Detroit Tigers Are Shopping Granderson to Pay For Dombrowski’s Follies
Baseball, Delicate Geniuses, Frauds November 12th. 2009, 1:20pm
First of two posts on Curtis Granderson. One from the Detroit POV; the other from the Yankees’ POV.
Baseball teams are businesses. Unstable revenue streams cannot support massive expenditure indefinitely. The Tigers’ bubble was bound to blow at some moment. With the team now shopping Curtis Granderson, that moment has come.
Granderson is a great fielder with speed and power. He’s likable. He’s locked up through his prime until 2012 for a reasonable $23.75 million. Detroit has a fair $13 million option for 2013. Granderson’s the exact player teams don’t want to trade. So, why are the Tigers’ shopping him? Ask Dave Dombrowski.
Detroit’s economy is terrible, but even in more opportune times, it’s not Boston or New York. The Tigers don’t draw substantial attendance when the team is not good. I have fond pre-2006 recollections of parking in the free lot for a weeknight game, sitting in my own section behind home plate and griping because the Tigers didn’t bother to open the hot dog stands on the upper level.
The Tigers are a top-five spending team. They aren’t a top-five earning team. The Red Sox and Yankees can afford to swing and miss on a contract. The Tigers’ can’t. Despite this reality, Dave Dombrowski has been hacking indiscriminately with backloaded contracts. He’s the GM version of Jeff Francoeur.
Dombrowski has said the Tigers aren’t having a fire sale. They can’t have a fire sale, because their contracts are so bad no one will take them.
Detroit pays Carlos Guillen’s desiccated husk $26 million the next two seasons. Dontrelle Willis had his contract extended before throwing a pitch in spring training, $12 million. Jeremy Bonderman has never panned out, $12.5 million. Nate Robertson, not a certainty to make the major league roster, $10 million.
The Tigers allowed Magglio Ordonez to gurantee his $18 million option for next season. He can conceivably earn himself a $15 million option for 2011 as well.
Dombrowski has committed $65.5 million next year to five players who could be dead weight. In coming seasons, that amount could be a sensible payroll for the Tigers. If you add Miguel Cabrera’s $20 million, that is $85.5 million for six players. That would leave them just $30 million to pay the rest of the team, and that’s assuming they maintain the same payroll. The only recourse is to trade whomever they can to clear money, which happens to be Curtis Granderson.
The Tigers are shedding productive, reasonably priced players to subsidize atrocious backloaded contracts given to veterans. That’s not a recipe for success.
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November 12th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Over the past four seasons, Curtis Granderson has struck out 567 times (avg of 142 Ks). Insane.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I’m enjoying this, nothing against Tigers fans, but some of you have really needed a reality check on how fucked your payroll is. Excellent post Duffy, agree with everything you said. And isn’t the ENTIRE problem Magglio? I know there are a bunch of other bad contracts, but they could be in reasonably okay shape if they’d just made the obvious move and cut him early last year.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Olney argues in his blog today that teams like Boston/New York are gonna be able to go to say the Reds and offer to take Aaron Harang and his contract, but only if they get Brandon Phillips too.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
…sigh. Nobody likes baseball. (kicks another can)
November 12th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
November 12th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
TST: Thoughts on Granderson? I had no idea he struck out that much.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
why doesn’t detroit just trade miguel cabrera to boston and get it over with?
November 12th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
…sigh. Nobody likes baseball. (kicks another can)
gimme your lunch money, nerd.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Contract the Tigers? Contract the Tigers!
November 12th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I think we need a Yankees’ POV on every post. they just know how to win
November 12th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
White Sox should get him. Hes from the Chi. Why not?
November 12th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
TJ/
Byron Scott FIRED.
/end TJ
November 12th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Statheads don’t give a shit about strikeouts. For some reason they think that a strikeout and a groundout that will move a runner up a base are equal things because they affect the almighty OBP just the same.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I believe the NY Post as much as I believe Brooke Hundley was a victim.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Hernia, Granderson isn’t a lead off hitter, which finally become sort of obvious. He had a really shitty year offensively last year, (probably because he tried to be a home run hitter), I’m sure he bounces back a decent amount next year, but he’s not a star, and he’s not gonna be.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Byron Scott FIRED
Lakers job in the future Michael?
November 12th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I believe the NY Post as much as I believe Brooke Hundley was a victim.
of multiple big mac attacks.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Yadier Molina hit into 27 double plays last year. he hardly ever strikeouts. It’s not not caring about strikeouts, it’s just they aren’t the be all end all of a players ability, and not making outs is still the most important thing a player can do.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Duffy and The Post make good points for a Granderson trade but if the Tigers can make it through 2010 season, Willis, Robertson, Bonderman and Ordonez all go off the books. Why not suck it up and tough it out? Team owner Mike Ilitch has the dough. People still buy Little Caeser’s during the recession. The Tigers still averaged about 32K a game last year. Likely not dropping that much in 2010.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
She calls Steve Phillips’ jizz “Special Sauce”.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
She calls Steve Phillips’ jizz “Special Sauce”.
it was her between snacks snack.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
If he’s lucky, he’ll end up in an urban weed haven.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
the tigers are fools. yankees win!
November 12th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Byron Scott FIRED
Lakers job in the future Michael?
I wanted him the first time Phil left, after the ‘04 season. That’s when they hired Rudy T. I think now the Lakers are prepping that job for Brian Shaw, but who knows.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
FINALLY!
/who needs to develop young talent when you can sign James Posey and Morris Peterson!
November 12th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
WOW…LOOK AT ALL THE FUCKING GENIUSES IN DETROIT.
/go fuck yourself, ty
November 12th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Did Granderson Steal that hat from Steve Phillips?
November 12th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
And the actual value of moving that runner is much lower than the perceived value of moving that runner. That is why sacrificing = almost always stupid. That is what statheads think.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
B Shaw is a bum
November 12th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
B Shaw maybe a bum, but Kobe likes him.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
He has been injured, but the year Verlander was hurt he was our ace and won 14-15 games. The Willis contract was a calculated risk which failed. The Maggs contract was earned and he leads the team in OPS. Granderson should not be shopped and I surely hope this isn’t the case. He is a deadly lead off hitter who reminds me of a fully functional Soriano in his prime. Granderson had a bad year two years ago and had a fine year last year to refute TST’s point.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
I said he’d bounce back, but the outlier season right now is 2007, not last year. He’s gonna be 29. He’s probably not getting a lot better. As for being a “deadly” lead off hitter, he’s had two whole years in his career where his OBP was over .335. That is deadly. For an offense. ohhhhhhh.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
And when Soriano was fully functional he was hitting 40 bombs, Granderson’s had one thirty homer season, and the two seasons he’s been a very good player he’s hit 22 and 23.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Bye bye Grandy. Bye bye EJack. And bye bye to any other Tiger worth a damn. The Tigers will be horrible in 2010, and in my estimation, need to shed salary and attempt to reload for 2011 and beyond. I was in the “Release Magglio” camp all year, and now the piper must be paid.
Damn, looks like 2003 or 2007 all over again. Maybe they can get Bobby Higginson on the cheap?
November 12th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
dude can’t hit a lefty.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
are we talking about ryan howard or curtis granderson?
/can’t accept a world series loss
//i hate my life
November 12th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Fuck no he can’t. I got a wicked eephus pitch.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
this makes me feel good.
not because i hate the tigers, but because you’re an asshole.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
2003 and 2007 are more different than Brooke Hundley and Marissa Miller.
119 losses in 2003. 2007 was 88 wins and the Indians were just damn good.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Did the Tigers make the playoffs either year? No. They sucked. That is my definition.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Thanks, spence, that is a compliment from you.;) (OSU prick).
November 12th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
And spence, don’t make me break out the pic with the popped collar. That should be enough to stop any argument.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
How is 88 victories “suck?” The bullpen sucked – yes. 2008 was suck.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Byron Scott FIRED
Lakers job in the future Michael?
Really? I hope not. They’ll make another run at Coach K. He’ll probably say no. Who knows after that. I just hope it’s not Byron Scott. Great Laker that he was.