<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Why Do the Sabermetric Teams Stink in 2008?</title> <atom:link href="http://thebiglead.com/?feed=rss2&#038;p=7341" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/</link> <description>Not just another sports blog.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:16:00 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: August West</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242364</link> <dc:creator>August West</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:44:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242364</guid> <description>LeBron&gt;OSU</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeBron&gt;OSU</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spencer096</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242283</link> <dc:creator>spencer096</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:36:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242283</guid> <description>WeGotWood...can&#039;t you read the title of this post?  this is an OSU/UM argument, OBVIOUSLY.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WeGotWood&#8230;can&#8217;t you read the title of this post?  this is an OSU/UM argument, OBVIOUSLY.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spencer096</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242280</link> <dc:creator>spencer096</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:35:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242280</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is college football time and it is my favorite time of year. You may see less of me, which will make most of you happy as hell.&lt;/blockquote&gt;agreed on the fav time of year, but if you go mags, who will i argue with?  mizerle and his god damned ESSS-EEEEEEE-SEEEEE SPEED bullshit?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is college football time and it is my favorite time of year. You may see less of me, which will make most of you happy as hell.</p></blockquote><p>agreed on the fav time of year, but if you go mags, who will i argue with?  mizerle and his god damned ESSS-EEEEEEE-SEEEEE SPEED bullshit?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jb49ers</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242279</link> <dc:creator>jb49ers</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:34:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242279</guid> <description>Miles is happy to be where he is Maggs. Geaux Tigers!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles is happy to be where he is Maggs.<br /> Geaux Tigers!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WeGotWood</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242274</link> <dc:creator>WeGotWood</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:32:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242274</guid> <description>@TBLI think CubsDynasty (#65) got it right, really.  In Moneyball, Beane capitalized on inefficiencies in the market and he paid for undervalued stats.  At the time, it was OBP.  While all the other front offices were still stuck on AVG and less important stats of the sort, Beane was building great teams for cheap with people who could get on base like crazy.  Since then, other teams have caught on and OBP isn&#039;t undervalued anymore.  This means that Beane can&#039;t always sign the best players and other small market teams (e.g: KC, Was., Cle., SD... in other words, most of the teams listed in the post) also aren&#039;t getting the best OBP hitters like they might have before OBP became as prevalent as it is today.  Basically, even if you wouldn&#039;t classify the Cubs, for example, as a sabremetric franchise, they&#039;re winning for arguably the same reason Beane&#039;s A&#039;s teams were earlier this decade, leading the league in OBP.  In fact, in order, the four worst teams in terms of OBP are: Oakland, Washington, San Diego, Kansas City.Basically, it&#039;s hard for these &quot;sabremetric&quot; franchises to do a good job running their team when the big spenders are using the right stats as well, even if they aren&#039;t labeled as such... at least that&#039;s how I see it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TBL</p><p>I think CubsDynasty (#65) got it right, really.  In Moneyball, Beane capitalized on inefficiencies in the market and he paid for undervalued stats.  At the time, it was OBP.  While all the other front offices were still stuck on AVG and less important stats of the sort, Beane was building great teams for cheap with people who could get on base like crazy.  Since then, other teams have caught on and OBP isn&#8217;t undervalued anymore.  This means that Beane can&#8217;t always sign the best players and other small market teams (e.g: KC, Was., Cle., SD&#8230; in other words, most of the teams listed in the post) also aren&#8217;t getting the best OBP hitters like they might have before OBP became as prevalent as it is today.  Basically, even if you wouldn&#8217;t classify the Cubs, for example, as a sabremetric franchise, they&#8217;re winning for arguably the same reason Beane&#8217;s A&#8217;s teams were earlier this decade, leading the league in OBP.  In fact, in order, the four worst teams in terms of OBP are: Oakland, Washington, San Diego, Kansas City.</p><p>Basically, it&#8217;s hard for these &#8220;sabremetric&#8221; franchises to do a good job running their team when the big spenders are using the right stats as well, even if they aren&#8217;t labeled as such&#8230; at least that&#8217;s how I see it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Magglio Merkin</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242273</link> <dc:creator>Magglio Merkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242273</guid> <description>I gotta go, but you can hate Michigan all you want. I actually love being a part of something special. I love the RR hire, I think his offense keys in on the Big Tens weaknesses (large no necked linebackers of the 4.8 40 variety)I just think he is used to getting garbage recruits and is still doing what he used to. I would have loved Les Miles (as most would have including Miles...) but it didn&#039;t happen and you can&#039;t go back in time. Michigan hires coaches for life and the only way we don&#039;t give RR his due time is if he Charlie Weiss&#039; himself which I dont see happening. I think Michigan will suprise some people this year and I don&#039;t think they will be in the NC picture, but they will be in due time 2-3 years. It will be fun, but I am really over my school being hate don by this board. It is college football time and it is my favorite time of year. You may see less of me, which will make most of you happy as hell.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta go, but you can hate Michigan all you want. I actually love being a part of something special. I love the RR hire, I think his offense keys in on the Big Tens weaknesses (large no necked linebackers of the 4.8 40 variety)I just think he is used to getting garbage recruits and is still doing what he used to. I would have loved Les Miles (as most would have including Miles&#8230;) but it didn&#8217;t happen and you can&#8217;t go back in time. Michigan hires coaches for life and the only way we don&#8217;t give RR his due time is if he Charlie Weiss&#8217; himself which I dont see happening. I think Michigan will suprise some people this year and I don&#8217;t think they will be in the NC picture, but they will be in due time 2-3 years. It will be fun, but I am really over my school being hate don by this board. It is college football time and it is my favorite time of year. You may see less of me, which will make most of you happy as hell.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spencer096</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242272</link> <dc:creator>spencer096</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:31:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242272</guid> <description>and regarding the old date argument...even tho the only reason Michigan has a winning record over the Buckeyes is because a large chunk of those wins happened before OSU came to prominence, they still technically count.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and regarding the old date argument&#8230;even tho the only reason Michigan has a winning record over the Buckeyes is because a large chunk of those wins happened before OSU came to prominence, they still technically count.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cbh49er</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242271</link> <dc:creator>cbh49er</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:28:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242271</guid> <description>Notre Dame&#039;s 13 national championships laughs at all of you./Don&#039;t care to hear that they haven&#039;t won one in 20 years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notre Dame&#8217;s 13 national championships laughs at all of you.</p><p>/Don&#8217;t care to hear that they haven&#8217;t won one in 20 years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: St. Bear</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242269</link> <dc:creator>St. Bear</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:27:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242269</guid> <description>As an outsider (ie I have no affliation with any big time college program), let me say this in response to Mag&#039;s rant and the direction this conversation is going.Every single football factory school is the same.  USC, OSU, UM, FSU, Alabama, Florida, Miami, Oklahoma, etc.  They all buy their players and bend the rules as much as they can to win.  No one program is holier than another.  The only possible exceptions are Duke, Stanford, and sometimes Boston College, but I think they&#039;re becoming like everyone else.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an outsider (ie I have no affliation with any big time college program), let me say this in response to Mag&#8217;s rant and the direction this conversation is going.</p><p>Every single football factory school is the same.  USC, OSU, UM, FSU, Alabama, Florida, Miami, Oklahoma, etc.  They all buy their players and bend the rules as much as they can to win.  No one program is holier than another.  The only possible exceptions are Duke, Stanford, and sometimes Boston College, but I think they&#8217;re becoming like everyone else.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: spencer096</title><link>http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2008/08/27/why-do-the-sabermetric-teams-stink-in-2008/comment-page-3/#comment-242267</link> <dc:creator>spencer096</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://thebiglead.com/?p=7341#comment-242267</guid> <description>fetch...again, not to be a dick, but unless this is the university of alabama, NC&#039;s that occur before our parents were born do still count.  and miami didn&#039;t even have a football team back then, so it could easily be michigan 6 before 1950, miami 0 since 1950.alabama just makes up their own NC&#039;s and says it&#039;s fact.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fetch&#8230;again, not to be a dick, but unless this is the university of alabama, NC&#8217;s that occur before our parents were born do still count.  and miami didn&#8217;t even have a football team back then, so it could easily be michigan 6 before 1950, miami 0 since 1950.</p><p>alabama just makes up their own NC&#8217;s and says it&#8217;s fact.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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