog can recognize that it still has room to evolve.

]]> By: mizerle06http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197791 mizerle06 Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:12:34 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197791 <blockquote><strong>We</strong> catch a lot of heat from the KSK guys for “not reading the other blogs” and this was <strong>our</strong> exact point - if <strong>we</strong> look at all the blogs, <strong>we</strong>'ll definitely find interesting info, but then <strong>we</strong>'ll just turn them into massive posts, and we'll all have the same shit.<strong>We</strong> assume that anyone who reads deadspin is also likely to read the other blogs, so if they see it elsewhere, why do they need to see it on <strong>our</strong> site, too? Obviously there will be some similar posts as news happens. And sometimes, <strong>we</strong>'ll think <strong>we</strong> find out something and another blog has already gotten it.Posnanski summed this up best: He prefers to tune out all the noise, and operate that way.</blockquote>/blog'ed

We catch a lot of heat from the KSK guys for “not reading the other blogs” and this was our exact point – if we look at all the blogs, we‘ll definitely find interesting info, but then we‘ll just turn them into massive posts, and we’ll all have the same shit.

We assume that anyone who reads deadspin is also likely to read the other blogs, so if they see it elsewhere, why do they need to see it on our site, too? Obviously there will be some similar posts as news happens. And sometimes, we‘ll think we find out something and another blog has already gotten it.

Posnanski summed this up best: He prefers to tune out all the noise, and operate that way.

/blog’ed

]]> By: Sean Jeanhttp://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/06/23/media-news-notes-4/comment-page-3/#comment-197785 Sean Jean Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:07:31 +0000 http://thebiglead.com/?p=6381#comment-197785 lol @ Jesus fucking up that joke. Irony is the bestest.Keep up the good work TBL. lol @ Jesus fucking up that joke. Irony is the bestest.

Keep up the good work TBL.

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