Moneyball – the Movie, Not the Concept – is Dead
Baseball, Movies June 23rd. 2009, 1:00pm
One of this summer’s interns is Andy Hutchins, a student at the University of Florida. He runs The Arena. He welcomes your Tebow hate, even if it has nothing to do with his post.
Alas, Moneyball, the big-screen adaptation of the Michael Lewis book, has been shelved. Variety reports that a final script from Steven Soderbergh was “it very different from the earlier scripts,” and that Columbia Pictures’ Amy Pascal “was uncomfortable enough with how the vision had changed that she applied the brakes.”
Of course, the changes that Pascal’s referring to are what made that version of Moneyball sound so fun. It had Soderbergh reinventing Bill James as a cartoon character (which delighted some), Demetri Martin as Paul De Podesta, a $60 million budget, and interviews with Lenny Dykstra and Darryl Strawberry. That’s probably what turned the project, which teamed Soderbergh with his Ocean’s Eleven running mate Brad Pitt (cast as A’s GM Billy Beane), from a cute little lark to a vanity project not worth the time or money; in cutting the project, which was set to start filming today in Phoenix, Columbia can cast it as a kooky little thing that works better in Soderbergh’s mind than on paper.
That, unfortunately for “Moneyball” practitioners, is exactly why the movie would have been great for the idea.
Criticism of “Moneyball” persists to this day, and gets batted down whenever it flares up. But it’s hard to read Lewis’ pseudo-epilogue to Moneyball and not get the impression that there were more than a few misconceptions about the book and theory themselves, much less its successes and failures, and that those misconceptions in “the Club” were so deeply entrenched that no amount of explanation would dispel them. Some writers even thought Beane wrote the book: Lewis quotes Doug Krikorian, of the Long Beach Press Telegram: “But he’s also a shameless self-promoter who wrote a book about his imagined genius and is despised by scouts around baseball.”
But if Beane is despised or viewed as a paper tiger because of the book (and because of Oakland’s postseason struggles), all the better: He can flip personal animus into professional gain, by picking up on the things that other GMs might not value, and, true to the tenets of Moneyball, exploit market inefficiencies to make the most of limited resources.
The chances of that perception, and further smokescreens about “Moneyball” reaching the silver screen? Huge. Having Brad Pitt portray Beane powers the Beane-as-Superman idea; the prospect of the movie turning into a cartoon-slash-documentary that would focus on “computer statistics” and other nerdier aspects of the idea would further discredit it.
And, of course, that’s how “Moneyball” should flourish: By taking advantage of what others can’t or refuse to see, and by appearing to fly in the face of conventional wisdom. Barring another studio claiming the project, it seems like we won’t get to see that scenario play out with a movie.
But, hey: Someone could produce this musical.
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June 23rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
wrestling fans can thank me later for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfosfT8Ojbg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewrestlinginc%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Andyman
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Tebow = overrated
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I don’t want to criticize Moneyball or the philosophies behind it because they have brought about a lot of good things to the sport. But, I don’t see how people consider Billy Beane to be one of the better GMs.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
20 years from now we will thank Tebow for revolutionizing the game with his jump-pass.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Moneyball the movie was a terrible idea – can’t say I am shocked… Steven S. can make some great stuff but this was a big reach. What non-baseball nerd wants to see that? For $60 million? What a reach.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
The smartest thing Beane ever did was not go to Boston so he could be exposed as the overrated hackfraud that he is.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I could care less about his first post about a movie that is not going to happen, but TBL Godfather you chose wisely from the best school in the SEC (F the rest of you mostly hicks down there!) at the very least. Welcome Andy step it up here and the spoils of blog fame await you.
You would be hard pressed to find a crowd as demanding of journalistic integrity and entertainment value anywhere else, so make sure to back up anything that remotely can sound like BS unless of course it is just an opinion. And definitely don’t follow BSPN’s lead either.
Your bravery to apply and pledge to the mission is to be commended today.
TBL Godfather give him his first medal please.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
How bout a post on all the Gay-tors getting arrested?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Richard Jefferson to spurs for scrubs….
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
oberto, thomas, and bowen
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/27094
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
wow milwaukee was really desperate to get rid of rj to take him for those 3.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I would like to read that. Good to see we have another southern fried intern. Can’t wait for college football season even more now.
Fuck off you Notre Dame loving douchebag.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
they were trying to get rid him for an expiring contract at the deadline also if you recall
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
good stuff Oakley
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Andy, lesson one, expect fierce opposition from another fine SEC football source, and also Nebraska homer, Gods down there in Atlanta. I bet he likes many an SEC but of course Florida like no one I have met in Georgia for sure. And of course they all hate Notre Dame and Roman Catholics in general down there in the South, but then again I can’t blame them they have their own popes on every street corner.
Man up for many a battle royale with Gods and other SEC homers who hate Florida too Andy. I pledge my support to your part transparent, part covert operation come football season, and the battle lines are drawn here today.
Now please go plan that ambush and assault carefully.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
not Florida
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
How much/long does RJ have left on his contract?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
That is an interesting move for the Spurs. If Manu is healthy, the Spurs could be a force next year. Manu, Parker, Duncan and Jefferson? That’s a damn strong offense.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
worst movie idea ever. unless Conan played the nerd aka billy beane.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
who dont you hate, paolo? you hate the yankees and you hate us hicks. ive been told i have a lot of hate in me…
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I don’t hate Florida at all…fuck, I’m envious of them. Though even Paolo would have to admit that Meyer is a one ‘uge ass hole. I also don’t hate Roman Catholics, I can’t stand any religion. I am an equal opporunity hater when it comes to religion.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Welcome Andy (”Rockabye”)
I can’t believe this movie even got close to being green-lit in the first place. Who is the audience? 90% of baseball fans wouldn’t understand what “Moneyball” is, and women wouldn’t go to see a “baseball nerd” movie, even w/ Pitt in it.
No wonder movies suck today
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
If this movie never gets done, how will the rest of america learn what a VORP or BAIP is?
/trying to get this baseball post back on track
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
i figured bowen had more staying power in san antonio since his star turn in kobe: being a douche
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
im waiting on shaq or someone above 300 pounds to hammer fist bowen in the face for trying to injure them
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I thought he already worked here?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I was really surprised when I heard this movie was going to be made. Not surprised at all that it has since been shut down. If they were going to make it for 20-30 mil, maybe they could turn a profit, but 60 mil is an outrageous number.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:37 pm
The Nuggets are shopping Chauncey Billups to try and make a run at Hakeem Nicks Ben Gordon…does this make sense to anyone? I just don’t see it.
Billups can actually dribble and play defense. Ben….can’t.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
well said gods.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
And….apparently strike-thru doesn’t work.
You all know what I was getting at with Hakeem Nicks…
/feels like shame
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Nice post, SuperAndy.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Are you serious? Why the fuck would they do that?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Great question …of course I don’t hate everything! Some of my favourites:
Lakers
Pacers
Notre Dame
People Who Back Up Their Points With Examples & Evidence
Colts
Florida
Rugby
Soccer/Football
NFL Football
Any Given Season, About 8 College Teams
Small-Time Betting On Football
Pac 10 Football (but not really any given team)
Mandalay Bay
Chicks Who Are Not Ninnies
The Orleans
People Who Can Manage To Agree To Disagree
Most People Between The Coasts But Outside The South Except Douchebags
Interesting Figures On Here Who Might Be More Interesting Than The Most Interesting Man
TBL, The Premiere & Prime Source For The REAL Sports Scoop Plus Hot Tits And Ass
Guys Who Won’t Tolerate Ninnies At All Like Me: If you need help or are confused like that dude I ripped on yesterday, perhaps please watch again the Rick James clips by Dave Chappelle until you get it.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
How awesome would it be it TBL made SuperAndy an intern? We would get to hear about how all immigrants need to be exterminated on a weekly basis. Riots would ensue.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Hey to each his own. Definitely you’ll have a hard time down there with nowhere else I have been more folks approaching you to join their church, errrr (cough, cough), ask for your “tithe” …they’ll see you as the Devil incarnate of course whenever you don’t quite fit into their judgmental phony nice sugar-coated bullshit moulds …I hate those folks too.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
It may be coming.
Nah, I was loitering. There’s a difference.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
i didn’t know florida was vanderbilt. wow, you learn something new everyday!
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
It’s time for a new post TBL. The comment section on this one has been hijacked by Paolo.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Spencer…what did you think of the open?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I oppose this motion for sure. See if you can spot his cameo in this clip along with a Clown impostor playing guitar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F72aSnrsvw
Bonus Question For Musicians: In what classic rock song lies the likely root source guitar riff for the catchy rhythm guitar in this song?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I would personally finance any movie that cast Brad Pitt as me. I mean how much action would that get you, its one hell of a pick up line.
P.S. Tebow likes dudes
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Andy, what year are you at UF?
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Intern Bill > Intern Andy (at least for now)
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
An Intern that comments? What a novel concept!
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
gods…thought it was ok. kinda let me down a little bit…and it’s not a knock against glover who has been decent of late (contended late at quail hollow when it was playing harder than bethpage), but the weather took a lot of steam out of it.
tiger got fucked by a 4 hole stretch and a bad tee draw. if he had mickelson’s draw, he would’ve won by 10…and you can totally blame that on NBC.
glover is a world class ballstriker, and was dipping the whole time, so i can get behind a player like that…but he’s boring as fuck. hunter mahan could’ve put himself in a position to win if he didn’t get TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY, HORRENDOUSLY unlucky when his shot hit the pin and riccocheted off the green.
overall…it was a decent open, but nowhere near as great as 2002’s version.
the new york crowds were fucking terrible though. it’s one thing to cheer and be loud, it’s another to be wholly uneducated about the game you pretend to be experts about. don’t cheer shots that stop 10 feet above the hole with a 10% chance of making the next putt, don’t give out advice on how to read putts at a course you’ve played, but not in these conditions.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Rising junior. And I may or may not stick around at the comment section here, but there’s plenty of “Contact” and “About” stuff at my blog.
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Rockabye is the intern? good choice TBL
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Ah the intern revealeth himself! I remember some of his commentary from before on other posts too. Very promising. Okay I’ll check out your blog now.
Congratulations again.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Intern Bill?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Total bullshit if the 11 year old from LA isnt one of the interns
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Spencer:
I agree on the weather…it totally fucked the golf up. I was fairly disappointed, but there really isn’t anything they could have done. I was pulling for Phil, but dammit he makes it difficult. Tied with 4 to go and he shits the bed.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
tiger got fucked by a 4 hole stretch and a bad tee draw. if he had mickelson’s draw, he would’ve won by 10…and you can totally blame that on NBC.
spencer: I disgaree. Tiger was out of synch from the first swing on Thursday, he didn’t make a putt all week. On the draw, he himself said that at +4 he was only upset because the best anyone did out of the draw was -1, so he felt he should have done better. That said, he completely should have won the thing, as poorly as everybody played Monday (except Duval for 17 holes & Glover)
Also, the weather draw hits the tour EVERY week, that’s why it’s the “luck of the draw”. The USGA and NBC would have gotten even more shit if Phil caught that draw (”you robbed Phil of a chance to win”-even though they have no control over when it rains relative to pairings made 5 days in advance).
Regarding the fans, I love how they despise A-Rod for being a choker, but adore Phil for being the same thing.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
i give him a huge pass…he hit one bad putt that cost him 2 strokes right after that and that closing stretch of 15, 16 and 17 are tough, tough holes (18 is a terrible finishing hole considering how hard the rest of the course is). plus, he hasn’t played a tourney in over a month and had to do the whole thing with amy, so i can’t imagine him being in top form even though he played quite well.
and if anyone deserves scorn, it’s tiger for the last 4 holes of his first day. that was some of the most pathetic golf i’ve ever seen. it seemed like he was pissed they didn’t call off the round sooner and he decided to play golf like a spoiled bitch for that stretch. plus, unlike phil, tiger was a total prick in the interview room.
rumors are already going around that the 2017 open will get bethpage because the USGA guys wanna see how it will play in firm and fast conditions.
re: weather…they should’ve called off the first round entirely. they knew they were headed for a monday finish and should’ve cut their losses right off the bat. sucks for the fans who bought thurs tix, but blame mother nature.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
depends on who you ask. a lot of people hate him for this. especially since he just fluffs it off.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Tiger lost the open on the last four holes of his first round. Had he shot even, instead of 4 over, he would have won going away, and I’m not sure weather had that much to do with those 4 holes specifically.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Giving the white guy a pass and shitting on the Cablanasian?
That’s racist, homie.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
no offense, but fuck you tiger.
“i absolutely striped the ball all week.”
really? you did?
i remember a HANDFUL of approaches 150 and in where you left yourself 15+ feet. your driver was uninspiring. your short game was B+ at best. how can you expect yourself to make putts when you don’t give yourself good opportunities?
if anyone “striped” it all week it was glover and mahan. oh, and sergio, who, literally, didn’t make a single meaningful putt all week and still top 10′d.
and NBC sets the draws for phil and tiger to get the most out of their tv slots. there’s no luck when tiger is getting primed for a friday primetime slot so he gets the morning draw on thursday.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
it’s golf…what do you expect?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
spencer agree with you on Tiger. He’s always been kind of a dick, but he seems like he’s taking it to another level. Other than that putt on 18 at Bay Hill, Dude hasn’t smiled on a course in about three years. Even winning Memorial, he walks off, takes the hat off, shakes Jack’s hand anc acts like he just had a business lunch with the people at Nike.
Phil’s act just seems so fake, it’s tough to get behind it. Take 4 steps, thumbs up to the crowd, smile, touch cap brim, repeat sequence
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
jack congratulates tiger after memorial, “thanks buddy” was tigers response. pretty weak. im hoping duval is really back, although he certainly can hold his own in the a-hole department.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
considering ive heard stories of him passing out drunk in CC parking lots, having illegit kids in ohio and walking in on MJ fucking his wife…im pretty confident the act is fake.
then again, he does give a fuckload to charity, treats people with respect and actually gives the fans some acknowledgement. so while his smile and family guy routine might be worthy of the moniker “plastic phil,” he’s still one of the good guys. i’ll always be a phil fan.
/because he can hit a 180 yard 9 iron
i give tiger some slack because he deals with shit no other golfer has had to with regards to all the off-the-course celebrity and his desire to maintain a private life, but he’s been acting like a bitch lately.
he totally needs to ditch haney too.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
no way.
we give tiger slack for being a dick, then we have to give the same slack to duval. duval is painfully shy (hence the glasses) and hates doing the public bullshit that being a pro athlete requires. so he grouses? so what? he’s a genuine good guy from everything ive heard.
plus, coming back from the golf hell he was in would be the story of a lifetime.
vijay gets the same treatment, but not so much anymore. every tour player loves him and he’s a goofy asshole when not between the ropes. but to the press, he was always vijay the villain.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
he totally needs to ditch haney too.
yesterday on the radio I caught Curtis Strange for like 2 minutes and he said the same thing. He said a guy THAT good who spends THAT much time on one aspect of his game (driving), and still can’t hit it straight, maybe what they’re working on isn’t right.
then Tirico immediately follows up with, “and he played in the rain, didn’t hit a shot or make a putt, and came in 6TH, only 3 back”. Don’t want to piss off Tiger!
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I get the feeling that Phil is a genuinly nice dude. I have nothing to prove that, but it’s just a hunch.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
WTF?? Phil has illegit child? Didn’t see that coming.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
seriously.
and the thing is, tiger was the fucking man with the driver back when he was with butch. sure, he had his errant moments, but when he was money, he was MONEY. since he’s been with hank, he’s been no more accurate at all and has lost distance…yet, this is a GOOD thing?
then again, his work with haney has really shown up in his distance control and spin control with his short irons and wedges. he’s sick, freak nasty with those (except for this weekend i guess).
regardless…this was tiger’s tourney to lose, and he was never a factor.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I get the feeling that Phil is a genuinly nice dude. I have nothing to prove that, but it’s just a hunch.
I wish that were true, but I seriously doubt that it is. He seems like a super nice guy to me, too, but there are just too many stories about his colossal prickiness for all of them not to be true. Plus, his nickname is FIGJAM.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
does finishing in the top 5 of the US give him any exemptions?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
What does that stand for?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
just a rumor…but it’s got some merit seeing as he avoids the memorial like the plague. supposedly he’s got a kid with a black woman in the columbus area and is too ashamed to show up because of the hoity-toity nature of the CC crowds.
i don’t buy it tho because columbus is 90 mins from akron and he plays at firestone every year.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
fuck im great, just ask me.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
yep…all the majors. not like he needed them as he already has a lifetime exemption for winning 20+ tourneys.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Spencer, how does Turnberry (sp?) shape up for the British? Who does it favor?
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pm
oh, you were talking about duval…he doesn’t have 20 wins.
then yea, it gives him all sorts of exemptions.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
it all depends on the weather, but it’s normally a ballstriker’s paradise.
aside from the usual suspects, id look for one of those freak kids who can pure it 100% of the time…hunter mahan has been especially impressive lately.
June 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
mahan,duval,sergio in the british. get your bets down early.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Oliver Wilson win the British.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
id be shocked…ive spent countless hungover sunday’s wathcing him vomit all over himself when he’s on the back stretch with the lead.
and by countless i mean three.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Is Tiger not the favorite?
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
@Spencer – So, I got fried on here yesterday for saying Tiger won’t win at Turnberry. I don’t think it’s set up for him.
You’re the golf correspondent. Thoughts?
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
of course he’s the favorite. pro golf isn’t called tiger vs. the field for nothing.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
of course he’s the favorite. pro golf isn’t called tiger vs. the field for nothing.
you got that right. My favorite was ESPN ticker on US Open:
1. Barnes (-9),,,2. Glover (-6) …Mickelson 8 shots back…Woods 11 shots back
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
SC…the way tiger’s swinging, who knows which tiger will show up?
there isn’t a course in the world that doesn’t fit his game when his game is on. southern hills wasn’t supposed to fit him and he tore the field apart clinically. he was never supposed to win a US Open, yet he’s won 3, including one in the most ridiculous display of asswhoopery in sports history. same thing at lytham in 2006.
i always expect tiger to win whatever tournament he enters so i wouldn’t be shocked, but there are some good horses for the course.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
jpq…that shit pisses me off hardcore.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
jpq…that shit pisses me off hardcore
me too. I was in the car the other day, listening to PGA on XM (hardly ever listen), and they were talking about people’s “backstories” (the Amy cancer thing, Goydos’ wife, etc). I realized that you NEVER see that on golf coverage, unless it’s a huge 10 minute Chris Connelly/Tom Rinaldi thing that has me bawling by the end of it.
For example, they should get Duval or David Toms or any one of 50 guys and sit down and talk about what it was like to be at/near the top, and what you had to do to get it back. Doesn’t have to be sappy, but I consider myself a casual fan now (not obsessed like i used to be), and I know NOTHING about any of the guys, and the #1 guy won’t LET you know anything about him.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
totally…there are a lot of great stories out there.
what about sean o’hair’s trouble with his dad that was so bad at points during his junior career that his dad would kick him out of the hotel room and sean would be forced to stay with the mahan’s? he’s been the most consistently excellent golfer all year and you didn’t hear anything about his personal life outside of his outrageously pimped out practice shed at his house.
that’d be a lot more captivating than yet another 30 mins of tiger fellatio.
then again, if i ran the coverage, id just show a 3 hour loop of sergio hitting irons on the range. hell, that’d be more interesting than some of the shit they show now that isn’t pure golf coverage.