Can Nate Silver Predict the 2010 World Cup?
Soccer, Stats, World Cup November 11th. 2009, 3:00pm
Statistical guru Nate Silver, known previously for his work with baseball (PECOTA) and the 2008 election (fivethirtyeight.com) has unveiled a Soccer Power Index (SPI) for ESPN. Rating international teams ahead of the 2010 World Cup, Silver’s goal is to “provide the best possible objective representation of a team’s current overall skill level.”
Essentially, the system calculates team performance, by weighting matches based on a competitiveness coefficient. It also inputs as much international and club-based player data to provide accurate ratings and assess a country’s overall ability, trying to project future performance rather than merely rating the past. Full explanation here.
The SPI has weaknesses which are acknowledged. International teams do not play many meaningful matches. Soccer also doesn’t have many statistics, at least ones that are made readily available. Those statistics it does have don’t necessarily indicate anything.
Michael Owen scores goals at a high rate making his numbers look awesome, but he does nothing else. He doesn’t create space. He forces his team to play in a way to facilitate him. He may score more goals than Striker X, but Striker X may do more away from the ball to make the team better. He’s earned fame and fortune. He’s won the Ballon D’Or. But, it’s worth noting Liverpool, Real Madrid, Newcastle and England all played better after he left.
As in most sports, soccer analysts unduly credit talent and individual agency over tactics. The current German squad has one player playing outside Germany, Michael Ballack. The French squad contains regulars at the top clubs in Europe (Barcelona, Real Madrid Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea). Despite the talent disparity, Germany would be favored.
Lionel Messi and Steven Gerrard don’t undergo mysterious transformations when they put on the national team jerseys. Their national teams just don’t play systems as complimentary to them as their club teams.
The ratings seem fair so far. Few would seriously question the top five: Brazil, Spain, England, Netherlands and Argentina. The one mild shock is that it promotes a few Non-European sides. Chile, Uruguay and Ivory Coast are all in the Top 11, while Italy and Croatia are excluded.
Will it be as accurate as Silver’s election predictions? Probably Not. But it should improve on the asinine and irrelevant FIFA rankings.
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November 11th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
That Brazillian chick is smoking hot. Seriously, do they grow on trees down there?
I saw this on ESPN.com and was thrilled that soccer was getting some pub. The World Cup cannot get here fast enough. Best sporting event in the world, and it’s not even close.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Thank you for that picture
November 11th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I bet if Jimmy the Greek was still alive he could.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Fuck you, Bo. That was my line.
/Stomps feet
//Throws hissy fit
///Good one, Bo
November 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
That tan line is reckless.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
You can add Clint Dempsey to that one.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Beat me to it, Hernia.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Brazil Porn is the best.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I’ve got to get to Brazil before my life ends.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I’m married. My time came and went.
/hang head and cries
November 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Brazil Porn is the best.
10 years ago I went to Chicago to see some college friends. They kept saying, “We’re heading over to Kenny’s to watch Brazilian porn.” I was like what the fuck, I came to Chicago to party and hang out and we’re going to some guy’s apartment to watch porn? Holy shit, Brazilian porn something else. I know all those chicks are high on coke and ether, but damn, that’s some weird shit.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Yup. Thinking the same thing.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
I’ll bite, exactly what is so different about Brazilian porn?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
go on.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
How is it different than regular porn?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Spencer & GoTG – It’s my turn to use theh brain today
November 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
This has the possibility to surpass the ass caliper as the best threadjack of all time. OF ALL TIME!
November 11th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
when i gave it back to you last week, did it smell like bong water?
/spilled bong water on the community brain
November 11th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
How do the ratings account for France’s coach, Raymond Domenech? While France may have more pure talent than Germany, Domenech is an idiot! He like to consult his players horoscopes when putting together his starting lineup!
/true story’d
November 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
I think it’s a South America thing. I can’t link it from work, but coedmagazine.com has a RIDICULOUS gallery of Chilean chicks right now. Highly recommend.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Cosigned.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
But could he tell us which race breeds the best “Euro-trash kickballers”?
/euro-trash kickballers is pretty funny.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
A titty is always a great way to start the day. Thanks Ty!
November 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Sure I’m in the library right now, but I’m still going to look
November 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
why don’t you elaborate instead of leaving us in the dark, eh?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Raymond is a fucking idiot. He must have some nasty photos of some big wigs because he should have been canned a long time ago. Dude has some awesome talent and he pisses it away. My family in Paris curses his name when it’s mentioned. Dude is a waste of space and a loon.
/seriously, what is up with Brazillian porn?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Quick show of hands: Who has just recently Googled “brazilian porn”?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
i knew a guy in college that took german so that he can understand what he is watching…all 5 minutes of it
November 11th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Man I love South American women.
Carnival >>>> Marti Gras
/haven’t been to marti gras, but no way it can top carnival.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I was living with a chick who was South American. Best sex Ive ever had.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
also worth noting that liverpool bought the best striker in the world after he left and gerrard turned into a top 5 player in the world. And Real paid huge amounts of money and got ronaldo, kaka, and benzema after he left. And Newcastle got relegated. And England missed Euro 2008. But yea they all got better because he left.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Unless she’s a total prude take her with you.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
It’s also better than mardi gras
/fuck me and my spelling
November 11th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Seriously I have to know!!!!
What is the deal with Brazilian porn????
November 11th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Ok, with fear of being banned noted, I’ll give you one scene. Now understand, a lot of this stuff is standard fair now, but Brazilian porn broke through first many years ago…
Setting: On a boat in, I dunno, the Amazon river.
Action: First off, these girls are drugged out of their mind. Zombies. Damn near comatose. Three guys are alternating long stroking a girls ass. One in, out, another in, out, repeat at fast pace. Gaping hole forms. You could have stuck a softball in there. At the same time, a girl is riding a fishing pole holder (think the pole holders for marlin fishing). At the same time, two girls are tickling each others women areas with fish hooks. There were probably two or three cameras and they just kept rotating between the action.
I was 23 or 24 at the time and was amazed. Granted, with all the easy access to porn with the internet, this just seems like freaky shit. At the time, I was like, “Damn, who’d of thunk of doing that?”
November 11th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Just watch some brazilian porn when you get home from work, you’ll understand
November 11th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
/raises hand
//looks around
///sheepishly lowers hand
November 11th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Babalu… that’s all I’m going to say.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
good god KC. I’m googling this shit when I get home.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This made me lol.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Didn’t she try to kill you or something?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This Brazilian porn shit has me intrigued now. I am at work so there is no way in hell I am googling that shit now though.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
So, a buddy just IM’d me a link of what the woman who got attacked by the chimp looks like now. Pretty gruesome. Debating on whether to post it or not.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
when did this site turn into asstr
November 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I dont want to talk about it.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
That’s fucked up. I don’t do freaky porn…that shit has no appeal to me.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
post it.
i saw a vid of a chimp forcing a frog to give it oral..but i cant find it anymore
November 11th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Gallery of body painted chicks for Veterans Day also highly recommended
November 11th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
It seems like its more of a freak show than something that would turn me on. Something fucked up enough I just cant stop watching!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Give me a Lifetime movie and I’m good.
/Gods
November 11th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
when did this site turn into asstr
I dunno waht asstr is, but I’ll just say since people wanted to piss on Ty because of the Jimmy the Greek post.
/No hard feelings towards Ty.
//He is really, really white, though.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Here’s the chimp woman. It’s fucked up.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
This thread just became Epic
November 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Who has just recently Googled “brazilian porn”?
/to do list’d
November 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
It seems like its more of a freak show than something that would turn me on. Something fucked up enough I just cant stop watching!!!
Yes. It is just a freak show. I was more amazed than aroused. In fact, that tape was the last I’ve ever seen of Brazilian porn. More “Sick and Wrong” than porn in my opinion.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Part of me is now sorry I asked.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
This made me laugh…but seriously, what is wrong with the classic 8 girls going at it in a Motel 6 room?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Holy Fuck!
November 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
shit, i’ve seen a video of a kitten get put into a microwave…everything since then has seemed rated G in comparison.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Damn, Younglefty. Damn. Poor woman. This week at work I did a program on the woman who got shot in the face by her husband and lived and then had the first US face transplant at the Cleveland Clinic. I thought her before picture was bad.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Here’s the chimp woman. It’s fucked up.
damn
November 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
That is so sad about that woman. I can’t even begin to imagine what she is going through and what she will go through for the rest of her life.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
I’ll bite. Why in the hell would you watch that?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
something sex stories something something something.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I saw a video of a woman sticking a frozen hot dog in another womens butt and then taking it out after it was thawed out and eating it.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
i have a friend with tourette’s. he once put a pic of a horse fucking an attractive blonde as my buddy’s college background and locked the settings and left. he’s into that kind of shit and dragged me into it one day.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
i thought it was about a woman being attacked by a chimp…you know, the other attack…
November 11th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
you seen 2girls1cup?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I can’t get on Spencer for that (as bad as it is). One of my roomates and I watched the beheading video (or at least the first 5 seconds of it) of the kidnapped guy in Iraq just after the war began. Worst thing I have ever seen and it gives me chills thinking about it. I also watched the Bill Dwyer suicide video, but I watched that in J-school for a debate on what should be shown and what should not be shown.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I love latina girls (almost as much as I love this thread).
I like realistic porn more, heh, maybe its just me. This is the reasons a lot of porn stars don’t appeal too much to me; they’re hot, but they are also doped up and faking it for the most part. Tori Black is the shit though.
Amateur FTW.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Ha! well played
I remember doing this a while back to a kid who lived down the hall from us my freshman year..only we used lemonparty
November 11th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I also watched that. I was like 14 when I saw that, I still remember the grainy video and the scream and what not. Horrifying.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
A buddies dormmate did something similar to him, but it was a video of a horse painting a chick with what looked like gallons of sperm. It was terrible.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
2 girls 1 cup is awful. Worst thing Ive ever seen in my life.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
how about the yelping japanese ones where they have to censor it. since they feel it disgraces themselves and their family if their genitalia is shown…
November 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
who hasn’t? i can show you some fucked up shit, if you’re down
November 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
no, what is that?
/just discovered the internet
November 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
meatspin
November 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
i know a girl who watched all of 2 girls 1 cup, and calmly said, “is that it?”, asking for more…
November 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Try BMI pain Olympics. Not sure if it’s real, but if you don’t vomit I’ll assume you’re a serial killer.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Sophomore year one of my roommates went home for the weekend and we put meatspin up on his computer and got to like 2 million spins or something.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Come on.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
1 guy, 1 horse
November 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I’m not too big on asians, but Maria Ozawa is a goddess. You can find the uncensored versions lying around on some sites, but its so dumb that its censored.
Also, they scream way too much for a guy with a penis that’s more often than not below average.
/ Stereotype’d
November 11th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
makes 2 girls, 1 cup pose for holy pictures
November 11th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I can only imagine what “meatspin” is. It sounds awful.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
omg gods fuck you for even talking about that. I just watched it. Oh my god.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
This thread will soon need to be covered in saran wrap.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
OMG.
That chimp fucking ate her hands, nose, eyelids, lips off!!!!
WTF!!! The 911 call is fucking horrifying. Holy fuck.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Also watched that, had nightmares for a few days about his screaming
November 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
I solicited opinions on whether to link it or not. Came back in the affirmative.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
What the hell are meatspin and BMI pain Olympics?
I haven’t even seen 2 girls 1 cup.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
i was just checking to see if i violated any terms of use agreements when i first registered.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
If I lived with Harry Henderson, I would expect my face to look like that at some point.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
i have a friend with tourette’s. he once put a pic of a horse fucking an attractive blonde as my buddy’s college background and locked the settings and left. he’s into that kind of shit and dragged me into it one day.
true story. it was my computer.
same kid then proceeded to write “POOP” and draw pics of dicks on all the mirrors w/ my dry erase marker.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
what year was that? not sure if i saw that also, or it was some other dude getting his head chopped off.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Haven’t you learned from this thread that if you have to ask, you don’t want to know?
November 11th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Fuck. Why do I always ignore the voice in my head that says “Don’t click that fucking link”?
Could never be a doctor. I’d look at someone in her state and be totally convinced that she’d be better off dead.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
or it was some other dude getting his head chopped off.
you see one decapitation video, you’ve seen them all.
/going to get my Valtrex prescription after reading this thread
November 11th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I hope I don’t get fired….
November 11th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
I’m still pissed at you Gods. Oh my god. I’m calling your wife and making her divorce you. Or get a sex change, one of the two.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
are these the regular day commenters or the tbl after dark crowd that don’t have work today?
November 11th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
My bad, dude.
It had to be 2002-2003.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Yeah but it wasnt even her chimp. It was her friends and employers pet chimp and she came over.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
From what I can tell, a solid mix of both.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
a new post about a nude chicks…they are just enabling us today.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Was it? I thought the chimp turned on her owner? Or were there multiple attacks?
And where the hell was I?
November 11th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Again, my bad. I was just throwing that out there.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Yeah, the chimp didn’t attack its owner, it attacked her friend. Just the one attack, I think.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I think this is right.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Wow.
This thread is quickly approaching… well, I don’t even know what it’s approaching but it’s not good.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
critical mass?
November 11th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
You’re right.
What a mess.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
that is a good system for pimps then.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I got all excited that there were 100+ comments on a soccer post and then…well yes, this makes more sense.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
i thought that lady was sleeping with the chimp. feeding it wine and zanax
November 11th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
@ Maxwell
I only clicked cause of the boobs.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I fully decided that I am going to Hell, just for reading this…
/I will Google Brazilian Porn when I get home
//I will NOT look for BMI or 2 Girls 1 Cup or whatever the hell else is up there
November 11th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I got all excited that there were 100+ comments on a soccer post and then…well yes, this makes more sense.
Ok, this is awesome. Just laughed my ass off on this comment.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
quality, indeed.
turned on oprah briefly and i must say, it was one of the saddest things i’ve seen this year. seriously.
i will tell my family: I would rather be dead. seriously.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Agreed. She could be a mainstream model/actress.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
ooooooo, the oprah and chimp story was today. its on right now, and i was confused cause i thought it aired already.