Ballin’: Chicago Blows a Game it Definitely Should Have Won; Dwight Howard Suspension Forthcoming After Cheap-Shot Elbow?
NBA April 29th. 2009, 9:45amBoston 106, Chicago 104 OT: We’ll keep our thoughts brief because we’re still angry about this loss, mostly because Chicago led by 11 in the fourth, but also because Vinny Del Negro coached a terrible final quarter and overtime. 1) When the Celtics cut into the 11-point lead, he should have called a timeout to settle his young team. It appeared as if an assistant was urging him to do so. You’re not Phil Jackson, rookie. 2) Horrible final play of regulation. Ten seconds of Ben Gordon dribbling around for a 20-footer? Should have been Rose attacking to shoot, kick out for an open jumper, or go to the line. 3) Should have subbed in for Salmons on any of the final three possessions when Pierce easily shot over him. Why not Ty Thomas? Chicago had this one. No Ray Allen in overtime, and Boston won it with Tony Allen and Marbury on the floor? When’s that going to happen again? As for Rondo’s slap to Brad Miller in the final seconds … can’t call a flagrant there in that spot. It sure was close, though.
Orlando 91, Philadelphia 78: Dwight Howard scored 24 points and took 24 rebounds and the Magic lead the series 3-2. The loss prompted Philly coach Tony DiLeo to bitch about Superman camped out in the lane. “He lives in the three-second lane on offense and defense … I’m just saying that he’s standing in the three-second lane on offense and defense.” Before you advance the Magic to the semifinals, let’s see what the status is of rookie guard Courtney Lee, who took a Howard elbow in the head in the first quarter and didn’t return. Elbow also his Sam Dalembert with a blatant elbow early in the game, probably to send a message. There’s zero chance he gets suspended for game six, but if it were a lesser star or a bench player, Stern might have them sit. Magic lead 3-2.
Dallas 106, San Antonio 93: The Spurs went quietly, with a whimper. The Mavs jumped out early; the Spurs rallied. The Mavs came out blazing in the second half; the Spurs had no answer. And that was it, underdog Dallas advanced to the second round for the first time since 2006. Spurs not named Parker or Duncan shot a combined 14-for-33; Roger Mason, the guy everyone pegged as the next Robert Horry, played just 12 minutes. His minutes dwindled with each game, and he scored just eight points in the final three games of the series. Dallas-Denver should be a track meet with each game in the 115-110 range.
Portland 88, Houston 77: Altogether now – Portland in seven! Portland in seven! If a reliable third scorer could arrive to help Roy (25 points) and Aldridge (25, too), we’d feel more confident. At least game six will have a national audience. Perhaps Aaron Brooks will take another 20 shots (made six), the Rockets will commit a ton of fouls and turn the ball over at an alarming rate.
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April 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I too am pissed at Vinny, just horrendous coaching. How do you single PP, every time they needed a basket it was the same play, isolate PP at the key. Don’t even cover Marbury, DOUBLE PP, make him give up the ball, I’ll take my chances with Allen/Perkins/Davis/Allen making a big shot. F’in terrible.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
had not seen the elbow by howard until now. damn.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:54 am
T-Mac will never make it out of the first round.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:55 am
howard has to be suspended for that elbow, if hes not they really can’t suspend anyone for less than a straight up punch in the face.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:55 am
The end of that fucking Bulls/Celtics game pissed me off so much I couldn’t sleep. Really, Pierce, again? No change in defense? It’s his favorite shot on the fucking court, everyone has seen him hit 1,000 times, and you feel that Salmons, 1-on-1 is the answer? Thomas, Noah, and even fucking Hinrich would’ve been better choices. As for the last play, that should’ve been a Rose drive and kick out to Gordon, or someone else. If my TV wasn’t still relatively new, I would’ve thrown the goddamn remote through it.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
What more does Rondo need to do for that to be flagrant? Close his fist? He’s nowhere near the ball. Rules are rules – game situations shouldn’t matter.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
the rockets havent won a series since 1997…its time
/will say this until they win or choke
/fuck tmac. it wont count if they win
April 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
This drives me crazy.
Wow Howard should be suspended.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
that elbow’s indefensible
wonder if there will be any pressure on stern to suspend him.
lotta folks here seem to think so
April 29th, 2009 at 9:57 am
That was a seriously good playoff foul by Rondo. Miller had a layup and he took his tooth out, and made him shoot free throws while dizzy. It is laughable that Chicago wouldn’t at least TRY somebody else on Pierce, even if it was Ty Thomas, because Salmons is the anti-man.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I was throwing shit around my living room the whole game, and I’m a C’s fan. This series is too much. I want to kill Tony Allen for that un-fathomable foul on Gordon’s desperation three-point heave at end of OT.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:59 am
that was as intentional as one can get. it is one thing when guys grab a rebound and stick out their elbows out whipping around to clear out the lane, but that was a cheap shot.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:59 am
if the guys from phoenix can get suspended for leaving the fucking bench against the spurs, howard can get suspended for this.
dumb fuckin rules
April 29th, 2009 at 10:00 am
This is probably Phil’s biggest weakness as a coach. Actually, every coach is pretty damn awful at not calling timeouts at appropriate times.
Only Popovich is good at this.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Stern was at the game. i can tell who has been watching the series and who hasn’t
I hope C Lee is okay
April 29th, 2009 at 10:01 am
what does that have to do with that elbow by Howard. that was bad.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:02 am
del negro better catch heat today. he bungled that game
any guesses on game 6?
it’s clear these teams are virtual equals at this point in the series … the worry is if chicago’s so crestfallen by this loss that it puts up another game 3 stinker.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:02 am
WTF? Portland played too? That’s too many stupid games in one night.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Rondo’s Round 1 averages:
24.2ppg, 10.2rpg, 10.2apg, 3.2spg.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Bulls win by 8.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I haven’t.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Barkley and the Jet were clear after the game- Howard will be suspended. If they don’t, the precedent they would set would reverse a ton of work they’ve done to crack down on fights.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Celtics win game 6 comfortably.
/totally biased
April 29th, 2009 at 10:06 am
i don’t think you have to watch a whole series to know that you should be suspended for hitting someone with a swinging elbow to the face after a made basket.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
disagree. in all the hoops i’ve been watching, phil useless this relentlessly with the lakers. to no end. very, very effectively. helped, of course, that he had shaq and kobe.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Couldn’t Del Negro have put in somebody off the bench to shoot those free throws for Miller when he saw the guy couldn’t see straight? Isn’t that legal to sub for an injured play and shoot the free throws as long as the player stays in the game? Was this not a good option considering he was clearly daized?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
good to hear. didn’t see their comments.
will rondo be fined for the slap/hit? dont know if that’s in the rules sine they never called it flagrant.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Ben/Clown, agreed. Hinrich has shut down PP this entire series, no one else should ever be guarding him. How is an intentional head shot not a flagrant 1.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:09 am
chris because it was not called a flagrant the other team would have been able to select a player of the bulls bench to take them
April 29th, 2009 at 10:09 am
NSR- An equally key stat is Rondo is avreaging 2.2 TO’s in 44 minutes a game.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:09 am
They went over this rule last night, but the NBA rule is this.
Either you shoot your own free throws, or you’re out of the game completely (like a pitcher).
Your sub is determined by the opposing coach.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Couldn’t Del Negro have put in somebody off the bench to shoot those free throws for Miller when he saw the guy couldn’t see straight?
I believe Miller would have to sit out the remainder of the game and Doc Rivers gets to choose who shoots the FTs.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Homer or not, that is correct.
CChris, I thought the same thing, just another “Del Moron” call.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:12 am
D. Rose going to the cup more often is what needs to happen.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:13 am
What a bind the Bulls would have been in if they couldn’t have used Brad Miller in double-OT. He’s been so good and such a big reason for their wins.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Am I excited for another Denver curb stomp tonight? Yes.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:15 am
i didnt get this rule. does it only apply to the playoffs? overtime in the playoffs? that rule is shit.
so if someone gets clobbered at the end, it’s to your benefit – that player better shoot the FTs or he’s done; not to mention the opposing coach gets to pick your shittiest scrub to shoot ‘em
April 29th, 2009 at 10:16 am
TBL,
It’s better than say Ben Wallace (for example) faking an injury and Mike Brown being to put Wally in to hit 2 crucial free throws.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Noah shoots 66%, hinrich shoots 63% in the playsoffs and Brad Miller shoots 85%. You prefer Miller shoots those shots. Didn’t work out.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:18 am
I don’t understand you. Are you saying more timeouts is good or bad? Letting your team work itself out of jams is nice in theory and may be appropriate for a regular season game, but jc – in the playoffs you gotta win games.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Was Ty Thomas fouled out last night? He’s outperformed Miller in every facet of the game in 3 less minutes per game.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Keep in mind that VDN is the coach of the Bulls.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am
OOOOOH. Maybe he was just trying to let Miller work through his sucky patch.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:22 am
CRM that shit has been happening all series and we have been getting burned. Fucking Del Negro is a fucking fool. I hope he comes down with the HamAIDS.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:23 am
For all of his quality play in this series and in the year, you have to remember that Ty Thomas is stupid. That’s obvious to absolutely anybody watching, playing, even Vinny Del Negro. If you have Ty Thomas in the game in crunch time, you’re risking his reverting to form, which is doing something stupid. In a crunch spot, Miller got the ball and went right to the hoop. He did exactly what he was supposed to do, and Rajon Rondo hit him as hard as he could, which was exactly what he was supposed to do. Ty Thomas might have backed up for a three or walked or something. He’s not a crunch time guy.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:24 am
i like Denver -36 tonight
April 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I like how the name of that YouTube video is “Brad Miller loses it for Bulls.” Yeah, as if anyone else could’ve got clobbered in the face and shot a free throws with blurry vision. Also, it’s not like Brad Miller let Paul Pierce get loose on three buckets which tied the game or gave the C’s the lead. Some fans are fuckwads.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
im going to hate all the media saying how mcgrady finally gets out of the first round when the fucker had no part in it
/hopes they really do get out of the first round
April 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I don’t know. I think if Thomas gets that ball he flushes it. Miller looked like he was driving the lane in slow motion.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Denver had better seal the deal tonight with the home court.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:27 am
who was the guy that said Ben Gordon was a defensive liability the other day? well if Gordon is – granted, he was psedo-defending Tony Allen – what does that make Salmons, who got used like a tampon last night in overtime?
gordon > salmons
can’t wait till deng returns next year, no way salmons sniffs the floor down the stretch over Deng
April 29th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Dirt- you are wrong.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:29 am
yeah, clown, Miller was moving slooooow, and he was really ope, and he’s white, so it looked funny.
If he doesn’t get absolutely creamed, he’s got a real shot at three points out of that.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Deng has done nothing!!!
April 29th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I don’t think Portland will get the benefit of 8 fouls in 5 minutes to start the fourth quarter for the rockets in game 6. Only complaint about the NBA right now is the ridiculously inconsistent officiating. How can a team commit 1/3 of their fouls in a 5 minute stretch?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:31 am
In all seriousness, though, what channel did Portland play on? Did they start that game at 2am? Why in the world do you schedule 4 games for a Tuesday?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:32 am
I was thinking the same thing when it happened. he did the right thing going to the rim but he should have tried to dunk it instead of going up for a lay-up.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:33 am
because of my schedule i didnt bother to even watch it. im still waiting on a fuckin saturday AFTERNOON playoff game. and next series we’re facing the lakers. kill me now. ive seen 6 quarters of basketball because of this shit
April 29th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Win or lose game 6 the Celtics have zero chance of advancing to the finals this year. All of the drama of the eastern conf. playoffs went away with Garnett’s injury. I do think the Lakers’ second round series could be interesting as Portland plays them well as do the Rockets. I can’t believe the ass whooping Denver put on NO…talk about a hard fall. Last year NO was the talk of the NBA and now you hear the dreaded “re-building” phrase bandied about. Certainly looks like a Cavs-Lakers finals though…which would be badass.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Bold statement TBL, the third overall pick is better than a career backup who most people have never heard of.
I said Gordon’s defense is atrocious, because it is. Don’t ask me what Salmons was doing singled up on Pierce, Hinrich would have been my choice.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
anyone listening to dan patrick? Larry Bird was on, said he too thinks Howard will be suspended for game 6
April 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Gordon would have totally shut Pierce down.
/true story
April 29th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I’m guessing the league figured one or two of these series would have ended by now.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Dirty, The game was on NBAtv
April 29th, 2009 at 10:38 am
@TBL- what did your boy O-Done do last night? keep rooting for him buddy
April 29th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I put a little scratch on these games just to make them (more) interesting, but the officiating as a whole is infuriating. There is a whistle at least, what, once every three possessions? Once every minute of game action?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:39 am
it’s hard for me to believe you can type when you’re this drunk.
deng’s a potential very good wingman (like a pippen) in this league. very good first five years. he and rose should be the cornerstone of that franchise for the next 5 years
April 29th, 2009 at 10:42 am
YIKES!!! Potential! I hate that word especially when used with a guy who has been in the league for 5 years. Those numbers you threw up dont impress me.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:43 am
not the best comparison. pippen was a defensive game-changer with a more than capable offensive game…deng is missing that whole “elite defender” thing…by a fucking nautical mile.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Salmons did a good job on Pierce in game 4 down the stretch.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am
irish no comment on d-ho’s cheap shot elbow?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am
On Rondo: it’s flagrant. It should have been called. Hell, at that moment, it’s premeditated and he should have been sent to the showers.
On Dwight: his absence will hurt the Magic BUT I think they can still pull the win in Game 6 without him. They’ll have to rely more on Turkoglu and Lewis and the rest of their shooters.
On Houston: as they say in England, “squeaky bum time” for Game 6. They HAVE TO close out Portland tomorrow. If they go to a Game 7, all their fears will surface once again.
Oh and here’s hoping the Hornets find their balls on the flight between NOLA and Denver. They can lose and get closed out — in fact, I expect it — but go down fighting. Don’t chickens**t out!
April 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am
he’s busy calling for Wilbon’s firing.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Do i have to defend everything Sleazzy?
Deng like a Pippen? too funny
Do you even watch basketball TBL or just highlights?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
he’s busy calling for Wilbon’s firing
says this unmeployed bum who has his wife work 3 jobs
April 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
This is the rule in the NBA at all times.
How much have you watched Deng play? He is a classic example of a guy who is a much better fantasy player than actual NBA player. And, I know this…I don’t know any Bulls fans who like him.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Come on guys, Deng is an overpaid 15 and 6 guy with no defense, nearly impossible to find guys like that.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
touche.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:52 am
it took Pippen 4 years for pippen to get any defensive accolades. remember, 2-3 years in had his cock between his legs on the bench with a ‘headache.’
i maintain deng is a No. 2 guy with pippen-type potential as a wingman; i never said he’d be anything close to pippen defensively.
the bulls haven’t had a NO. 1 until this year and rose is only a rookie.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:52 am
@irish — i’m sure the magic will be fine this series…but why do you take everything so personal on here?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
If Chauncey Billups doesn’t get knocked around dome this game like the nuggets have done CP3 its over. Well its still over the rest of those guys are just playing scared.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
I dont like him. I like Salmons more than I like Deng.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:58 am
pippen-type potential kinda insinuatese that defense is part of the package. i agree he could be a solid no. 2 but if i was comparing him to a player, he reminds me more of a less athletic, SF version of antawn jamison…a guy who can be productive offensively and fills a niche, but has to score more than his opponent (because his opponent is going to get their’s unless CHI finds some crazy good help defender) to be worthwile.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:59 am
@youngstown- nice of you to comment. Is Maggs here or something? that is the only time i see you on here
April 29th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Deng is a guy who basically maxed out his potential early in his career, and made people think he was better than he is. It’s what you see is what you get, a 16-6 guy who will never sniff an All-Star game, and most likely won’t be in Chicago within 2 years. I mean, they did everything they could to trade him this year, for crying out loud. That should speak volumes right there.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Deng will never be healthy.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Deng should have stayed at Duke and worked on his game some more. Thing is he went to the one team with other similar players like Nocioni and Salmons. So he can’t get the playing time and his game hasn’t gotten better.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:08 am
“the bulls haven’t had a NO. 1 until this year and rose is only a rookie.”
Rose is going to be great, but they still don’t have a #1 this year. I would argue Gordon has been their #1 this series.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:13 am
You can’t honestly believe that.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:14 am
there’s just this thing called work that gets in the way of posting all the time on blogs..so are you going to answer the question?
April 29th, 2009 at 11:17 am
3 SECONDS
April 29th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Why not?
April 29th, 2009 at 11:22 am
@youngstown- Why are you talking to me again?
April 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Look how much Coach K (and Kobe) helped develop LeBron’s game.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
i guess my point is don’t take everything so seriously..no one on here is making fun of your wife or something. they are joking around about a basketball team. take it easy though, i’m out.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
you mean nate macmillan and kobe did.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Its not the 20 Points the magic will have trouble making up. Its the 20 rebs
April 29th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Rondo should definitely be suspended. He stopped looking for the ball and clearly intentionally slapped brad miller in the face. He should miss at least the next game and probably the rest of the series.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Isn’t a flagrant fould when you hit the guy in the head even if it looks as though you were going for the ball? If so Rondo should have received a flagrant foul for that takedown on Miller.
April 29th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
JB, if it looks like you are going for the ball they won’t call a flagrant. A flagrant is when you intentionally body slam or crack a guy across the head.