Five Reasons Why Curtis Granderson-to-the-Yankees Makes Sense For New York and Detroit
Baseball November 12th. 2009, 3:45pm
Yes, two posts on Curtis Granderson potentially getting traded to the Yankees is necessary.
1. Detroit needs to trim payroll. According to this, the Tigers are doing what many fans think they should - generating revenue and spending it on their team. That’s great if you win. The Tigers lost a one-game playoff and missed the postseason. Despite a 12-win improvement in 2009 over 2008, the Tigers lost an average of 8,000 fans per home game. Granderson is set to make $5.5 million in 2010, and $8.25 million in 2011. He’s trade bait.
2. The Tigers have a lot of holes to fill. Brandon Lyon, Fernando Rodney, Adam Everett and Placido Polanco are all free agents. Magglio Ordonez isn’t a capable defensive player. Others, like Carlos Guillen, Ryan Raburn and Clete Thomas don’t appear to be everyday players. (Feel free to argue that.) Trading Granderson for 2-3 players makes sense.
3. Detroit has a recent history of dumping speedy centerfielders. Remember Cameron Maybin? He was one of the centerpieces in the deal that landed boozy Miguel Cabrera. What about Nook Logan?
4. Granderson in Yankee Stadium has ridiculous potential. Yes, he’s coming off a good, but not great season. He tends to strikeout a lot. But he’s an ideal leadoff man, one of the best defensive centerfielders in the game, and his lefty power (20 homers) is perfect for Yankee Stadium.
5. Trades that may or may not make sense: Prized Yankees OF recruit Austin Jackson and RP Joba Chamberlain is probably too much (not for us; they both have high value due to being young and cheap), though we would do it with question. Would a package of Jackson, Ian Kennedy, Phil Hughes, and maybe David Adams do the trick? Insert Granderson in CF, shift Melky to LF, and the outfield will have no holes. Resign Matsui to be your DH. If Scott Boras is serious, and he thinks Johnny Damon can get anywhere near $13 million a year while Granderson can be had for much less (and is an upgrade in nearly every way fathomable) … the Yankees have to do this.
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November 12th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Sounds like your begging for it.
/Begging is kinda sad…
November 12th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Next up: Five Reasons Why The Jets Should Sign The Corpse Of Larry Johnson
November 12th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
This is a reason for making a trade?
Hey the Mets traded a power lefty in Scott Kazmir once. TRADE JOHAN. It makes sense!
November 12th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Only 5? You underestimate TBL
November 12th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
no, don’t want him.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I know it’s a slow day, but throw some brazilian tits up there and this thread will take care of itself.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Wait… what? Do I not understand the concept of the leadoff man?
November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
how so? stop looking at fantasy stats.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
He’s my favorite Tiger. Whatever, I am over it. This is seriously why baseball is terrible for the everyday sports fan. The Yankees should be in a one team league that way they can just win every year and thier shit fucking fans can stop whining. Didn’t you guys win the wolrd series sometime last week? Now you are after one of our best players, great. Now fuck off.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Carrie Prejean sex video talk would do the trick as well.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
30 LeBron is going to _________ posts > 5 A-Rod/Selena Roberts stalked me posts > 3 Brooke Hundley fucked Steve Phillips posts > 2 Courtney Roberts is banging Jim Nantz posts > 2 Curtis Granderson would make a great Stankee posts
November 12th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Jackson, Kennedy, Hughes, and Adams? Um, no. I would’ve moved for Granderson 2 years ago, but now I scream no.
I’m sorry but that is just plain wrong. He strikes out at an astounding rate for a leadoff guy and his OB% sucked as a result. Yankees, I assume, will realize this and hold on to their future and continue to follow Cashman’s plan of getting yonger.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
It’s the Brazilian porn time of day!!!
November 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
What about Xavier Nady to Right, Swisher to CF, Melky to LF?
November 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
He tends to strikeout a lot. But he’s an ideal leadoff man
Contradictory?
November 12th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
_____ reasons why _______ is going to _____________ in/the [choose one- NY Yankees, NY Jets, Notre Dame].
Fill in the blanks and you have a post, folks!!
/next
November 12th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
He tends to strikeout a lot. But he’s an ideal leadoff man,
Wait… what? Do I not understand the concept of the leadoff man?
Ok, so I was a bit late to that party…
Anyway, i’m trying out different gravitars, trying to settle on one. This is the Lakers 2009 Championship Ring. Does it read? Can a get some feedback?
November 12th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
one of the best defensive centerfielders in the game
November 12th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Looks like a witch flying in front of a moon Ballz
November 12th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Woops
His UZR was 8th, so that’s a bit of a stretch.
fixed
November 12th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
i thought it was a fish fossil on a plate at first.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Not the best defensive CF in his division, sorry
November 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Yeah, the Tigers can make that move, and come out winners in the deal. It’d be kinda stupid for the Yankees.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Looks like a witch flying in front of a moon Ballz
i thought it was a fish fossil on a plate at first.
Well shit. Thought so. That’s the end of that. Well, now another 36 hours or so before another change goes through. Thanks guys.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Don’t want him, sparty? Cheaper than Damon
November 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
tj/
anyone with sirius/xm…mad dog has a good interview going with agassi right now
/tj
November 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Sad, but true.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
He tends to strikeout a lot. But he’s an ideal leadoff man
WHHAAAAAAA?
/kevin duckworth is playing on a farm upstate somewhere. he’s happy
//seriously, i can’t believe that you wrote this
November 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
John Heyman on SI.com: The Dodgers need a starting pitcher but are apparently not in the market for John Lackey, the top free-agent pitcher, and will instead try to find an innings eater or two.
Fucking fantastic. Same as last year, eh McCourt/Coletti? Except this time we’ll be lucky to even make the playoffs. Classic Dodgers. All the hope and optimism I had last season has a moist sponge on it’s head and is waiting for midnight.
/Still better than being a Cubs fan.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
The Tigers also set attendance records in 2008. 2009 still put 32K in the seats on average. That’s still far more than most teams in MLB.
The Tigers have 2-3 middle infielders they’re high on that will likely be big leaguers next year. Polly and Lyon are the two that should be resigned. Everett was platoon and Rodney is a heart attack inducer.
This has nothing to do with the “trade Granderson” argument.
False. Playing CF and stealing 20 bases a year don’t make you an “ideal leadoff man.” His OBP was bad. He doesn’t walk much, strikes out a lot. Leyland batted him leadoff about 2/3 of the season and didn’t lead him off against lefties after mid-August.
Guillen is everyday player as in everyday DH. Thomas can’t hit a fucking breaking ball but is a plus defender. Rayburn should be given the opportunity to play every day in LF. He was this year and did a fine job on defense (the bonehead play in the play-in game and the one game he played third notwithstanding) and is pretty good on O.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
is Damon our leadoff guy? last i checked, that was derek jeter.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Basically what I was saying is that trading Granderson to conserve money doesn’t make that much sense. This is a puffed-up story. Can’t wait for ESPfuckingN to lead the 6 p.m. SC with this Yankees talk.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
is Damon our leadoff guy? last i checked, that was derek jeter
yeah, but how’d that work out for you? what’s that, you say you won the world series? good show, sport, good show indeed
/Let’s go Bucs
November 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
and i am not worried about price. if damon leaves, go after figgins or crawford.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Far more compelling than Curtis Granderson is the fact that Frank Wren said yesterday that he’ll listen to offers for some of the Braves’ starting pitchers.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Granderson is probably my favorite non Twins player. This would suck if he went to the Yankees.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
they wouldn’t even considered that deal when Santana was on the market. and that was when joba’s value was much much higher.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Exactly, let him go. i’d rather have Crawford anyways.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Ballz i thought it was ET
November 12th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
and i am not worried about price. if damon leaves, go after figgins or crawford.
Crikey. Fucking Yankees. World Series winning bastards. They probably will too. Hell, why stop there? Pay someone to invent a time machine or cloning machine and get Ty Cobb to leadoff!
/Bitter fan of a “large market” team that spends money like, like, like someone who’s really cheap!
November 12th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
It should really be Curtis Anderson. Granderson has to be an ongoing, ill-fated spelling error.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Keep Hanson and Jurrjens, as well as Hudson (already locked) and the hell with the rest. Let’s get some bats.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
*to hell
November 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
These 2 points make it seem like TBL has no idea what he’s talking about.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
thought you were gonna say a certain NBA head coach has been fired
November 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Lowe’s not going anywhere, along with the guys you mentioned. They’ll probably listen to offers for Vazquez, KK, and Medlen.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
rondoman, meet baseball post. Baseball post, meet rondoman.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
They’re trading Vasquez? He was like the 3rd best pitcher in the NL last year.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
If Austin Jackson is their top prospect, the Yankees aren’t getting any of the guys mentioned. Jackson will be extremely lucky to be 80% of Curtis Granderson. 4 HR & 123 K’s at AAA. I know he’s young for the level but those numbers do not project well.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
The Brewers would gladly take Vasquz off of your hands.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Not necessarily, but they’ll listen. I don’t think he’s a guy they’d put on the “no way no how we won’t even discuss it” list.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Granderson is useful but he’s not a full time CF - at this point he can’t hit lefties (career .894 OPS against RHP, .614 against LHP) so he must be platooned. He has nice power which will translate better in Yankee stadium than at Comerica and can play a plus defense in CF.
That said, if Cashman trades any of Joba, Hughes, or Jackson for Granderson he loses in the trade. I could see something a long the lines of Gardner/Melky + tier 2 pitcher (Robertson, Kennedy) + tier 2 prospect. That will get Detroit cheaper with one or 2 young arms and also backfill at CF if so desired. It will get New York a nice hitting CF with limitations but also great power and also a nifty platoon mate to help break in Austin Jackson. The Melky/Gardner that remains either moves to left (no Damon) or plays 4th OF (yes Damon.) Although neither Melky/Gardner hits enough to carry LF.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Austin Jackson is their best OF prospect. which isn’t anything great. their best prospect is probably Jesus Montero.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Lefty - Any talk in Atlanta about landing Halladay?
November 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Sure. Give us da Prince.
I don’t mind letting Vasquez go for the right trade, but he’d be missed. But the Hanson and Jurrjens 1-2 combo could work for a decade… (sigh) reminds me of the old days.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I’m still waiting for the Michael Cuddyer for Franklin Gutierrez trade to happen.
/wishful thinking
November 12th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I haven’t heard anything, and I don’t think there’s much chance of that happening. The Braves wouldn’t be able to resign him, and they’d have to give up too much for a one year rental, especially since this could be Chipper’s last year.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I haven’t heard anything, and I don’t think there’s much chance of that happening. The Braves wouldn’t be able to resign him, and they’d have to give up too much for a one year rental, especially since this could be Chipper’s last year.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I miss Ted.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Comment FAIL. Let’s try again.
That’s what I figured. It’s unfortunate for the Jays because Atlanta has a decent crop of young players & prospects. It seems like all the teams who are interested lack in that department. I have a bad feeling the Jays are going to fuck this up in a major way.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
GG: They should have traded him at the deadline. It’s going to be impossible to get value for him since A. He’s expensive and B. He only has 1 year left.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Totally agree but we had the worst GM in the history of the world running the show at that point. He was more interested in scoring points with the media to line up a new job than actually doing right by the team.
I have lowered expectations but they can’t just give him away.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
my bad - i should have made it more clear that Detroit’s recent history of trading CFs isn’t a reason WHY Granderson should be traded. more of why i wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.
that one’s on me
November 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Wouldn’t a willingness to trade your center fielder of the future indicate a desire to keep your center fielder of the present?