Instant Replay In Baseball??
Baseball October 10th. 2009, 4:30pm
After the controversial call in the Yankees-Twins game last night, there is a whole new round of debate about the use of instant replay in Major League Baseball.
Buster Olney supports an expanded replay system. It’s behind the dreaded Insider wall, but he does indeed think baseball should get more tech-savvy.
Well, Major League Baseball could simply expand the list of reviewable plays. Out or safe calls on the bases. Tag plays. Fair- and foul-ball plays. Plays that stem from situations around home plate — a question about whether a batter was hit by a pitch, whether there was catcher’s interference when a batter swings, whether a catcher gloved a foul tip before it hit the ground.
Olney isn’t alone on this one. Yahoo!’s Dan Wetzel tweets they’ll get it eventually.
“Baseball always last on change. Race, roids, expanded postseason. Replay is latest, they’ll do it eventually”
The internet is long on people asking for instant replay after the blown call in the 11th last night. From The Biz of Baseball:
Cuzzi’s blown call outlines the need for MLB to expand its use of instant replay for line calls – those balls that are on the edge of being fair or foul. MLB already uses boundary calls for homeruns, so the move to line calls isn’t earth shattering. Commissioner Selig, you need to make it happen.
USA Today’s Mike Lopresti is also in the Pro-Replay Camp.
tweaking seems in order. Not for the bang-bang plays at first, but at least fair-or-foul calls – such as the one Cuzzi missed. That’s like asking whether a receiver’s foot is inbounds or out. Or a jump shooter’s toe is over the three-point line. Or a first service is good.
Football, basketball and tennis all use replay in that situation. They spare themselves Friday night’s embarrassment.
But that debate comes later. For the immediate future, the issue is as plain as Mauer’s double.
The umpires need to do better.
That’s agreeable enough. Joe Browne, the NFL’s EVP of Communications and Public Affairs had this to tweet:
“I admit i am watching yanks-twins and thinking how good our officiating really is.”
When the NFL is bragging about their officials, you know you’re in bad shape.
Should MLB expand replay? Obviously it won’t be a fix-all. And that’s the argument against replay. Baseball is a game played by humans and officiated by humans. Umpires will still miss ball and strike calls. Anything that can’t be reviewed can and will be mucked up. The NFL has a good replay system, but there are plenty of flaws. Some plays can’t be reviewed. On top of that, reviews take way too long. LeBron knows we don’t need to make baseball games any longer. (In the future, first round playoff games on the West Coast will end around 2pm the next day.)
This is all true. However… Just because officiating in sports will never be perfect doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do everything in our power to make the officiating better. Major League Baseball should expand their replay system. Even if it means getting a call right that goes against the Yankees in the Playoffs. Sometimes you have to hurt the one you love.
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October 10th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Well played.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Instant Replay will not make baseball games longer. Sensibly implemented, it would take much less time than having a manager waddle out from the dugout, have a pointless five minute argument, and waddle back.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Also, this might be used like once a game. Even assuming it took extra time, which it would not. It’s more important to get calls right than it is to shorten the game from 3:10 to 3:05.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Don’t know who you’re arguing with Duffy I’ve never heard anyone who isn’t a sportswriter (and even those are dwindling) that isn’t for replay.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Looking at the picture above, how does this guy miss this? Replay or not, that should b completely unacceptable.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
fellas we’re missing the bigger question.why would anyone pay to read what buster olney has to say when i can hear his opinion for free on baseball tonight? i dont ever go “oh shit! what is buster gonna say about this?!”
i read this:
and just said ” oh,buster is in favor of expanded replay.” i dont need to read a 5,000 word article as to why he is in favor of it.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Damn right if this did not happen in New York all hell would be breaking lose in the media. Someone explain to me how that call by the outfield umpire was NOT rigged?
Talk about home-cooking at Yankee Stadium last night …from this morning …
http://thebiglead.com/?p=24002#comment-529641
October 10th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
From his angle, it’s possible Melky’s glove shielded his view a bit.
/go Yanks’d
October 10th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
blockquote>Looking at the picture above, how does this guy miss this? Replay or not, that should b completely unacceptable.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Yeah right whatever typical Yankees fan with whom the “free” media are embedded. No question it hit his glove as well, so that is two calls missed even when in plain sight!
/Fixed
October 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Of course Mike NYC in bed with TSH on this for the Yankees would not see the need for expanded replay, as according to his spreadsheets it would be unprofitable, but of course he is mistaken when he considers the additional advertising revenue at stake as well.
/Bottom Lined For Mike NYC And Yankee And Other Wall Street Scum
October 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Wonder why Twins didn’t argue, sometimes that will cause umpires tower and then they’ll overturn. They didn’t do anything.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
We should remain far from convinced on Captain Hernia for that matter by his defensive response above, but perhaps he can clarify further instead of obscuring his true position in lengthy babble? And certainly the tone of his writing above would be far different with a call against his Yankees as well.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
are you sure that CB Bucknor wasn’t the umpire in question?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I pay 14.95 a year for Insider entirely because of Buster Olney’s blog. He rounds up basically every relevant baseball story you can imagine every day and handily links them in one place while giving his general thoughts (which are usually pretty interesting themselves). There is no better, easier way to know what’s going in baseball then his blog, and if you’re serious about fantasy it’s resource 1.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Lol tower = to get together. Typing and driving not always easy
October 10th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
more proof that you are my evil twin.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Gardenhire said he couldn’t see it. Only Orlando Cabrera was going nuts.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Hernia, please tag every single one of your comments with a /tongue-in-cheek…your glibness is lost on certain bojack, ninne, hilljack, apple jack, cracker jack, flapjack, douchebags
October 10th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Gardenhire is an idiot would be a better explanation. Not necessarily on that play, but overall.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I’m actually pissed I’m paying that, back when Ebay still had 85% of all the magazines in the world available for subscription at ridiculous prices I subscribed to ESPN for three years for seven bucks, and of course Insider came free. They used to have Neyer and Law behind the wall too, and I couldn’t give them all up so I started paying the annual rate last year.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I pay 14.95 a year for Insider
let me use your password. i won’t need it more than 12 times a year.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Do Twins fans not like him? Seems like a guy that would be hard to hate, but you would know better than I would.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
this site would be awesomer with an ignore button.
/cue the but who would you comment to mrejr? comments.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I would prefer that Gardenhire put Brendan Harris back on the bench though.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
If I had Mike NYC money I’d hire Orlando Cabrera to explain things to me in the style of Mexican soap operas. Him in the dug out last night was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a game all year.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Olney and Stark are the only two baseball talking heads i give credibility too.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Yes, but some crafty folks would find a way around it anyway like the spammers.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Hernia: I like him as a guy, but not from a strategy standpoint. He gave away probably 3 wins by not playing the proper outfield all season
October 10th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
let me use your password. i won’t need it more than 12 times a year.
And how would Buster Olney feed his family then Dirt?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
This answers my concerns after I had read through mostly the other stuff. Thanks Captain Hernia. Forget Mike NYC anyway.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Do Twins fans not like him? Seems like a guy that would be hard to hate, but you would know better than I would.
He is Posnanski’s favorite manager and about once a month he runs a post where he just responds to all the Minnesoata fans who think Gardy’s an idiot.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
yeah that is who we want to ignore….spammers.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
To suggest that ANY play on the bases should be reviewable is nonsense. I would be in favor of ALL fair/foul calls, not just the home runs.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
But just think Brock/Mrejr, one would miss this brilliant comment of yours for every hundred of your regular babble and dog love? I vote agains the iggy button.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Paolo, CRM wrote this post.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
really gooch? I’ve never seen that.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Paolo, CRM wrote this post.
hernia: I have been patiently laying in the weeds, wondering when someone was going to tell Paolo that
October 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
anyone know if the ump is related to Jeffrey Maier?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Was “Just because officiating in sports will never be perfect doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do everything in our power to make the officiating better. Major League Baseball should expand their replay system.” too vague?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Don Denkinger and Joauqin Andujar laughs at the absurdity of all this anti NY sentiment, as if NY teams are the only ones who have benefitted from a blown call?
//What part of NY is Kansas City in again?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Yeah, he’s run at least three or four defending Gardy posts.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
What part of NY is Kansas City in again?
KC was a breeding ground for future Yankee stars back in the late 50’s & 60’s. The Athletics shipped a lot of good players to NY because KC didnt want to pay the players.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Phil Cuzzi’s wikipedia entry.. Ohhhhhh I thought only retarded Red Sox fans would do such a thing???
PS: Phil Cuzzi is from Newark NJ.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
that call so obviously wrong that the left field ump should be investigated. seriously that was beyond awful.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
but that was a completely different organization. in fact, the Royals were the Yanks biggest rival next to the Sox back in the 70s.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I’d say the Royals were bigger. They met every year in the playoffs from 76-78, plus 80.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Sparty, I tried to spin it to sound like the Yanks were buying good players well before free agency. But that’s not fair. Salary dumping has been going on since the early 1900’s.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Thanks then Captain Hernia and okay credit then to Captain Mexico
October 10th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
The Royals were a bigger rival than the Royals?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
How the fuck many Paolo points is “okay credit” worth? I can’t feed my kids with your words.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
they stakes were definitely higher, but that’s only because the Sox and Yanks couldn’t meet in the playoffs until the late 90s. The Yanks/Sox rivalry was still a bigger one.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
you have a basic understanding now, fetch?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Learn to read fetch.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Ha yeah I can’t read. I shouldn’t be trying to find an online feed of Oregon-UCLA while commenting
October 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
fucking justin tv isn’t coming through for me. Oh well, there’s plenty of 1 AA football on TV, I don’t need to look for it online.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Oregon/UCLA
October 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
and Ohio State just beat Wisconsin.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
It works out to EVEN on this post Captain Mexico, because your apologetic babble is remedied in the last paragraph. That last paragraph alone, akin to Brock’s comments, was all that was necessary to make the core point. Thanks for playing — try again on another post.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
http://www.justin.tv/sky_high_8
ore-ucla
/i help people even when they are douchebags.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
oregon is thumping ucla.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
yeah…not the finest minute in UW football right there
October 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
that one didn’t work for me mrejr.
I think baseball should almost go to an automated strike zone. The technology is obviously there and there would be less of a guessing game as to which umpire is going to give you which calls.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
We don’t play for another 4 hours.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
It works out to EVEN on this post Captain Mexico
But CRM is from New York. Did you make an adjustment for the BJF (Bojack Ninny Factor)?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
What does it say about our society where they can make a show called “Men of a Certain Age” and there isn’t even a hint of a gray hair on a single member of the cast? The Golden Girls at least had the decency to be fucking old.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
is it gonna be a dramedy? i have a feeling a lot of the comedy is the old guys shaking their heads at the lazy,crazy, guys their daughters date or their sons “hair-brained schemes”
October 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
great post, CRM.
wish i could say the same about my wagers.
Ole Miss is listless
UCLA led 3-0 at half and is now down 21-3
Ohio State offense is junk
at this rate, LSU will get pulverized. wont be happy with an 0-4…
October 10th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Yes and great observation. He recovered splendidly in that last paragraph even with his homerings of the Yankees afterwards.
From his post of those hot SEC chicks earlier today however, he knows better than to be fooled by bojack East Coast ninnie-bitches of course.
Today’s Factoid: As most ninnie-bitches finished college before 1997, and their mentors came from the era of women in shoulder pads borne out of lesbo-inspired feminism, the rest of us have great hope in the post-Britney Gen Y bunch, for of course true to “Dazed And Confused,” we get older and they stay the same age.
Want proof? A few years after the legacy of the Bangboat, Sugar Daddy is not taboo any more apparently and even on TV ads! http://www.sugardaddy.com
Of course beware the many gold diggers.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Gardenhire could be considered a genius for getting this team to the playoffs. They are terrible, Mauer excluded.
/Not all of the Twins are terrible, but they don’t have a lot of talent…
October 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Looks like both Bama and Oregon are going to cover for me.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
he’s a Marlins fan.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
October 10th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
CRM likes the Yankees? I thought that was hernia.
…or tampa Bo…
October 10th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I will continue to bet against the general public from now until forever. Everyone was on LSU and the line went UP since they announced tebow might play. Gators -8.5 for this bojack ninnie.
/I am going to have two of the worst commenter names ever coming up for the next like 3 months. You’ve been warned.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Wrong black guy
October 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Did I miss anything exciting today - I was busy getting up at the crack of dawn, driving to PSU to watch them play a high school team, and then driving home.
Can’t wait until we play N’western in a few weeks. If we beat them we’ll be Illinois state champs.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Darrell?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Yep. ~65% on LSU and the line has jumped 2.5 points since this morning (and not all of that is the Tebow news, which had to be reasonably expected.)
October 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Who really knows for any such conference battles, but you are correct Jay in that the “People’s Choice” is more often wrong than not for sake of gambling.
Paper LSU +8.5 here before even Tebow showed up. And you are no bojack for making such a pick.
Why TBL Godfather lays out so high on Ohio State to this day I can’t figure out, but he has not lost enough money yet I guess for it to hurt.
1-3 today NCAA so far for me not great, but the better stuff lies ahead tonight anyway and Oregon -5.5 was my biggest paper wager.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I know many of the golf fans aren’t here today, but Stricker/Tiger are putting on a clinic at the Presidents Cup, and most of the work has been done by Stricker
October 10th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ah but the real question is who will be the advertisers?
Will it be akin to during the NFL with endless ads for such products for largely the mid-life crisis set such as Fl0max, Z0c0r, Pepc1d AC, C1al1s, V1agra, Lev1tra, T1nact1n, Lotr1m1n, 0ld Sp1ce, et cetera, or
will they go the 60 Minutes route for such time-tested legends as Bufferin, E+ La+, Gas +, Tums, Dentucreme, Gold Bond Medicated Powder, and Depends or
just have it sponsored by the ubiquitously annoying E+tenze to assist with that “certain part of the male body” again?
/Faking out the annoying filter again
October 10th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
oh good they’re not gonna score with the bases loaded again.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
ITS VICENTE PADILLA!!! HE WAS CUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON BY A CONTENDING TEAM FOR BEING A DRUNK YOU USELESS FUCKS.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
makblunt?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
tarbaby?
/wait, what?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
nice win by OSU, Wisconsin sucked something awful today…
October 10th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Wrong black guy
Darrell?
you mean TampaBo? that guy’s hilarious!
/JPQ’d
//for shatner
October 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Darrell’s black?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
they’ve found you out darell! run!!!
October 10th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I put on Deliverance on HD Movies. All I know is in 3 minutes I wouldn’t wanna be Ned Beatty for all the money in the world
October 10th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Ned Beatty’s very best was in Superman.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
thanks JPQ haha.
Anyone else buying the Marge Simpsons playboy? No?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
sure got a purty mouth
October 10th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
NC State has quite possibly the worst secondary I’ve ever seen. Thad Lewis’s line with 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter: 39/48 for 459 yards and 5 TDs.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Racial profiling on TBL? Well not like that at least. I had no idea who is what ethnic or racial background before, but here we go I guess.
Solid Game
Makblunt
Tampa Bo
Halfway There, Halfway House Otherwise
Jersey Yo
From Al Sharpton’s Chapel/Nation Of Islam Drop Out/Covert Black Panther
Darrell
That’s how it looks after many posts, but I welcome posts to indicate the contrary.
/No HR Department here so get over it you stuffy-assed suburban whyyyte folks
//And no I have as solid info as anyone but Al Cowlings is going to get that OJ didn’t do it you otherwise race-baiters
///Even with Obama we can’t all seem to eat lunch together much less get along
October 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I’ll see you all on the other side. Tell my mother I love her.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
jersey’s half white? Wait, what?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
So, the Cards suck, huh?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
With a name like Tarbaby, I am not sure why that dude was not banned sooner. Anyone who can re-tell the Nick P, aka our “red-headed step child” tale of how he managed to post via two identities and cause a stir? I could not understand it the last time it was explained, but it seemed kind of funny and TBL Godfather is still mad about the whole deal to this very day.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
haha I didn’t know NickP had two names on here
October 10th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
We’re talking about game GSG, of which judging from your lack of contribution to any sports discussion at the very least here you would not know obviously anything about … lest it has to do with Bumfucktucky where you live or the GOP whom you covertly represent when you can here, you never post anything solid on sports …feel free to prove me wrong in due time if not today.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Oh Paolo Paolo Paolo. Just because you go back to the basement to try to find a man in the bushes at the JFK assassination at night and then try to figure out cute new emoticons to end your mindless rants with does not mean that I never have anything to say about sports on here. I can take solice in the fact that at least I don’t act like a five year old child that whines and bitches everytime someone calls him out for not making sense, or even when someone just has a differing opinion. So, I’m going to end this one here, and you can just go back trying to disprove the moonlanding. Have a good day.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
(staunches the flow of blood) so wait, there’s not gonna be a fight? (loosens tourniquet.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
No no fight no point in that …new post anyway
October 10th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Paolo is either the least self-aware person in the world, in which case I feel sorry for him, or the most self-aware person in the world, in which case he’s a legitimate comic genius.