Video: If Artie Lange Hadn’t Appeared on Joe Buck’s Show, Would There Be Any Buzz?
Media Gossip/Musings, Soccer June 16th. 2009, 9:00amHBO should be thankful for Artie Lange’s explosion last night on the debut of Joe Buck Live. Here’s how most reviews would have sounded if Lange hadn’t been on the show:
- Favre was boring. He basically confirmed all the news that’s already been out there. Buck’s questions were good, but for a purported comedy show, it opened like a segment that would have appeared on a FOX pre-game show.
- The David Wright segment, while slightly different (camera angle, restaurant, walking the streets), finally tackled the ’sports celebrity’ angle. The questions were solid again, and Wright’s a good guy, but we’re 30 minutes in and there hasn’t been a laugh. Needed more groupies.
- Ocho Cinco and Michael Irvin, two guys who you’d expect to mouth off, didn’t. Buck’s approach was too rigid.
- The Costas/Selig telescope moments were painfully unfunny.
So basically, you’re looking at a ‘D+’ grade – a comedy show that wasn’t funny, and an obviously nervous host who was stiff and rigid.
Then Lange showed up. His opening joke, “TMZ is your favorite website? What’s your 2nd, suckingcock.com?” was terrific and hilarious, but Buck was clearly not expecting it, and as was the case all night, he didn’t take it well.
[Question: Why, if you're discussing the dreaded intersection of sports and celebrity, do you pick these three comedians? Rudd was friends with Buck, so that's obvious. Was he hoping for a Stern bump out of Lange?]
At this point, Lange did hijack the show – but it wasn’t a bad thing. Too many gratuitous F-bombs? Maybe. But it’s HBO. And as Lange said this morning on Stern: “‘[HBO's] Ross Greenburg said to me before the show, ‘if Paul and Jason get boring, you go nuts.’”
“Romo rhymes with homo,” angledust, and Jessica simpson looking like Chris Farley certainly qualify. Where Buck ran into problems was that poorly attempted segway after Lange said “fuck [Romo], fuck the Cowboys.”
Buck was running for his life and Lange grabbed him by the collar. “Good segue. You’re a regular Bob Costas.” From there, it became a back and forth between Lange and Buck, and there’s no way an elite comedian is going to lose that battle to a sportscaster.
AL: I want to be working construction next week.
JB: You’re on your way
AL: Hahahaha, so are youJB: Is this [story] going to take awhile?
AL: Yeah, sorry to ruin your great show
JB: I appreciate the apology, because you have
Then came the smoking debacle – all the while, mind you, the SNL kid and Rudd were laughing – and Buck had lost his show. The afterparty online was even worse:
[Lange attempts smoking trick]
JB: I think [the cigarette's] in chin No. 4
AL: 4? The number show you won’t get to.
AL: You’re out of your league Buck, stick to play-by-play.
Here’s where it gets interesting: On Stern this morning, Lange said that Buck hugged him afterward and said, thanks; he claimed Rudd said it was the ‘greatest thing of all-time.’ He also claims that prior to the show, Buck said, ‘let me have it.’
He did. Isn’t the move for Buck to show some cajones and invite Lange back?
video via Ramblings of the Unmotivated
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June 16th, 2009 at 9:03 am
And that right there is exactly why they invited him in the first place.
This isn’t complicated, people.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:06 am
AWESOME!!! it’s so clear that buck wants to be costas. and he’s a miserable F-A-I-L.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Is it me, or does TBL have a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge hard-on for Artie?
June 16th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Joe Buck has a show now? You have to be kidding.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:09 am
joe buck having his own sit down sports show is questionable enough, why give the guy a comedy hour? Is this the same genius that thought putting Magic Johnson on late night would be a winner?
what the fuck. Maybe Buck can invite Kenny Mayne on next week and they can both laugh at really shitty jokes together.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Jim Norton would’ve been better, without having to resort to dick jokes.
/cursed
June 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
just a semi
the guy’s funny
June 16th, 2009 at 9:16 am
after hearing lange’s commentary on “stripper idol” last week on stern and laughing the hardest i have laughed in maybe years, i’m starting to warm to the guy.
i’m still a jackie the jokeman guy. but i’m beginning to see the light with artie.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:21 am
What was HBO and Joe Buck expecting when they booked Artie? Him rehasing some Yankee stories from the 77-78 seasons? That’s Artie.. rude, crude and crass and I’m glad he tore into Buck a little. Good for him.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Is it me, or does TBL have a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge hard-on for Artie?
just a semi
the guy’s funny
he is, but he wasn’t on that clip. I didn’t make it to 3.5 minutes. Paul Rudd has as much personality as wallpaper
June 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Holy Artie Lang overload. Enough already.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
TBL wants to get mentioned by or invited to the Stern show
June 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Didn’t think Artie was all that funny–sounded more like recycled roast material. Buck hurt himself by making too much of a deal over him throughout.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Artie is fine when he actually brings it. All his jokes were pretty predictable last night, I wasn’t loffing and loffing last night like TBL, but whatever.
I just think Jim Norton is quicker and smarter (although not a huge fan of his stand up these days)
By the way, I seriously want an accurate number of listeners for the Stern show these days. You seriously can’t find it. All you hear is Stern spinning his numbers. He assumes every subscriber is a Stern listener. How many do you guys think it really is?
June 16th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I guess if the point was to get me to realize that Joe Buck’s show was on last night, mission accomplished. But another show with Lange on it would be unwatchable (even more so).
June 16th, 2009 at 9:30 am
“It was a great time except Artie smelled like tequilla and urine” -Paul Rudd 6/15/09
June 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I just felt the whole time last night it was “uh ohhh, Artie said what?? Folks, that’s why we brought him in…heyohhhhhh, This show is sooo unpredictable. What’s he going to say next? That’s just Artie being Artie.”
And at every turn, the crowd over-laughing at his antics.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:33 am
jim norton … eh? did he at one point have some good material at a roast on comedy central?
June 16th, 2009 at 9:34 am
i’ve read various reports where anywhere from 50-60 percent of sirius subscribers listen to stern.
while i worship stern, the same reports i’ve read also show the second most popular show on sirius is bubba and i can’t figure that one out. i’ve never thought that guy was even remotely funny.
nfl radio was the third most popular channel.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:34 am
The only problem I have with Jim Norton is that hes not funny.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Howard Stern is overrated. He just forces things and tries too hard. If there is any comedy in his show, it’s from his guests and not him.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Norton was pretty good at the Simmons Roast. Good Skynyrd line.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Oh, and fuck you Stern for crippling Sirius with your ridiculous contract.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
St. Bear, used to be a big Stern fan. But shows evolve and now it’s not my type of thing.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
What was HBO and Joe Buck expecting when they booked Artie?
They got exactly what they expected. I’ve never understood the Stern cabal thing, so I’m just going to let this one go other than to say that was so scripted it was probably rehearsed beforehand.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Rudd was in full “duck and cover” mode after the “Lucky Pierre” comment.
Sudeikis at least got in the “But I still have a chance” barb.
But Hurricane Artie swept this show off the tracks. Buck’s never getting it back.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Bababooey said just yesterday on the Wrap-Up Show that the WUS was the second-most-listened to show on Sirius.
If I were to guess, of the 30+ million subscribers, Stern probably has a daily audience of about 5 million.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:45 am
This was like watching a trainwreck. One side, a borderline funny comedian with serious substance abuse problems, and the other a piece of plywood. Shit was terrible. I’m hoping this gets canceled before Fallon’s show.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:47 am
wus show??? i thought jackie’s show was called “joke hunt?”
June 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Buck should’ve just interviewed an old Negro Leaguer and waited for the Emmy to arrive, aka “the Costas formula”
June 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
The only problem I have with Jim Norton is that hes not funny
couldn’t agree more
cursed: I caught Opie & Anthony on Fallon last week on your recommendation. My opinion: I’ll still take Stern
June 16th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Joe Buck and HBO knew exactly what they were getting into with Artie as a guest. Especially since New Yorkers and New York sports fans in general love Artie. He was going to have the crowd on his side no matter what he did or said last night.
Norton is funny but really is like a poor mans Artie in a lot of ways. A lot of shock and self deprecation in his stand up. Plus, Norton has been the sidekick for years of Opie and Anthony. Broadcasters who protest as they might are certainly Stern clones.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:50 am
that’s racist.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:52 am
tommy – what is that guess based upon? i dont have #’s, but i do know this – anytime howard has a good guest or a great story, that person will shoot up to the top 10 on google trends that morning. guess what’s #1 right now? Lange/Buck.
this was a good read re: why sirius is nearly bankrupt (it aint stern)
June 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Lange is just like Belushi or Farley, except without the talent.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I know the answer without even clicking the link… Why in the holy hell would anyone PAY to listen to the radio? The whole premise is dumb.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Oh, and fuck you Stern for crippling Sirius with your ridiculous contract.
St. Bear: There wouldn’t BE a Sirius if they hadn’t landed Stern in the 1st place. The problem was that Sirius and XM went into business knowing only one company was going to survive, so they went like crazy for partnerships (carmakers) and big names (Stern, Oprah) to get subscribers.
I don’t think Stern is as consistantly funny as he used to be, but he is still heads and shoulders over anybody else in the mornings, even after 25 years, imo.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
JPQ, the O&A appearance was alright, there were three hard edits and Fallon said three minutes out of their 10 were edited out for time. He said next time they’ll be the first guests for sure.
Anthony did get a great aids joke in, and told Fallon’s audience to “shut up” demonstrably, that was pretty funny.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I think the main reason I enjoy O&A more (again, used to be a Stern fan), is that O&A is better with the comedians. When Nick Dip or Louis CK come on, they get full reign over the show, it seems like Stern overpowers comedians when they come on. Although Opie and Anthony are more of a comedians show, where everyone comes on and beats eachother up, which is probably not as appealing to a mass audience. It definitely seems like comedians and NY-based writers gravitate towards O&A. You guys ever been to the comedy cellar in NYC where the comedians all hang? They’re all talking about Opie and Anthony and not Stern.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Anthony did get a great aids joke in
In seeing this guy for the first time ever, I thought Anthony was unfunny as hell, and looks like he has AIDS.
I just googled the guy, because in watching him, I thought he was gay, but I see they do a TON of anti-gay stuff, so maybe he just self-loathes.
/freud’d
June 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I do it so I don’t have to listen to commercials. Plus I drive a rig and I like continuity.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Well, that’s one thing, another is that almost everyone I know who has Sirius listens to Howard on a daily basis. I’m not saying 5 million at any given time, but 5 million throughout the day.
And I just listened to West Coast feed of Artie talking about this, and he really patted himself on the back, saying his Jack Buck joke killed (which it didn’t), and how the audience was howling (which it wasn’t)…
June 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
apparently cursed is a big fan of AIDS jokes and plane crashes
June 16th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Norton might have been too self-deprecating to go after Buck — unless Buck actually went after him first.
That said, anyone actually expect this show to last? More canned, non-story interviews? More self-aggrandizing tales of the magic of sports? Ugh.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Freddy Mercury going down in a single prop would be comedy gold.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
The biggest difference between Stern fans and O&A fans is that Stern fans don’t think anyone else doing radio is funny. I think Stern has had some good bits (few and far between lately, I still listen when O&A are on vacation).
To just flatly say that Anthony and Norton aren’t funny, is pretty ridiculous. It shows that you probably haven’t given the show a shot.
/comedy expert
June 16th, 2009 at 10:10 am
re: pay for the radio
the $2.99 a month (or whatever it is) isn’t a big deal. not to mention that on sundays, you can get every NFL game instead of just what’s in your market.
the only thing i listen to is Stern
June 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I’ve never regretted paying for satellite radio. The main reason I switched is because terrestrial radio doesn’t play enough of the kind of music I’m into. Plus I made frequent trips from where I live in NJ up to NH and down to NC, and it’s nice not to have to search for a radio station. Throw in the lack of commercials, the comedy and some talk stations for variety, and I’m a happy customer.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Howard drove the Sirius subscribers 10x. Anyone that has Sirius knows that Howard is the best thing on it. Anyone that doesn’t good luck with Rush and Boomer and Carton.
Second best show is absolutely Jason Ellis. O&A is just a rip off act. They obviously are funny at times, but nothing really unique about them. Ellis has his own flare.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
ROFLMAOMGBBQ@Artie Lange being an “elite comedian” the guy is a hack defined. The same gay/racist/gambling ‘jokes’ not only on the stern show but on every talkshow he appears on…Howard needs to rid himself of this tool and make it the Howard stern show again instead of the artie Lange show with the occasional interjection by Howard stern. And if you’re a fan of the show and been listening the last week and a half you’ll have noticed that Howard has now turned off arties mic for most of the show and when his mic is on and he begins to spew his unfunny inane drivel, Howard immediately cuts him off and moves the show along. So Howard has clearly had ass full of him also he just doesn’t have the balls to fire him
June 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I think the only place The Joe Buck Show is getting discussed more than here at TBL is at HBO, where they are trying to figure out if they can keep from making those other three shows they agreed to.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Nortons standup is terrible. I liked him on Quinns show like 10 years ago, but keep in mind that I also liked Adam Sandler 10 years ago. So that should tell you something about what I thought was funny.
Antawn, #5 pick overall for ben wallace, sasha? yes please.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Ellis and Opie and Anthony have a lot of crossover and they’ve promoted the shit out of him. He’s a big friend of the show. As far as “unique” sure, they’re another morning show that goes over the news with a “cast of characters.” Is Stern or Bubba really doing anything unique these days?
Have you guys heard Pete Dominick on POTUS? I think he’s pretty damn good.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
I liked Pete Dominick on the Uncensored Comedy Request Hour, but I don’t care enough about politics to listen to his new show.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I am a huuuuuuge Jay Thomas fan. His afternoon show is the shit, especially with Rodney in the ha-ha seat.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I miss Tough Crowd. Love when Colin comes on O&A, he’s hilarious, especially when he’s ripping on Rich Vos.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
This kind of exposure is going to lead to a Beer League sequel getting greenlit. Gonna be a bunch of guidos running around and taking billiards way too seriously.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am
/fixed for accuracy
June 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
what’s even dumber is putting up with the pap that is on free radio. i swear to god if i had to listen to terrestrial radio i’d either shoot myself or ram my truck into a brick wall it is so horrible.
for every decent (not good, decent) radio show on free radio there are 20 so bad you’d rather spend 20 minutes hitting yourself over the head with a hammer.
about the only thing i listen to all day is flipping back and forth between stern, nfl radio and rivals radio.
the commercial bspn has mocking local radio is pretty accurate with the only exception being that bspn radio is often worse.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Link?
June 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Anyone calling Artie’s act recycled really doesn’t know much about comedians. They all have an act. Of course you are going to here the same comments over and over again. It’s called their act. Norton does the same stuff.
Also, I know O&A has been kind to Ellis, but the shows really aren’t alike. Ellismate is awesome. If people haven’t heard him, gotta check him out of radio faction. A breathe of fresh air, and you def can’t get that style on terrestrial radio. Regardless of O&A, Howard, Ellis, others, satellite kills the regular radio. You really are missing out if you don’t have it. People pay for water, so don’t play the it’s too expensive card.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:27 am
nfl radio is banging the drum pretty hard too.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:27 am
‘regular’ radio is the pits.
we can pick what we want to read and what we want to watch … but not listen to? Sirius is the only way to go
June 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Joe Buck sucks. I hope his show bombs.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
The $12.95 or whatever I pay each month for satellite radio is well worth it. Terrestial radio sucks, plain and simple.
As for Stern, I’ve been a listener for almost 30 years going back to his DC 101 days. You can tell by listening to him now that the guy is just bored. He’s no longer young, no longer edgy, no longer struggling to make his name. He was hilarious back when he was the one doing bits (instead of Sal and Richard and all of the bit players now) or bitching about not getting laid. He’s still the best thing on radio and I still listen to him most mornings, but you can tell that the fire has gone out.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:44 am
bingo! aside from the occasional interview and a rare outburst, stern has lost his edge. he really relies on artie, sal and richard to carry him outside of interviews.
he’s still the king but nowhere near what he was when he was the angry (and funnier) stern with jackie was feeding him all sorts of crazy one-liners.
pissed off stern was alwasys the best stern. now, he’s won. no reason to be bitter. got the hot model wife and insane contract. he’s too relaxed.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Stern puts on 5 hours a day. He is able to entertain for that entire time. Also, I think most people choose to remember the occassional shocking moment from Howards past, and then think his entire show was that. What he does now is way more shocking that what he did on the regular radio, he just isn’t getting fined for it.
Also, Artie wasn’t tired at all on that show. He killed out there.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
If Joe Buck hated Artie’s performance, then why does he go back to Artie during the overtime segment? He knows where the entertainment is. To say he lost control is pathetic. He is the host, it is his job to keep it in line. The worst part of this whole thing is that he bashes Artie in the media, but on the show he keeps going back to him.
June 16th, 2009 at 10:53 am
What he does now is way more shocking that what he did on the regular radio
June 16th, 2009 at 11:27 am
+1 Tommy
And for Stern still …it’s a New York thing now mostly. Stern jumped the shark about 1997 with that sorry-ass movie. And then no wonder he and his wife separated before divorce many years later.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Exactly! If you drive a lot it is worth it. But like most of us if you don’t drive near as much, what’s the point?
June 16th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Interesting that you use the term jump the shark for Stern. I am guessing you still listen to Stern.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Exactly! If you drive a lot it is worth it. But like most of us if you don’t drive near as much, what’s the point?
The point is, would you rather listen to a commercial on your short drive, or do you actually want to hear something.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Without Howard Stern face it — you can’t be Sirius. They know that for sure. So basically they should just call it Howard. Sirius is a dumb name.
And then even with Howard, Sirius has never been profitable either.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SIRI
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=SIRI&annual
Check out those (gasp!) financials especially you Wall Street types as well. Fohgedaboudit is an understatement.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Uh, there is such a thing as an iPod or CDs …and even then a short burst of ESPN radio in some parts of the country but not the northeast unless you are obsessed with baseball.
ESPN sure makes fun of homer radio, but in the Northeast they are awful homers on ESPN radio!
June 16th, 2009 at 11:43 am
No. Note since about 1998 soon after that movie. His separation changed everything, including any credibility he had with his show as he pulled it off for years. I knew then the best days were in the past, even now most fans will acknowledge that.
Note that even on video-on-demand on my cable there are older Stern segments available for replay. Doesn’t he have some Howard channel now though too?
Like his show on E! at one time, that makes him more compelling when you can see the hot chicks he is interviewing.
However, the games he had a lock on with chicks are over in this internet era when you can just flip on hot nude chicks doing nasty porn at any time. Howard is not so much a victim of jumping the shark as he is of media fragmentation like most has-beens in the media from those days before the mass use of the internet by the general public instead of mostly geeks.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:45 am
You really don’t know how to read financials, but thanks for the links. Not sure if you noticed the growing revenue each year. Most of their issues stem from extreme start-up costs. Also, their balance sheet has some strong assets.
Also, in case you don’t read the roundup every day…the economy is in trouble. So all businesses are struggling. Clear Channel (aka biggest player in terrestrial radio) is also in financial troubles.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:50 am
As I mentioned earlier, obviously he has great hits of the past, but people act like every show used to be the bees knees. Hence the reason he has older shows on demand now (which is all part of the current Howard TV programming). The stuff from the air in the past is actually helping his current broadcast as they are able to compile segments made of the best of the best, and history of Howard. Howard hasn’t lost it, people have just lost their attention span. As you mentioned, there are ipod and CDs (although I don’t know anyone that uses them) that you can listen to, but in case you didn’t notice, you also pay to use those. For the cost of 1 CD, you can get a month of Sirius (if the CD is on sale).
June 16th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Is that the only place you can hear that term?
June 16th, 2009 at 11:51 am
+1.5 St. Bear
Yes correct, Stern is like most East Coast comedians too for that matter. The “I’m just a regular dude who happens to be famous but never changed” schtick does not come off anymore or work. Stern used to be more witty and genuinely funny, now it is all either telegraphed or canned like in Southern humour.
Stern’s just not hardly funny any more, and neither is anyone who has an act that resembles remotely that of Seinfeld, the ’90s heir to Andy Rooney, whining neurotically and frenetically about menial predicaments on a regular basis, and probably whilst actually constipated, about the utterly meaningless.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:52 am
You know better Clown.
http://www.jumptheshark.com
June 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
+3 JPQ
Sadly, yes, but he is thinking like a businessman so that is a smart move.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Buck and his producers must have some idea what they were getting into with Lange. Anyone who has seen him do stand-up or heard him on Stern has to realize that Lange can go on a filthy rant like that at the drop of the hat. For Buck not to be able to control the segment just shows how much out of his element he was.
June 16th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Is that the only place you can hear that term?
You do know the person that invented that website/term is on the Stern show right?
Anyone that listens to Stern now, knows that he doesn’t play the every man card. From stories of $800 wine, dining with Regis, travelling to his place in the Hamptons, you are wrong to think that he is still an everyman. Also, proves how great he is, since he convinced listeners that he was this everyman. Howard is hardly like the rest of us.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
No, he’s lost it. And Sirius has lost a lot of money with him. Check the score.
Yes for Howard they have, so they turn on something else.
Dude, what decade are you living in? It’s called the internet. We pay for nothing any more. Legal or illegal, it’s all mostly free. And some folks hardly have to pay for high-speed internet access anymore with WiFi services.
Did I forget to mention that once you’ve seen Artie’s act, you need not see it again? Wayyyyyyy too predictable and telegraphed to be a decent comedian, but you can’t convince hardly any New Yorker he’s not funny after the first time. He’s only successful due to his New York base. Other than the rest of the country plus a few Howard fans few folks give a shit about yet another loud fat slob.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Exactly, but he used to be more that way. But then there was that awful movie and …
A jump the school of sharks moment I saw occurred when he went on Bill O’Reilly and they were circle-jerking each other. The old Stern never would have gone on with such a tool and ultimate hypocrite who advocates regularly censorship amidst other “old-gaurd” condescending moralist rhetoric as ultimately as well a shill for Bush in his time under the guise of “independent.” Yeah, the whole financial debacle he did not see coming either as he was “looking out for us” right. That sums up O’Reilly’s Faux News Channel anyway (disclosure, I know MSNBC is the new Obama channel, and CNN would be better if they just got rid of all the old folks but Dobbs working there before 2004 as it skews way too geriatric)
Go ahead, defend Stern more now for who he is, but I’m perfectly happy with who he was and want to stay that way.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
ipods still cost money. For the cost of 1 ipod, you can get a radio, a lifetime subscription, and have money left over. Blank CDs still cost money if you get your music that way.
Since you are saying that Howard is irrelevant, then what has replaced him? You can bring up O&A, but they are on the same medium. You can bring up Rush, but people only listen to him because he is clueless. Other than ipods, where people can create their own soundtrack, who is it out there that you would rather listen to? Local youkles on ESPN radio, don’t sound like a great alternative to me. I don’t really care to hear people complain about east coast bias.
As for Artie, he is a comedian, they all have an act. Artie plays this vulgar gruff guy, which I think he is. He isn’t the funniest thing on the planet, but he is sure entertaining, and as this post is directed, he was the best part of the show.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Look at the annuals. I see now massively increasing declining profits. You can’t talk all you want like the Wall Street spinmeisters about projected revenues. I’ll stick to more conservative revenues.
And please, you are defending a penny stock here? Go buy some then. Good luck.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Look at the annuals. I see now massively increasing declining profits. You can’t talk all you want like the Wall Street spinmeisters about projected revenues. I’ll stick to more conservative profits.
And please, you are defending a penny stock here? Go buy some then. Good luck.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Look at the annuals. I see now massively increasing declining profits. You can’t talk all you want like the Wall Street spinmeisters about projected revenues. I’ll stick to more conservative profits.
And please, you are defending a penny stock here? Go buy some then. Good luck.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Not sure why it went through three times, but I meant PROFITS not revenues.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Go ahead, defend Stern more now for who he is, but I’m perfectly happy with who he was and want to stay that way.
Who he is now, is all we have to listen to. I am not saying he is as great as hsi greatest moments, but he is creating all new highlights too. I sure am entertained most of the time I listen to him, and I think as a listener that is all I can ask for. Someone who makes my day easier.
As was brought up before, things are less shocking with the internet and all. At least he isn’t playing the tired game of seeing what gross thing he can do next (O&A), or say something stupid just to be talked about (Imus). He is revolutionizing with the times. Carrying an entire medium is impressive. It would be like if ESPN was the only website worth visiting on the internet. There aren’t a lot of options, and I am happy with this option.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
When did I say that? Don’t put words in my text.
Ditto. I didn’t. You did.
You have to meet more folks under the age of 30. They do it all the time. Have you ever heard of file sharing?
True on the local yokels on ESPN radio. Don’t worry whether you care or not you will hear about East Coast bias including from folks like me on here as well. There is still way too much of it, unless of course you are from the East Coast and oblivious to it like most of them.
Yes he has an act that is funny mostly to New Yorkers. That does not make him genuinely funny to a wider audience, but he has his act and niche and it works for him. His mere presence plus three words say “I’m just a foul-mouthed, fat, dumb, obnoxious dude from a New York and …” (laugh track/audience telegraphs him)
Yeah, funny guy, ha ha.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Dietsch:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/richard_deitsch/06/16/buck.lange/index.html?bcnn=yes
June 16th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Part of the reason for the drop is from dumb investors seeing jumps from $5-$9 then buying it like crazy. That diluted the value in the market.
I am not saying they are in good financial position. Hell, they could go out of business, but it is a good product, it does have strong assets (hence the talks of hostile takeovers in the past), and they have increased revenue substantially. Their expenses have increased (Howard being one), but mostly they revolve around the expensive infrastructure. There are a number of reasons that the company is not doing well, but that doesn’t make it a bad company.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
paolo we get it you think private parts sucked. but you do realize that you are in the minority on that one, right? (79% on rottentomatoes)
June 16th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
You have not been on either eBay or to an office supply store lately have you? Uh, actually, used iPods are cheap and aplenty. Blank CDs have been cheap for years. What decade do you live in again?
June 16th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Sorry, replace irrelevant with unfunny. I asked you for alternatives. Obviously, I gave you a list of some you could take, but you don’t like them either, so who do you listen to?
As for file sharing…I know you can get songs for free, but do you get ipods for free too? If you do, good for you, you must have very few expenses.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Because Rotten Tomatos is Gospel? Point well taken, but amongst my peer group of guys under 40, I would be interested to hear how many think “Private Parts” is even a good movie. What a massive let-down.
Again folks, I’ll treasure the Stern of old. He is not the same as the Stern who let his exposure go to his head and lost his marriage after “Private Parts.”
When is he going back to see Bill O’Reilly? Letterman or Leno I can understand, but c’mon! You old fans know as well that the old Stern never would have tolerated the likes of O’Reilly.
But the new Stern is more “enterprising” errr, should I say, desperate? Just a few years ago he was bitching as Sirius began its long, steady increase in lost PROFITS (forget that “revenue” or “projected revenue” Wall Street bullshit) that not enough of his old fans were moving over the serious. He blamed it on them being too cheap, and that was a great point.
But of course he forgot conveniently that he did not have as many old fans anymore. I am hardly alone in that regard, but you won’t here from many like me on here because most who would post here would still be fans anyway by the nature of the topic.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
For me the last funny comedian was Dave Chappelle no question, and he was not on it of course all the time but who is?
Will Ferrell had it going with a few films and is genuinely funny, but then he does stuff like “Talladega Nights” (that “Tiny Baby Jesus” scene was funny though), that basketball film, and now another dumb one.
I am hardly a regular comedy fan I will admit and pretty picky about most stuff anyway.
And then here and there I see a funny skit but no other names come to mind right now.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Basically I don’t make the argument for getting everything for free, but one need not pay some monthly fee to have choice to all the content hardly for very cheap. And I am not going to come on here and explain how to do it when you can just ask someone under the age of 30 at any given high school, college, or singles hangout.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Artie Lange- an elite comedian? You’re pulling my leg, right? That oozing cesspool of a human being, Dane Cook, is still funnier than Lange will ever hope to be.
Re: I’m a native NY’er, and have never found him to be remotely entertaining.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
yes
June 16th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I forgot about him! Yes Dane Cook is another funny one.
+1.5 Bruce
Thanks for speaking out at last as a rare New Yorker who does NOT think or act like Artie Lange is still funny (assuming you even thought he was the first time you saw or heard him)
June 16th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
artie lange sucks but dane cook is funny? paolo you’re an embarrassment to semi-literate irish grads everywhere
June 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Maybe 6 years ago
June 16th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I guess you misunderstood what I was asking about. What programming would you rather listen to in the Talk Radio world. Obviously, you could download Chappelle and listen to him all you want on an ipod, but that would be hard pressed to get some current events commentary. There is no better alternative to Howard in the radio world, whether terrestrial or satellite. I ask again, who do you think is better?
As for the costs, I know you can get music for free. You don’t have to explain how to do it. What I said is the cost of an ipod $200+ is enough to buy a radio and a lifetime subscription to siruis (thus negating the monthly cost). So for the cost of an ipod you can get live radio. If you prefer your ipod and the same playlists, I can’t argue with that, but at the very least, the cost is not so enormous burden.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Because I am literate? I know of not one semi-literate Irish grad other than perhaps due to medical trauma. Are you an Irish grad Bob?
If so, shame on you. I don’t care for another Irish grad’s comments on here, but I would not stoop that low for an alumnus unless physically attacked, and even then I would cut some slack especially if he were drunk.
If not, don’t speak for us go fuck yourself and whatever piece of shit school you went to or more likely fraternity you are a part of.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Is Carrot Top funnier than Artie Lange?
June 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
the closest i’ve ever been to new york is washington d.c and i love stern and artie (and jackie).
stern started to slip when jackie left. when stern had jackie and billy west it was the best radio in the history of the medium.
still, his show is light years better than 98 percent of the tripe on terrestrial radio which is positively absymal.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
maybe i was too generous calling you semi-literate. and no i’m not an irish grad thank god, i went to a basketball camp there in 8th grade and it was by far the shittiest campus of any private university i’ve ever seen. roaches in the showers in indiana, what the fuck. and not that you have any reason to believe a stranger on the internet, but i went to a better school than nd.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Fuck no! True story — he used to shop at the same supermarket where I did in Las Vegas, where I saw him a few times. He is the same in real life as on stage but apparently he gets some massive skin treatment. And he is one ugly dude too.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Cursed,
I like Norton but O&A just doesn’t do it for me at all. They’ve had their shot to be the guys but they failed.
Since coming to Sirius:
—Created two channels full of original programming instead of running the show once a day on some channel.
—A news team to cover the Stern world
—The wrap up show (A show to recap and go in-depth of the Stern show)
—Multiple one hour shows in the 7 pm time slot (SuperFan Round Table, Intern Show, Jackie’s Joke Hunt (sucks), Straight Talk with John the Stutter, Etc.)
These are all unique in the radio world that have generated tons of material and fodder for the show.
Yeah, he isn’t a young Howard anymore but his show is still the best damn thing out there by a mile.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Jackie was better for awhile, and then it seemed like Howard tried to bust on him too much.
Touchdown! Absolutely!
June 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
The questions are moot for me when you read one of my early responses above. I just don’t spend that much time as you in the car.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Calling an Irish grad “semi-literate” …enough said end of discussion. Repeat from above FUCKER BOB:
Oh, and go fuck yourself another high hard one whilst you are at it.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Everything else you said was on Wildcat but this line of utter bullshit, but I am not here to argue with plenty of Howard Stern fans remaining as his show is for them and at least most here agree it’s not the older, better Stern anymore.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I don’t know why I even bothered talking about this subject with you Paolo. You admitted to not really listening to the show for the last 11 years. Maybe you should talk to someone who has listened to the show in the last decade before you decide about how much Howard sucks, or has lost his mojo.
You can listen to more than just in your car. You really don’t even know what you are talking about.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
man, testy thread.
why can’t comedy on the radio be like comedy in movies? it’s all subjective.
-Adam Sandler sucks in the movies.
-Adam Sandler was funny on SNL.
-Gilbert Gottfried is hilarious on stern, unfunny elsewhere.
-Opie and Anthony suck.
-Dane Cook sells 5 million comedy CDs and gets into the movies … yet everyone here says he sucks (i couldn’t name one joke of his, and he was bad in that movie with jessica simpson)
-the Stern show is the only thing worth listening to on the radio besides NPR
June 16th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Because you are a rabid Stern fan for whom he can do no wrong? Big deal go for it!
I’ve heard his show at times since, but it’s not the same for me and I am hardly alone. See comments above from another old fan.
His gig is up for some old fans like me, and I like that way instead of having those good times tarnished by the “new Howard.”
And apparently you have yet to discover downloading content on the internet for free and ways to do it and you are going to come here and tell me that? Yeah, ok, right, you know what you are talking about sure …just go back and listen to Howard no matter what he says and laugh.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
You should check the thread, there are more pro Howard than con. You should find Michael J. Fox, hop in a Delorian, and go back to the 80’s and listen to Howard rip on Pigvirus. You are a tool. Stern has evolved, sorry you got left behind.
June 16th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Nope just moved on …you obviously devolved …go back and laugh no matter what he says you zombie.
What a douchebag you are Die after some great initial points and questions. You get mad when other folks don’t think the guy you are laughing at is funny like he used to be? I’d say get a life, but then again you are a zombie so just go back and laugh mindlessly at Stern and Artie Lange.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I just don’t get how you opine and criticize Stern’s current programming when you haven’t really listened in a decade. If you left it at he was done in ‘98 so I stopped listening, that would be fine. I am telling you he has a lot going on, and you refuse this he is worth the listen. I get what you are saying though, I get tired of things too (like ESPN), so I can see where you are coming from. You aren’t wrong for your opinion, but I think you are misinformed.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
TBL…you should really listen to Jason Ellis on faction (28). He is extremely entertaining, plus you probably have a better chance of ever getting on his show than Howards.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Four HUGE yesses in a row, Dane Cook is funny period, and no to Stern or NPR or any talk radio any more…I’ll just take music or ESPN radio when they aren’t talkin’ again about fuckin’ baseball, which is only about 20% of the time on the East Coast when it is not football season
June 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Paolo likes Dane Cook? That explains so much.
/stay thirsty
June 16th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
F’ing Bingo!
June 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
paolo -2 for run on sentences and general lack of coherence
June 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Ok, I’m awake again.. I guess for the non-music it might make sense, but in a world where you can hook up an Ipod to your radio, getting it for the music is still dumb.