The MLB Free Agents Are Irrelevant, Focus On Trades
Baseball, Hot Stove November 10th. 2009, 2:00pm
MLB Trade Rumors released their top 50 Free Agents List. It’s as titillating as a memoir of A.C. Green’s sexcapades. Matt Holliday, the top rated player, can’t hack it in the American League. John Lackey, the top rated pitcher, has missed 15 starts with arm trouble the past two seasons and been relevant for Cy Young voting once. Marco effing Scutaro cracked the top ten.
These free agents will be hyped, to talk about something, but none of them will dramatically affect a team’s ability to win the World Series. Teams have less money than last winter, a year into a depression rather than anticipating one. The story of the offseason will be trades, not free agents. Here are three players likely to move.
Adrian Gonzalez: In four seasons with the Padres, Gonzalez has put up a 138 OPS+ and hit 130HR in a terrible hitters park. He’s 27. An AL park could convert him into the incredible hulk, without adjusting his cap size. He makes only $10.75 million, for the next two seasons. His low salary makes him desirable. It also gives San Diego leverage, because it’s not essential to trade him.
According to the media they manipulate, the Red Sox tried for Gonzalez last season. Boston looks less probable now though, as the Padres hired Red Sox assistant GM Jed Hoyer, who can call Theo’s bullshit. Gonzalez would be perfect for San Francisco, but it’s unclear how Brian Sabean rates him on grit and veteran wizardry. He’s no Freddy Sanchez.
Roy Halladay: Halladay’s arguably the best pitcher in baseball. He has pitched 220 innings the past four seasons and been in the top five for Cy Young votes. 2008 and 2009 may have been his best two seasons. He’s a consistently better version of CC Sabathia without the weight issue.
The Blue Jays will want young, cost-friendly talent. Halladay has a no-trade clause and will want to go to a contender. The Phillies have the prospects and the impetus to win now, with a World Series window closing. The bullpen is important, but so is the fact that their top two starters in October were not their top two starters in April last season.
Carl Crawford: He’s a tremendous athlete who will give you .300/.350/.450, hit 15 HR and steal 50 bases. Tampa Bay picked up his $10 million option, but he becomes a free agent after this season. They have 22-year-old Desmond Jennings ready to replace him.
Though 2008 was a watershed, the Rays face two realities. They don’t have fans. They don’t have a real stadium to make them financially viable. If they can cut significant salary (one-sixth of their payroll), without substantially harming the present they need to do it.
Crawford is athletic and makes things happen. He’s built for the post-steroid era. He has value now, and he may have even more in July. That would also let the fiendish Rays screw Jennings out of a year of service time. What contending team would dimiss a reasonably priced corner outfield upgrade?
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November 10th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
We’re in a depression? And if we are, were we not already there last winter?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
How did boy wonder miss out on Hardy. Or did he get outbid (Gomez, really?)
November 10th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
They don’t have a real stadium to make them financially viable
can you elaborate on that Duffy?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
i plan on following the mets closely … since the yankees wont be doing much.
lotta talk about the mets and lackey v. Halladay. if they dont get either, could be a long year 2 in that new stadium.
not sure where the power comes from, either … Delgado’s a dinosaur, and wright lost his power, so they need holliday or bay. miss on those 2 and …
hahahahaha
November 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I’m pretty sure that were never in a depression, but rather a severe recession.
/doesn’t change your point, I know
November 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I’ve been trying to find my boy Roy a new home and my research indicates that Philly, Texas & Tampa have the best assets to offer up in return.
For once, the Yankees and Red Sox probably aren’t in the conversation since they don’t have the young pieces it would take to land him. Boston is allegedly making a push but what do the have to offer? Clay Buchholz? Please. Lars Andersen? No thanks.
The Jays need to do this right as a fuck up in this situation could be a franchise killer.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
He had an .831 OPS (120 OPS+) in Oakland (a tough place for any hitter). Plus he’s a notoriously slow starter who was on a tear the few weeks prior to the trade to STL. I wouldn’t count him out if he ends up in the AL.
And Lackey could help a ton of teams, especially in the playoffs. He’d be the #1 or #2 starter anywhere he ends up.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Ty Duffy isnt race baiting? Im not interested.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
irishmafia, just saw your post in the Simers thread. thanks for the welcome.
I have a hard time believing the Phillies would give up more prospects in return for Halladay. That idea was thrown around on local radios after they traded for Cliff Lee. would love to see the move, but I can’t see them parting with Drabek/Taylor/Brown.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
recession is actually “over” as the GDP was up in Q3 of this year for the 1st time in a year
November 10th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Also, I’d give up Drabek and Happ for Halladay.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Delgado is a FA.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
The Mets are way, way beyond a one year fix. They have to make some major trades – I’m willing to bet they’re hoping Reyes is his old self just so he can be dealt at the deadline.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Plus he had the equivalent of the 1998 Twins lineup hitting around him. Not sure I buy the whole “Holliday sucks in the AL” angle quite yet.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
This was news 3 weeks ago. Where do you get your news? The same place TBL finds out about music?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I like both guys but I doubt that will be enough.
I’ve heard a couple of local media guys say the Jays would jump at a Desmond Jennings + Wade Davis offer if the Rays were serious about competing right now.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
i don’t buy this completely. you have as many as 3 spots open in the rotation right now.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Delgado is a FA.
He barely knows about his own team, can’t expect him to know about the one next door.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Spin magazine?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Everything I’ve read indicates the Jays can expect less than they were offered at the trade deadline this year, not more, so I think it’s sort of a dream that some superstud package is going to fall into the Jays lap unless some team gets irrationally desperate.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Also heard the Jays might consider bringing Delgado back as a DH in a Seattle-Griffey type move.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Alright peeps… I’m taking the dog and heading into the West Virginia wilderness for 3 days. May all your teams lose to mine in my absence.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I like both guys but I doubt that will be enough.
Unless the Phillies have for some reason soured on one or both of these guys why would they give up more for Halladay now then they were willing to give up in July? And why would the Jays reasonably be expecting more than they were able to get for one season then they were able to get for a season and a 1/2?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I agree. I’m not holding my breath for Jennings/Davis but I think Drabek/Happ is low-balling it a bit. I don’t see a guy like Happ being effective in the AL East.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
This is like Jim Rice being called “the most feared hitter of his era.” It’s nonsense Murray Chass sportswriter words that don’t mean anything. You were making a good point with Crawford and then you made me sad.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I think expectations have been adjusted. The asking price at the deadline was basically three players with lots of upside. I think they would settle for two at this point. One absolutely has to be a pitcher though.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Agreed on the Jays end for the Phillies trade (I don’t like either of those guys long term). The Rays thing would be the action of a desperate franchise that thinks they’re window is closing forever. It’s not impossible, but they seem too smart to do it.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I’m not saying the Phillies should give up that much, I’m saying as a fan I would because I think Halladay gives the Phillies the next World Series, and if they resigned Lee and Halladay after 2010 season the one after that as well.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Wang will be back to 2006 level.
/hopefully
November 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
/fixed
//Ill gets fucked by Cal Ripken in the woods
November 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
/hopefully
Hear they will release Wang.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Somebody was arguing it’s a foregone conclusion they’re in the Series next year anyway.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Perhaps, but if they go I’d like to win.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Happ has pitched one year so far but it has already been determined he is no match for the mighty nl east. please. if the phils offered drabek and happ that shit would get done.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
sorry al east
November 10th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
As a Phillies fan, I don’t really want Halladay. Getting back to the World Series next year is not something that I hope they make their top priority. The whole window is closing thing is bullshit because it only closes if they trade a bunch of prospects for Halladay.
I realize Howard-Rollins-Utley aren’t young, but if they don’t take on Halladay’s salary and keep prospects it gives them a lot more room to make moves when you do have to face moving on from the current core of players.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Getting back to the World Series next year is not something that I hope they make their top priority.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Cant believe Pat Burrell is under contract for one more year. that loser needs to retire
November 10th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
irish next year .265 32 bombs and 85 rbis
November 10th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I don’t want them to make one more WS appearance and then have to go through a huge overhaul/rebuilding. They’ve been to two WS and won one of them, I want the priority to be more long term competitiveness.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
It hasn’t been determined that he can’t do it but he doesn’t project well. He didn’t stick in the majors until this year and he just turned 27. He benefitted from a low BABIP and his strikeout rate isn’t great even when you include the freebies that he gets for facing pitchers.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
irish next year .265 32 bombs and 85 rbis
he needs juice to put up those numbers again
November 10th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I think with Amaro at the helm and with Gillick still giving him some insight, that Phils’ fans dont need to worry about going back to the late 90s type of funk, I think Ruben is pretty good at executing the right moves.
side bar on burrell. after he left that thank you note in the daily news, me and a couple buddies went to the on deck game at camden yards where they were playing the rays. we got there a little early to try and score some autographs from him, but he was a total cock. so we just got drunk and heckled orioles fans in our phillies jerseys.
let the “philadelphia fans are the worst” comments ensue.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
If the Phillies were to sign Chone Figgins, it would most certainly affect their ability to win the 2010 World Series.
As for Halladay, if the Phillies get in that sweepstakes, there is ZERO doubt that Cole Hamels is involved. Only way Phils will make a move for Roy is if they get him to agree to an extension right off the bat.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
yea i just threw that line out there for a reaction. i don’t see it happening
November 10th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
yea i just threw that line out there for a reaction. i don’t see it happening
one of the worst FA signings of all time
November 10th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Which Chone Figgins? The one who has missed like 100 games to injury the past three seasons? The one with a career OPS+ of 99? Or the one who, over the course of his career, has been caught stealing more than 1/3 of the time and isn’t getting any quicker at 31?
November 10th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
really Duffy? You’re going to trash Chone Figgins? How abotu the guy with the .395 OBP last year who was a +16 with the glove. That Chone Figgins is the guy I want.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Does he make or break a World Series run for a good team?
November 10th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Spending habits lag behind economic improvement. The fact that Q3 GDP went up doesn’t affect last season’s baseball revenue.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Duffy- have you ever been to the Trop?
November 10th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
What I should have written was “he’s built to be valued in the post-steroid era.” Teams aren’t as clouded by the home run. Baseball is shifting from steroids and station to station. So Crawford’s speed, defense etc trumps up his value.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Is this a trick question? If he does that (which I admit he probably won’t) of course he would.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Yes
November 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
also, Crawford is the most overrated player (non Ryan Howard division) in baseball.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
also, Crawford is the most overrated player (non Ryan Howard division) in baseball
really?
November 10th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
@duffy- its not that bad
November 10th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Fetch, it’s pretty funny to defend Chone Figgins in the same thread your trashing Carl Crawford.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
irish- he’s been a great defender the past couple years, but he’s just not a great hitter. His value is based on his batting average, which fluxuates so much
November 10th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
@fetch- i hear ya on that. as long as we have Longoria, ill be happy
November 10th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I’m not trashing Crawford gooch – I’m saying there is a gap between his real and perceived value, same as there is with Figgins. I think Crawford is the better player, although Figgins plays the more important position, but only Figgins is available as a free agent.
Irish – Longoria is the man. Definitely deserved the gold glove this year.
November 11th, 2009 at 1:11 am
I’d be worried about the part where his OPS in Coors is about 250 points than it is anywhere else.