Well, the LeBron Haters Will Eat This Up …
NBA, Race June 30th. 2009, 6:00pm
A reader sent in the following tip yesterday: “… He played a audio clip of Lebron James doing a station id drop. I couldn’t record it, but the transcript went like this … Lebron James: “this is G unit radio. I want to give a shout out to my man dj who kid, representing g unit and shadyville for all you haters out there and your [bleeping] mouths, [racial epithet].” Without audio, we didn’t think the post had a shot. And … now there’s audio. Allegedly.
Is it him? Could be. Maybe not. Freak out people! The best player in the NBA said a bad word! If Kobe did this … Personally, we’re all for capturing a raw, unfiltered message from athletes … even if it isn’t going to sit well with the establishment (Stern, the team, the fanbase, etc).
The King Curses? LeBron Uses “N†Word (Cursed Cleveland)
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June 30th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Cue the 12 year old!
June 30th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
this is a pointless post…
June 30th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Personally, we’re all for capturing a raw, unfiltered message from athletes … even if it isn’t going to sit well with the establishment
So am I, so people can see that 80% of these people are complete idiots
June 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
A black man said the “n” word. Truly this is the first time in history that that has happened.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
A black man said the “n†word. Truly this is the first time in history that that has happened.
Let’s all just be glad it wasn’t Brian Scalabrine, because I don’t know if Al Sharpton can completely dominate two national non-stories simultaneously
June 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Good thing hes Black.
/That didnt even sound like LeBron.
//jpq hates black people
June 30th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
so……lebron = uncle ruckus?
June 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Good thing hes Black.
/That didnt even sound like LeBron.
//tampa hates white people
June 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
come on jpq. You’ve been around since the Civil War(Sorry abou you side losing and all). You know the rules when it comes to that word.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
this reminds me of the time when walter payton said “what wrong with you people” to a bunch of black folks who were asking for his autograph.. the black folks all said “wait…what do YOU mean ‘YOU PEOPLE!’”…jesse jackson was picketing at sweetness’ house the next damn day.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
A black man said the “n†word. Truly this is the first time in history that that has happened.
Perhaps he said the “M” word.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
what is going on with my keyboard???
June 30th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
haha nice.
Next time maybe dont get a 40 year old to try and sound like LeBron.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I just heard a Lil Wayne song on my Ipod and he said it too!!! Someone tell ESPN quick!!
June 30th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Is this for real?
June 30th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
come on jpq. You’ve been around since the Civil War(Sorry abou you side losing and all). You know the rules when it comes to that word.
mak: only around since Vietnam, and yes I do know the rules: do as I say, not as I do.
This is a serious question: if the “n word” is so offensive (which I think it is, btw), why do when black people continue to use it when referring to another black person it’s ok? I get the slave/white person connotation being offensive and degrading, but to me, it’s bad no matter WHO says it. The reason I said what I said is the hypocrisy that somehow that word only offends when it is said by a white person. That word is, to me, like calling a woman a “c word”: offensive whenever it is said.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Always follow this rule
June 30th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
no. no it’s not real, bryan. Neither is the Easter Bunny.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I remember that story mrejr. Ive heard LeBron say worse during Cavs games.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
nobody should use the word…black,white,yellow,purple. when i was in basic training my drill sergeant(who is white) snapped the fuck out on two guys(both black) who were constantly using the word when they were bullshitting with each other. he told them the word was disrespectful and disgusting. they accused him of being racist…he showed up with his wife(black) and children the next day(mixed) the accusations of him being racist werent brought up again. it was awesome seeing those 2 dude’s face when they saw his wife and kids though…good stuff.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
the “b” word >>> the “c” word when it comes to women.
as for why we use it. Trying to turn a negative into a positive, I guess. Spelled different as well.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
You’re out your mind Mak. The “c” word trumps all. Say that to a girl and it will stop her dead in her tracks and then some serious stuff is about to go down.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
That had as much chance of being LeBron as I do.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
I called a girl a b in high school once in front of her friends. It didn’t go well.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
the “b†word >>> the “c†word when it comes to women.
mak: you’re not serious?
If I was in a bar and said the “c-word” to a woman, I would get the same reaction I would get by calling you an “n word” in that same bar. The woman would throw a drink in my face and you would punch me in the face.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Women get pissed over the b word, but they get over it. Women don’t get over the c word.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
the c word can stop traffic. however there is a female commenter here who has grown used to the word…hell its even her cb handle
June 30th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Thats why its best to just refer to these women as Harry Seward
June 30th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
in terms of rules, c word is mainly acceptable when used by magician’s to name boats or a cruder, lesser man than himself, talking about McNulty’s wife.
Anything else has to be questionable and Bruce Wayne has that covered.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
years ago i was talking to my oldest son’s mother on the phone and i could hear her mother yelling about me in the background. i calmly said “not only are you a c, your sister is a c and your mother is a c.” very volatile.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
1. Last I checked he’s black, so like everyone said, who cares
2. Having said who cares, that sounds nothing like him
3. I’m shocked, just blown away that it was Cursed “reporting” this, I imagine he’s currently working on a piece about Kobe volunteering at the free clinic and giving poor kids rides to school.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
You guys need some intermediate words. Here are some words I say sometimes, and they all make my wife just as mad as the big C.
Gash, Twat, Cunny. All of those are tremendous, especially Twat, sounded like cat.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
I’m no expert at women, but most dont mind B (especially when they know they are being a B), but you in for a world of hurt if you use C.
June 30th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
in terms of rules, c word is mainly acceptable when used by magician’s to name boats or a cruder, lesser man than himself, talking about McNulty’s wife.
joboo: you just went all Paolo on us. I have no idea what you just said. Are you British, because I know the c-word is a biggie over there
June 30th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
if he would have just said “mondays” this wouldnt be a story…you know because everyone hates mondays
June 30th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
jpq, I was trying to make reference to GOBs boat the Seaward on Arrested Development and a reference to The Wire. Those are the two best uses of the c-word in TV.
As I hit send, though, I definitely got the paolo vibe when I read it back, so weird that you mentioned that.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Paolo should be banned for using the N-word all the time on here. Ninnies.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I prefer axe wound personally…
June 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
jpq, I was trying to make reference to GOBs boat the Seaward on Arrested Development and a reference to The Wire. Those are the two best uses of the c-word in TV.
joboo: never really watched Arrested Development, but the Jimmy McNulty I now get, as I watched all of The Wire
June 30th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
This probably came from cursed since this was played on the Opie and Anthony show yesterday and the dj who kid referenced is a dj on one of the XM channels I believe it is shade45
June 30th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Two things never to say to a woman:
1) The C word
2) Are you on the rag?
June 30th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
jpq tell us about the time jerry west called the white fans that showed up to the lakers home games a bunch of “cracka ass honkeys”.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
2) Are you on the rag?
There are Too Short lyrics playing in my head right now that I’m too grown up to type out. Sad day.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
+1
I like hatchet wound but, same thing.
June 30th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
I prefer axe wound personally…
I like hatchet wound but, same thing.
One’s bigger.
So I said to the girl, Jeez you got a big pussy. Jeez you got a big pussy.
She said, why’d you say that twice?
I said, I didn’t.
/predator
June 30th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Wow. I just listened to that. That was not LeBron James. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
C word. You just don’t use it. I can have a pretty naughty mouth and when I use it doesn’t feel right (that’s what she said?).
N word. Amazing how often that gets thrown around, especially in rap and hip hop music (one of my faves Three 6 Mafia).
Like using the word “great” when discussing a sports team, player or game, I think the N word has lost some luster. It depends on HOW you use it. Are you using it to directly insult a person, like it always seemed to be? Or are you using it like you’re shootin’ the shit with a friend?
June 30th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
i think the general use of the word by black folk is ironic/sarcasm. there’s too much bad history for white people to use the word.
for future reference, oppressed people/minorities/underdogs can pick at each other.
June 30th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
i know people can sound different on the phone than they do on tv or in person, but that doesn’t even really sound like him. I’m calling bullshit
June 30th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
did he shake hands with the shows producer afterwards though? thats what we really want to know.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
For those saying it’s not LeBron James, you’re just flat out wrong. He’s boys with DJ Whoo Kid (seriously). They’ve hung out in the past, he’s not some shock jock who’s big on radio bits. He’s a big-time producer who’s collaborated with some of the biggest names in rap. Why would he make this and have an impersonator come on…drum up controversy, and ruin his friendship with one of the most famous guys in the country.
And, do you guys know of any LeBron impersonators out there? Wouldn’t you think the guy would have surfaced..wouldn’t you think he’d try to capitalize on it?
It’s LeBron, there’s no point even debating it. The inflection is the exact same, as the is the tone. If any of you have really heard LeBron speak off the cuff, that’s how he sounds.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
And furthermore, if it was fake, wouldn’t there be some well thought out line of dialogue that was written for or by the impressionist? Why would you waste such a bit on 20 seconds. When Frank Caliendo started doing Madden, did he do 20 second liners? Or did he do like 40 minutes of radio on various shows.
It’s LeBron guys. Sorry to anyone who’s offended that the real LeBron talks like that (have you read his lips during games in the last five years?)
June 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
“raciality”
/fake
June 30th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
https://www.datpiff.com/DJ_Whoo_Kid_Young_Buck_G-Unit_Radio_24_-_The_Clea.m2818.html
LeBron has done stuff with DJ Whoo Kid before.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
cursed, Im assuming you didnt read the comments based on your strange conclusion that this somehow offended people. I will summarize the comments for you: No one was offended. No one cares.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Duder, the people who are in denial that it was him are the ones that don’t want their image of LeBron tarnished. That’s what I was talking about in terms of “being offended.” I could care less if people use the “N” word or whatever racial epithet they want to use. Words don’t bother me.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
First, duder is correct. Second, hahaha, did you listen to anything on that link you posted? The reason this audio is jacked up and doesnt sound right or like him is because its the audio from that album you just posted. Take a little of clip 23, mixed with clip 1, and you have this youtube audio. So a black man making a rap album used a curse word and the N word, the horror (and if datpiff.com is to be believed well over 2 years old).
I must say I was surprised to see DJ who kid (/whitey’d) sampling The Beta Band (song 2, Daydreams).
June 30th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Duder isn’t correct, go to the other forums who are talking about this as it’s the end of the world. People do care when people use words. I’m not saying I agree with them…words don’t offend me in any way. But to act as if people don’t care, that’s naive. Imagine the president using the “n” word. You don’t think that’s newsworthy? LeBron is similar. He’s so guarded with his speech, that that type of speech is a shocker to the fanboys out there.
And as for that audio…that’s just proof that he’s boys with DJ Whoo Kid. He might have mixed those, or that might be LeBron’s “Go-to ghetto phrase.” Rappers use these all the time. I’ve heard AK from Do or Die use the same phrase in songs and in interviews countless times.
So what exactly was your point Coop?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
No point, having listened to both, clearly LeBron on both (possibly even exact same audio), still not caring.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
False. I could give two shits if it’s LeBron or if it “tarnishes” his legacy. Don’t put words into my mouth. I’m just saying it sounds nothing like LeBron.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
NDub, are you that sanctimonious to believe I was targeting you and nobody else. I was writing to the general commenters here and in other boards where this is posted, that don’t believe it’s him – because they have some sort of stake in him not saying something perceived by some to be “offensive.”
You can say all you want that it sounds nothing like him, but you look pretty stupid with the overwhelming proof that I provided. Are you still suggesting it’s not him, or were you providing a point of view where you’re admit it’s him but you still don’t think it sounds like him? If then, I kind of apologize. But it’s obviously him. He put out album drops with the same guy who happens to have this exact audio. Hmmmm. Pretty obviously it’s him.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Cursed: Okay, great, you believe it’s him because he’s “boys with Whoo Kid” and you think a couple of radio guys (sure, O&A, whatever) are credible on this.
But compare the voice in that video to him speaking here. Are you telling me those are unequivocally the same person? I have my doubts.
There’s no “overwhelming proof” here for me: I just have your word that he’s boys with Whoo Kid, some audio that kinda sorta sounds like him, and evidence of prior mixtapes with his name on them. I’ve never ever heard of producers making up drops or anything.
The motive for LeBron to help Whoo Kid when he’s boys with Jay-Z is fuzzy; while LeBron would certainly be entitled to use whatever language he wants, the prospective global icon should be smarter than to leave a chink in his armor with a spot on a Young Buck mixtape.
I’m still unconvinced. And very little could convince me. Believe what you want, but beyond actually seeing LeBron recording this, I’m going to have to believe differently, just because things don’t add up.
coop: It’s the instrumental for Lupe Fiasco’s “Daydreaming.” I assume Whoo Kid (or whoever produced the mixtape) just swiped it.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:00 am
lebron might be a huge basketball star but he has a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way to go to be similar to the president. any president.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:04 am
You should have written that first, b/c then I would have realized that you’ve already made your mind up..and if the fact that he’s worked with Whoo Kid in the past doesn’t convince you, then it’s a lost cause. Obviously the only way you would have bought it would have been if you were in the studio. Failing that – this whole back-and-forth is pointless.
And this has nothing to do with Opie and Anthony..DJ Whoo brought this on their show b/c he obviously wanted more exposure. This wasn’t a radio “bit.”
July 1st, 2009 at 1:15 am
So Andy, you’re saying that DJ Whoo Kid (a respected NY based DJ who’s worked with some of the top names in modern day rap) has been selling these mix-tapes with LeBron James names on them but with a LeBron James impostor? You’d think that would be a pretty big story and that LeBron wouldn’t be too happy about that. The mix-tape in question is available on the internet on at least 20 different music sites (after a cursory search). So you’re still unconvinced that he’s worked with him?
It just really seems like you’ve made your mind up that LeBron will never say or do the wrong thing and that fact leaves you doubting any instance in which he really does say or do the perceived “wrong thing.” It seems like some heavy duty confirmation bias is at work here.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:49 am
This sounds like stirring the pot of Cleveland discontent too much TBL Godfather. This tale is too speculative now, but hey I can’t blame you for posting as foundation for follow-up in case the story gets legs later as did the Don Imus deal or the Rush Limbaugh-McNabb tale because it would be huge.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:55 am
Sorry, this is long.
Insinuating that I don’t know who Whoo Kid was is probably not the best way to continue having a rational conversation. But, yes, I know who he is.
No, I’m not saying that. But “selling” is disingenuous when referring to any mixtape at the moment. At Dat Piff, you can hear the entire mixtape for free, streaming; I guarantee that means there’s a Rapidshare link for this mixtape somewhere.
Whoo Kid’s “selling” some mixtapes, sure, and probably more in the physical sense than online, but mixtapes have become, in this day and age, promo for albums, and mixtapes are the place you can put out uncleared samples and all sorts of interesting stuff specifically because they aren’t for sale. You don’t sell mixtapes and make a fortune, not since Hammer was hawking them out of the back of his car in the Bay.
Not happy, sure, but what pittance of revenue from mixtape sales would this be compared to LeBron’s endorsement deals/contract? Would it be worth the negative publicity to squash something like this and bring the comments to light on his own? I’m not so sure.
Probably for free, right?
We’ll get to how this confuses the question a bit, but I’ll say that I do believe LeBron has worked with Whoo Kid before based on the evidence before me.
You’re projecting a perception you have about LeBron defenders onto me. I don’t think LeBron, or any other athlete, is infallible; I certainly don’t think this is beyond the realm of possibility…
…because it seems to me that you’re the one suffering from the confirmation bias here.
You’re the person who stands the most to benefit from this being true, far more than anyone directly involved in the situation, no? If this story hits and gets traction, you broke it and can reap whatever hits/attention it gets you; I don’t see ads on your site, which leads me to believe you’re not looking to profit financially from it.
Your staunch defense of the post in the comments here, one that transitions from defense of your work to lashing out at those critical, furthers the idea that you’ve got a lot invested in this being true, whether for the sake of attention or the sake of your own credibility.
I wouldn’t blame you for either one of those things: Your credibility is your worth as an independent blogger, and you’re more than entitled to make money off of your content if that’s what you want to do. But I point them out as things that I have to consider might cloud your judgment if I’m taking this as skeptically as I think it should.
Were I on a jury in a supposed court of justice, telling me a DJ brought a drop onto a shock radio show, playing it for me compared to previous drops, and comparing it to the defense’s likely employ of clips like the one I used, I would not be able to say that it’s LeBron without a doubt.
But I’m a skeptic. And I require a lot of proof.
In any case, good luck with this, and stay on the trail. Clearly, it gets a reaction from some people.
July 1st, 2009 at 8:59 am
Good call on that song Andy, never heard of lupe, I would be embarrassed but i openly admit my music knowledge is quite poor.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:16 am
I can’t believe this post garnered 67 posts. Then again I can because people didn’t care so much that they had to express it. Who gives a fuck. I guess that makes 68.