Did Brian Sabean Really Just Trade a Top Pitching Prospect For Freddy Sanchez?
Baseball, Delicate Geniuses July 30th. 2009, 3:30pm
The San Francisco Giants traded Tim Alderson, one of their top pitching prospects, for Freddy Sanchez. This move begs one question: how is Brian Sabean still general managing a major league baseball team?
Here was Sabean’s comment on the trade.
“Simply put, our long-awaited next move has finally been consummated,” Giants general manager Brian Sabean said. “A kid that has distinguished himself as an All-Star three out of the last four years and a batting champ within that time frame. The timing’s great.”
Brian Sabean traded a top prospect for a 31-year-old “kid,” and his best complement is that he won a batting title four seasons ago. Sanchez hit .344 in 2006. He has never hit higher than .304 in any other season. He has hit .300 in only one other season. Conveniently, Sabean ignores 2008, when Sanchez could not muster a .300 on base percentage.
Freddy Sanchez does not get on base, he does not hit for power and he has no speed. “Simply put,” he does nothing that will help San Francisco’s mediocre offense score runs.
Not only did the Giants give up a top prospect for Sanchez, but they picked up his entire salary and may have to pay his $8 million option next season.
To add to this, Sanchez has a knee injury. San Francisco doctors found “no major defects” in the knee, but a minor one will keep him from playing until Monday.
The Giants are in a wild card race, but Freddy Sanchez does not help them win it.
This move comes from the man who traded Francisco Liriano, Boof Bonser and Joe Nathan for A.J. Pierzynski, who gave Barry Zito a minimum of $133 million, who paid Aaron Rowand $60 million after a blatant contract year, who forfeited a first round pick to sign Michael Tucker in 2005, who gave Edgar Renteria to an innane contract, and who has routinely acquired grizzled veterans, such as Reggie Sanders, Marquis Grissom, Moises Alou, Mike Matheny, Steve Finley, Randy Winn, J.T. Snow, Matt Morris, and Tim Worrell.
It is one thing to value your prospects too highly. It is quite another to fritter them away like Rip Taylor with confetti, while getting nothing in return.
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July 30th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Two clean wins on the trades for the Pirates yesterday!
July 30th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Oh and, contract the Pirates!
July 30th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I like what the Pirates are doing. i never thought i’d hear myself say that.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Bravo Duffy. Giants fans blame Mcgowan for ALL of those moves by the way, especially Zito. Don’t know the excuses now.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
since i cannot decipher what the pirates are doing, can you help?
July 30th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
It is quite another to fritter them away like Rip Taylor with confetti,
Now THAT would be watching a faggot dance
/oops, wrong post’d
July 30th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Freddy Sanchez: won a batting title in the major leagues
Tim Alderson: a prospect who MAY do something in the major leagues
Good trade. Never underestimate an actual commodity. Never overestimate a prospect.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I thought Alderson wasn’t as highly regarded as he once was, Sanchez is an upgrade over Uribe, so if you think you are selling high and getting an upgrade at a position then it isn’t that bad of move to be listed next to zito and the AJ trade.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
You really can’t decipher what they’re doing when they trade two guys who wouldn’t re-sign (one of them for WAY above his market value) and a guy who lost his MLB level stuff two years ago? Or trading LaRoche, who has done nothing for that team and makes way too much money. Or Morgan, who was having a nice season but probably won’t replicate it next year and beyond, for two high risk high reward guys? Or trading a 28 year old who peaked already to open up a roster spot for someone who is a much better defensive center fielder, and leadoff hitter, and is only 22?
Well shit.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
TBL….There’s no middle ground with the Pirates anymore. This team finally is saying “Fuck it, we aren’t going anywhere, get the prospects, develop them and maybe compete in 3 or 4 years when some of these kids are ready. They know they aren’t gonna sign anyone because nobody wants to go play for that shit franchise. They are finally realizing “we are the pirates” and need to start from complete scratch and build from the ground up. it’s a humbling kick in the balls to do, but definately the right thing to do. Compete or blow it up.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Oh and from Huntington himself
And from the Post Gazette
July 30th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
on the value of Sanchez/Wilson:
July 30th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
the pirates trading nyjer morgan was one of the saddest sports moments ever.
perfect style, perfect uniform…call me gay or whatever, but THAT’S what a baseball player should look like. now he’s on corporate, drab, boring uniformed washington? not fair.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Won’t the Pirates just trade these guys in 2-3 years anyway?
July 30th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Exactly. And Huntington even said it yesterday, if these moves don’t pan out he gets fired, and he accepts that.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
they are being cheap bastards with no intent on keeping any real talent.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I didn’t know Paul Lukas posted here
July 30th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Good trade. Never underestimate an actual commodity. Never overestimate a prospect.
except actual commodities cost a lot of money and prospests are cost controlled for years.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Who the fuck wrote that? Wilson missed half the season last year and is hitting below his career average this year.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-4-74/Pirates-on-verge-of-losing-keystone-combo.html
July 30th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Wow, well I just lost a ton of respect for Neyer. And calling them a ‘keystone combo’ when this team hasn’t had a winning season since the first Bush administration is a huge misnomer.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
sherrill to dodgers, go pick up jim johnson if you need saves.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
You’re gay.
/dirt
July 30th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4365281&name=law_keith
July 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
July 30th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
cubs are getting ready to land lefty reliever John Grabow from the pirates
July 30th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
So, where can I find odds for a Pirates-Indians World Series in 2013
July 30th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
So, where can I find odds for a Pirates-Indians World Series in 2013
I just creamed myself……. but It would just be another reason for Shittsburgh to kick our ass and laugh at us again.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
4,384,856 : 1
July 30th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I just don’t understand what teams are supposed to do in your guys minds when they clearly aren’t winnin any time soon.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
duffy’s getting dangerously close to mariotti territory.
yesterday he crucifies the phillies for not giving up the farm for halliday.
today he’s crucifying the giants for giving up prospects.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
He didn’t setup sessions in his spring training camps for his players to learn how to properly administer PEDs.
/sorry, I missed the whole thread earlier on Ortiz and Manny, had to get that in…Boston did that
//on a side note, I got into grad school (that’s not SSP, is it?)
July 30th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
oh, we’re not expecting anything different…
just don’t expect us to watch, buy tickets or give a shit.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
agree. which is why i think people shouldn’t rail against the Tigers when they traded Smoltz for Doyle Alexander. Alexander did what the Tigers wanted him to do. They wouldn’t have made that stretch run without him and would have missed the playoffs.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Hey Pirates fans, let’s look at their 2009 payroll now. $21 million dollars!! Their highest paid player makes only $2.5 million. And if the Cubs get Grabow, the Pirates will be under $20 million. The Pirates would do better if they decided to hold the Steelers’ practices at PNC Park rather than baseball games.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
can’t wait for the ortiz/manny post from him.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
July 30th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
why sully a beautiful ballpark with a bunch of appalachian hillbilly meth heads?
as long as nobody keeps showing up to PNC park, that beautiful place will remain untainted.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Trading Grabow is kind of dumb I think unless they get something real good back. Gorzo is done though, getting rid of him and Snell will erase the memories of two promising pitchers who fell apart reaaaal quick.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
yesterday he crucifies the phillies for not giving up the farm for halliday.
today he’s crucifying the giants for giving up prospects.
This post is duffy making up for the incredible wrongness of yesterday’s post.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
you dont care about my fantasy team:
just got an enticing offer:
A Jones
vs
Ludwick, R Soriano (RP) and Nathan (RP)
the guy is in last and building for next year. im in the playoff hunt. helps both of us. the kicker: it’s a keeper league (3 players), and I got Jones in the 12th round, making him majorly valuable.
i also have Choo (13th round), who is basically equal to Jones (with more steals). i will either Keep D Wright (3rd round), Lincecum (7th round), and jones/choo, or Lincecum, Jones, Choo
July 30th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
ROTFLMAO!!!
July 30th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
On Grabow, if someone will give you something of value for a reliever you do it. Performance is too volatile and their relative worth is incredibly overvalued.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
It is fun to go watch a really shitty team. Tickets are cheap. Booze is cheap and the security is lax.
/2003 Tigers’d
//seriously it was fun then as well
July 30th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Social anxiety disorder doesn’t exist
/Duffy
July 30th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
mags…great point. i remember going to pre-lebron cavs games for cheap as fuck, moving way up front and getting a great view.
impossible these days.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
just got an enticing offer:
A Jones
vs
Ludwick, R Soriano (RP) and Nathan (RP)
the guy is in last and building for next year. im in the playoff hunt. helps both of us. the kicker: it’s a keeper league (3 players), and I got Jones in the 12th round, making him majorly valuable.
i also have Choo (13th round), who is basically equal to Jones (with more steals). i will either Keep D Wright (3rd round), Lincecum (7th round), and jones/choo, or Lincecum, Jones, Choo
Why are you here. Go pick up Jim Johnson.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
grabow and gorzelanny traded to cubs! no clue who they are.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
At least the Pirates are making an attempt at rebuilding.
The Nationals are sitting there, content with 32 wins and an abysmal team. Trade Adam Dunn already and at least place a phone call to Strasburg.
That team needs to be relocated. There will never be a team contracted from MLB.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
that’s why marlins games are fun, and they put a decent product out. i paid 60 bucks for world series tickets, lower deck first baseline.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
@spence
Now you are getting it. In 2003 after a rain delay mind you (My Tigers fandome can never be questioned after that) I walked down and sat right behind the dugout. I got to put my feet on it (Hernia’d)!
July 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
It is fun to go watch a really shitty team. Tickets are cheap. Booze is cheap and the security is lax.
/2003 Tigers’d
//seriously it was fun then as well
maggs: same for Marlins since their inception, except for about 15 total games
I have a picture of my son and I at the 2003 World Series sitting right behind home plate. During the 7th inning stretch, the crowd thinned (typical South Florida fans), so we walked down and sat right behind Pudge for the last two innings, like it was a regular season game.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Why are you here. Go pick up Jim Johnson.
Already on it, good lookin out
That team needs to be relocated.
Where to?
July 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
It is fun to go watch a really shitty team. Tickets are cheap. Booze is cheap and the security is lax.
Pre-LeBron Cavs game were more pathetic than a good time. You could get the best seat in the house, but you could hear a pin drop. Many people don’t wanna go watch a product that pimped Ricky Davis and Darius Miles as the face of your franchise, and neither one of them showed up for Cavs pre-season media day. Kids would walk around the Gund on their cell phones treating the place like a Mall rather than a professional sporting event.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
@PLSK – Charlotte? Northern FL? Upstate NY? Some place where the city isn’t completely inhabited by transplants that don’t give a shit about local teams. Everyone in DC that lives there didn’t grow up there.
Too hard to bring a new team there.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Kyle Drabek shrunk today. He is now 5′1″.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Phillies – Giving up a top pitching prospect to get arguably the best pitcher in the game for a team making a run at a World Series
Giants – Giving up a top pitching prospect for a mediocre (at best) second baseman. I have yet to see an argument for how Freddy Sanchez makes the Giants better. Not from Sabean. Not from any analyst.
Oh, he’s a veteran clubhouse presence. Great. The Giants have a whole team of those. They need someone who can hit.
July 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
lol Charlotte is one of the most transplant heavy cities in America, it exploded in the last fifteen years. Oh and they support their teams like shit.
July 30th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
can’t fucking believe I missed all the fun.
for a team to compete in MLB, they need 30 or so legitimate major league ready players in their organization. the Pirates had about 15. so they need to trade 10 of those 15 for 30 prospects, hope half pan out, and draft well to hope they can compete. because they don’t operate in an environment where they can consistently be a winning team. they need to pick their spots. and I think Huntington rightly picked the spot as 2 or 3 years from now. i like the way he’s doing things.
/contract the Pirates
//TBL’d