Eli Manning Signs 6-year, $97 million Deal, Now Makes More Than JaMarcus Russell
1-liner, NFL August 5th. 2009, 11:00am$ Eli Manning $: The Giants’ QB inked a 6-year, $97 million deal this morning according to Chris Mortensen. Eli’s guaranteed $35 million. According to these 2008 salary figures, Manning’s new deal will make him one of the five highest-paid players in the league. Very wise of Manning’s agent to get this done before the season. Why? His starting WRs this year are Steve Smith (the one from USC, not the star in Carolina) and Domenik Hixon. Combined, they have 109 career catches and three TDs. [Wes Welker of the Patriots had 111 catches last season.] Yes, they drafted Nicks and Barden, and 2nd-year pro Mario Manningham should be in the mix, but that is a motley crew with no experience. The defense will be fierce, but the offense could struggle, and we expect Manning to revert back to the much-criticized QB he was the year before New York won the Super Bowl. [ESPN]
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August 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
dumb.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:04 am
I don’t understand this at all.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:07 am
That’s a lot of wasted money when Haynesworth injures his knee while stomping Eli’s head, ending his career.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Don’t forget Spagnuolo is gone now.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Great deal!
/Eagles Fan
August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
The going rate.
Next up, Rivers.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Bwahahahahaha!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:12 am
rivers deserves a deal like this…not eli or big ben.
going rate my ass…you mean that the giants couldn’t draft a guy who’s inaccurate, can’t read defenses and throws too many picks? they just paid $97 mil for one great play in a super bowl.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 am
The going rate for what, the 12th best QB in football is being paid as one of the top five players in the game?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Remove the final 5 games of the 2007 season and Eli is an average QB.
Remove Plax and he’s below average.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
The Giants have always loved Eli — you gotta to have given what they’ve given to get him. BUT let’s not forget that he has a Super Bowl ring (earned against the “Perfect” Patriots).
August 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
60% and 10 INTs last year.
I’m no Eli fan but what were they going to do, let him walk and then draft and groom another guy and wait five years to contend again? Definitely had to do it. They were the favorites last year before Plax went down, remember.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Funny thing, the guy that got him that ring is probably going to be cut soon.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
we expect Manning to revert back to the much-criticized QB he was the year that New York won the Super Bowl.
Seriously, his own GM called him skittish in November 2007, basically 2 months before he was super bowl MVP. He played well in the 2007 playoffs and made that great escape for the Tyree-helmet catch, but nobody really thinks he’s an elite QB.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
so does jeff hostetler. and trent dilfer. and mark rypien.
a super bowl ring doesn’t mean you’re a good QB.
and i won’t bring big ben into this at all, i promise.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
about where id rank him
August 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
So Taguchi has two World Series rings the last three years. I wouldn’t pay him as a top five player in baseball.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
isn’t that smarter than spending a mint on a guy who isn’t very good?
maybe my small market brain is getting in the way, but why pay this much when you can get similar production for a fraction of the cost in the form of another veteran QB pickup?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
He benefits from playaction and one on one matchups more than any qb I have ever seen. But if Big Ben is getting that kind of money, Gomer should get it too. Also, I WISH the Jets had the Giants receiving corps.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Whoa Spencer… what?
The man with the “FLOOOOOOOOAT!” arm deserves a deal like this? Having 75 extra completions to your running back per year helps your stats.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Again, I don’t even like Eli, but … this deal is for 6 years which will take him through the age of 33. Right now I would take only Cutler, Rivers, Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Ben, and Brees through the duration of those years, with Peyton barely making it for the final 2 or 3 years.
So he’s a top 7 or 8 QB, and will be paid as such.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
after the cap is gone, eli will not be even close to being the highest paid player. this is non-news.
so can we say that the eagles will suck now that they have a different coordinator? same scheme, same players. they will be fine. it isn’t like belichick leaving and ray fucking hanley having LT and Banks play read and react.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
uh…yea, considering he was the 3rd best QB last year.
who cares about arm strength? rivers is fucking awesome.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
/fixed?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
a super bowl ring doesn’t mean you’re a good QB.
Obviously not. Like I said before that though, the Giants org has had a huge crush on Eli’s potential since before they drafted him. The SB ring just makes it easier for them to justify the expenditure.
So Taguchi has two World Series rings the last three years.
Different sports. Different positions.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
/Troof
August 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Rarely do I ever take real football advice from Drew and the guys, but the Marmalard is OVER-RATED.
YA BETTA ASK SOMEBODAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:27 am
And Eli was 9th. You can take Warner and Pennington off that list for next season, and before you know it, you’re talking about Eli possibly being a Top 5 QB.
He’s better than you give him credit for.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:27 am
and i won’t bring big ben into this at all, i promise.
As you shouldn’t, as he’s got TWO, including arguably the greatest drive in NFL history, so yeah, leave him out.
I do agree with MikeNYC though, he’s not terrible, he’s entering his prime, and they have no chance of getting anyone better. The money seems high today but in 3 years he wont even be top 10 in salary.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Eli also played brilliantly in that playoff run. his only INT should have been caught by steve smith in the super bowl. not like he played like Dilfer or Brad Johnson, and just didn’t make mistakes.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
seriously? because he’s throwing to such great targets as a gimpy gates and LT, chris fucking chambers (the guy with the worst catch % in the nfl) and vincent jackson?
dude, he puts up ridiculous numbers and he reads a D like nobody’s business. calling rivers overrated is simply dumb.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Exactly.
I would rather having Manning a QB who won a Super Bowl and gets the Giants to the playoffs every year than Rivers a spaz case who benefits from a weak ass division and great players around him.
The notion of bringing in another player to play in NYC is just FUCKING DUMB. Look at the Jets and the Giants, why aren’t there so few great quarterbacks among the franchises? Because it is hard to play in Giants stadium and even harder to manage the NYC fan base. Manning has done both and has earned the money that in 2 years will be looked back on as insignificant and a great way to lock up a franchise player longterm.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Don’t you know Spencer. It’s all about arm strength. Thats why Jeff George had such an amazing career.
/Bear’s overpaid for cutler
August 5th, 2009 at 11:31 am
gotta say it again, the Giants are fucking stupid.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:31 am
perhaps…
but you’re also assuming that none of the young guys who have yet to see the field develop and pass eli.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
id take mcnabb,warner,collins, and romo over him. probably not cutler though. hes just outside top 10. if he sucks this year we can conclude it was all burress.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
It’s just literally the going rate. I agree with Mike. The money is irrelevant, given the amount of coin being thrown at unproven rookies. The Giants make money, so they have this position secured.
I severely dislike the Giants, but they now have their QB locked up. Next year is uncapped, so it’s not even like there’s going to be a salary cap issue down the line.
If you think Eli Manning sucks, then rejoice that the Giants are going to suck (except for that D, that offensive line, and those running backs).
August 5th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Realistically, who deserves such a deal in the NFL besides Tom Brady? I can only think of:
- Adrian Peterson
- Drew Brees
- Philip Rivers
- Julius Peppers
- Larry Fitzgerald
- Andre Johnson
Anyone else?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
great players around rivers? funny…gates and LT would’ve qualified in 2007, but not these last two years. vincent jackson and chambers? great? HAHAHAHA. and that’s not even mentioning their overrated line with mcniel and dielman being shells of what they were in LT’s MVP season.
and i’d take the 2008 giants D over what rivers had to deal with last year.
and AFC > NFC…weak division aside, SD plays indy, pit and NE seemingly every year, so whatever.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
you’d take kerry fucking collins over eli and cutler? wow.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Ok Spencer, I’ll give Phil credit for one thing:
Succeeding with this jackass on the sidelines.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 am
id take mcnabb,warner,collins, and romo over him.
is there another romo that plays QB that i’m not aware of? because you can’t be talking about tony romo as someone that is good at his job
August 5th, 2009 at 11:38 am
DeMarcus Ware
August 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
phil collins
August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 am
id say no on peppers.
joe thomas would deserve that kinda coin, but he’s got a hefty contract as it is…
August 5th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Forgive my ignorance, I know right now next year is uncapped, but should we really be so certain that it stays that way or more likely that it stays that way permanently?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
i think there needs to be a cap. i say one year and that’s it, but that’s nothing but speculation.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
that a lot of money to pay someone to lie on their back all day.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Forgive my ignorance
not such a smart smarty now, are we, Tagooch?
I think there’s going to be a rookie wage scale, so there will be more money to spend on proven veterans, and more performance based rewards, as opposed to franchise destroying cuts (like Mawae from the Jets a few years ago).
Plus, and I probably need Nick P on this one, I’m sure that in an uncapped year, you can convert a lot of your forthcoming roster bonuses to signing bonuses and get them off your subsequent year’s cap.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Weak division aside, how can you throw the weak division aside? The Chargers now play Oakland, QB/talentless Denver and perennial-rebuilders KC twice a year. On paper that is a guaranteed 5-1 which locks up the division every season. I guess it is because your are from Cleveland why you would rather have a QB who has won nothing over one who goes to the playoffs and wins super bowls.
Also AJ Smith is a great GM who keeps San Diego loaded with talent.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
An uncapped year will not be as crazy as some people think. For one a players eligibility to hit free agency turns from 4 years to 6 years. Also any playoff teams from 2009 will only be able to sign as many free agents as they lose and each team will get an additional franchise tag. Big names would not hit the market at all.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
ThatsSoTaguchi: you have a point. the issue is that if it gets to an uncapped year the players union will never go back. the uncapped year may never actually happen though if the owners lock out the players, which is a real possibility.
both the NFLPA and the NFL know a lost season will be a big hit to each party involved so they will probably come to an agreement before the uncapped season happens.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
DeMarcus Ware
Probably right.
joe thomas would deserve that kinda coin, but he’s got a hefty contract as it is…
True, but he’s worth it.
id say no on peppers.
I think that when motivated and not fighting his team, peppers is one of the best defenders in the game.
Of course, add Roethlisberger to the list.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
if they get a cap back after the 2010 season, it will be extremely high compared to now. the players union has to gain some leverage back. the NFL has owned them.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
both the NFLPA and the NFL know a lost season will be a big hit to each party involved so they will probably come to an agreement before the uncapped season happens.
Problem with a room full of smart people is that they all think they’re the smartest and want to prove it. There’s no need to lose a year because there’s plenty of money around. Let’s hope they keep that in mind.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
DeMarcus Ware
Probably right.
The single best player in football, any position. So I’ll probably agree.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Eli doesn’t get sacked much. but whatever.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
bad choice of words.
my point was you can’t fault rivers for not getting his team to a SB when he has to go through a MUCH tougher gauntlet in the playoffs than anything the giants would face.
cute.
no, i’d rather have the QB who’s BETTER. strip away defense, guys around them in the offense and coaching and look at QB’s individually. rivers is smart as fuck and accurate and doesn’t make bad decisions. eli is a retard who doesn’t knwo what the fuck he’s doing. that’s what im basing my arguments on.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
that sounds about right. eli got lucky as shit in the super bowl, had tyree not made that catch people would easily be wondering when the giants were going to draft another QB instead of talking about his new rediculous contract.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I’d rather have Rivers and Merriman over Elisha as well
August 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Really MUCH tougher…? The Giants beat Dallas on the road, the Packers on the frozen Tundra and the undefeated Patriots who everyone and their brother regarded as the best team ever.
Why is Rivers that much better? Because you type in ALL CAPS, ALL THE TIME? You don’t provide any EVIDENCE to back up your ARGUMENT. At least throw out some numbers (which again are inflated due to inferior competition). Saying Rivers is smarter than Eli is just silly, but to say he never makes a bad decision is just insane. If he has a computer chip for a brain, then why haven’t they won more?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
that’s pure garbage, spencer. he is great at calling audibles when reading the defense. don’t let the aw shucks things fool ya. i will admit, dude isn’t the most physically gifted throwing it, hence the ducks he throws, but saying he isn’t smart is a fallacy.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
So I guess with the same competition we can compare QB’s by numbers?
Romo>Elisha
August 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Rivers would not have survived playing in NY.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Eli gets 6 million less gauranteed than Stafford and people are up in arms about the top number? One that so often gets restructed or team has option of cutting the player.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
i never understand why people automatically assume that the giants would have had merrimen. who says they would have had that pick the next year? warner would have probably played all year and the giants would have finished closer to .500 instead.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Sure if that is the conclusion you want to make. However I will say Romo has yet to lead Dallas to a playoff win and Eli comes up big when it matters. Eli is committed to being a NFL QB while Romo is committed to blonde haired poon and qualifying for the US Open.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Sort of like assuming that if they started Warner the whole year they would finish closer to .500. It is what it is. You compare the trade based on what happened. The Chargers turned Eli Manning into another 3 pro bowlers.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
the Giants turned Eli into a Super Bowl champion.
Warner was 5-4. Eli was 1-6. obviously i made an assumption as well. but the giants experienced more success that season with warner than they did eli.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
they haven’t won more for a variety of reasons…last year, the D was terrible. the year before, they beat the colts in indy before losing to the then undefeated patriots. and rivers kept them in that game despite having torn an ACL the week before.
i already threw out numbers…but why would i do any more research if i know all you’ll say is, “inflated because of a weak division.”
and i hardly type in all caps all the time. see? no caps HERE…damnit, almost made it.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Rivers would not have survived playing in NY.
I don’t get this statement. It’s hard to suck and please fans in almost any NFL city – NY is no exception. It may be more difficult to please media/fans in MLB or the NBA, but not the NFL.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Eli is one of the most clutch QB’s in the league. Game on the line, I’d rather have the ball in his hands than Rivers. People keep talking about him needing Plax, but it wasn’t like Plax was catching a rack of TD’s in Pittsburgh. Manning made Plax as much as or more than Plax making Manning.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Eli justified Accorsi’s insight in the last three minutes of that Super Bowl. He saw the kid had what it took to lead his team down the field on a final drive. And you know what? You might laugh, but if I needed to score in the last 2 minutes, I would take him over any other QB, including his bro, and Brady.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
You just proved Spencer’s point. If you were really defending Eli that sentence would have read Eli turned the giants into superbowl champions.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
ny media is brutal. completely different animal.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
eli comes through when it matters? like in the playoffs? i dunno…these numbers are pretty fucking pedestrian.
oh but the big moments!!! he’s had one. it was lucky.
eli may be committed to being an NFL qb but so what? im sure david klingler and david carr and tim couch were all commiteed to being NFL qb’s too. and romo sucks just as bad.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Raw numbers: 65%, 4000 yds, 34 TD, 11 INT, 8.4 ypa. Incredible.
Schedule-adjusted numbers: 3rd best QB in the league last year.
Rivers is insanely good.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
There is only one QB who has led his team on two come from behind drives in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl. Elisha
August 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Wow. I think I need to take a walk and clear my head after this comment.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
so that automatically makes him great in 16 games of a regular season for the next 6 years? okie dokie then.
do you realize how small of a sample size that is? hell, tom brady, you know, a legitimately great QB, has failed late in games. but eli won’t because he had one nice quarter that was aided by one of the flukiest plays ever?
talk about missing the big picture.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I am by no means calling Eli shit, he is a very good quarterback. But you Giants fans sound absolutely insane.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
what i meant is that they benefited from one another. he is a top 10 QB, and the giants locked him up.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
go ahead. those are basically accorsi’s words.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I agree he is definitely top 10. Rivers is top 5
August 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
how’s the kool-aid taste?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
top 10?
jesus…you guys might be right. and that’s less of a compliment than it is a sign of how shitty the QB situation across the NFL is.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Missing the big picture is continuing to refer to the postseason in any sport as a “small sample size”.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
whoa whoa whoa. i can give you a laundry list of games eli has come up huge in. starting with the final game of his rookie year. spencer, he has had a shitload of 4th quarters where he has played flawlessly to lead the giants back to tie or take the lead.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
He is a very good qb. The problem is people making him sound like the worst QB in the world because they make assumptions about his demeanor as opposed to watching his performance.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
spencer, tell me a time where there was really 10 qbs that were just fanfuckingtastic in the league all at once.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
here’s my problem with football outsider’s analysis. QB rankings include sacks, which i agree with. but do they (can they) include an adjustment for the offensive line? (homerism alert)big ben is ranked behind seneca wallace as a QB, partly because he takes a lot of sacks. but his line is ranked 29th against the pass. is that taken into account? how long before someone says he takes too many sacks because he holds the ball too long?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
it IS a small sample size.
great…now play better early on and you won’t have to scramble in the 4th quarter. that’s how GREAT qb’s like peyton and brady get it done. and if brees had a defense worth a shit, he’d probably be there too.
coming up great at the end of games is awesome, don’t get me wrong, but it doesn’t make up for shittiness or skittish play early on.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
montana must have sucked in quarters 1-3, elway too. not saying he played poorly at the start of those games either. in many of them he played great the whole time.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
epic fail old man sportswriter. “What he does is, HE COMES UP IN BIG SPOTS!!!”
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
great…now play better early on and you won’t have to scramble in the 4th quarter.
i saw this response coming a mile away
August 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
mid 80’s…marino, elway, montana, kelly, esiason, kosar, jim mcmahon, simms and probably some others im forgetting.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
add warren moon and randall cunningham to that list too.
of course…but then again, if someone provided an argument why im wrong, id shut up.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
mid 80’s…marino, elway
elway’s who rep was built on 4th qtr comebacks
August 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
mid 80’s…marino, elway
elway’s whole rep was built on 4th qtr comebacks
August 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Mets just broke another player.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I love simms, absolutely love him. but go look at his stats. nothing really that impressive. great super bowl. but for the most part, not much different than eli. teh super bowl year, he threw more INTs than TDs. seriously, mcmahon? if any QB benefited from a great defense, there ya go.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
elway often did…but he was also surrounded by shit until the end of his career when gary zimmerman, shannon sharpe, terrell davis, rod smith, et al came into the picture.
and montana has a much larger sample size of overall greatness than eli.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
I like how Giants fans leave out little minute details like the fact that during Eli’s magical mystery run to the Super Bowl, the following things happened: the Cowboys folded like they were pleated in the second half, especially after Crayton dropped what would’ve been a sure TD, and Favre gifted that game to the Giants. Also, if Eli was so fantastic, how did he manage to lose to the Cowboys twice that season?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
The postseason is THE SEASAON. If it wasn’t, Marty would still be the coach in San Diego. Hell, he’d still be the coach in KC. Forget about it, he’d still be the coach in Cleveland.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
hey…if you guys can consider eli and big ben good QB’s, i can put mcmahon on that list using your logic.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
gotta get there first, which isn’t a given for any organization. hell, the pats were one of the best teams in the NFL last year and they were left out.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
God that drop haunts me
August 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
When you do a great thing in the post season it is memorable, and you deserve praise. But it is not a repeatable skill. It is not something you should be paid for. The best you can do is build a good team and hope for those memorable moments. Elway wasn’t any better when he finally won superbowls, and Manning isn’t any better because he had a big moment.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
so why does he have so many 4th quarter comebacks? seriously. stop your over the top hate of Eli.
nobody leaves anything out. but eli played great in all those games. there is no denying that. he played fucking awesome in the first game of the year against dallas as well. he threw 4 tds, one with a separated shoulder.
fellas, i understand you hate him for being a manning and also for forcing a trade, but just stop. he does have those Eli moments, where he has a shitty game and my hands get thrown up in the air 20 times and the words “what the fuck?” happens. but he is still one of the better qbs in the game.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
He can’t be fantastic because he lost during the regular season. I guess unless your name is Brady, Griese or Morrall, you suck as a QB. Blame him for losing to Dallas twice, but don’t give him credit for beating Dallas in the Playoffs? That’s sweet. Crayton dropped a pass during the game that was a sure TD? Does that mean you want to acknowledge that in spite of how poor he played against Philly last year, Eli would have led the Giants to victory if Hixon caught that pass?
August 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Jeff Hostetler!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
51/75 (68%), 548 yards, 5 TDs, 3 INTs in his two games against DAL in 2007.
In other news, the Giants allowed 45 and 31 points respectively in those two losses.
The world will be a better place once NFL fans begin to realize that individual players — even QBs — do not singularly determine the outcome of games.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
if you guys can consider eli and big ben good QB’s
everyone conviently forgets that the steelers went from 6-10 to 15-1 in Ben’s rookie year. amazing that they got a starting QB and an entirely new defense in one offseason, because it is obvious that the D carried them to 9 extra wins.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
it’s not over the top and i don’t HATE eli…i just don’t think he’s worth that kind of money in any universe. he deserves a romo/garrard contract based on his career so far. now big ben? THAT’S over the top hate.
im just being realistic here…the giants just gave a guy with a low YPA/comp % who throws a lot of int’s and doesn’t get a ton of yards $97 million. that’s a terrible deal. if it was in the romo/garrard range, i’d probably be praising it because it’s what he should get.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
totally agree, which is part of the reason it’s silly to act like “Eli Manning won a Superbowl” or “Big Ben won a Superbowl.”
August 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
elway was a great qb regardless of the super bowl wins.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Jeff Hostetler!
BOOOOOO
August 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
bad example…big ben threw the ball like 10x per game that year.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
This was kind of my point. If Eli gets credit for the post season wins, he wears the blame for the regular season losses, but he shouldn’t get credit or blame for either. It’s a team game. Moving on from that, there several QBs I’d take instead of Eli right now. He’s in the top ten, but at the bottom of it.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
spencer, he will be below market value after next year. it is a great deal.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
what QB’s are going to have their contracts renegotiated? pretty much all of them are set through the uncapped year already. and you’re assuming they stay without a cap and that eli makes the improvements we’ve been waiting for since his 2nd year.
and even if it’s below market value, it’s still not a GREAT deal.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
bad example…big ben threw the ball like 10x per game that year.
averaged 21 passes per game. he was terrible in the playoffs, but had a great regular season
bad example…big ben threw the ball like 10x per game that year.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
i’m an idiot
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/gamelog?playerId=5536&sYear=2004
August 5th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
next year there will be some. especially when their agents tell them they deserve more than eli.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Quite good, thanks. And if the Giants manage to win another SB in the coming years, it’ll be even better.
I hope the comment continues to confuse you.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
i’m sure it will taste pretty good, but if i had money on a game where my team was down, i sure wouldn’t pick eli to be my QB. give me peyton or brady first. eli would not be my first pick.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
I’ve disagreed with your mindset before, Mike. But, man, have you lost your mind?
Brees
P. Manning
Brady
Rivers
Pennington
Cutler
Palmer
Romo(yes, him)
Warner
Rothe.ahem.berger
QB Atlanta
McNabb
Aaron Rodgers
Even if you take Palmer(injury), Warner, and Pennington(age) off the list, he’s still not top 5. Maybe top ten…