The Clueless AP Voters Continue to Poop on Boise State as the Major Programs Duck the Broncos
1-liner, College Football, Media Gossip/Musings November 5th. 2009, 11:00amNo Love for Boise State: There were eight AP college football voters who ranked Oregon ahead of Boise State this week. Clearly, they forgot that the Broncos are not only unbeaten, but that they defeated Oregon in the season opener. Worse yet, Boise State is reaching out to the creme de la creme of college football in an effort to pick up a game in 2010. The Broncos aren’t even asking for a home game in return. And still, nobody will play them. Boise State should just name names of who is ducking them. Altogether now, Playoff! Playoff! Playoff [Idaho Statesman]
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November 5th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Before you chant playoff, playoff, please read the first few paragraphs of Stewie’s mailbag.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/11/04/mailbag/index.html
November 5th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Fuck Boise St. until they play 2 big out of conference games to make sure they arent frauds.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:04 am
I’m sure it’s a lot more complicated than any of us are aware of, but this would be halarious.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I think the whole point of this post is that they’re trying to.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Probably because Oregon is the better team.
Well, it certainly isn’t UC-Davis.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Before you chant playoff, playoff, please read the first few paragraphs of Stewie’s mailbag.
/Yup.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Boise ST. has to join a big time conference, plain and simple. It is a lose-lose to play againt them unless you have to within conference play.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:07 am
That isn’t possible.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
it’s not the 2010 schedule they’re working on. it’s 2011
/RIF’d
November 5th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Boise ST. has to join a big time conference, plain and simple. It is a lose-lose to play againt them unless you have to within conference play.
Seconded. The scheduling and the bowls are not the problem, the real issue is the completely byzantine conference structure and rules. I say do what MLB did when they eliminated the individual league offices. Centralize authority and scheduling within the NCAA and that goes a long way (but not all the way I know) to bringing a more or less level playing field. It will go a long way towards helping teams in a shitty conference prove themselves with the established programs.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:09 am
The proof is in the pudding.
/please ignore head-to-head
November 5th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Tulsa isn’t big?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
It’s 2011.
Really? Cuz here’s what they have set up already OOC. Incredibly frightening sched.
@ Toledo
vs. Tulsa
vs. Utah
vs. Wyoming
November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Scheduling college football games isn’t as easy as scheduling a game against some of the neighborhood kids up the road. There are contracts involved, buyouts, issues with bye weeks, etc. It’s not that easy.
Plus that game will be Boise’s Super Bowl and the BCS team they play will have the game wedged in between two other bruising conference games.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
because they beat Oregon in week 1?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Didn’t UGA play Boise St. a few years ago? I seem to recall that working out well for the Broncos. Also, programs like Georgia Tech are putting more SEC teams on the schedule (Miss. St. and Vandy this year, LSU and Alabama coming up), so why would they put Boise on there instead?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:11 am
I really tried to pick up a hot chick that is on the local news one night. I failed. Should I get to date Rachel Bilson because of it?
Come to think of it, yeah, I should. Go Boise!
/seriously, you can’t compare Oregon and Boise’s overall resumes. Oregon wins.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:11 am
is this sarcastic or are you being serious?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:12 am
/hasn’t watched an Oregon or Boise St game since Sep 3rd
November 5th, 2009 at 11:12 am
i dont think the sec claims these teams anymore. maybe vandy when gpas come out.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:13 am
The only conference that would make sense is the Pac-10, and that’s not happening. They need to join the MWC with Fresno St and another team (Nevada, Hawaii, or Houston) and you would think that would be enough for an auto bid. You’d think.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Like Oklahoma > Texas?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
like Notre Dame > Michigan?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Eh, I’ve been wrong before and I’m sure it’ll happen again later today.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Thus, BYU>>>>Florida St. ???
November 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
They need to join the pac 10. So does Utah. Pac 12 action baby!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
A plus-one would solve a lot of problems. Not all of them, but many.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Like Mich St > Central Michigan?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Pac-10 isn’t letting them in.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
no, no not like that at all.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Purdue killed Oregon AT Oregon at night, but choked like the pathetic dogs they are and lost 38-36 at the end. Not a ringing endoresment. On the other hand, I hope Boise State gets what they deserve come Bowl time for playing no one.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Boise State is playing Virginia Tech at FedEx field in DC on October 2nd.
Thats a big time game, that is being played at a neutral site but there will be 70,000 VT fans packed into that shit hole stadium.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Tampa, just noticed the gravatr. That a boy.
/Vader Fist Pump! Yeah!!!
//I’d still fuck her
///Tampa Bo’d/Philips’d
November 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Prude bitches.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Boise ST. has to join a big time conference, plain and simple.
Like the Big Ten? Or the Big East?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I’m saying head-to-head supersedes resume. Boise State shut down Oregon and that “vaunted” Ducks offense. It was by double-digits, I believe, and Oregon only scored once.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Yes they should make a Pac-12. Then every other year Oregon and USC can duck each other.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
vs. Wyoming
So Boise St sched = Texas sched? Not surprised.
Oregon IS a better team than Boise St, but the BCS better keep Boise above Oregon, as long as Boise is undefeated, or swallow their arrogance and admit their current system is the woat.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
This game should count as two losses.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Rankings are based on merit, it’s not really a list of teams best to worst. So right now Oregon might be the better team and would probably beat Boise St. in a rematch. But Boise St. deserves to be ranked ahead of them due to already having beat them.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am
/hasn’t watched an Oregon or Boise St game since Sep 3rd
//repeated for emphasis
November 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
You CANNOT put Oregon in front of Boise St…this is not like last year’s iron triangle between Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma (love how EVERYONE neglects to mention Tech in that argument).
Sucks for Oregon, but hey, they should’ve beaten Boise.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
The last time Alabama traveled outside of their time zone for a non-conference game was 2002 (they lost).
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
What Boise really needs to do is become independent in football. They would then have control over all 12 games and would increase their SOS rapidly. They can’t count on the WAC to improve and they certainly can’t wait out a BCS league to join then.
The other option is to join the Mountain West, which the MWC should be open to. That would immediately make that league better than the Big East. BCS tie in or not, going unbeaten in a MWC that includes Boise would garner serious respect.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
This was my favorite sentence in the article.
Oregon chose Boise State. Texas chose Louisiana-Monroe, Wyoming, UTEP. Hence, Texas will play in the BCS Championship. This system sucks.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
19-8
/head to head
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
YES! It was a head to head match-up!!! It doesn’t matter what week it took place. Boise St > Oregon because Boise St beat mother fucking Oregon! It can’t be that hard to understand this concept.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:27 am
no…UT sucks.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Duh. I still don’t understand why it is so hard to explain to people that when one side gets beat by another, the other side is better, period.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
im sorry, it’s just not that simple.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
its not like boise won in the last seconds. they dominated that game.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:29 am
The your “play-off” concept is just too difficult to work…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Then they wouldn’t be able to get into any BCS bowl unless the BCS renegotiated there contract. Only Notre Dame can get in as an independent currently. It would also be much harder to schedule home games if they were an independent, and they would lose out on the money by being affiliated with a conference. IE revenue sharing.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Mack > Tressel
November 5th, 2009 at 11:31 am
The last time Alabama traveled outside of their time zone for a non-conference game was 2002 (they lost).
I’ve managed to black out (most of) the Price/Shula era from my memory, so I don’t follow.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Oregon beat (and smoked) 3 teams currently ranked in the BCS Top 25: USC, Cal and Utah.
Also, Oregon’s loss to Boise State isn’t that bad, considering that they’re a Top 25 team.
Also, Oregon’s 3 OOC games were to tough oppenents (something the SEC or Big 10 or Big 12) would never do: Utah, Purdue and Boise State.
At some point, you have to stop considering head to head results, or Mississippi would’ve been ranked higher than Florida last year.
To quote the great AP voter, John Wilner:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2009/11/01/my-ap-top-25-football-poll-week-nine-ducks-soar-bama-falls-from-no-1/
“Here’s my longstanding approach to head-to-head results:
They count a ton in the immediate aftermath of the matchup, but as the weeks go by and each team adds to its resume (for better or worse), the weight of the head-to-head result diminishes.
If I’m evaluating two teams and the resumes are comparable, then I always give the edge to the head-to-head winner.
But we have reached the point with Boise State and Oregon that the resumes are not comparable — they ARE NOT CLOSE to comparable.
Of Boise State’s seven victories, five have come against FCS teams or FBS teams with three wins or less (i.e., the dregs).
The Broncos have beaten one team with six wins or more (i.e., the elite): Oregon.
Meanwhile, the Ducks are, best I can tell, the only team in the country other than USC to have three victories over FBS teams with six wins or more (Utah, Cal and the Trojans).
The quality of Oregon’s victories now exceeds that of Boise State’s to the point that it offsets the head-to-head result from two months ago.
In fact, the quality of the Ducks’ victories also gives them the edge over Alabama and Florida, even though those teams are unbeaten. (There’s more to evaluating a resume than record. Because of the disparity in schedules, you have to take the quality of wins and losses into account.)”
November 5th, 2009 at 11:32 am
In what universe?
/Mack is a fucking terrible coach
November 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
no…UT sucks.
While UT is rebuilding this year under the Kiffin administration, Texas does suck.
/real UT’d
//you’re welcome miz
November 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Oregon didn’t have a choice but to choose BSU. The Pac-10 isn’t good enough to move someone up the rankings unless they play a tough OOC game.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Breaking News: Purdue is in the Big 10!!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Hmm. Tuscaloosa is in the same time zone as Atlanta now? Didn’t know that.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Oregon looks nothing like the team that played Boise St in week one. They’re legit now.
/seen them in person
November 5th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Good point, but…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Every game*** is a playoff game in College Football.
*Unless it’s in week 1
**or week 2-8
***Or if the team you lose to becomes really good
November 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
You don’t fucks wit Mack Brown.
/spits
November 5th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Agree.
/seen them on TV.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
i think when people say this, they mean more than just an hour.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
lanalana55,
I think it would be debatable if Boise St had 1 loss and they and Oregon would be equals record-wise. But as it stands, BSU is undefeated and deserves to be ranked ahead of a team they defeated.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Spurious argument: Ole Miss had a worse record than Florida. I don’t care about strength of resume…if one team beat the other, and hasn’t lost a game, it is better than the other team. This isn’t subjective, it’s using the fucking head to head results available. Boise State hasn’t lost, and they beat Oregon, therefore they are ranked ahead of Oregon.
And Purdue is not a tough game, even if Oregon struggled to beat them at home.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
boise and oregon would both beat the shit out of bama
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Iowa is better than both.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
/ducks
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
tOSU disagrees with this statement.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
and im sorry, but if the loss occurred at the end of the seasons, it’d be one thing.
boise beating oregon in week 1 leaves room for a whole lot of other things to develop. oregon has proven that they’re not the same team since then…boise has proven…well, nothing, really.
i have no love for boise whatsoever. sure, it might be hard to schedule top opponents, but is it THAT hard that EVERY top team doesn’t wanna play you? im sure someone would jump at the chance other that oregon.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
And Purdue is not a tough game, even if Oregon struggled to beat them at home.
Purdue choked away a win last year also…at home. Should have beat them both times, but instead lost both
/pathetic losers
November 5th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Every game*** is a playoff game in College Football.
*Unless it’s in week 1
**or week 2-8
***Or if the team you lose to becomes really good
very nice.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:40 am
go fuck yourself.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:40 am
agreed word this.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
False on the money front. The WAC isn’t getting much in the way of revenue. Their TV package is a joke (and entirely Boise driven) and the Bowl money is almost entirely Boise driven. Every school could get more TV and bowl revenue as an independent.
The BCS is up for a change in like 4 years. If Boise really cares about being a football power, they’re pushing for ND status as an independent or sucking the cock of every MWC president. Probably both to be safe. Staying in the WAC will get them nothing, and it will be deserved. Want to play with the big boys you have to act like a big boy.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
You mean more than a one hour difference? That pretty much leaves one time zone available for Alabama, and there’s only a handful (being generous here) of teams worth traveling to play in that time zone.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
boise and oregon would both beat the shit out of bama
Here we go… bring that weak ass, west coast, lightweight bullshit on. Mclain would kill half of those pussies alone.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
They’re offering a no-return trip game and no one’s biting…so yes, no one wants to play them.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Boise should be playing for a national championship, but this crap about Oregon should be ahead of them is ridiculous. If Boise’s schedule won’t allow them to play for a championship, then the team that lost to Boise certainly shouldn’t be either. Oregon’s a good team, definitely the class of the Pac-10. BUT…they lost to Boise…unless Boise loses, Oregon should be behind them.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Here we go… bring that weak ass, west coast, lightweight bullshit on. Mclain would kill half of those pussies alone.
as long as its not the Utes right?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Boise St had 3 TO’s and looked like dog shit at home. I think it is pretty clear…people that actually have watched BSU and UO play since the beginning of the year agree that UO is better and can make an argument for UO being ranked higher. People that choose to not watch any game west of UT/OU don’t get it and never will.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
This is funny. Fear the Utes!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
The only reason I won’t cosign this is because I really want to see Iowa beat the big NAMES in college football. I demand my cfb with chaos damn it.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
/this
November 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am
as long as its not the Utes right?
bama was devastated after the UF loss. I blame Saban for not getting the boys up. Besides, Utah is always going to play like a team, all their players are from the same compound.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am
So having 3 TO’s at home and winning 19-8 (19-0 until 4 minutes left in the 4th) is worse than barely beating Purdue at home 38-36?
Glad to know.
/BOISE FUCKING BEAT OREGON
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
if oregon wins out they could have an argument because they have some tough games left. but right now boise should be ranked higher because they embarassed oregon head to head.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
/fixed
/would you know this if it weren’t for the internet? What did you think of Oregon’s performance against Cal? How about Boise State’s game against Tulsa?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
If you discount head to head match-ups, then you can’t be pro play-off.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I fail to see how the regular season is a playoff of sorts if Boise isn’t always ahead of Oregon if they remain unbeaten. I’m not a fan of a major program so maybe someone can explain this to me.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
19-8 isn’t dominating? did you watch the game? look at the stats?
Oregon couldn’t move the football. When you dont get a first down in the first half, you’re getting dominated.
A few offensive miscues by Boise prevented it from being a blowout.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
If you discount head to head match-ups, then you can’t be pro play-off.
Wouldn’t it be the opposite? By taking the “body of work” approach I am advocating playoff for those deserving, while “h2h” is the more rigid and BCS related approach. (And right one to use in the BSU/UO debate)
November 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am
well…might as well have washington over USC then.
wait, you mean you’re still ranking USC over washington? why? is it because of their better overall resume? yes…yes it is.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I think Oregon is better now, but they lost to the wrong team, sorry, thats how it goes sometimes. Boise has to lose before you can rank Oregon ahead of them, and since Boise prob isn’t going any higher than 6, neither is Oregon.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
*- Unless your special teams returns two kicks for touchdowns.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
/looks at the Jets > Dolphins crowd
November 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
And better record.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Watched the game, TBL. Seen the stats. That was an ugly game by both teams and if you want to make that argument…
Oregon’s offense struggled no doubt but let’s not pretend like BSU’s offense dominated either. BSU’s offense was just less awful. Typical sloppy early season game by both teams.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
/would you know this if it weren’t for the internet? What did you think of Oregon’s performance against Cal? How about Boise State’s game against Tulsa?
forgot to add “Did I just blow your mind?”
I could care less about either team, but I agree w/ coop: Oregon may be better right now, but they picked the wrong team to lose to. If you are down to an “either/or”, it’s hard not to pick the one team that beat the other (esp pretty handily)
November 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
you don’t even have to look at their resume – just their record. and since Boise State has a better record and a head-to-head victory over Oregon, they stay ahead. it’s simple phonics, really.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
wait, you mean you’re still ranking USC over washington? why? is it because of their better overall resume? yes…yes it is.
Isn’t USC’s record significantly better? It is? Thanks.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
YEA BUT WASHINGTON BEAT USC!!!
bottom line…oregon’s TOTAL BODY OF WORK is far better than boise’s.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Interesting thought. Lets see how other sports solve their playoff seedings in the results of ties….
November 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Didn’t watch it. But this is worth 2 losses.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
it’s not because boise hasn’t played anyone good outside of oregon while oregon has taken on a bunch of quality teams.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Let’s see, I watched Boise dominate Oregon, I watched Cal struggle with an inferior Minnesota team before getting blown out by Oregon (hey look, CAL’s overrated again…that didn’t take long). I saw parts of the Tulsa win where Boise looked vulnerable on the road but still pulled off the win against a mediocre, but not terrible Tulsa team, and I watched Oregon put the smack down on USC. So yes, I’m fairly confident in my opinion that BOISE BEAT OREGON.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
damn, late to this party…effing work.
ill, I heard a stat the other day that Saban teams are 11-10 after bye weeks. not a good omen for the LSeaUx game this week.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Yeah, but what about the stats? NEED MORE STATS!
Hah. Did you keep a straight face while typing this? If so, I am never playing poker with you.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Agreed. Their strength of schedule is much better. So what if they lost head to head. Reminds me of last year when OU had a stronger SOS than Florida.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
A conference road win with their backup QB?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
As a Pac-10 fan, I object.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
You shouldnt its where I make most of my income. (Make the rest whoring myself out)
November 5th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
November 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Might be true, but since head to head doesn’t matter Bama should be number 1, because they’re better and would have won if they had scored more points than the other team.
/sometimes you kids are just stoopid
November 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Oregon got dominated in losing by 11 to BSU. Cal struggled with Minnesota and won by 14. Minnesota is inferior but is going to make a bowl game out of the Big-10. Tulsa is mediocre but is more than likely going to miss a bowl game out of Conference USA. Your logic? Epic fail.
my ability to use block quotes correctly? epic fail.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Head to head trumps all. Oregon has ZERO argument to play for a title over Boise. The Broncos embarrassed the Ducks well before they embarrassed themselves (Blount). That game was not close at all. I don’t care who Oregon beats from here on out. If Boise is 12-0, they are ahead of Oregon. I can’t believe people are forgetting the Texas hose job last year.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
119 comments? So much for TBL’s theory that no teams other than Notre Dame and USC move the needle.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Totally agree. That game was awful on both sides. At one point there were three straight fumbles/recoveries by the opposite team. How exactly is that a dominating performance?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Oregon had 5 three and outs in 5 first half series’. But yeah, since it happened in week-one it shouldn’t matter.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
The point is moot for Boise if TCU runs the table as they will be higher and just might sneak into the 4-spot which would guarantee them a BCS bowl.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
That’s code for using steriods, right?
I can’t wait to tell everyone at work what I just read on the internet.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
By the way, I don’t think Boise should be ranked below Oregon. I just think if Oregon played Boise this week instead of in week 1, Boise would lose by 3 TDs.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
119 comments? So much for TBL’s theory that no teams other than Notre Dame and USC move the needle.
lefty: to be fair, half are Quizz trying to refute the 30 people who keep telling him he’s full of shit, but he keeps trying
I’m not a college football expert, but when NO ONE on here supports your position, it’s time to bail on the position
November 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Teaching moment. Alabama is CST, Atlanta is in the EST.
The more you know.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
this is retarded. Boise destroyed them. The only TD Oregon scored was in the 4th qtr. The Ducks might win a rematch, but by 3 tds? No way.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
YOU of all people are calling me retarded? That’s fucking hysterical!
November 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
then what the hell are you doing making comments on this blog?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
what makes you think boise is good?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Hysterics aside, Boise isn’t losing to a team they match up well with by 3 tds.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
A 20 minute flight to a neutral site game. But at least you understand nuance.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Spencer: they are a pretty good team. They have a solid o-line and a great QB. But they match up well with Oregon. I don’t know if they’d beat Oregon again, but they aren’t losing by 3 tds.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
You guys are pretty hard core about your neutral field time zones.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
I’m not a college football expert
then what the hell are you doing making comments on this blog?
because with age comes self-awareness, something most people on here have little of.
A 20 minute flight to a neutral site game. But at least you understand nuance.
says the guy who’s team plays NINE home games in state, and travels all the way to Wyoming to play that powerhouse
November 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
jpq you thought that was a serious question? we are ALL experts.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
duder: I knew it wasn’t. I just felt like adding my air of superiority to the comments
/sarcacism’d
November 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Not the only person that supports that position, clearly. And for the record I don’t mean to support Oregon, it just happened. I was basically trying to condemn Boise St. No team should ever be near the top 10 with that schedule. They nearly literally only have to show up to ONE GAME ALL YEAR. That’s it. Oregon has to bring it every week this year outside of one game, Washington State. Oregon and Boise St have bizarro schedules.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Boise State is their own worst enemy when it comes to scheduling. The top tier SEC, Big 10, and Big 12 teams will never play Boise State because it is a lose lose for them. If they win they’re supposed to, if they lose they’re out of the title race. Now that Boise is a viable opponent it further decimates them. Why would teams play a home game against a WAC opponent? It’s a crap shoot whether that win even helps those teams. Might as well take the guaranteed win
Sure Boise could play the Minnesotas, Northwesterns, Washington states of the world but then people keep pointing out they didn’t play anyone. Boise also can’t get into a conference because every other BCS conference doesn’t need a member or is too far away.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
This may very well be, but again, rankings are about merit-not neccesarily who’s better than who.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I agree with all that rs27, but maybe Boise just needs to realize that they are a tiny school in the middle of nowhere. Stop acting like you (by you I mean Boise) “deserve” something or that youre more important than you are. You are a nobody, enjoy a little exposure every now and then, but stop acting like you matter, athletically or academically.
Thats what bothers me, other schools (like TCU) go about their business and play good football, occasionally play big schools, but dont act like they deserve more than they’ve got.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
When comparing Boise to any school other than Oregon, strength of schedule is a valid point. But to ignore the fact that Boise defeated Oregon is ludicrist.
/tyson’d
November 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Listen to Cabbage. He is wise beyond his (many, many) years.