Time to Expend a lot of Energy: Simultaneously Previewing Penn State and Ohio State
College Football, Video August 11th. 2009, 2:00pm
Figured this way would be easiest – they’re the best teams in the Big 10 this year, they play in a game (Nov. 7!) that should decide who represents the league in the BCS, both return agile, talented QBs, and both have occasionally insufferable fanbases. The better team? We give a slight edge to Penn State, mostly because of a laughable schedule and also because it hosts the Buckeyes.
Offensive Advantage: Daryl Clark and Evan Royster are probably one of the top returning QB-RB combos in the country. Clark’s WR options are new, and the o-line has three new starters, but the Nittany Lions should still be among the best offenses in the Big 10. You know we heart OSU’s Terrelle Pryor, so there’s no need to wax rhapsodic about his ever-improving skills. But he’s got a new backfield and new WRs. We do like the little we saw from Dan Herron, but how will he fair against 8-man fronts, which is what opposing teams will do until Pryor has proven to be dangerous with his arm? Slight Edge: Penn State.
Coaching: The guy born during the Great Depression, or the guy who never met a sweater vest he didn’t like? Joe Paterno has only lost two league home games in the last four years (2007 to No. 1 Ohio State, 2006 to No. 5 Michigan). Jim Tressel has lost his last three bowl games, but is 29-3 in league play in the last three years (losses: PSU in 2008, Illinois in 2007, PSU in 2005). Edge in this game: Penn State.
Cheerleaders: Judging on the many photos of cheerleaders all over the web … push. But we can all agree that the SEC cheerleaders are far more impressive.
Better Asshole Fan Video: No contest here.
Better Fight Song: Neither of these fight songs is likely to ring a bell with anyone outside of PA or Ohio. Here’s Penn State’s. Here’s Ohio State’s. Michigan and Notre Dame have much stronger, more memorable songs. We’ll give the slight edge to Ohio State, although even if you put a gun to our head, we couldn’t come up with a reason.
Defensive Advantage: Even though Ohio State had four defenders drafted in the first three rounds in April, Penn State has more issues. The Nittany Lions might have the best defensive player on the two teams – DT Jared Odrick (Kiper had him as the 5th best junior DT in the country), but they only return three starters from last year’s unit. The entire secondary has been overhauled. It’s a good thing the QBs in the Big 10 are horrible. Defensively, the Buckeyes have to replace their linebackers, but three of four starters on the line return, and three of four starters in the secondary are back. The Buckeyes defense should keep the Nov. 7 game close … close enough for Terrelle Pryor to win it.
Cooler College Town: We’ve never been to either, so this will be entirely based upon reaction from friends who have. Survey says … Happy Valley, and it’s not even close.
Schedule: Penn State should be derided for such a joke of a schedule. Out-of-conference games: Akron, Syracuse, Temple, Eastern Illinois. Combined record last year: 18-30. The Nittany Lions should be unbeaten heading into the Nov. 7 game. The only reason Ohio State wouldn’t be unbeaten as well is because the Buckeyes host USC Sept. 12.
The guess: Penn State beats Ohio State on Nov. 7, and goes to a BCS game.
If the National title game will pit Florida and Texas/Oklahoma, then the Rose Bowl will feature a rematch between Penn State and USC.
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
It doesn’t matter what Ohio State does this year. Next year is the year they will look to as the year they return to the BCS title game. Pryor is going to be a badass next year.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
and much shittier, less memorable teams.
good preview…can’t really argue with that, but i think the bucks win.
biggest knock against PSU? loss of their beastly OL…that’s HUGE, and OSU’s front 7 is going to be hell on wheels this year. that’s something to watch.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
So Oregon gets it’s own post, but two historic college franchises have to share one?
I realize the Big 10 sucks these past couple years, but this is just down right disrespectful.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
haha, went to high school with the cheerleader from OSU in that photo
August 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Oh, and that pathetic Penn State schedule should embarrass every PSU fan. I know they man up and play Bama next year, but that does not excuse this year’s abortion of a schedule.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Better Asshole Fan Video: No contest here
bunch of tools
August 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
wwaaaaaaahhhhhhh
and … go. some people here probably want to add her as a facebook friend
August 11th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I’m insulted to even be compared to an OSU fan. PSU fans are classy, respectful, well read, and have all their teeth, the same cannot be said of OSU.
Born and raised just outside State College, spent 3 years in Columbus, while Columbus is a decent town, it aint close.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
they’re the best teams in the Big 10 this year
Laughable
/sconnie homer’d
August 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
yea…an OSU fan would never throw a piss filled water balloon at the opposing team’s band or anything.
white out’s are gay.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Way to actually read the story, the ass hole was a PITT student in town for the weekend.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
After Regis Benn from Illinois, who will be the top WR in the Big 10 this year?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Have to judge by the dance squads, and their tight ass pants.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
The only remote defense they have is that, when the Syracuse home/home was scheduled, Syracuse had reeled off 3 straight 10 win
August 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
The guy born during the Great Depression, or the guy who never met a sweater vest he didn’t like?
How the hell can you give Paterno the edge when he doesn’t even coach? If you don’t wear a head set, you do not coach. Paterno is way past his time and is a barnd name and that’s it. Not a coach.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
*seasons (forgot the last word)
August 11th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
devier posey, soph from osu.
BOOK IT.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Um you do realize Penn State kids were throwing things at them too right? The Pitt kid was the BIGGEST ass hole, not the only one.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I highly doubt OSU fans would be coherent enough to tie a water balloon let alone a piss filled one.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
You should really count Sean Lee as a returning defensive starter for the Lions, which makes 4.
my thoughts: Pryor spends this year being more of a dropback passer, and will occassionally ignore his instincts to run and stay in the pocket and forgo some potential big plays. it will appear that he’s less effective, but really he’s using this as a learning year. in 2010 he’ll be unstoppable.
I worry about Penn State’s o-line, that unit is going to cost them a game at some point this year. i think the secondary will be better, the starters last year were entrenched, and even though they weren’t a good unit, there was no way any of this year’s starters had a chance to start.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
and … go. some people here probably want to add her as a facebook friend
yea, her name’s Allison, went to high school in the Akron area. That’s all the info you sick bastards are getting
August 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
iowa wins the big 10.
really.
would love to see joepa win again, but one only needs to look at georgia last year. stocked team execept for offensive line. result? capital one bowl.
same thing happens to penn state. capital one bowl.
doesn’t matter how good the quarterback or tailback is. if you can’t block, you can’t do shit offensively. it all starts up front, especially in that conference.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
you’re right. all the PSU fans condemned the beer thrower. nobody else threw beers, at all. just that one guy.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
As a Buckeye alum and Penn State season ticket holder, I love the combo preview. Without a doubt, PSU is the better town to visit for a couple of reasons. Superior aesthetic value and the tailgating. It’s hard to top OSU for tailgating, but because the majority of seats are filled by out of towners, they come loaded for bear. One aspect of tailgating that can’t be overlooked is that at tOSU, we can only see so much of the scene due to flat land and buildings blocked the scape. At PSU, you can see the sea of RVs due to the hills and fields surrounding Beaver Stadium.
That being said, I hate the annual meeting even though I’ve never missed one, refer to “We” no matter who is doing what, and either way, I’m smoked on Yuengling Lager well before kick-off.
My tailgate at Beaver is a few parking rows from where the pregame buses roll up, so feel free to stop by and use “TBL” as your password for a Jager Bomb.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
and psu fans should thank their embarassing schedule…it’s the only thing keeping them from their otherwise inevitable slide back to 9-4 because they suck and can’t recruit like the big boys.
/fuck kevin newsome
August 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
/looks up from chugging pepper spray from the hose
sorry, could you repeat that?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Columbus is a city, not a college town. Can’t really compare them.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Not quite true – Ogbu and Odrick return up front, and the entire LB corps is back, plus Sean Lee returns after redshirting with his ACL injury last year (which happended in Spring ‘08). The secondary isn’t entirely new either, as AJ Wallace has started various games before and Timmons played a lot last year as well. Both safeties and DE’s will essentially be new. Rumor is Jack Crawford is an absoluted stud at DE though (could quickly exceed what Maybin did – Crawford is faster).
August 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
agreed. you can’t coach without a headset.
/bear bryant
/vince lombardi
/tom landry
/paul brown
August 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Sparty. Paging Sparty to the comments thread. Gonna need you here for this one buddy.
Greg Jones will eat your children.
And Iowa is going into Happy Valley and winning. Then… going to the Horseshoe and getting fucking pummeled by 30.
@Jimmy – I’m your new biggest fan.
/Iowa Alum’d
August 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I’ve seen worse at OSU games, besides, I know where that took place, it was in the back yard of a frat, stupid drunken frat boys are ass holes, I dont defend them.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
The Pitt kid was the BIGGEST ass hole, not the only one
probably from Bethel Park. bunch of punks
August 11th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
That Posey dude was a stud recruit. If he pans out that WR class could be ridiculous with AJ Green and Julio Jones ranked just above him.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
howabout you can’t coach if you’re fucking senile? or if you’re on the shitter halfway through the 2nd quarter? if you’re in the coach’s box?
paterno is a relic. and jay paterno is still there, right? yikes.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
And I’m telling you TBL… You can call me a homer all you want, the rest of the B10, other than Madison, has nothing on Iowa City when it comes to college town.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
If it wasn’t 30 degrees with whipping winds we would have pounded your sorry ass last year, you got it coming this year.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Love that the white out game this year is when Iowa rolls into State College. After last year, this was a no doubter.
Every school has douchebag fans, except for Michigan, who don’t seem to really give too much of a shit.
/Wisconsin fans are the biggest tools though.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
he should’ve played more last year but was buried behind brian fucking hartline for some stupid reason.
and as much as i love posey, he’s still a BIG notch below those two.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
This is a fucking joke, right?? What in that video above says classy and respectful? Fuckin’ toolbags are lucky buddy in the OSU jersey didn’t come back from his car with a shotgun.
/hate all big 10 fans
August 11th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Rex – where you been? Our tailgate isn’t too far from yours (same lot, but we’re at the base of the SE ramp of the BJC).
August 11th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
We’ve never been to either, so this will be entirely based upon reaction from friends who have. Survey says … Happy Valley, and it’s not even close.
Just because you feel like you have to dodge AIDS infected syringes walking down High St. in Columbus, doesn’t mean it’s not a great place to party. Oh and you think that video of the asshole Penn State kids is bad…..come to the horseshoe when Michigan comes to down
August 11th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
i’ll give you that one.
whenever i read shit from someone that claims you can’t coach without a headset i don’t know whether to laugh or cry because it’s such an idiotic statement.
if that premise is true (ha), someone should have taken dave wannstedt’s headset away years ago.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
If Iowa holds the second best Big 10 college town than that is just one more thing the SEC has that’s better. Though I have heard that Madison is a crazy fun town.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
This is a fucking joke, right?? What in that video above says classy and respectful? Fuckin’ toolbags are lucky buddy in the OSU jersey didn’t come back from his car with a shotgun.
/hate all big 10 fans
is this a public service to big 10 fans so we know the classy reaction to something to which we disagree?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
You can call me a homer all you want, the rest of the B10, other than Madison, has nothing on Iowa City when it comes to college town.
/Truth’d.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I can’t find it Spencer, but my fave JoePa comment from you this year was, “He can’t be the best coach if he’s goddamn senile and he lets his players go around beating the fuck out of random people.”
That about sums it up.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Is he a speed guy?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
jeff bowden with glasses.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
all fans can be Douchey McDouchein Fucks.
fuck yeah.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
yea, with size. worked out with ocho cinco (he’s from cincy) in HS too on route running and so forth.
but tressel likes WR’s who can block and that’s the reason he didn’t play more last year (i shit you not…regardless of how dumb that sounds).
August 11th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
come on man, it wasn’t that bad. i just graduated from there a couple years ago.
agree with you here though. it makes me sick. when i would travel to other big ten towns decked out in OSU gear we were always welcomed by a lot of nice people, doesn’t happen in OSU, especially michigan weekend.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
agreed. you can’t coach without a headset.
/bear bryant
/vince lombardi
/tom landry
/paul brown
Point is Paterno has no idea what is going on and hasn’t coached in years. He gives a little halftime pep talk from info he gets from his assistants and tries to stay relavant in a game that’s passed him by. and please don’t bring up names of coaches from 30-50 years ago who didn’t wear headsets. it’s a whole new game in 2009 my friend
August 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Except for all the racism and douchebags, sure.
Don’t knock it til you try it GotG.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I don’t know much about Big 10 fans when it comes to being nice, but I do know that 70% of SEC fans are total d-bags on gamedays. I would always be so embarrassed by UGA fans after any home loss. Total idiots.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
There’s always Minnesota to…to…
ah hell. all we’re good for it to beat for an easy win.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
jeff bowden with glasses.
except Jay Paterno has developed Michael Robinson and DC, and jeff bowden developed chris rix.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Roeth, I’ve been spending more time on the water this year, and less time in front of the computer, although that’s quickly changing with a new web startup. I don’t know how many games I’ll make it over to this year due to the shit schedule, but will be there for tOSU and Iowa. Now that I can email pdf tickets up until right before kickoff, I tend to give away more games to PA friends than I used to. 6.5 hour drive to go watch the starters pound Akron for a quarter tends to get trumped by only going 1.5 hours to Columbus to watch the Buckeye starters wail on Army.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamublance is coming for you Coop.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I’m from Nebraska. IOWA is just a short way of saying Idiots Out Wandering Around. The state is more boring than Nebraska, and that says a ton.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
true story: when rix was a freshman i honest to god thought he’d be the next chris weinke. as a freshman, dude had loads of promise and played pretty well… for a freshman.
dude got worse each year. absolutely regressed every season. a short-haired pointer had more of an idea of how to run an offense than rix did when he graduated.
did jaypa develop michael robinson or did galen hall?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
never been to iowa, but if it is anything like that kick-ass iowa bar at wrigleyville, then yeah, im sure it lives up to the hype.
i believe it’s called barleycorn – easily my top spot in wrigleyville. best talent, rowdiest crowd.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
This sounds alot like wishful thinking. Ultimately, I think he’ll do what he thinks he has to do to make plays. That could be good or bad, depending on your opinion of his decision making.
Pryor has flashed a ton of skill, but he has a ways to go to fulfill his potential. As a PSU alum, I’m very interested to see how he develops since he jilted JoePa.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
come on man, it wasn’t that bad. i just graduated from there a couple years ago.
yea, that was a joke. It’s just that columbus is in the city and the campus isn’t the cleanest place around. Diesel made a good point earlier about how you really can’t compare OSU to other big ten schools because it is located in a major city. Oh and if ya wanna party like a horny 19 year old and do keg stands than go to Happy Valley, wanna hit up the bar scene go the Columbus
August 11th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
sparty’s out sick today and I’ve been dubbed his representative for the day. he would like to say that he agrees that the Big 10 sux donkey ballz this year…and every year for that matter.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
i don’t agree with that at all.
what i will agree on is that he’s stuck in his ways. i don’t think the fundamentals of the game have passed him by one bit. the game may have as in the style of play, but not the basics.
at least old man bowden (who does not coach and even admits it; he’s truly a figurehead) adapted to the style of the game. paterno really never has since the mid-1990s.
oh, but old man bowden wears a headset…
August 11th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
columbus is in the city
Huh? don’t know what i was trying to say there. Try to keep up with me, sorry
August 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
This sounds alot like wishful thinking.
its actually a nightmare. he’ll have fewer highlight reel plays because he’ll be running less. 2010, he’ll still have all the skills and a MUCH better idea as to what he’s doing and when to pick his spots to run. he will absolutley murder the big ten.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I find myself drinking the Pryor kool-aid. I think this year he will learn what it takes to lead a team from week one on and next year, as a junior, he will take over and just dominate. Of course if all of the talk about him looking great as a passer turns out to be bull shit (and it very well could be) this will be moot, but I think Ohio State is poised to make a run at a title next season.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
michigan state rules!
August 11th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Jimmy, man…c’mon, if you can’t admit that Paterno is strictly a figurehead for State Penn, than you’re as senile as the old man.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Barleycorn is definitely great for talent. Merkle’s is the best place to watch a game in Wrigleyville. Owned by Iowa and ILL alums.
C’mon. You can do better than that. Haven’t heard that like a thousand times or anything. I’ve been to Memorial Stadium. I liked it. Louder and bigger than Kinnick.
But the tailgates have nothing on Iowa City, nor does Lincoln have 48 bars in a three block radius. Plus, when we win, we’ve got the best victory song.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
paterno really never has since the mid-1990s.
you know they’ve been running the spread offense with Robinson and DC, right? he runs whatever system is appropriate for what he has to play with. as was mentioned in a different thread, let’s see how smart urban meyer is when he doesn’t have a once in a lifetime player under center.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
pryor is going to CRUSH people this year.
watch some of his highlights from last year…the kid was 19 years old and doing shit like that with no experience and an absolutely AWFUL offensive line.
he’s going to be SCARY.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Here’s a question for Ohio State fans: Would you rather beat Penn State or USC this year?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
trust me, i am no urban meyer fan. but i do recall meyer winning with some guy named “chris leak”
August 11th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
USC.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
This made me laugh.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
“chris leak”
you mean the kid who was the top recruit in the country coming out of high school. and there was a heavy dose of tebow that year, too
August 11th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Agreed. It’s catchy.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Not an OSU fan, but that has to be easy. USC is at home, Penn St is on the road. Take the home win against the better team.
Losing on the road doesn’t count against you as much.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
You’re not alone in this.
Of course he plans to be a better pocket passer. Then again, everyone has a plan until they get hit a few times. We shall see.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
wow…what a trooper. to think, urban meyer winning a national championship with the no. 1 overall recruit, chris leak. man…he should’ve gotten TWO trophies for that.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
high street has been completely revamped over the last 5+ years, especially the chittenden/gateway area. it’s pretty nice now. if you go a little north you still get the old feel of the dive bars and you have your newer area with some nice bars too..
August 11th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Here’s a question for Ohio State fans: Would you rather beat Penn State or USC this year?
USC.
that would be pretty huge for the conference reputation in general
August 11th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
I think Lincoln is a dump actually. I went back there in ‘07 for a game and the town was just kind of meh. They have some bars, but if you want to talk bars in close proximity to the campus/stadium you need to hit up Athens for a UGA game. Nebraska has worked on the size of their stadium (I think it is up to 85,000) but I don’t think it is anywhere near as loud as other venues. The fan base at Nebraska is an old, conservative group who simply don’t get roudy. While this makes them the best fans to deal with as an opponent, it does not always make playing in Lincoln that tough. Back when NEB was whooping ass every year the home-field seemed much more menacing. That has not been the case the past 8 years.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
when that old fart was on the sidelines, he was in people’s faces all the time chewing ass, especially if a quarterback fucked up. that’s not a figurehead to me.
now old man bowden, yeah. again, he admits he doesn’t coach. dude stands 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage so he doesn’t get hit (like paterno did).
oh, but he wears a headset…
August 11th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
You guys got it all wrong on Paterno. He does wear a headset and there’s noise coming out of it. But it’s not Penn State coaches. It’s Glenn Miller’s “Chattanooga ChooChoo,” taking JoePa back to his 40th birthday in 1941.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Here’s a question for Ohio State fans: Would you rather beat Penn State or USC this year?
Michigan
August 11th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
barleycorn during the day for football is great, at night douchebag central.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I’ll definitely be rooting for osu when they play usc
August 11th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I was hoping for someone actually dancing. I watched the whole thing too.
Taking corn jokes and being an Iowa alum is like being Colin on “Whose Line” and taking bald jokes. You’ve heard them all before but the fresh ones are always nice to hear.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
In years gone by, this question would be met with a response of “Michigan”. But I’d take a win over USC. We hear enough that Big TelEveN schools can only beat each other, so big, out of conference games are where it’s at.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
My favorite JoePa moment was when he got the shits during that one game and ran off the sidelines.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
no doubt Spence. USC hands down
August 11th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Funny story about Nebraska fans compared to SEC (this case UGA fans). My brother and I went to the Kansas St – Neb game when they beat KSU 77-39. As we are walking back we see a group of KSU fans talking nicely with NEB fans. I said that if I was at a UGA game and they had beaten a rival that badly, the shit talking you would hear would be epic. As I say this a car pulls around the corner filled with KSU fans and one screams “Nebraska sucks dick” and peels out. The Neb fans were so upset at the vulgarity and then the KSU fans apologized. My brother and I start laughing thinking that would be the most tame diatribe in Athens.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
My favorite JoePa moment was when he got the shits during that one game and ran off the sidelines.
i know this hilarious for everyone because joepa is so old and old people where depends and why wasn’t he wearing depends, but ultimately it was a person with the flu had diarrhea. not really that uncommon.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
and the only reason i say i’d rather the bucks beat usc is because they’re GOING TO beat PSU.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Bowden is so good at [fingerquote]coaching[/fingerquote] that he does sideline interviews during plays.
/bitter about bowden’s 1AA wins counting towards his D1 record.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
smith to robo september 23rd, 2006. What an awesome play that was!
August 11th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I think USC would trump a conference win against the only team that could threaten OSU in the B10. That is how badly the conference needs a big OOC win at the moment.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
all i know is that woody hayes would’ve shit himself and kept coaching like nothing happened…because that’s what REAL legends do.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
That’s a good one. I actually never thought of a diaper joke. It was funny to watch him haul balls with his hand on his ass. What I do know is that I don’t shit myself when I get the flu.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
i like that story, gods. true story about miami: i went to penn state miami in 1999, when penn state hit like an 85 yarder TD with a minute left, and on the way to the car outside the Orange Bowl multiple people threatened to stab us.
/little havana was scary
August 11th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
No doubt USC… I was in the Coliseum last year at the 50 and it was horrible. We need a win like this badly.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
What I do know is that I don’t shit myself when I get the flu.
the sentence structure implies that there are times when you do shit yourself.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
youngstown, i was sitting between the goal posts for that play. unbelievable to watch it unfold. a friend of mine is on the tOSU football staff and gave me a copy of their internal season highlights DVD. there are 9 camera angles of that one play.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
The truest thing I’ve read on the internet today.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
JoePa doesn’t like to be called JoePa. You PSU people should know that.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
and the only reason i say i’d rather the bucks beat usc is because they’re GOING TO beat PSU.
agreed 1,000,000%
August 11th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
If you had told me that story and redacted the schools I could have guessed Miami was the culprit. I think they might win the biggest D-bag fan base. Just look at in the crowd during games and you’ll see some serious douchebaggery.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
/cthomashowell
August 11th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
i like that story, gods. true story about miami: i went to penn state miami in 1999, when penn state hit like an 85 yarder TD with a minute left, and on the way to the car outside the Orange Bowl multiple people threatened to stab us
Yikes. Isn’t the Orange Bowl located in some of Miami’s roughest areas? Don’t know if its true, heard it was in the hood.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
If you had told me that story and redacted the schools I could have
funny…i see literally 1/3 the miami fans i used to now that they sucks ass.
and michigan fans are the biggest dbags. anyone who chants, “that’s all right, that’s ok, you’ll be working for us someday,” ranks high on the dbag chart.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
miami fans are without question the biggest dirtbags in college football.
all 26,000 of them.
if they never played penn state or florida state, they’d never sell out that rust bucket called the orange dump. thank got it has been razed. every time i went there i felt like i needed a tetanus shot.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
did hayes shit in his pants before or after charlie bauman grabbed him by the neck?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
They seriously chant that? Wow. Duffy must be proud.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
and michigan fans are the biggest dbags. anyone who chants, “that’s all right, that’s ok, you’ll be working for us someday,” ranks high on the dbag chart.
Good luck finding work in Michigan, let alone working for yourself
August 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
true. during the 1999 championship game against virginia tech, he’s doing an interview with lynn swann and in the background you see weinke throwing a touchdown pass!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
/cthomashowell
i deserve that. i neglected to add the /zing tag.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
miami fans are without question the biggest dirtbags in college football
says the Florida State fan. go berate ESPN some more Jim
August 11th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
@rex
i was looking over the goal posts my seats were so bad. i think i was in 36B (?) i want to say. 2nd row from the top, behind troy smith though so i could watch the whole play unfold. everyone was going crazy.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
during…now THAT’S the focus of a true champion.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
if they never played penn state or florida state, they’d never sell out that rust bucket called the orange dump. thank got it has been razed. every time i went there i felt like i needed a tetanus shot
a lot of hate Jim
August 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
@ youngstown and spencer,
one of you needs to change avatars, you’re confusing me.
/penn state education’d
//beat you to it
August 11th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I think they might win the biggest D-bag fan base. Just look at in the crowd during games and you’ll see some serious douchebaggery
rough crowd. I guess you have never been to Athens GA or been to Auburn
August 11th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I figured ganging up on Miami would get Irish to comment.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
do we have the same one? i can’t tell…work blocks 99% of them.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
very similar
August 11th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Agree Bowden, JoePa, and many others are figureheads to an extent these days.
But, let’s not forget how much coaching is done away from the sideline that can be much more important in the college game.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
miami as a sports town is a joke. and the orange bowl was literally a rust bucket.
but it’s difficult for me to sympathize with canefan. they had some of the greatest teams in college football history but if not for penn state, florida state or florida, rarely was that dump of a stadium ever sold out.
one time i was there and this dude in front of me was smoking a blunt like it was no big deal. another time this huge cuban dude kept hitting me in the head every time penn state made a first down. i didn’t dare do anything.
i’ve never feared for my life at a football game except for a couple at the orange bowl. you literally put your life in jeopardy there.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
They both look overrated to me..
August 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
can’t say i have but i’ve been to a couple of georgia games (outback bowl) and one auburn game (cap one bowl) but didn’t ever think i’d get knifed or punched.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Agree Bowden, JoePa, and many others are figureheads to an extent these days.
But, let’s not forget how much coaching is done away from the sideline that can be much more important in the college game.
Paterno hurt his knee last year demonstrating the proper way to perform an on-side kick. doesn’t sound like a figurehead to me
August 11th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
isn’t spencer’s Titleist?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Leaving a game in Athens or Auburn = fear of getting pinched for DUI
Leaving a game in Miami = fear of getting shanked by gang members.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
can be? is!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
uh…no.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
False. I am not a dbag. I’ve never heard that chant. And how would one chant it? It’s too many words and the syllables would be all effed up.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
i didn’t dare do anything.
well that’s probably why the dude kept hitting you in the head. sticking up for yourself goes a long way.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Maybe Miami fans aren’t so bad afterall.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Leaving a game in Miami = fear of getting shanked by gang members
scared little boys
August 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
i went to the arkansas-auburn game last year and from what i could tell as long as you weren’t a bammer fan they were fine with it. i had people offering me shots after the game, and arkansas won.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I hate Miami as well, but it sounds like the WNBA may be your best bet if you want to attend a live sporting event..
August 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
no…i have a couple friends who are michigan fans/alum and they’re cool enough.
and you seriously have never heard that chant?
that’s all right.
that’s ok.
you’re gonna work for us someday.
something like that…but then again, what do i know? i can only spell out my state because it’s so easy. but i do have to write it on my hand so i don’t fuck it up.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Be careful, Spencer. He hasn’t done anything….. yet.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Call me scared all day but if I go to a college football game the last thing on my mind should be getting stabbed.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
LOL!!! no thanks!
don’t “hate” miami, just hated the orange bowl and the scum that crawled out of the woodwork to go to games there… in general.
i’ve been to quite a few college games but going there, wow, it was like a war zone.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I hate Miami as well, but it sounds like the WNBA may be your best bet if you want to attend a live sporting event..
haha nice Matt Ryan. That’s what pisses me off about the video this post about the asshole Penn State kids throwing shit at the OSU fan. He let that little jonas brother looking asshole smash that balloon in his face and didn’t do a damn thing. People are so feeble. I would’ve curb stomped that shit head
August 11th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I see you’ve never worn Steelers gear to a Browns game, luckily my brother and I are pretty big guys.
It sucks that this turned into a who’s got worse fans thread. Anywhere you go there are drunk ass holes, but 95% of college fans are good people, very nice, and happy to share a burger or beer with fans of the other team.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I think they call this “natural selection”. When you’re the only guy in a red jersey and there’s 5,000 people wearing white, you live to fight another day by just walking away.
You curb stomp one of them, you probably end up in the hospital where the only thing hurt isn’t your pride. Then again, it probably is.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
he’s done more than vince young and tim tebow when those two were his age.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
been in the pound with a Bettis jersey on years ago…not a fun experience and i didn’t make it the whole game in those same seats
August 11th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Tebow was integral as a change of pace guy on a title team his freshman year.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
don’t “hate” miami, just hated the orange bowl and the scum that crawled out of the woodwork to go to games there… in general
you should see the scum that crawls out of Tallahassee. trash. Doak Campbell is filled with losers. they dont call it Fuck State for nothing
August 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
my grandfather’s been a ticketholder since the 50’s…our family’s season tix are right next to the dawg pound…
only 12 fights that i saw last year…things seem to be calming down.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Tim Tebow won a national title at his age.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Either of you guys want to take a stab (pun alert!!) at who wins the Miami-Free Shoe game?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
and pryor was a full time starter after the 2nd week. last time i checked…full time starter > change of pace QB.
and tebow didn’t win an NC, florida did.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
and tebow didn’t win an NC, florida did
Erroneous!!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
been in the pound with a Bettis jersey on years ago…not a fun experience and i didn’t make it the whole game in those same seats
Yeaaaa, not a good idea my man. I wouldn’t recommend doing that again. You literally cannot wear a steelers jersey in the lot tailgating before a Browns game. You are guaranteed to get into some kind of altercation every time. We are a jealous and pissed fan base
August 11th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
youngstown, we didn’t talk too much smack, kept it friendly with people in the seats, but I had to suck it up and ignore quite a few pushes/shoulder checks/trash throwing when walking around. Pro fans are fucking retarded, and that certainly includes many a Stiller fan.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
miami
August 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
The thing is, if the Buckeyes beat PSU, then we can talk trash to Lion fans and piss them off. If we beat USC and try talking trash, will USC fans even know that their team lost?
August 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
i’m a steelers fan, my brother is a browns fan. he gave me those seats and i wasn’t positive where they were located. i leave the pound after the 1st quarter after getting shoved and spit on most of the time. i meet him in the stadium pissed off and he’s laughing his ass off.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Obviously it was a team accomplishment, but if tebow is not on that team they don’t win the title. He was their entire running game that year.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
my grandfather’s been a ticketholder since the 50’s…our family’s season tix are right next to the dawg pound…
Back at the old stadium when the rivalry was still relevant, AA batteries used to be passed around in the pound when steelers came to town. Nothing in professional american sports will compare to what the pound was like in the 80’s.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
agreed
August 11th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Very good point. USC fans will forget they play football if they go three years without a BCS game. Total front runners (cough…Will Ferrel..cough).
August 11th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
At this point, Vince Young couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time. Sophomore year (specifically the second half of sophomore year) was when he blossomed. Pryor was thrown to the wolves 3 games into his true freshman year.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Either of you guys want to take a stab (pun alert!!) at who wins the Miami-Free Shoe game
nice. they beat us last year, 41-39. first game of the year against Free Shoes U(on ESPN of course) at Doak Campbell filled with losers. Christy Ponder is good.
Miami will win
/homer’d
August 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Last I checked, the whole team gets rings, even the b/u or change of pace QB. Pryor doesn’t have one of those. Isn’t football the “ultimate team sport”?
Maybe if the Senator would have left his senior QB in who had led the team to a Natl Title appearance the year before, the Bucks would have gotten to the title game again.
Winning > Showcasing your prize recruit
/that’s all speculation of course.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
VY redshirted as well, i believe.
i remember going to the last game at municipal stadium…there was a shirtless guy next to me and my grandpa, sobbing and throwing dog treats on the field. and i can’t forget how devastated the dude was and that’s when i realized i could never root for another NFL team.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Winning > Showcasing your prize recruit
Ohio State didn’t stand a chance in that USC game without Beanie. and sweater vest knew that they needed to go undefeated to get to the NC after the previous 2 years, so he made the right call to start the Pryor era
August 11th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
/fixed
August 11th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
LOL sure, it’s in the panhandle, whaddya expect?
i just gawk at the chicks. i’m not into staring at the mullets.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
you’re joking, right?
please…tell me you’re kidding because if you’re REALLY advocating that tressel had kept in boeckman over pryor, i…i think i’ll have to petition TBL to see if we can get you banned. do you have ANY idea how bad boeckman was? at all? he was TERRIBLE.
and after getting waxed by USC, there was no title hopes. why not start the rebuilding effort.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I hope that is a joke. I’m guessing you didn’t watch the Ohio U. or USC games when Boekman shit all overhimself
August 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
true. rarely does fsu beat miami unless miami melts down.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
that’s when i realized i could never root for another NFL team.
and as a Browns fan you still don’t root for a NFL team
/roasted
//Pirates fan. contract them.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Nah, never heard it. I’ll have to google it or something. Also never been to The Big House.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
sigh…
yea.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Beockman was one of the worst quarterbacks to ever put on scarlet and grey
August 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Probably Spencer. Probably.
But let me ask you then… why didn’t Meyer start Tebow over Leak his senior year? Leak didn’t have a great arm nor was he a scrambler. But he knew the offense and was a poised QB not learning on the job like Tebow would have been.
It worked against OSU (without Ted Ginn, yes).
The answer is probably because Urban Meyer is a better coach and built his offense around Leak with spikes of Tebow at the right time.
He led your team to it’s last national title appearance, did he not?
/we’re having this argument
August 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
zwick was pretty bad..
August 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
LOL sure, it’s in the panhandle, whaddya expect?
see. What do you expect coming down to Little Havana wearing Florida State gear? don’t come to the Gables wearing those clothes
August 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
SC is on a roll today
August 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Wait… you.. you aren’t joking? Oh my god you’re serious. I can’t have this conversation
August 11th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
zwick was pretty bad..
Yes bad, but unfairly overhyped because he was a local kid. He really wasn’t that good, bucks fans just wanted him to be great
August 11th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
SC…first, florida won that in such brutal fashion for two reasons…bollman and heacock. bollman is the OC/OL coach who couldn’t teach his guys HOW TO FUCKING FAN OUT and heacock decided to play a stupid tampa 2 zone against a team that will kill you if you give them open space.
second…you really have no idea how terrible boeckman was, do you?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I’ll concede that you’re right that playing Pryor was a good idea. But it says a hell of a lot about Meyer and his abilities as a coach to work his offense so effectively with 2 QBs.
Pryor was such a raw offensive mess last year. He couldn’t throw for shit. What were his stats against Texas and PSU? 5/12 against Texas. 9 carries for 6 yards against PSU and no TDs with a pick.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
National titles in college takes an insane amount of luck, can’t judge college players/coaches by them.
Pryor looks good sometimes, but he throws like a girl. When playing against legitimate NFL players (USC/PSU), he’s struggled because he can’t just outrun them. Remember that VY was extremely inconsistent his entire career, even the year they won it all, Pryor could be the same way.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Pryor throw the ball much better than VY. i think he’s bigger and faster, too.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Without the titleist gravatar i’m lost… i keep forgetting to make golf references at the wrong time now. hmm.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
leak and tebow were both no. 1 overall recruits in their recruiting class. that says nothing about meyer.
yea…his motion is a little weird, but damn, does he have a cannon. and if his mechanics keep improving from the spring game, shit…
August 11th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
not to need an armed guard sitting at my side.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Pryor was also 6-2 as a starter, with his only losses coming to Penn St (BCS team) and Texas (BCS team)
August 11th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Their second-leading rusher to the tune of 33.5/rushing ypg. Sick anchor.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Pryor needs to put on weight and get a stronger arm and he goes gonna be just fine. He was a true freshman last year who was thrown to the wolves. Very athletic and I hope Tressel utilizes him in such a fashion. He will lead OSU to national championship the year after this year.
/Book it
August 11th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Exactly. The OSU fans are speaking like Pryor is the next coming of Jesus in cleats. He’s an incredible athletic specimen, but has Tressel proven he can design creative (chuckle) schemes to showcase that kind of talent?
No, he hasn’t. He’s shown he knows how to play Big Ten, smashmouth football. He’s about as “uncreative” as they come.
Against the spread offense, he’s made to look like a fool. His best teams have been with a pocket QB and strong arm. Craig Krenzel wasn’t a star QB. He was just like Todd Boeckman.
You’re goddamn right I am. This is logical. I don’t see how you can’t follow it.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
What was his “big win” then WCT? He lost to Texas too. He didn’t beat anyone of merit. The B10 was awful last year.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
wow…i know he’s gone, but troy smith’s heisman trophy year wasn’t THAT long ago. and if you call that smashmouth, you didn’t watch.
just because krenzel and boeckman are both white, doesn’t make them similar players. krenzel couldn’t throw for shit, but was mobile and could pick up yards with his feet. boeckman had a cannon but was a statue back there.
because you’re REALLY offbase talking to a bunch of buckeye fans who know what they’re talking about.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
No, he hasn’t. He’s shown he knows how to play Big Ten, smashmouth football. He’s about as “uncreative” as they come.
Totally agree, been making this argument for years. I’m not making Pryor out to be Jesus in cleats. I’m saying it isn’t hard to get into the NC game playing in the Big 11 when you have to most talent behind center in your weak conference when Pryor is a junior and finally has experience.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
But they were both game managers, Spencer. Not some kid trying to make the spectacular play like Pryor.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
the factor giving us Buckeye fans the most hope in the next couple years might not even be Pryor. it’s probably the 4 horsemen on the offensive line protecting him. Our O-line will be greatly improved from the last couple years..
August 11th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Spencer, you think Pryor really has a cannon? It might be more mechanics with him than anything, but he did under throw a lot of receivers last season.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
They sell those?
Sounds like VY to me without the elusiveness.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Tressel probably prepares players for the NFL better than most other coaches in college football thought because of the system they play in. More so lineman than skill players.
Ohio State has some good defenders in the NFL. Lineman, too. Just like the rest of the B10. Skill players usually come from USC or the South.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Pryor was forced to make plays last year because the O-line was bruuuutal SC. it really had nothing to do with Pryor wanting to make those spectacular plays, he was forced to try to make things happen.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Ohio State has some good defenders in the NFL
I disagree. buffalo has drafted some losers from there over the years
August 11th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
so then what was troy smith? a figment of my imagination? were those 1.5 years of troy smith badassery just a mirage?
and so pryor is a game manager with a fuckload more talent. that’s not that bad is it?
plus, everything ive been hearing is suggesting that tressel is moving the offense to really emphasize the pistol formation that was effective as fuck last year. kinda similar to the nevada offense.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I hate OSU with a passion, but this is ludicrous. Most Big Ten teams use the spread or some deviation of it (OSU, Wisconsin and Iowa do not), with a many teams running it since the 90’s (Purdue, NW, etc.). You don’t win as many league titles as Tressel has by looking like a “fool” against the spread.
/I just threw up in my mouth
August 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
he DOES have a cannon…it’s the intermediate passes where he tries to push the ball instead of throw it with touch.
but when he wants to put zip on it, there’s a fuck ton of zip.
he’s a lot stronger and more aggressive than VY tho. not worse, just different.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
take a look at OSU WR’s and CB’s in the NFL and tell me they don’t develop skill players.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I just got to this post, and was skimming it. There’s only one thing I’m sure of. The guy who said this…
SC is on a roll today
didn’t mean it as a compliment.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Troy Smith was great Spencer. I’m not saying he wasn’t. But it does help when one of your receivers is 10x faster than the DBs covering him. And when you have a healthy Beanie Wells.
@Roeth – Purdue and NW’s offense don’t incorporate the option… well, NWs does a little but that’s with a white QB who is 6′0″ and can’t run. Those SEC spreads are a whole different story.
ILL has been the closest to an SEC spread we’ve seen in the B10 in the last few years because of Juice, Benn and Mendenhall.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Yeah, the “looking foolish” part comes against out of conference opponents, or bowl games.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I’m aware dirt. I’m fucking aware.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
CBs sure. WRs… meh. But we’ll leave that for another day. I think we’ve raised each other’d blood pressure enough for one day, Spencer.
Probably my most favorite commenter to argue with. Somehow, I doubt the feeling is mutual.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
/slaps forehead
beanie wells wasn’t even a starter on that team, he was a true frosh behind antonio pittman. and, yes, anthony gonzo and ginn were AWESOME WR’s, but smith was a fucking beast that year, and it wasn’t anything close to the “smashmouth” offense you’re pigeonholing tressel into.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I meant Pittman…. sorry.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
WR’s meh? wow…
and i love to argue…im sicilian, it’s in my dna. i could prove you wrong all day AND get my shit at work done, lawya.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Jenkins, Holmes, Boston, Ginn, and Carter are all losers who never developed and won’t develop. Do you want me to go on. SC, please stop
August 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Please stop encouraging Spencer? Or just stop in general? I was gonna go make a sandwich because this worked up an appetite.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
oh and Gonzo plays a huge role in Indy this year as well.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Please stop encouraging Spencer? Or just stop in general? I was gonna go make a sandwich because this worked up an appetite.
Go make one, it sounds like you’ve been eating retard sandwiches all day
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Jenkins, Holmes, Boston, Ginn, and Carter are all losers who never developed and won’t develop. Do you want me to go on.
since you asked: Nate “Toast” Clements, Ashton Youbouty, Bobby Carpenter, AJ Hawk to name a few off the top of head in 5 seconds. give me three minutes and i’ll crash tbl’s server
August 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
mmm…retard sandwiches.
/drools
August 11th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
You just agreed with me on OSU WRs!!
And I have a point, damnit! Normally I walk away from this stuff, but today was an exception.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy on Michael “Brick Hands” Jenkins. Had a good year last year and should develop further this year.
I don’t care who you are, that shit’s funny right there (with redneck accent).
August 11th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
i think PL’s comments on OSU receivers was in jest.. Holmes and Carter?
August 11th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
@PLSK – And if you’d like to wager on LeBron leaving Cleveland, e-mail me. I’m more than happy to take your money and make you eat your words.
Ohio has to be the most insufferable homer state ever. More than MA. More than NY. You guys will just fight to the death and never, ever admit your wrong.
BTW, no one was right in this thread. This is just good debate IMO.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Ginn developed a ton last year. Boston was good for like two years and developed just fine. The problem was his body developed rather weirdly and he effed himself. Jenkins hasn’t lived up to the billing but isn’t terrible. Holmes isn’t great but he’s not bad or average.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
we’re not insufferable because we SUFFER the fuck out every sport.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
It better not have been in David Boston’s case. That guy fucking sucked. So did Jenkins… that was partially Vick’s fault.
Holmes is good. Quite good.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
PSU receivers underachieve waaaaaayyyy more than OSU’s receivers.
/suck on that
August 11th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
agreed on Boston but i have a hard time believing he would put Carter (or Holmes) in there and talk about them not being developed..
August 11th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Holmes and Carter?
uhhh, huh? I’m confused but i think you can agree those two have/had moderate success in the NFL to be modest
August 11th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
We’re just disgruntled because we both haven’t won anything in a while. Yes, I had Jordan. You have OSU football.
Not sure if it’s harder being an Indians fan or Cubs fan. You don’t compete due to small market drawbacks, I don’t compete because… well, we just mismanage the shit out of everything or choke.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
except for when he was with arizona and his first year in SD.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Hahahaha, “body developed rather weirdly”, yeah, and he was suspended for roiding like twice.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
My team is only famous for lineman (which as Spencer knows, goes LARGELY unappreciated) and Bob Sanders! That’s it!
August 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
you missunderstood. I agree with you. I was trying to explain to SC that you were joking about OSU receivers not developing..
August 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Boston fucked himself with roids, he had star potential written all over him. I thought he had a few good years in the NFL til he exploded into a linebacker. SC, I AM ALLOWED TO BE INSUFFERABLE. You’re from chicago, the home of the Cubs, you’re in the same boat if i’m insufferable
August 11th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Gotcha Youngstown, My bad.
August 11th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Jenkins and Boston still suck.
/runs
August 11th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
miami is the only school that produces successfull nfl players like osu. after those two theres a huge drop off. kind of glad i missed this post. would be too scared to piss off philly fan.
August 11th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
OSU’s best LB got hurt and is out for the year. Their D is even more suspect now.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:58 am
it sucks moeller got sucker punched by a faggy, drunk gaytors fan, but if there was anywhere osu could afford to lose a guy, it’s in the LB corps. hines or sabino should get some more burn which will be a great thing and improve the defense’s speed.