Lost: Only Nine(ish) Months Until the Final Season
Television May 14th. 2009, 9:00am* Let’s start with the Jacob-Other Guy as God-Satan theory. We also read something on one of the boards that the “Other Guy” was older Jacob who was trying to go back in time “found your loophole” to kill younger Jacob. Who the hell is that guy?
* Seems like Smokey was … the ‘Other Guy.’ The most popular web guess: Jacob somehow banished him to the cabin … which is where he met Locke. But why did Jacob save Locke if he knew that his nemesis (’Other Guy’) was going to return to kill him? And for those who haven’t googled the book Jacob was reading before he saved Locke … “powerful depiction of a troubled mother-son relationship … her ability to expose human weakness and explore important moral questions through everyday situations.”
* Has Christian been inhabited by Smokey, aka, the ‘Other Guy?’
* So Widmore and the ‘Other Guy’ are in cahoots, right? To take back the island?
* Is Juliet dead? Does she return in the same capacity as Claire? One of the message boards observed that her flashback was the only one that didn’t include meeting Jacob. Other characters who have “sacrificed” their life: Charlie, Michael.
* Jack’s reset (thanks to Juliet) will take the crew … when, exactly? Would they be the people that are “coming,” according to a dying Jacob? Would they go the beach - Jin and Sun would reunite - and “fight” the people who were carrying Locke’s body?
* The pilot is a “candidate” for what, exactly?
* Did Sawyer make a Dukes of Hazzard reference? Thought we heard him call Miles “Enos,” who was a dim-witted cop on one of our favorite shows from the early 80s.
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May 14th, 2009 at 9:03 am
to be entity that Jacob’s soul can inhabit, like the other guy used Christian and Locke.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I mentioned this last night, but my theory is Jacob, and “Evil Locke” are spirits inhabiting host bodies. My guess then is Lupitis (the Pilot) could be a candidate house the Jacob spirit now that the body has been killed.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
nice.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
cgb: i think that’s spot on, however, I think we might see Jacob inhabit Jack. That would actually make the whole series of events a bit more full circle.
still so much to digest!
May 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
A pretty good finale to an otherwise terrible season.
Glad we finally met Jacob, pissed he died in such an anti-climactic way. The speech Ben gave right before knifing him was one of the best scenes of the entire season, IMO.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Sponge totally stole that shit from me! haha
May 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Weren’t a lot of the Dharma movies made AFTER Chang lost his hand (which appeared to happen last night)?
What is the meaning of Jacob making sure to physically touch everyone in the flashbacks?
Rose, Bernard and Vincent were simply able to escape detection by either Dharma or the others for 3 years? Doubtful.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
also, the juliet walking really fast from sawyer was a pleasant shot to see.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
I don’t think the “Other Guy” is Satan. This show isn’t that weird. It has religious themes, but not the direct.
I could buy the “Other Guy” as Smokie.
I will not buy the “Other Guy” as an older Jacob looking to get out of a timehole.
Whomever was in that cabin during Locke and Ben’s visit in S3 I don’t believe was Jacob. Ben said he made up that conversation with Jacob because he didn’t know who Jacob was. But Ben said all of that crazy shaking and stuff was not made up. Also, that old man in the chair that we got a quick glimpse of and the eyeballs… not sure if those were Jacob. I believe they were incarnations of other people by the “Other Guy.” What set me off that it was the “Other Guy” was that we heard the cryptic “Heeeeelp me” and so did Locke but not Ben. It would make sense only Locke heard it as he became a major part of the process that allowed “Other Guy” to take over Locke’s body and kill Jacob.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
guilty.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
you would imagine if he lost his hand it would be completely chopped off since it looked like he lost half his arm in the movies. Is this the first indication they changed what happened?
The other guy was totally the one in the cabin, Locke never saw Jacob.
Rose and Bernard are totally Adam and Eve from the first season.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:12 am
So the re-creation of the 815 circumstances including John’s body was orchestrated by the being inhabiting John Locke’s body.
So Eloise is working for the anti-Jacob. She insisted that the events resemble the previous flight and I have to assume the reason was to put John Locke on the plane for the purposes of being used by the pro Jacob.
If the Others are pro Jacob and the What Lies folks are pro Jacob is Widmore the only anti Jacobite?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:12 am
If we’re going with religious themes, the “other guy” could be Jacob’s fraternal twin brother Esau.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I think there was only one - The Swan Station Orientation. That one was made because of The Incident as Chang discusses the importance of pushing the button.
I agree. Emerson is spectacular.
I can believe it. That’s a pretty big island. Jin was the only DI person sent out by Sawyer. The Others had no reason to look for other people besides the Dharma folks. I think you can suspend a little bit of belief and go with the storyline.
It makes sense and I actually went to bed thinking that. I don’t believe we’ve seen that last of Jacob.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:13 am
I’m not so sure that Jacob is a “good guy”. He seemed to intervene in Sayid’s life in a way that insured that Sayid’s wife got pasted in the middle of the road. Maybe that’s what needed to happen in the big picture, but Jesus wasn’t really a ‘the end justifies the means’ kinda guy.
Also, is it possible that when Desmond turned the key in the hatch to stop another incident from happening, that he was detonating an atomic bomb? Perhaps the explosion doesn’t kill everyone because the electromagnetic energy of the island counteracts the explosion (like Faraday said).
May 14th, 2009 at 9:14 am
I don’t buy that, because Jacob helped set some of those events in motion. 1) He met Hurley in the cab 2) he distracted Sayid so that Nadia would get hit by the car.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am
This time I’m not being nit-picky, but that’s the worst summary of Everything That Rises Must Converge I’ve ever seen. Google should not be used for these purposes.
The “help me” heard in the cabin by Locke was probably the guy in black? The “other” Jacob. We were hoodwinked. Jacob’s mellow and friendly which seems contrary to what how his people have acted since Ben took over. Or is Richard the other Jacob but a younger version?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I should have said.
“being used by the Bad Guy” no pro Jacob -
May 14th, 2009 at 9:16 am
seems reason enough to want to kill him.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I’m happy to see that 99% of the theories that surrounded Jacob this season went up in smoke. Typical of this show to just add another character when needed. Entertaining as hell, though. This show is very, very lucky it has a specific end date.
O/U on Julliete’s bra size next season?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Yes because 2007 “Locke” along with Ben and Richard saw 2004 Time-Skipping Locke and Alpert gave him the compass and told him what to do. 2007 “Locke” had to make sure this would happen to continue the circle and ensure his existence would come to happen by 2004 Time-Skipping Locke coming back to The Island in a casket.
I don’t know if Eloise was a part of “Locke’s” evil plan. I think she might’ve thought what she was doing was OK. But in that episode in which Faraday died, Eloise seemed confused and said something along the lines of “For the first time, I don’t know what’s happening anymore.” It seems like what she thought was happening in present day wasn’t supposed to - ie “Other Guy” finding the loop to kill Jacob.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Or Esau
May 14th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I’m not so sure that Jacob is a “good guyâ€. He seemed to intervene in Sayid’s life in a way that insured that Sayid’s wife got pasted in the middle of the road.
I sort of missed out on this, but wasn’t Sayid’s wife somehow involved with Jacob? I had a damn kid screaming at me during the hospital bed scene, so I didn’t fully catch all of it.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:20 am
@cgb - yes he did. did he not know or understand that Locke would be the “loophole” used to kill him via proxy?
why go through the trouble of helping assemble and set into motion the events that will ultimately lead to your demise?
The Anti Jacob was imprisoned in the Cabin? Would Alpert know that?
Nice work by Jack to plant the “Don’t give up on John Locke..” seed. Alpert is going to facilitate the Anti-Jacob’s plan because of this.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
was it just me or was jacob setting up each of the castaways with the opportunity to change their course. he wants kate to choose to not steal (maybe if her mom busts her, she won’t steal again, but jacob wants it to be her free will with no outside factors). same with sayid. if he and nadia are happy together, of course he won’t kill/torture again. however, if she is killed and he believes that there are people responsible, jacob wants him to choose to not kill. same with sawyer. he gives sawyer the pen to finish his letter and gives him the choice to finish the letter and vow revenge or not finish it and let it go. he gives hurley the opportunity to go back to the island and presents him with “facts” that maybe he isn’t crazy and blessed (not cursed) and let’s hurley decide if he wants to go back or not.
not sure about the jack encounter.
thoughts? i feel like it is all a big free will v. predeterminism battle between jacob and other guy. jacob wants to prove to other guy that free will exists and not everything is predetermined.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Wasn’t the whole point of this show about getting off the damn island?!
May 14th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Esau’s name in Hebrew means “hairy”,
Lawnmower Man! That is awesome.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Bffredo - That was Seasons 1 and 2. Money has to be made in network tv.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Was Locke’s surprise (if he was in fact inhabited by the bad Jacob) that they weren’t heading to the cabin but to the statue an act then? He seemed pretty surprised that he wasn’t heading to the right place to find Jacob, no?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am
i really like that idea cracker jack.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Did anyone read this book when it came out? Could tie in to Jacob/other Jacob and one of them being the bad twin.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:27 am
No. That was Ilana, the lady on 316 who “captured” Sayid. Jacob needed her help.
Great point. But if Jacob knew the “Other Guy” found the loop and it was just a matter of time, then maybe Jacob assembling the 815ers was for some reason to help him or something.
Also, there is much more to Richard Alpert that we don’t know about. What did he know about Jacob and “Other Guy?” Did Alpert come over on the Black Rock (that was the ship in the opening scene, right?)? What did Alpert mean when he said “Jacob made me like this” when referring to his seemingly ageless appearance?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Oh, well I heard that Alpert actually bought a condo with other Jacob, and when Jacob found out he was pissed so he slept with John Locke. The two then laughed about it over Mohitos.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:30 am
We definitely need an Alpert flashback. I’m really bothered by how easily Jacob dies. If he can stop a guy from aging, how does he let Ben off him so easily.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:31 am
that would explain the eye liner.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am
I can’t believe that Jacob is dead.
Did anyone die in this epi? Strange that not one major player was killed.
I think its safe to assume that was the black rock off shore.
How did Jacob and the other guy get to the island? I know there is now answer but damn the writers are going to have some heavy lifting.
Side note - the Jack “I loved Kate” scene was horrible and the Juliette “They way you looked @ her” scene was awful. I expect better acting.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:38 am
That was the best “what’s in the box” reveal I’ve seen in entertainment since Seven.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:39 am
agreed herdatious, the Juliette scene was probably the only way the writers could get sawyer to let jack do his thing.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:40 am
cgb - We were treated to their meeting during the loophole. For hundreds of years this “Other Guy” has been trying to kill Jacob but couldn’t. I don’t think it was that easy. Jacob was mortal last night and seemed resigned to his death or “death.”
May 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am
can’t wait to return to this thread later in the day. can a few people try to reconvene around 1 ish?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:42 am
I didn’t like this scene at all. Ben, who has manipulated everyone he’s ever come in contact with, suddenly falling for “Locke’s” ploy? Seemed completely out of character for Ben. He should have sniffed out that the [Evil Locke = smoke monster] took the form of his daughter to trick him into doing whatever EL wanted.
Weak sauce.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am
No. That was Ilana, Ndub
Ok, thanks. That makes much more sense.
Side note - the Jack “I loved Kate†scene was horrible and the Juliette “They way you looked @ her†scene was awful. I expect better acting.
I expected better script writing. Agreed those scenes were horrible.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:46 am
@nick - spot on.
the scene with locke confirming ben’s “ill do whatever you ask because my daughter told me too..” was not necessary.
seems like Alpert should have stepped to ben and hatched a plan to protect jacob if necessary…but I go back to Jack telling Alpert to believe in Locke craziness.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Jacob needed his trial subjects back on the island. But this does not mean that he arranged his own death. That was a matter of Esau connecting with Locke. Once Esau was able to communicate with Locke back in the cabin (help me), he was working this angle on the back side. At a minimum, Esau can inhabit any empty vessel on the island. This is why he has used Christian and Claire to manipulate the survivors. And then he took Locke’s appearance to do the manipulation that we have seen during the last few epi’s.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Not quite. The other dude hit Jacob’s boat, didn’t have the insurance to cover it, and was forced to become his butler. Hence the resentment.
/hyena’d
May 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I didn’t like this scene at all. Ben, who has manipulated everyone he’s ever come in contact with, suddenly falling for “Locke’s†ploy? Seemed completely out of character for Ben. Nick
Ben lost his mojo a few episodes back when Locke’s dead body came alive. Everytime he tried to lie or deceive, people called BS on him. He knows he has lost it. Might have something to do with the dead daughter slapping his ass around.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Just re-watched the opening scene. Here’s the dialogue…
Other Guy: Morning.
Jacob: Morning.
OG: Mind if I join you?
Jacob: Please.
Jacob: Want some fish?
OG: Thank you. I just ate.
Jacob: I take it you’re here because of the ship.
OG: I am.
OG: How did they find The Island?
Jacob: You’ll have to ask them when they get here.
OG: I don’t have to ask. You brought them here.
OG: You’re trying to prove me wrong, aren’t you?
Jacob: You are wrong.
OG: Am I?
OG: They come. They fight. They destory. They corrupt. It always ends the same.
Jacob: But it only ends once. Anything that happens before that.. is just progress.
OG: Do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you?
Jacob: Yes.
OG: One of these days, sooner or later, I’m going to find a loophole my friend.
Jacob: When you do I’ll be right here.
OG: Always nice talking to you Jacob.
Jacob: Nice taling to you too.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:47 am
True, maybe he knew there was nothing he could do and he was at peace with it. Thinking about it more, if he had intervened against Ben’s free will then he would have been fighting against everything he stood for.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:49 am
i love this show and will ride with to the end .. but the last two epis. have contained some scenes/writing that has felt rushed/rough/cobbled/overall out of place.
Lots more good stuff but some bizzaro bad. I go back to that Hawking explaining science behind how to find the island scene that was laughable earlier this year.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:50 am
exactly, it was too late to do anything once Alpert found out what has actually happened.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:55 am
thats the money shot for me. “They” being humans/mortals? Is the “Anything” the search for the answer to the destiny/pre-determination question?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:57 am
First, Ben Linus is the creepiest, most evil, root against bad guy I can ever remember on a television show, dating back to at least Boss Hogg.
Second, obviously there are a ton of changes that have had to take place over the years, but what a weak guy they got to play Jacob. I don’t think he was the original guy for the job, I think they used him for continuity’s sake when JJ Abrams moved Lance Reddick to Fringe. So they give him this out of body experience of “dying” only to inhabit the Lawnmower Man’s body, to use better actors to do the work.
Not that any of you care, but did you know that LOST is no longer even in the top 20 in ratings (at least not last week’s show)?
May 14th, 2009 at 9:58 am
american idol is, doesn’t mean it’s quality TV.
May 14th, 2009 at 9:59 am
LOST ratings have traditionally BLOWN. ABC spins the men 18-30whatever key demo standing.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:00 am
DarkUFO always has a summary of ratings/ABC spin for each week.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:02 am
1.) They aren’t God/Satan. God is all-knowing. Jacob clearly doesn’t know everything. I think more Anubis or Jacob and Esau from the bible.
2.) Locke isn’t the loophole. Ben is the loophole. Locke was important. Ben wasn’t.
3.) Ellie was a leader, which means she has probably spoken to Jacob. She is on his side.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Richard brought up a good point, there can be only 1 leader. Does anyone else think the events starting with her killing Faraday ultimately lead to her leaving the island since she knows she must raise Daniel to come back to the island. Widmore declines to go with her, takes over and becomes the leader causing their rift.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:10 am
The answer to the question, “What lies in the shadow of the statue?” is “That which we protect.” in Latin.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:11 am
here is something that needs to be resolved -
the others are protecting the island and working for Jacob.
it seems that the others don’t want other people, Dharma, on the island.
Jacob brings the black rock to the island per the beach conversation. Those two things seem to oppose each other no?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am
So the Ajira and Oceanic people and Alpert are on jacobs side. Widmore, Others, Eloise, Ben on other guys side.
Now what part does Desmond have to play?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:18 am
he will be jacob re-incarnate?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Those gunfights need to stop. They are ridiculous.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:20 am
what are you talking about? Jack actually hit the people he was aiming at this time.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Only one leader at a time for Jacob’s protection? To prevent a loophole?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Maybe that is why they have the truce. They don’t want them there, but they begrudgingly coexist?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
the camera shot of Kate in the bus busting off rounds was super.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
@ Hef maybe, but at the time of his death, there wasn’t a leader (as Locke was dead). Maybe no leader is worse than 2.
@ Jake…I don’t think the sides are that clear
@ Herd…who says Jacob is against Dharma?
May 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
thats what makes them so preposterous
May 14th, 2009 at 10:32 am
The Alpert led others don’t play well with Dharma in 77. Doesn’t that speak to Jacob’s feelings towards Dharma? Assuming that Alpert / Eloise / Widmore are getting orders for what the Others do from Jacob.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I should have written - “Alpert advised..”
May 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Jacob lets free will speak for itself, he doesn’t influence others to share his same feeling.
/speculative
May 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am
@wilhelmreems - Im down with that.
We have heard “Thats what Jacob wants..” many times. Maybe its conjecture.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I’m also wondering if the people that thought they were listening to Jacob were really listening to the other guy.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
if the black rock was Jacobs ship of pawns - who does the other guy bring to the island. does he use Hanso and Dharma vs Jacobs others? isnt that whats going on - Jacob v Other guy by using people brought to the island.
May 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am
‘77 Alpert and the Others clash with Dharma, but they don’t outright go to war. They aren’t best friends, but obviously feel comfortable enough that Ricardos can just walk into Dharmaville. From my observations they only appear to be scared of one another. (as other guy says it is inevitable) The humans always wind up fighting and destryong, their nature.
This doesn’t seem like Jacob’s direction. If Jacob is god like, i doubt he preaches war, yet in real life there have been wars in the name of God(s). More misinterpritations than directions.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Wow this is great banter here. Great shows can do this. No one would talk this deeply about American Fucking Idol.
I’m pretty sure the next 8-9 months are going to be wildly speculative on message boards and blogs. It’s going to be fun but pain-staking. Damn. Think how long 8-9 months is. One of you whackos go fuck a hottie without a rubber so that every month her belly gets bigger, you know you’re one month closer to LOST.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:19 am
They definitely surprised me with the gun fight last night. I figured Jack was gonna think up some kind of plan for how to get the bomb in there, but instead he just starts to bang out like Omar.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I don’t think Esau is interested in bringing people to the island. That is, until he finds their usefulness in killing Jacob. In the opening scene, you get the feeling that he has no desire to bringinging outsiders (again?) and repeatedly (and fatefully, I might add) watching them destroy each other.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Other Guy doesn’t like other people on the island. Whether it’s from previous experience or some divine knowledge, every time people come they, “…fight. They destory. They corrupt. It always ends the same.” So Other Guy doesn’t want them there. Jacob wants them there. For some reason. “But it only ends once. Anything that happens before that… is just progress.”
I don’t understand Jacob’s line there. What only ends once? Is this a permanent time loop? It ends, then starts over? And what happens during, this “progress,” is… is what? Ah!
Also, The 815ers, as outsiders, came there and fought, corrupted and destroyed The Island. As did the Dharma Initiative.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Also, there’s some sort of meaning or symbolism to that afghan or rug or whatever Jacob was knitting at the very beginning and the completed version of it that Ben examined before killing Jacob. Jacob said to Ben about it, “You like it? I did it myself. It takes a very long time when you’re making the thread. But I suppose that’s the point, isn’t it?”
May 14th, 2009 at 11:35 am
He who will save us all.
May 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Anyone on here watch Fringe? The season ender there had a mind twist too. I hope that show is able to stick around for a few more seasons as well.
May 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
recap is up!
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550612_20245769_20278837,00.html
May 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Before they revealed it was Locke, I thought it might be a polar bear.
Most of the highly rated programs are pure crap. It just proves P.T. Barnum was right when he said, “there’s a sucker born every minute.”
May 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
interesting recap this week. sometimes he’s wildly out there with his lost connections to books and such, but he’s reigned it in lately.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Wilhelm - I’m going to have to eat me a five dollar footlong to settle the belly and subsequent concentration before I read the recap.
I’ll probably stick around here for a few hours even though this post will likely get pushed to page two very soon.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Re: Ratings-It is in top 10 with the coveted younger audience.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
ndub: it’s pretty good, thankfully confirmed some thoughts of my own I had. I’ll be checking this post today, I’ve got nothing going on at work at the moment.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Jensen is on the Other Guy was a prisoner in the cabin path.
I remember a scene with Locke and a ghost Horace cutting the wood to build that cabin…
His take on Juliet being the variable is interesting. Her changing her mind about things really changed the outcome of the epi.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
herd:
I think he’s part right in saying that juliet is the variable, i’m not sold her it being her though since we don’t know if Daniel was right or not.
May 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Jensen seems a little too sure that the bomb exploded. Since it just cut to white, how can we be sure?
May 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
i think the scenario set it up to intimate the bomb did go off since it was a nuke and nuke explosions have a bright white explosion.
also have to consider the whole white/black symbolism. maybe the whole time we’ve been watching the show it’s been reflective of the Other Guy’s philosophy that people on the island will end in war, corruption and death in a pre-determined fashion? After the explosion it changed things and the final season will be about exercising free will to create your own destiny?
May 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
can’t believe he had absolutely no thoughts on what a candidate meant.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Not sure if others thought it, but the white flash absolutely meant to me that there was a time jump. All season white flashes have accompanied changes in time. Not sure why that one wouldn’t.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
After a second viewing last night, I think that Esau/Black Shirt Guy:
- - was imprisoned in the cabin until the ash circle was broken (did that happen when Ben & Locke visited the cabin?)
- - has taken on the appearance of dead people on the island (Christian, Horace, Claire, Alex and now Locke) as well as the Smoke Monster;
- - has been playing Locke like a fine-tuned piano this whole time.