Comments on: Rob Dibble Lobs a Couple Grenades at ESPN (Keith Law Might Want to Run for Cover)

By: The Sports Hernia

The Sports Hernia — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:29:59 +0000

Rob Dibble thinks O’Doyle rules.

By: NickP

NickP — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:21:15 +0000

and has won 4 titles and made the playoffs every yr.

and he did it all by himself.

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:05:05 +0000

Jeter is so overrated and overhyped that he has a chance to break Rose’s hit record and has won 4 titles and made the playoffs every yr.

Yea, hes so overrated.

By: beaverbeliever

beaverbeliever — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:41:27 +0000

Quick, who led the American League in hitting in 1953?

/hoping somebody else has seen Spies Like Us

By: beaverbeliever

beaverbeliever — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:35:32 +0000

Rob Dibble makes my head hurt with his dumb-ness. You know who else has accumulated a lot of hits over the past decade? Juan Freaking Pierre. He has also been a bad outfielder and almost always is very poor at getting on base. Oh, and don’t forget that while he is constantly amongst the league leaders in hits he is also always right there in outs created. Dibble, you are truly a jackass.

By: Jeeves

Jeeves — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:33:49 +0000

Bizzy, Jeter has more hits then Babe Ruth and Joe Dimaggio and Mickey Mantle, only Lou Gherig stands in his way as The Yankee with the most hits of all time….As far as Jeters greatness, how about most hits,runs,and total bases in postseason history…OP? OPS was made up by espn, it means nothing to me.
Two hundred hits in a season could mean 200 singles. Yeah…hits is an important category, Dibble.

Agreed Chips, plus the fact that Joltin’ Joe played in a time with fewer games and when offensive numbers were suppressed more than they currently are. They have the same 162 game average for hits even though Joe was hitting in tougher times.

Comparing him to Babe Ruth is ust dumb because Ruth has 1041 more walks as a Yankee than Jeter (and Mantle has 900+ more for what it’s worth)

By: Jesus

Jesus — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:30:11 +0000

Oh, and the chat was not at Baseball Think Factory, but done at Foxsports. The post is merely linking to the BTF (you may remember it as Baseball Primer back in the day, excepting Intern Bill, I’d wager).

By: Jesus

Jesus — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:28:16 +0000

Jeter is a bad defensive shortstop – the Gold Gloves he won recently are not supported by any statistical evidence or from watching Jeter play. What Jeter – who is unarguably a great offensive shortstop – gains from are a handful of memorable plays (diving into the stands, relaying the throw to tag out Giambi) and the fact he plays in NYC. If Jeter had come up and spent his career in Seattle and produce at a similar rate, I doubt many people would be as fawning of him as it seems they are. In fact, there is a whole cottage industry built up around defending/attacking Jeter. The fact that Jeter’s team won a lot of games is not due to Jeter alone, but he will garner the most attention and beatification from the recent Yankee run (Mariano Rivera was more important to that dynasty, by the way).

All I know – Jeter has a most impressive resume of girlfriends and lady acquaintances.

By: Jeeves

Jeeves — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:25:33 +0000

please tell me how jeter is ‘overrated.’

I guess the best way I can think of putting it (and I realize that this isn’t the most apt comparison for some since not everyone follow soccer) but Jeter is overrated/hyped much the way that David Beckham is. Most soccer fans realize that Beckham is a good-great players but far from one of the all time bests. They acknowledge his superior skills (his services) as well as his faults (lack of pace, blowing a fair number of PKs). Jeter is much the same. He’s been a very good-great player throughtout his career. He’s a good hitter as evidenced by his career line of .316/.386/.458 from the SS position, but like Becks, he has his faults, namely his utter lack of range.

The fact that they both played on the biggest teams in their respective leagues (yes ManU wasn’t always the biggest, but it certainly became such during Becks’ years there), as well as having sex appeal that allowed them to ascend to even higher levels of fame combined with the fact that they dated hot, famous celebs led them to being overhyped beyond their abilities. In the eyes of less informed fans, they were viewed as among the best in the game and among the best all time, yet those who followed the sport more closely knew that they were merely just very good. Throw in the fact that there hasn’t been the slightest mention of Jeter with steroids, the fact that he has a flair for the dramatic, and the fact that “plays the game the right way” and you see why the media love slurping him which has increased the backlash against him. I think it’s gotten to the point, for both Beck’s and Jeter, that the backlash against them has led them to being slightly underrated by some (but obvs still being vastly overrated by many).

By: Bottomless Chips

Bottomless Chips — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:53:48 +0000

Bizzy, Jeter has more hits then Babe Ruth and Joe Dimaggio and Mickey Mantle, only Lou Gherig stands in his way as The Yankee with the most hits of all time….As far as Jeters greatness, how about most hits,runs,and total bases in postseason history…OP? OPS was made up by espn, it means nothing to me.

Two hundred hits in a season could mean 200 singles. Yeah…hits is an important category, Dibble.

Jeter has also had the benefit of an EXTRA ROUND in the playoffs. MORON.

And Gavin Floyd sucks, TBL. Would you say he’s a top 50 pitcher in the AL? Probably not. Thus, I don’t think Law is wrong in calling him average.