Major Scoop! Oden to Portland! (Tougue Firmly in Cheek)
Uncategorized June 28th. 2007, 3:47pm
Major Scoop! Late Wednesday night, ESPN’s Ric Bucher broke serious news: Portland was drafting Ohio State center Greg Oden with the top pick in the draft.
(Silence. Puzzlement.)
Let’s see here … Wednesday, ornery Sam Smith of the Chicago Tribune claimed there was hand-wringing in Portland about the top pick, and used the word ‘tossup’ and quoted ‘one of the league’s elite personnel executives’ as saying: “A few weeks ago, I would have said it was 100 percent the Trail Blazers took Oden …†but then raved about Durant, “He’s the best player I’ve ever scouted. To me, it’s 50-50 now who goes first.”
Then Bill Simmons and Chad Ford conducted a mock draft where both raved about Durant, with Simmons taking him first. The coup de grace came when another ESPN guy, John Hollinger posted his ‘evaluating the collegians’ piece that fawns over Durant, giving him a ’score’ of 870, which blows everyone else out of the water (Oden was a distant 2nd with a 667).
[Quick word about the 'evaluations': surely Hollinger means well, and it's not a terrible idea to attempt such suchery. However ... we don't think you can crunch numbers in basketball - the ultimate team sport - like you do in baseball. It just doesn't work. The popular Lenovo +/- stat is littered with Suns, Spurs and Mavericks at the top - there's a reason why Devin Harris is 6th in the NBA and Raja Bell is 10th. When erratic Houston point guard Rafer Alston is ahead of League luminaries such as Luol Deng, LeBron James, Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas in anything, you know the stat doesn't mean much. How else to explain that Hollinger had Kyle Visser of Wake Forest rated 15th, Herbert Hill of Providence 16th, and Corey Brewer down at 24 and Nick Young simply in 'notables?' Clearly, Hollinger's got a hard-on for defense ... which in college tends to favor tall players. We're putting zero stock in all of this.]
So it was Bucher to the rescue, ‘breaking’ the news that Oden was going first. Congrats on the scoop, Ric. This has been the worst kept secret in the NBA since the envelope was opened.
In other NBA news …
* Nice to know Bernie Bickerstaff is drunk before the draft.
* Expect Minnesota to screw things up like they always do.
* If you see Allen Iverson’s bodyguards at a club, run the other way. They will kick your ass.
We wanted to write something along these lines the other day – Durant and Oden are the next Larry and Magic. People make proclamations like this frequently, but it actually applies this year.
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June 28th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
ESPN is claiming Oden is the pick however don’t attribute this insider knowledge to anyone, even saying that Kevin Pritchard has not made any announcement. So either the Blazers are lying or he is. My guess is Bucher thinks Oden will be #1, so he decided to be first to “break” the story. He has a 70% chance of being right. If he is wrong, he will just say Portland changed their mind at the last second.
June 28th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
I agree with that completely. I had the same thought last night. He’s taking the same approach newspapers do during presidentail elections. He’s playing the numbers and crossing his fingers.
June 28th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
That Simmons-Ford back and forth was worth it simply for the moment when Ford called Simmons the “Lou Dobbs of sportswriters” because I guess Billy hates every foreign player in the NBA
June 28th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Dobbs’ wife is Mexican-American.
June 28th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
i am late to this party…
what exactly is going on in that picture of mr oden and “friend”?
June 28th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
I liked the whole back and forth between Simmons and Ford. Great that they were picking out old quotes. That Lou Dobbs line was fantastic.
The Hollinger piece worries/confuses me. I want to be more of a stat guy, I really do…..but Corey Brewer seems nasty to me. I know its probably ignorant to think but I’m not ready to give myself totally to a statistical analysis of the draft.
June 28th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Chad Ford this morning said that Pritchard was informed by the ole commish not to announce who they were drafting early, to avoid ruining the suspense of course.
In other funny things that came out of Ford’s piece, Billy Knight wants to get Horford but one of the Owners is pushing for Yi cause he does business in China. Only in Atlanta.
June 28th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
The Amare-Yi stuff is mind-blowing. Writing about it now … will post in an hour or so.
- This is Greg Oden getting his white man’s overbite on with some chick, presumably at a house party in Ohio a year or so ago. Back when he was in his 30s.
- Another reason Hollinger’s stats can’t be taken too seriously: Brewer was on a LOADED team that blew people out. He didn’t get tons of shots or play the minutes of a Stuckey because he was on a team with 2 other first-rounders, an awesome 3-point gunner, and a PG who chucked and may get picked in the 2nd round. How can you take Brewer’s stats into account?
June 28th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Wait, Greg Oden may go #1? Woah, when did that happen? This is certainly breaking news. Especially since everyone knew Oden had a 90% chance of going #1 before his freshman year at Ohio St.
June 28th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
I hope someone has a video camera the first time Greg Oden meets the Sports Guy. (Oh wait, the only time Simmons gets off his couch is to lose money in Vegas.)
Seriously, why does this guy feel the need to bag on Oden so much? It’s gotta be that he has this love affair with Kevin Durant. As I said before, you can’t be fanboy AND pretend to have an intelligent opinion. Fanboy will always be too biased and carry a grudge because of the loyalty to one team or one player. So the Sports Guy has to choose. Is he fanboy or is he columnist with an honest, intelligent opinion?
June 28th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
Reminds me of when you’re watching a blow-out game, and the announcers are all, “hey, you never know…it’s not over ’til it’s over…”
They just don’t want you to change the channel.
June 28th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
I’ve never been able to tell, but does Oden have a mohawk in that picture? I hope so.
June 28th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Its good that no GM or true basketball exec cares about john hollinger’s imaginary stats…meaningless…
June 28th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Chris – Isn’t that Sports Guy’s schtick? Hopeless fanboy? Hasn’t it been that way since day one, hence all the Celtics/BoSox columns?
June 28th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Goathair – no, he has a buzz cut. I think there’s a vent or something behind the railing where his head is at. Look super closely. I noticed when I was squinting hoping to see the chick’s nipples through her dress.
June 28th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
“Chris – Isn’t that Sports Guy’s schtick? Hopeless fanboy? Hasn’t it been that way since day one, hence all the Celtics/BoSox columns?”
Problem is that, lately, he’s trying to become an equal to the (somewhat) objective analysts that ESPN already employs. He needs to stop pretending he’s a GM or that his opinions are well-informed. If he’s fanboy, that’s fine. I think that’s the persona that made him popular in the first place.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
BigLead, if the Hollinger stats are meaningless and biased against good teams, how do you explain Oden and Conley at 2 and 3? In addition to those two, Daequan Cook is 20th. They played on a pretty good team, yet the stats seem to rate them highly. Beyond that obvious discrepancy, your argument that Florida blew out teams thus creating fewer chances for Brewer is also worthless. The stats he used are adjusted for pace and are per minute (i.e. efficient).
I think it is more likely that you are slagging off Hollinger because the two guys you have the biggest hard on for in the draft (Brewer and Young) were rated lowly by his metrics.
By the way, did you see the Brewer measured in under 6′7″? I guess they don’t count the ‘fro when measuring at the combine.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Why do they care? NFL teams make it known from the jump.
Besides, Durant just wants to make sure his dunk rating on 2K is higher than Oden’s, and he’ll be all good.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Fair points, Brandon, but come on – Oden and Conley? Those are can’t miss guys that your grandma knows are going to be studs. No question they should be at the top.
If you were in a hunt in Boliva for the last three years and just got in front of a TV for this past NCAA tournament, you’d easily be able to see who the good prospects on Florida are. Horford is can’t miss, Noah has zero offensive game, Brewer is going to be nasty, and Green is a chucker.
Cook has athletic talent … but zero outside shot. He’s like a shoter version of Desmond Mason.
As for Young, only time will tell. Maybe Hollinger is right. Or maybe if Young played on Eastern Washington, he would have pumped in 25 a night.
Still … Kyle Visser????
June 29th, 2007 at 2:57 am
Gotta do the research TBL. Cook shot over 40% from behind the arc last year. His big problem is that he’s an awful, awful passer – if he ever passes at all. Apparently, Miami didn’t see that. He won’t be a good pro. He hated the bench at OState and he’ll hate it on South Beach.
In 18 months Cook will prepping for a season in the D-League.