From One Scholarship Offer to No. 1 in the Draft? Lions Pondering Wake Forest LB Aaron Curry
NFL February 24th. 2009, 9:45am
There’s a growing consensus that perhaps Wake Forest LB Aaron Curry might be the safest pick in the draft, and that he could go No. 1 to the Lions. That’s quite an ascent for Curry, who coming out of high school had just one scholarship offer according to Rivals, even though a few ACC schools were recruiting him.
We took a peek at the history of LB’s going first overall and it hasn’t happened since Aundray Bruce went No. 1 in 1988 to the Falcons. The former Auburn LB was thought to be the next LT … but was mostly a bust, starting just 42 games in his 11 year career. He totaled just 32 sacks.
The Lions’ defense last year was the worst against the run, gave up over 400 yards per game, and allowed 32 points per game. The last defense to give up 30 or more points per game was the 2001 Colts.
Peter King got the impression the Lions like Matthew Stafford, but it wasn’t a lock that he was their guy yet. So now the question becomes whether or not Stafford has a Leinart or Brady Quinn-like freefall if the Lions select Curry. Stafford could go 3rd to the Chiefs … but in Scott Pioli’s draft career in New England, he never drafted a QB in the first or second round (although one could argue there was no need for one since Brady was running the show).
There’s Seattle at 4 (if you don’t think Hasselbeck’s got anything left), San Fran at 10 (Shaun Hill or Alex Smith inspire no confidence), Buffalo at 11 (unless you are enamored with Trent Edwards), and … the Jets at 17.
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February 24th, 2009 at 9:51 am
SI needs to get their ducks in a row. King says he thinks the Lions like Stafford and Don Banks basically guaranteed they won’t take a QB. I think they go offensive line. Schwartz isn’t a starfucker, Jerry Jones-type guy. Doubt the Chiefs take Stafford at three. Hadn’t even thought about him sliding all the way to the Jets, but I will be hoping for that from this moment on.
February 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am
I think Stafford should just cancel his pro-day. He’ll stay projected at #1.
February 24th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Obviously the Jets stuff crazy talk since that’s the team i follow … but if the Lions don’t take him, he could definitely fall out of the top 10.
February 24th, 2009 at 9:56 am
why are we talking about stafford? isn’t the post about aaron curry?
didn’t see anything of curry during the season (didn’t even know his name) but his youtube highlights are impressive. im not going to pretend to know about him or anything, but from the highlights he seemed like a better fit in a 4-3 but everyone is saying he could fit in a 3-4. i have no idea.
February 24th, 2009 at 9:58 am
They should just trade the #1 pick. It’s always a waste of money. You can draft pretty much the same player later in the first round and save millions.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:00 am
They play football at Wake?
LB just isn’t a valuable enough position to be spending a high pick and guaranteeing tons of money. Maybe if he was a 3-4 edge rusher, but a 4-3 outside backer, hell no.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Curry’s a beast, not sure about #1 overall though.
And I’d be suprised if Seattle took anything besides a WR with their pick. If Hasselback can’t work with the garbage at WR, what is Stafford or anyone else going to do with it?
February 24th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Don’t know much about Curry, but I like the idea of the Lions going defense first. If they draft a QB, it will be another major mistake by a franchise that took screwing up to epic levels.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
They would if they could. Lucky for them Jerry Jones is an idiot and gave them a extra first and third round picks for almost nothing.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Not after what happened to Andre Smith. Many have him falling out of the top 10 now. And I don’t know if another OL is really worth #1 overall.
You go on to explain why there is no way they’ll be able to trade the pick. Nobody wants it. Especially this year.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Thats exactly why they won’t be able to trade it, no one would want it.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Also, Curry looks like a darker version of Leon
February 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am
If Schwartz is going to stick with the 4-3 Cover 2 scheme he used in Tennessee B.J. Raji might not be a bad way to go. A great DT can transform a Cover 2 team. Personally, I’d go Jason Smith.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
There’s always some team out there that’d take the #1. You may not get a lot for it but some sap of a GM will be enamored enough to trade up.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Curry is the safe choice. Andre Smith probably freaked too many GMs. Michael Crabtree has that injured foot. Stafford isn’t worth Top pick money and I think he falls to the Niners at #10 — besides the Lions can pick Mark Sanchez at #20.
So that leaves guys like Jason Smith, Jeremy Maclin, Eugene Monroe, Brian Orakpo or BJ Raji as your likely options and I haven’t seen any of them rated near #1 Overall (although Jason Smith could go Top 5).
Meaning….Curry is the safest choice.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Andre Smith wasn’t the highest-rated OT to begin with, as there are questions about whether or not he has the footwork to keep up with edge rushers. Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe have both been rated higher than him for some time now.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:10 am
False.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I agree, but I don’t there is a player worth trading up for this year.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Can anyone confirm this? I had on NFL Network and the bottom ticker had LB 40 times, I think the top 3 times were all Wake LBs.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Hasn’t happened since 2001 when SD gave up Michael Vick to Atlanta. It’s just not going to happen. And I’m guessing Detroit has probably tried.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am
@bigtuna
It seems like they have Curry and Arnoux, http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers
February 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am
triston, i was thinking that he kind of looked like a football version of greg oden.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am
I know Curry had the top time and Arnoux was right there with him, but I don’t know who the other Wake LB is let alone what his 40 time was.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I don’t think Pioli will even shake Stafford’s hand let alone seriously consider drafting him with the third pick. He’s hoping Curry falls there so he can snatch him up. And Detroit is definitely going to take Stafford or one of the tackles. Watch.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:15 am
It won’t happen because Detroit hasn’t tried hard enough. The #1 pick isn’t as valuable anymore due to bullshit inflated contracts. But I’d gladly swap an overall #1 with a late mid-late first and a 3rd. And someone out there would give it to me.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I’ve seen many that still have Smith ahead of the other two even after the combine performances.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Curry = Gholston ?? Hope not for whomever drafts him
Funniest thing I heard (to me, at least) was Todd McShay talking to Cowherd on the radio yesterday saying he wasn’t allowed into the Combine, so he watched it on TV and is waiting for the tapes. Then, he does like 10 standups from the lobby for all the ESPN shows all day talking about how well this guy did, or this guy didn’t do, and he was watching NFL Network like we were!
If I were Detroit, I would PRAY the Raiders decide they want the first pick. I wouldn’t want to pick ANY of these guys and have to give them $50 million
February 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am
interesting question. i’d lean toward disagreeing, but then you look at how many #1’s have disappointed …
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1
February 24th, 2009 at 10:25 am
If Stafford falls out of the top ten, are we going to start seeing baby pictures of him in a Jets uniform?
February 24th, 2009 at 10:27 am
I don’t think the problem is that Detroit hasn’t tried hard enough to trade the pick, it’s that there aren’t enough elite prospects this year for someone to want to commit $50+ million to any of them AND give up draft picks later on. If the salary cap and cash on hand weren’t an issue, sure, some team would take a shot on one of these tackles being their blindside protector for the next 12 years and toss Detroit a deal.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
The Lions need Scott Pioli’s help to trade the #1 pick. If he starts bluffing, selling him as the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning, and telling every news outlet that’ll listen that there’s no way he’s not getting past him, maybe some stupid team will try to get ahead of him.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Every story I have seen about the Lions taking Stafford has originated with the national media and draft gurus.
None of the local guys think that’s likely. Fans are almost unanimous against it. You can find a quarterback. You have to draft a left tackle.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:30 am
isn’t raji a better fit as an NT in a 3-4? big fat fucks never do well in a cover 2 where they’re supposed to be attacking and have to actually be in shape and motivated.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am
I don’t think the problem is that Detroit hasn’t tried hard enough to trade the pick, it’s that there aren’t enough elite prospects this year for someone to want to commit $50+ million to any of them AND give up draft picks later on.
Most years it’s a tough pill to swallow. This year, with this economy, teams are not going to be looking to take on extra costs — particularly when there isn’t some mega-stud they can trot out before their fans and say “OK, who’s not gonna renew their season tix now?!”
February 24th, 2009 at 10:34 am
He can play both spots. He actually collapses the pocket really well, even though his moobs are extremely prominent.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I agree there;s not a superstud to draft. But does that mean the Lions have to automatically flush money down the drain cause they sucked last year? Maybe they should let the draft clock expire, then they can work their way down the draft and save money. Why pay #1 overall money to someone who isn’t a true #1?
February 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Just a little perspective on that one: ATL fans were pretty unanimous about not taking Matt Ryan last year at 3 and look what happened. Take your statement above and insert D-Tackle (Dorsey) and that is what you had last year in the ATL. There were Ryan supporters but there were more detractors.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I never thought about it in terms of the economy.
Question: After what Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan did last year, would it be a better idea to take a flier on Stafford, Sanchez, Nate Davis, Josh Freeman, whomever, than to take a chance on a Sage Rosenfels or Jeff Garcia
February 24th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Hopefully, NFL GM’s are smart enough to realize that Ryan’s the exception, not the norm. Tim Couch, David Carr, Alex Smith, JaMarcus Tit Suckel, etc…
February 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
After the success of Matt Ryan and the Falcons, I would expect Matt Stafford to go #1.
NFL=copycats
February 24th, 2009 at 10:43 am
joe flacco? you mean a 50% completion rate, riding a strong defense and run game and getting one lucky downfield completion per game? you mean staring down WR’s like they were a nude [insert smokin' hot chick]? the complete inability to handle any defense worth a shit?
dude, joe flacco SUCKED last year. any QB with that D and running game would’ve done just as well. he showed nothing that indicates he’ll be a decent QB moving forward.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Curry is a very good player, but I doubt if anyone is going to give him 1st pick money.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:46 am
if you go 0-16, are you obligated to make a pick that’s going to post actual stats?
curry may be solid … there’s a CHANCE stafford could be very, very good.
i do worry about giving $30 mil guaranteed to anyone, though.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Agreed.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
No, you’re obligated to not go 0-16 again.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
sucked seems a bit strong. flacco had the same completion % as eli and mcnabb. slightly higher than roethlisberger and delhomme.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:49 am
dude, joe flacco SUCKED last year.
Flacco didn’t suck. He didn’t do anything stupid. He didn’t fumble like 3 times in the last 5 minutes and piss away a 3 touchdown or whatever lead like Sage Rosenfels did. And apparently the Vikings would rather trust a guy like that instead of just drafting a first round quarterback who won’t get in Adrian Peterson’s way.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:49 am
um…
when you go 0-16, you’re supposed to get the guy that most fills one of many glaring needs. this isn’t fantasy football…linemen make a much bigger impact on the game than any ’stat producer’ other than maybe QB, on offense.
and defensive stats are absolutely meaningless.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Went to Wake and watched every game they played this year. Curry is not just a work-out warrior, he produces. No one questions his motor, either (so he is not Gholston). Not only does he have the size and speed, he is a great tackler and has great instincts. He is also a very good coverage backer. Great kid off the field too – whoever takes him doesn’t have to worry about him getting in any trouble.
Look for Alphonso Smith (also from Wake) to go in the first round too. He’s little short for a corner (5′9″) but has very good speed and great hands.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:50 am
You are obligated to refund all season ticket money.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Spence
- I was waiting to see how long you could hold out before invoking the “dogshit Flacco” meme. I agree. I also think Flacco > Big Ben.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
mcnabb threw elevnty billion times last year…the more attempts, the lower completion %. eli threw downfield A LOT more…again, lower completion % on those passes. delhomme is an abortion at QB, so that fits.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
gholston’s motor wasn’t the issue, it was his football IQ, or lack there of.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
On a complete side note: I am listening to Hair Nation on XM right now and there is a band called Doro & Warlock. Why in the hell can’t we have band names like that any more?
February 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
I don’t care what anyone says, Flacco and Big Ben are the two best QB’s in the league. They just win, baby, and they don’t even need defense or special teams!
February 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I don’t care what anyone says, Flacco and Big Ben are the two best QB’s in the league. They just win, baby, and they don’t even need defense or special teams!
Flacco may not have been the second coming of Dan Marino, but the point was that he got the team a lot farther than a washed-up Steve McNair did. And he was a hell of a lot more reliable.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
a lot farther? mcnair got them to the 2nd round, flacco to the third.
and just ignore the fact that in mcnair’s last good year, and flacco’s year, the defenses were identical, but mcnair had a much worse running game.
the bottom line is, with the ravens from 2009 backwards, it’s not about the offense, it’s about the D. ray lewis and ed reed are the de facto QBs for the ravens, not the guy on offense.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Would hardly call Ryan the exception- Elway, Young, Aikman, P Manning, Bradshaw, Plunkett, Namath…..
February 24th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Way to name one top pick from the last 19 years. You sold me.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Aikman and Manning both went 1-15 their first season. Young sat for years behind Montana. Elway went 0-3 in his first 3 SB tries. Plunkett took a long time to win it all.
Ryan has looked like a decent QB (far more solid than the high-risk/reward Michael Vick) but let’s not make him the next great QB until he’s had a few seasons under his belt.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:40 am
You labeled Russell as a bust. You are a tough fan, give the guy two years then his career is over.
E Manning, Palmer, Vick, Bledsoe.
Hmmm guess what theyre all Pro Bowlers, that work for ya?
Alex Smith is your entire argument. Couch and Carr both went to expansion teams. If you thought their careers would work out you are beyond help.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Please tell me you’re joking.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Vick? You like QB’s for prison teams?
February 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am
i still love vick on the football field. don’t care what anyone says, jim mora had no idea what he was doing.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:58 am
His amazing game against the guards was on ESPN Classic the other day.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Truer words have never been spoken. Vick was progressing very well under Reeves until he got hurt. Thus the Falcons go 4-12-ish and fans blame the coach and overlook the fact that Vick missed 12 games.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Spencer, I just saw Jenkens run a 4.55 (unofficial). That may push him to safety will it not?
February 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Didn’t know they made “The Longest Yard 3″ already. Vick was exciting to watch certainly, but I was never convinced he could consistently lead a perennial contender
February 24th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
maybe…but he was so damn good last year at corner, id still give him a shot there. but there’s nothing wrong with a move to FS because he brings the wood.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
maybe if mora didn’t try to put a square peg into a round hole, we would’ve found out. instead, they tried to change everything vick did from footwork to reading tree to where he passes from in the pocket and it was doomed from the start.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Donald Washington just had the 2nd higest vertical jump since 2000. Had the best broad jump at the combine also. His injury against Texas was bigger than Beanie getting hurt in my opinion. Shut Texas down the 1st half, he got hurt and Chekwa had to play the entire 2nd half and got lit up.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
The Lions were worse than any expansion team. Why the hell would you then draft a quarterback.
Also, let’s look at guys who were say top five instead of just #1
Russell, V. Young, Harrington, Akili Smith. Carr, Couch, Ryan Leaf over the last ten years
February 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Trust me, no team is worse than the 99 Browns. Maybe the 08 Browns.