Briefly Revisiting the “Best Pitcher in Baseball” Topic
Baseball April 30th. 2009, 5:45pm
Zack Greinke won last night, but finally gave up a run. He’s the story du jour in baseball this week after the SI cover story vaulted the once-troubled pitcher back into the spotlight. He’s also definitely not the best pitcher in baseball. Unless, of course, you want to say that Jason Bartlett of Tampa Bay is the best SS in baseball, and Toronto’s Aaron Hill is the best second baseman in MLB. One month does not a season make – and in Greinke’s case, nor do the other two months at the end of last year.
While there’s certainly no authority on who the best pitcher is, Joel Sherman in the New York Post weighed in on the subject:
I thought the April Fool’s issue had come and gone already. I am still trying to figure out how Zack Greinke is an anagram for Sidd Finch, or exactly how a guy with zero All-Star appearances and a career high of 13 wins becomes the best at something based on a handful of glorious starts to open 2009.
All-Star appearances are hardly a barometer of greatness, and the stat-heads would argue that wins aren’t, either. Tough to argue against Johan Santana’s credentials, though:
The conversation about the best current pitcher in the majors starts and ends with Toronto’s Roy Halladay and Santana, because they have a little something called credentials. In Santana’s case, those credentials now include a streak of 19 starts, dating to last year, in which he has not surrendered more than three runs. His ERA in that period is 1.65. His record is 11-1, and if he played for a team that either hit for him or played defense well behind him, Santana could very easily be 19-0 in that period.
We’d put Lincecum right there with him, but that’s just us.
NO BULL(PEN): BEST PITCHER IN BASEBALL DESERVES BETTER (NY Post)
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April 30th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
what!?!?! a magazine tries to be controversial to make sells?!1!!one! that is kinda like a blog posting something about jessica simpson and tony romo walking somewhere for page hits.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Don’t make me say this again. Sure, if it’s a one-game series that is must win, you go with someone else because of their track record. But as of today 4/30/2009, Zack Greinke is pitching better than anyone else, therefore RIGHT NOW he is the best pitcher throwing the best stuff. I’m sure that will change as the season goes on but give the kid the fucking credit he deserves.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
RAWR!!!!!!
April 30th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
I quote from page 44 of said Sports Illustrated:
Clearly SI is only talking about April of 2009.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
For every guy who comes out of nowhere, has a great April, and becomes a legitimate star, there’s this guy
But young pitchers never recover from 17-loss seasons and become one of the best pitchers in baseball (if not the best) just 2 or 3 years later. Never.
/Tom Glavine’d
April 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Adding that phrase implies exactly what Triston said about being the best pitcher RIGHT NOW.
/don’t know why that didn’t post with my first comment.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
whew. next week: Jarrod Washburn.
April 30th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
TBL, Jason LaRue from STL is batting .625. Where’s his SI cover?
April 30th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
TBL, Jason LaRue from STL is batting .625. Where’s his SI cover?
He’ll be sharing it with Joel Pineiro next week.
/unless, of course, it’s replaced with a “Is (insert East Coast team here) the best team in (insert sport here) cover”
April 30th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I also get really angry when someone not on the Yankees gets an SI cover.
/spits
April 30th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
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April 30th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Loving the fact that because no one noticed what he was doing last year (because he was in KC) that people in NY and other “major” places are pissed off.
Greinke is the real deal. You can put him in the same stratosphere as Santana/Lincecum/Halladay right now and make the argument that he’s where they are.
Of course, that argument would be made by more people if Greinke played on either coast.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Of guys with an extended track record. It’s Santana and Halladay, with Santana having a clear advantage.
I like Lincecum. Want to see him have better command before I put him at Santana level.
April 30th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
One month does not a season make – and in Greinke’s case, nor do the other two months at the end of last year.
I would hope players aren’t compared during November and December.
I am still trying to figure out how Zack Greinke is an anagram for Sidd Finch, or exactly how a guy with zero All-Star appearances and a career high of 13 wins becomes the best at something based on a handful of glorious starts to open 2009.
Kinda hard to use All-Star appearances and previous season totals against someone who is pitching in their 3rd MLB season.
Let’s be honest, the kid could go 20-5 with a sub 2.50 ERA this year and he wouldn’t be considered a better pitcher than Johan or Halladay. But can he get some fucking props for having a ridiculously awesome April?
April 30th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
u have 3 good starts and u get called the best starter! way to SI. hes not even better this month than santana