2009 NFL Preview: Baltimore Ravens
2009 NFL Previews, NFL, Video August 26th. 2009, 12:45pm
Whether it’s a good season or a forgettable one, does the general theme ever really change for the Baltimore Ravens? Each year they’re led by an absurdly vicious defense that keeps them in the majority of their games long enough for the limping offense to put some points on the board and narrowly escape with a win. Much like every other team in the NFL, the parts have certainly changed, particularly on the offensive side of the ball, but it’s really just more of the same — Joe Flacco is not a whole lot different than Trent Dilfer.
When Trent was carried to the promised land by Ray Lewis in 2001, a Super Bowl more painful to watch than Dan Aykroyd in Caddyshack 2, he finished the season with 12 TDs and 11 picks. In 2004, the great Kyle Boller threw for 13 and 11. Last year, Flacco threw 14 and 12.
This is what they do. This is what you should expect out of a Ravens quarterback. Don’t let anyone fool you into believing Cam Cameron’s going to be working magic with this offense. You need weapons to create magic.
Vaunted History: When you look at their list of quarterbacks over the past decade or so, nearly all the names inspire laughter. Vinny Testaverde, a washed-up Jim Harbaugh, Tony Banks, Elvis Grbac, Bubbles, Jeff Blake and the wonderful Kyle Boller experiment four different times. It’s amazing Flacco wasn’t instantly swallowed whole by the pressure. Instead, his forehead broke out.
Who Exactly Will Flacco Be Throwing To? They have the 35-year old Derrick Mason, who had shoulder surgery, retired, then unretired. Despite being indecisive, he’s durable, as he’s played in all 16 games for the past six seasons. After him it’s ridiculously thin. Mark Clayton? He’s inconsistent and hasn’t been able to duplicate his ‘06 performance. After that it’s Kelley Washington, Demetrius Williams and Yamon Figurs, who combined for 15 catches last year. Then there’s Justin Harper, the second year pro who does not yet have a profile on Pro-Football-Reference. Sounds like a party.
Toad Heap had just 35 catches last year. The weird part? He didn’t miss any games, he just blocked a whole lot. If the guy can actually participate in practices on a regular basis, maybe he’ll be part of the offense like he was in 2005 (75 catches) and 2006 (73 catches). Otherwise, they’ll be going to L.J. Smith. I’d pray for the former.
Ray-Ray’s Fired Up: He signed a new contract in the offseason, lost 15 pounds and, I’m sure partially due to the New York media hype, is awfully tired of hearing how much the Ravens defense will be affected by the departures of Bart Scott and Rex Ryan. He’ll still have T-Sizzle reeking havoc all over the field and don’t forget about Jarret Johnson, who finished ‘08 with 82 tackles, five sacks and two forced fumbles. Tavares Gooden, on the other hand, has monster cleats to fill. He happens to be a ‘Cane though, so Ray’s a believer.
Job Well Done! To the Ravens’ Tony Fein, an undrafted linebacker who was arrested last Sunday and charged with assaulting a police officer. Well played, sir.
Joe Montana? Seriously? It doesn’t matter if it’s simply their common love of Fun Dip being discussed, Joe Montana and Joe Flacco should not be mentioned in the same sentence. The guy has yet to throw for 300 yards in a single game and we’re already hearing Jon Gruden compare his coolness under pressure to that of Montana’s. Come on Chucky, let’s see what happens in season two before we all start treating Flacco’s wang like a Push Pop. To be perfectly honest though, the fact that Gruden didn’t say he’s “UnFlaccable” in the pocket was incredibly disappointing.
Why You Should Root For The Ravens: Maybe not the team as a whole, but at least for rookie Michael Oher. If you haven’t read The Blind Side, shame on you, his story is phenomenal. If you have read it, you’ll no doubt be rooting for him to do well and read up on his progress throughout the season. Seriously, can’t say enough good things about that book.
Willis McGahee missed three games last year, but even if he’s perfectly healthy, you’ll be seeing a lot of Ray Rice too. Another fantasy football miracle!
Fawning Over Ed Reed: He’s an amazing player and a lot of fun to watch, but until he has eight of his ten fingers removed just so he can stay in a football game, I’m not that impressed.
Spearing someone into a giant pile of creatine while watching this video is not only encouraged, but celebrated.
Dawan Landry missed 14 games last season after suffering a spinal cord concussion. This year he’ll be taking over Jim Leonhard’s old spot. Landry is no slouch, remember, he had five picks as a rookie in 2006. Plus, he writes his own music.
Farewell to longtime kicker Matt Stover, who retired at the age of 40. He was with the Browns/Ravens from 1991 to 2008. Technically, he stayed with the same franchise his whole career. A rare occurrence.
And finally… Arthur B Modell.
He still has a 1% share and an office at Ravens’ headquarters, but he’s not here for the sole purpose of pissing off Cleveland fans, he’s here because Modell’s Sporting Goods really has some great stuff.
Prediction: 10-6 with a playoff win.
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August 26th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
may he rot in fucking hell, strapped to the burning rocks next to judas iscariot and brutus.
and joe flacco is not a good QB. i don’t know what the hell people were watching last year that convinced them otherwise. matt ryan? abso-fucking-lutely…flacco? TERRIBLE.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
he can throw the ball far…
August 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I didn’t know Trent Dilfer and Kim Jong-Il were friends.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Art Model – every year around this time I drive up to his old house in Waite Hill and flip him the bird. That cockgobbler.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I didn’t realize Flacco’s numbers were so average last year, the way people fellated him it was like he was the second coming of Peyton Manning or something.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Matt Ryan = Joe Flacco. Big step backwards for the both of them this year.
That SI cover is pretty awesome.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
right to troy polamalu.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Keep talking shit Clown fans. Flacco is soon to be a Pro Bowler. Great arm,accuracy and poise. As for the offense, 5th in rushing,2nd in margin of victory behind Philly. Flacco won’t reach superstardom until they improve the WR corp but he will improve like last year: 1 TD 7 INT in first 7 games. 13 TD 5 INT the last 9. Look for 20 TD’s and 3,200 YDS passing. 11-5 record, lose in 2nd rd.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
One question…does Flaco not have anyone around him that’s willing to say, “dude, get rid of the unibrow”? I mean, some ugly features can’t be fixed without plastic surgery, but a unibrow isn’t one of them.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
not even close.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Ed Reed is the fucking man
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I bet if you put him in the Chargers offense, he’d put up better numbers than Rivers…
/strikes match on bottom of cowboy boot
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
I’m so glad spencer commented first to kick-start what should be a great debate between he and whomever about Flacco.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
My father and I have renamed taking a deuce to “Dropping a Modell”. Catchy, isn’t it?
As for Flacco, meh. He’s lucky Mason decided to come back. He is a very underrated receiver who is seemingly always open. Well, at least Flacco thinks so since he is his 1st, 2nd, and 3rd options on most pass plays. But, he has a BIG arm, so he must be great.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
i think ray-ray needs to get that burning sensation looked at by a doctor, looks pretty serious.
August 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
uh-oh…
August 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Is that really you brian billick?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
of course he has good poise…he’s too dumb to realize what the hell is going on.
your wardrobe must consist of nothing but purple camo if you think flacco is a good QB.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Kelley Washington = The Future (!!!!)
August 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
great write-up, Hernia
Cue the “Ray Lewis is the best leader in the history of sports” flossing in 1…2…3
/MSM’d
awesome player, but God do I hate that guy
August 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Since statistics are useless in analyzing QBs, the only way to judge Flacco is based on his team’s win total and postseason success. And didn’t the Ravens make the AFC title game last season? Joe Flacco = Top 8 QB.
/Coop
August 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
i think it’s the same syndrome that plagues rich guys who buy the ugliest clothes or cars and have chrome dome pony tails. probalby don’t give a shit since they have millions of dollars.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Or be a horny announcer.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Is this too easy now for Flacco?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
if you put him in the chargers offense the only thing that’d be different would be his tan.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Joke you missed in there: Montana? Nope Flacco can’t be compared to him, BUT the Ravens do have Ray Rice.
/Your welcome
August 26th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Bad enough you mention Modell, but did you have to bring this up?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
ray murda’s histrionics are pretty lame, but he’s the smartest LB in the game and his team obviously responds. nothing but respect for the guy (on the field).
he’s gonna be an AWESOME coach if he goes that way.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
That would’ve kept me from going to Push Pop though.
@jpq: thanks man
August 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Here’s an image of Model’s old house (the house he lived in when he stole the Browns from the city of Cleveland). Everyone feel free to join me in hating Modell and the Ravens.
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=qy444386k11y&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=20099274&encType=1
August 26th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I’d like to put out my annual call for a copy of the Plain Dealer article etailing Art Modell’s bathroom fall and subsequent “torn scrotum” (the PD’s words).
I think my framed copy was stolen from my old office.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
yea, kudos hernia…this was damn entertaining.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
don’t forget the presence of Haloti Ngata on D. Dude is a terror.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Sorry for the OT, but this sandwich looks kind of awesome.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Ryan has a top-5 WR in football, the best TE (or at least top-3) and a top-5 running back. Ryan will do just fine.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Here’s an image of Model’s old house (the house he lived in when he stole the Browns from the city of Cleveland). Everyone feel free to join me in hating Modell and the Ravens.
fucking piker. no wonder he had to sell the team
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/53899/view/?service=1
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/12497/view/?service=1
August 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
@Hernia – I know you hate me because I said I wanted to firebomb the Notre Dame campus, but please accept my compliment on a job well done with this post.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
absolutely…his physical ability nonewithstanding, he’s one NASTY dude.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Can we get any proof on the existence of a Joe Flacco WAG? That would allow me something to make a more-informed decision on his either (A) certain Pro Bowling or (B) career mediocrity. Something tells me this guy lives at home when his parents, and when he finally meets a girl, he won’t know what to do and flame out.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Sorry for the OT, but this sandwich looks kind of awesome.
Mike: I just got that emailed to me, and was literally getting ready to post it-lol
August 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I was expecting better.
Let’s try again… who would you rather hit with your car? Art Modell or Clayton Bennett?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
not at all MikeNYC
August 26th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
and he is not joe flacco.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
ben roethlisberger.
/chrysler’d
August 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
thanks spence
NDub: HA, and thanks. I don’t hate you, once you said you lived in the middle of the ND forcefeeding, I understood.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
speking of The Blind Side, has anyone ever read any of Michael Lewis’s other books (other than Moneyball)? Any good? because his two sports books were great.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Hernia: you go to ND?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
You’re attributing that margin of victory to their offense, eh?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I think i said this the other day, but I’ll do it again. One of my favorite all time Ducks. Dude holds the blocked kick record at Oregon that’s how nasty he is.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Seconded, what an amazing, amazing story. I intend to watch the Ravens just for him this year.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
ed reed, HOF’er?
i say yes.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I think i said this the other day, but I’ll do it again. One of my favorite all time Ducks. Dude holds the blocked kick record at Oregon that’s how nasty he is.
if you redraft the Reggie Bush / Mario Williams draft, Ngata goes way, way, way higher than 12. Maybe even #1.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Ray Lewis is on Fire!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
i may have to side with Billick on this one. Flacco could be good this season, esp with that running game to help.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
im still pissed at phil savage for swapping the 12 and 13 picks with the ravens so he could get kamerion wimbley while the ravens took ngata.
in hindsight…pretty fucking lopsided.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Yes.
The Buckhead Slasher will have a down year regardless of how mad he appears… Bart Scott quietly kept the myth of Ray-Ray alive last year. Scott is a beast.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
This was probably said this morning but…
Rex Ryan made his first mistake as Jets coach today. Didn’t see it until now.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
over onterrio and akili smith?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
i say yes
who said no?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
im still pissed at phil savage for swapping the 12 and 13 picks with the ravens so he could get kamerion wimbley while the ravens took ngata.
Haha, I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the Browns fans recounting how awful the franchise has been. Not because I dislike the Browns but because they’re so resigned to it.
Ed Reed is HOF
August 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Spence,
Didn’t they make that trade because of the 3-4 system?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Fred Savage > phil savage
August 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
PKI – is this the guy you saw this morning?
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Scorned-Wife-Exacts-Revenge-on-Hubby-Entertains-Us-55036842.html
August 26th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
dunno…you just never hear him referred to as a future HOF’er like a lot of other players.
well yea…only problem is that balt uses a 3-4 base as well and ngata is the perfect NT who’s versatile as hell.
meh…it probably wouldn’t have made a differnce anyways. crennel would’ve wasted him or he would’ve gotten a staph infection or something.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
this upsets you but youre fine with taking winslow over roethlisberger. i dont get it.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Right?
/inside joke MLJ Fantasy draft’d
August 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
The Dilfer comparison is ridiculous. A first year QB out of powerhouse Delaware= a 7 year vet at the time of winning a Super Bowl? Not to mention Dilfer had trouble throwing the ball 20 yds.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
i say yes who said no?
very hard to say no, although he needs more years. 43 int’s in 7 years? that’s a shitload.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
It pains me to say that I think the Ravens are going to win their division this year. Great organization in a filthy city.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
I loved Akili at Oregon. Probably the best college QB they have had in my lifetime. I remember one play against Michigan State where he had two guys bringing him down and he still zipped a 25 yard bullet for a TD. Had a sweet game winning TD pass at washington and had a long ass run to beat USC in a night game.
Fuck onterrio smith.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
via Pat Forde on twitter:
Rick Pitino has called 3 a.m. press conference. No indication of the subject yet.
anyone? anyone?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
At the Might Thor (that’s fun to write) The New New Thing is excellent. Also Lewis edits Panic: the story of Modern Financial Insanity which is a really good primer on a lot of perspectives of just why things went so wrong over the last few years.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
/truth
August 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
i can’t stay up that late, or wake-up that early.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
an NT can make an impact by himself, a QB needs to rely on what’s around them. big ben would’ve gotten slaughtered back there with those browns offenses.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Panic: the story of Modern Financial Insanity
If anyone still hasn’t read any background on the financial collapse I would strongly suggest this article.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Clearly looking to dodge the peak news cycle.
/waits for duffy to yell at sparty and i
August 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
brownies were down to him and couch. wonder if things wouldve turned out differently if they draft him. i remember wanting to draft edgerrin james after watching him light up ucla in an unreal game.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
3 am? press conference?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
With regards to Winslow Roethlisberger, there was no test at the combines to determine who would recover from a vehicle crash more quickly so I feel that the Browns get a pass on that one.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Maybe Pitino’s in Hawaii…or England.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Souvenir City hates this passage for no particular reason.
I like where your head’s at.
/said the same thing in my preview
August 26th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Think the Ravens are going to be very good this year, in fact with the AFC North divisional matchups being quite easy dont be surprised if the AFC doesn’t end Pitt #1, Balt #2.
Hate on Flacco all you want, I saw a lot of poise and quite a few clutch throws last year. Ray Rice is a going to be a stud, when your spell back is as good as Mcahee, thats a solid running game.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Ravens suck
The only thing Ray could teach would be how to run 15 yards downfield and dive on a receiver to get credit for a tackle he didn’t make and how to participate in a murder.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
He gonna nail his gumar on a table again. This time at a press conference. Thats the only thing I would have a presser about at that time of night.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Browns…Bengals…is there a difference? What killed him was the holdout, never a good idea and especially for qbs that are going to play in their first year. I remember that Edge game, reminds me of Bush vs Fresno state. That was the year UCLA was top dog if i’m not mistaken, and that was a make up game because of a hurricane?
August 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
/bannin’
I’m still a little pissed that he helped start the snowball for shutting down a great Buckhead nightlife scene. A couple murders, and people get all worried…
August 26th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
you know that ain’t true. hate the dude (and i do), but he’s smart as fuck out there.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Well, if it’s at 3 a.m., it’s probably to announce he has to take a piss.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
AWESOME
August 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
i’m not going to read all these comments, but re: The Blind Side, if you haven’t read it, you definitely should. my ex-girlfriend even read it and just skipped the football chapters. awesome story, and yeah i’ll definitely be keeping an eye on him.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
No shit. Buckhead was the bidness for the first couple years of college.
August 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
ERRONEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not SSP, just linking to prove he’s LYING!
August 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Actually, maybe it is ridiculous. Flacco threw for almost double the yards Trent did during that Super Bowl year. Good old Trent doesn’t belong in UnFlaccable territory.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Meh, it was close enough. I wrote that thing like 3 months ago, so I forgot the details. I just remember people being all “no way they win ten games rabble rabble harumph”.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
yeah knocked ucla out of the title mix. was watching b/c osu needed a bunch of teams like ucla to lose to jump back in the title game. bush game was unreal too. maybe the 2 best from rbs ive ever seen.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
re: Dawan Landry – I had to look it up, but yeah, now that I know he’s from an ACC football program, I really don’t like him.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
The only thing Ray could teach would be how to run 15 yards downfield and dive on a receiver to get credit for a tackle he didn’t make and how to participate in a murder
what would Big Ben teach as a coach Roeth?
August 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Pitino clearly wants to wait for Carson Daly’s millions to change over.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
You could’ve just looked at the thing you linked. The Landry thing comes before the prediction in that post.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
More than one rook would have to fix Ben’s television, that’s for sure.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Just tryin’ to keep you on your toes, lefty. 8 more days my friend. 8 days…
August 26th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Flacco’s second half was much better than his first half (hence his stat suckage), but if you only looked at the stats that’s misleading too. His playoff performance was damn good for a rookie. Ryan was better, yes. All the sportswriters who never bother with the Ravens have to compare them to the 2000 team because they haven’t paid attention since. Flacco isn’t Dilfer. I loved that Super Bowl, though. Fuck the Giants!
P.S. Bubbles had quick feet in the pocket, but often got his receivers killed (like Johnny “white shoes” Weeks)
August 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I’m about sick of anyone being compared to Trent Dilfer. The early 2000’s was a dreadful period for QB play in the NFL, which opened the door for some pretty bad teams (Balt, NE’s first title, Tampa) to win the title. If you look at the best QB’s (by rating for what thats worth) from 2000-2002 its a disgusting mess of Brians Griese’s, Trent Green’s, and Rich Gannon type of garbage. That period is nothing like the group of high quality QB’s currently in the playoffs every year now.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
how to fix televisions? motorcycle safety? beating shaq in touch football?
August 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
@TBL
Yup that was the dude! That shit is funny.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
You can’t teach clutch, you’re either born with it or you’re not.
/MikeNYC’s head explodes
August 26th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Even Steve Sanders? They’re basically twins that love smiling.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
MVP!
/I can’t believe it either
August 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
@yankeehooligan: I went with Dilfer and Boller because it was the two opposite ends, winning it all and complete failure, yet in both cases the QB had the same exact stats.
Bubbles was obviously a rare case of greatness.
August 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I’m not saying he could coach anything other than motorcycle safety
August 26th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Even Steve Sanders? They’re basically twins that love smiling.
Dilfer isn’t KEG house material.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
I can’t believe that I missed all the Big Ben fun over the last couple of days. The Ravens are good, but i think the Steelers win the division again. Ben was banged up from week 1 on last year, i think he’s much better this year.
coop, i enjoyed your takedown of FO yesterday. i like what they’re trying to do, but i take it with a grain of salt.
August 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
How to force ourselves on top of batshit crazy women?
/redundant on batshit crazy and woman