And We’ll Leave You With More BCS Bashing
College Football November 25th. 2009, 2:45pm
Friday, we attempted to expose the publicists behind the laughable twitter account, @InsidetheBCS. Not surprisingly, they never got back to us. The next day, the BCS announced that it hired Ari Fleischer’s firm to handle all the criticism about the archaic bowl system. Hmmm. Guess who has a longtime, cozy relationship with Fleischer’s firm? The guys we mentioned Friday.
We’re close, people. Give it a few more years and we’ll have a playoff. Power in numbers. The internet. It’ll happen. We actually have faith that once ESPN gets its paws on the system, it’ll force change. It is absolutely necessary:
Does the No. 12 team with losses to its two toughest opponents (both at home) and zero victories against any team ranked 40th or higher in the BCS Standings really create a more “exciting and competitive” matchup than a No. 6 team with zero losses, a victory against No. 8 in the BCS Standings and the highest scoring offense in the country?
Only if it means keeping $4.5 million in the family rather than handing it over to the uninvited guest, which is why the Fiesta Bowl is likely to choose Oklahoma State from the Big 12 over Boise State for this year’s game – if both win out.
That’ll do it for us today. We’ll try to pop on later to talk about the Maui final. Make sure to see “The Road” this weekend – there will be a post about it Monday or Tuesday.
Deciding the NCAA football championship (Washington Times)
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November 25th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
http://www.playoffproblem.com
November 25th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Not sure what universe you live in.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
We’re close, people. Give it a few more years and we’ll have a playoff.
jpq shits on this premise.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
TBL – have you read The Road yet? Man, it was disturbing. The way it was written was very unique as well.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I hope OU doesn’t bail out the BCS and beat the Cowboys. We need to put the bowls on the spot – they either realize Boise State is the better team (and will travel) or they choose Okie State and take a beating from the public again.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Seriously, the BCS wants to hire someone? Hire the company that convinced the networks that Jon + Kate updates was the biggest news story of the year.
/people are stupid
November 25th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I dont understand your obsession with this. You dont like college football, thats fine, not everyone does. A playoff wont fix that. Stop trying to change my/our sport in hopes that maybe if its changed you’ll be able to like it more.
I think the NCAA tournament is downright retarded, but I dont spend time railing against it because I dont like college basketball.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Thank you coop! IT’s not going to change. Money is power. Too much money in it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE no more playoff posts.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I don’t know why the Fiesta would chose Ok. State over Boise. I don’t think Ok. State would be an upgrade in either attendance or TV ratings. Who cares about Ok. State besides T. Boone Pickens?
This, GPIA or whatever the cool kids are doing these days.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
i read the roundup and i gotta say you liberal fuck sticks want to be protected but you get upset with the way you are protected “oh dont hurt that terrorist he is a human being too! he has rights!” well here is an idea why dont you protect yourself and see if you want to give someone like that the “rights” they deserve as a human being.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Thank you coop! IT’s not going to change. Money is power. Too much money in it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE no more playoff posts.
If you don’t like the playoff posts then skip over it. While, as jpq wisely pointed out last week, it’ll be at least 2014 (when the current BCS contract runs out) before any changes occur, I think long term it is possible and likely that at least some form of a playoff will be integrated into the structure. I see no harm, other than in annoying the sensibilities of some individuals, in discussing a possible playoff before that time, particularly in light of the continued controversey over rankings and how poll voters make their decisions.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
I hate the most successful tournament in sports, too.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
i read the roundup and i gotta say you liberal fuck sticks want to be protected but you get upset with the way you are protected “oh dont hurt that terrorist he is a human being too! he has rights!” well here is an idea why dont you protect yourself and see if you want to give someone like that the “rights” they deserve as a human being.
You watched Jack Nicholson’s courtroom speech in A Few Good Men recently didn’t you.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/internet-tough-guy-magazine.gif
liberal pussies are at it again
http://s0.ilike.com/play#Avenged+Sevenfold:Critical+Acclaim:47873189:m11236703
November 25th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
nope
November 25th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I just don’t understand how a playoff could be considered a bad thing.
I guess I used to love CFB almost as much as the NFL but recently I just haven’t been into it.
@ mrejr — I tried my best, I really did …
November 25th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
keep fighting the good fight. i would have be there to have your back but my brother came home from colorado for a few hours on his way to louisiana.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
have not read the road.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
world cup?
march madness?
guess it determines how you define ’success’
November 25th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
I just don’t understand how a playoff could be considered a bad thing.
Me either. But it’s all about $$$, and there’s huge money to be made. And sending 52 teams to various bowl games where every fan base gets tapped once for a big hit at the end of the year generates so much cash. In an 8 team playoff (or better is probably 12 or 16), you’re hitting up one team’s fanbase 3 or 4 times.
I’d much prefer a playoff, but not a playoff that includes only the champs from the 6 BCS conferences, and then 2 at large teams (which would almost certainly be from the BCS conferences).
All you can ask for is a +1.
@ Mrejr, i’m not a pussy, i’m a douche, right?
November 25th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
i caught shit for saying having the trial in the states will put the lives of those involved in danger from al qaeda.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I’m split on a true playoff. If the playoff is 4 teams then fine. I don’t want an 8 team or 16 team playoff at all. Are there even 8 deserving national title teams right now? No? Are there ever? No. If they do a plus 1 which will in essence be a 4 team playoff then I’ll take that. Anything more than that and I’m out.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
dirt you’re actually a pussy douche. but we like you anyway
i saw that. also saw someone said that only happens in steven seagal movies. y’know people probably thought flying a couple airplanes into some buildings building to kill a bunch of people and to attempt to cripple the worlds economy also only happened in steven seagal movies.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I’d much prefer a playoff, but not a playoff that includes only the champs from the 6 BCS conferences, and then 2 at large teams (which would almost certainly be from the BCS conferences).
November 25th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
because its a stupid thing to say
November 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
good to know you have your fingers on the pulse of terrorists. when did you become a terrorist expert? you underestimate them and that is bad.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
The World Cup laughs at the notion that a college bball tounry is more successfull.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
We’re close, people. Give it a few more years and we’ll have a playoff.
jpq shits on this premise.
I do too, but I got to give credit to TBL. He has passion about a playoff that will never happen. Someone has to beat the drum. Also, I’m going to whip all your asses again this year in the TBL Bowl Tourney Thing and I’ve got a system. If it was a 16 team playoff… boring. I still miss the Bluebonnet and Cherry Bowls.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
rs – 4 teams?
so this year you’re looking at …
FLA/ALA
TCU
Cincy
Texas
What good is that? Most would argue that Alabama is probably better than everyone there except Texas.
And Boise’s left out!
what about 16 teams (1 from each conference) and 5 at-large.
This year, the at-large teams would be …
-FLa/Ala loser
-Maybe ACC title game loser (or VT)
-maybe Pitt (BE title game loser)
-maybe a P10 team (or 2)
-maybe a b10 team
-maybe a b12 team
-if LSU hadn’t lost, it would be in the discussion
November 25th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
so then we shouldnt have trials for orginized crime leaders? or members of gangs, or how about drug cartel leaders? all those groups have a history of jury intimidation, witness murders etc…should we not try those criminals as well?
im not a terrotist expert(and neither is anyone on here) but to say we shouldnt try them because of a fear of danger is ridiclous
mikenyc was making some good points in the roundup thread, and i agree with him that the trial is a show–but it is a show we have to put on
November 25th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
or how about drug cartel leaders?
This just reminded me of the book “Killing Pablo”. It makes a very compelling argument for why Pablo Escobar could not be taken into custody, he had to be hunted down and killed without a trial.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
As someone said above, it’s a silly statement. That is why you caught shit for it.
mrejr: I made the Segal crack because if you think a group of terrorists is going to do anything in terms of attacking the trial you need to pause the 24 dvd and take a walk. It’s not happening. If the terrorists had the means to pull something like that off at this stage they would have done so. If someone is willing to give his/her life for a cause it is almost impossible to stop them. Are terrorists a threat? Yes. Are they as big of a threat that Hawks would like us to believe? I don’t think so.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
enemy combatants are different from criminals. if we treat them like criminals why dont we just send our police departments over there?
November 25th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
gotg: American sports, my bad.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
What good is that? Most would argue that Alabama is probably better than everyone there except Texas.
Dude, an aside point here, Texas is from the Big 12 an is a sacrificial lamb. Every year, people think shit is set up before thanksgiving and then the rivalry and Championship games happen. The Nebraska Cornhuskers are going to the BCS.
/I respect Nebraska, but if they beat Texas they will be in the BCS and I will start supporting TBL’s fruitless effort to get it killed.
//Crazy shit happens the last two weeks of the season.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
i just think it’s hilarious that the same people 8 years ago that chanted, “don’t let the terrorist’s win by showing fear” are the same ones saying “bad things will happen if this trial happens, hide the terrorists! everyone be afraid of what might happen!”.
the argument is nothing but politcal fear mongering.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
im not going to get dragged into this debate again, but what is the damage of these trials? we all know what will happen so what is the risk?
November 25th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
There will never be a 16 team FBS playoff. Period. Never. Ever.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
The problem with a 16 team bracket is the number of games. You know no team would give up home dates, and added onto the 12 game schedule now is the same number of games as NFL teams play.
/jetting out of the office. I’ll read all the replies on Fri.
//Happy Turkey Day
November 25th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
We have had this argument countless times, and until the people that run college football are convinced that they will make substantially more money with a play-off than the substantial money they make with the present system it is not going to happen.
Also, if you are talking about a 4, 8 or 16 team play-off, to be fair you can not have automatic berths for conference winners, which would make that plan dead on arrival. Conference winners works for basketball because there are 65 bids.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
white sox have signed omar vizquel and andruw jones. theyre also in hot pursuit of jon kruk.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
ms621 – That is an awesome book and great story. Too bad so many people died. I think it was the National Geographic Channel (or something similar) had an awesome two hour documentary on him. He was one of the world’s most wanted men and he could throw lavish parties in different town squares because everyone was either paid off, scared shitless of him, or liked him. The power of fear.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I am as unabashedly liberal as anyone on this site…but on this point, I wholeheartedly agree with mrejr.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
gods if you dont think the amount of cameras at that HUGE trial wouldnt make it tempting for terrorist to strike(they dont care if they succeed they want to scare people) then i suggest you keep doing what you do and let the people who handle terrorist do it without you or any other person who has never dealt with terrorists looking over their shoulders. thank you and good night.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Great line. +1000000 Paolo points
November 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Winner, Winner, Turkey Dinner!
November 25th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
i think thats pretty obvious
November 25th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
There are two grand arguments going on parallel to each other. I might be the only one fascinated by that.
People who say that the playoff will never happen in college football are just as foolish as those who say “it’s going to happen and it’s going to happen soon”.
I’m not particularly comfortable with having these trials in the continental United States, but I’ve found that the policy of this country should not always coincide with what makes me, or any other citizen, ‘comfortable’.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
You are 100% wrong. This is not a show we have to put on. Having a trial doesn’t show compassion or that we follow the law… it makes us out to be soft. If they go to trial, what happens if there is a hung jury? That will show Obama what a fucking idiot he is.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Great book. Bowden is the man.
You have no idea how badly I want to believe this. then I remember watching nebraska play on offense and I see a 27-9 loss to Texas. Huskers won’t be able to do shit against that defense. McCoy will do enough to win…sadly.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
4 team playoff sounds too much like the wnba
/dont listen to me
November 25th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/11/25/world/international-uk-nepal-sacrifice-religion.html
My background is from Nepal, but that is a fucked up story! 15, 000 animals slaughtered, god damn.
Talk about excessive.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
You’ll always have controversy, regardless of if it’s a plus 1, 8 team playoff or 16 team playoff. It’s just a matter of where the arguments happen, whether that’s at the 8/9 spot or 16/17 and whatnot.
So, what then?
Revamp the entire system. Throw it all out and start over. Change the rules for Division I in order to get 128 teams eligible. Rearrange the conferences so that there are eight 16 team conferences. All of them with two divisions. Play out the schedule so that every league has a title game. Take the eight conference champs and stick them in an eight team playoff so they can fight to the death.
Problem solved. It’s just that easy. (ignoring the logistics and scheduling and such)
November 25th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I’m not going to repost what I said earlier, since I’m lazy, so I’ll just repeat:
The trials are a sham, but they are a necessary sham. Since they are in the public eye, this has to be done. Gods suggested earlier that we should’ve just killed them covertly, which makes sense. However, there’s nothing we can do about it now, so we just have to eat the shit sandwich, convict the assholes and send them to life in prison.
Oh, and make sure their prayer signs point south, instead of towards Mecca.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
In no possible way, shape or form will there be a mistrial or a hung jury. They could have photos of Jerry Lewis behing behind the whole thing, and these motherfuckers will still be sitting in jail.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Gods- You’re fighting a battle you can’t win. Look at the guy you’re
arguingwasting your time with and save your energy for something that’s worth the effort.November 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Not to get dragged back into this again, but you’re forgetting about two things:
1. bad cases make bad law
2. document production (i.e., boatloads of US intelligence that the defense will have to hand over)
November 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Do you know how many years there have been more than 3 unbeatens when they went to the BCS formula? one. This year is the exception not the norm. A 16 team playoff? Have you lost your mind? So conferences like the MAC and Conference USA get an automatic bid? You do realize how dumb that sounds right? So a team like say Cincinnati will get to play Temple or some such while the 5th seed like a Georgia Tech might draw LSU or Oregon State or some other name BCS school? Real fair.
Come on. 16 team playoff is ridiculous. If you want to say 8 I’ll hear you out, but anything more than 4 doesn’t interest me and I’m willing to bet a majority of college football fans that actually watch the games don’t want more than a plus 1.
Its the casual observer that clamors for a full scale playoff.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
you really think there will be a hung jury? really??
November 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Plea Bargains are a sham, but they are a necessary sham.
Could you imagine if every case went to trial? Our criminal justice system would be even more of what it already is…..Criminal
November 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
enemy combatants are different from criminals. if we treat them like criminals why dont we just send our police departments over there?
I am as unabashedly liberal as anyone on this site…but on this point, I wholeheartedly agree with mrejr.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
A trial makes us out to be soft? Jesus. I didn’t know Vlad the Impaler was a TBL poster. Also, if you think they are going to walk due to a hung jury you are dumb as fuck.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
November 25th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
How is there no possible way? you know when you go to a JURY TRIAL the defendent gets to pick the jurors… all it takes is one guy. IF there is no possible way, then why are we going to trial?
I agree, odds are very slim, but still longshots hit every once in a while… also, every single person is going to demand a trial that we capture.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
well give Obama some more time. I have to give him some more time. However, if the dems lose as many seats as is predicted he might not be able to do that much in the second half of his term
November 25th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
What’s so bad about a hung jury?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
exactly cassino, they reschedule trial while they sit in prison.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Agreed.
I don’t know, I’m a pretty liberal guy, but the whole idea seems risky. I’m not so much worried about the safety of the jurors (I doubt terrorists are going to take the time out to plot on them when Obama has already assured that they will be executed), but why have a trial for criminals who aren’t “normal” criminals? This isn’t just murder, this was for mass-murder on a vast level. Just deal with it privately and in a less showy manner.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Dude, what positive comes out of this trial? I’m all ears. seriously I’ll listen if you can make a valid point.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
you know when you go to a JURY TRIAL the defendent gets to pick the jurors
Unless I’m mistaken on voir dire, I believe the defense and prosecution have to agree on each juror.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
and i click on your link and feel like an asshole. I need to pound some christmas ale.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
No, there is no way. It’s a fake SHOW trial. Its to show the world that we can be fair, but theres too much evidence. They’re guilty. Also, if there was a juror that was nervous and was uncertain about his/her vote, that vote would find it’s way towards “guilty”
November 25th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
it is going to be the fastest deliberation in our history, literally 20 seconds to hand the bailiff the paper, guilty as charged…you guys are so worried as to what happens during the trial to those involved, imagine what happened if the jury is hung, or the prosecution cannot convict
November 25th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
it’s because You’re right, do people on here just make up shit. The defendant gets to pick his own jury? what the fuck are you talking about?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
i just think its entirely unnessesary to have these trials at all. They arent even united states citizens. We spent 8 years having war tribunals in gitmo so why now? Its a waste of time and a shit show. You cant say, “because they are the mastermind.” how many times have we heard that word? 10? 15? Do it in gitmo and lock them up and we arent even discussing this. My 2 cents and ill leave it at that
November 25th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
si, agreed. But they still have picks… the prosecution can’t veto every single pick.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
next rule: Defendants must wear hats.
Sincerely,
Jason M.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
More crazy liberal things have been said in this thread than in the roundup.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
it is going to be the fastest deliberation in our history, literally 20 seconds to hand the bailiff the paper, guilty as charged
I’m not necessarily staking out a position here, but if the end of the trial is so assured (and how is it assured?) then what is the difference between trying them and letting them rot in a dungeon somewhere? If the defendents were American citizens, then I’d see your point (due process, etc), but none of them are. They have no rights under our Constitution. And I have not read the Constitution in awhile, but I don’t recall there being any guarantee of the rights of non-citizens and non-residents.
Not that I’m disagreeing with you per se. Just saying.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
We should’ve just fucking killed them quitly. There’s no reason to hold them (except for the chance of gaining intel). However, you have to show the faces on the news when they are first captured so they can show progress on the war front.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
You are slightly mistaken. There are what are known as “peremptory challenges” where either side can strike a potential juror for any reason whatsoever. There are also a handful of other reasons a juror can be stricken. But once the challenges are up, it is certainly the case that a juror can slide on that one side doesn’t want there.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
si, agreed. But they still have picks… the prosecution can’t veto every single pick.
I’m not a lawyer so my memory of these things is fuzzy, but doesn’t each side of a limited number of vetoes? Seems like they would have to or the process would go on forever.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
I’m gonna try to get some fur-burgers tonight to prepare my stomach for my feast tomorrow.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
@Jay V, you answered my question in comment 82 before I even asked it. Well done sir.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
To show the world that we care about them or some shit. To show that we dont think that we’re better than everyone, and sometimes the “father figure” has to bite the bullet.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
F-ing Bingo!!!! What the F is going on in the govt’s mind?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
You’re welcome. Every now and then that law degree is good for something.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
News Flash Walter Cronkite… the world doesn’t care if we are compassionate. Do you know how much money and aid we give around the world? People still hate us.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
A much lower percentage than people seem to think.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Honestly, just for the sake of playing Devil’s Advocate, because i don’t necessarilly disagree with you, but what laws do we charge the under. You take them into custody in America, they have the right to a fair and speedy trial. i mean, as big of fuckin assholes these guys are who deserve bullets in their heads, in order for America to not contradict itself and keep our credibility in times like these, we need change them under our laws. just sayin.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
What the F is going on in the govt’s mind?
I think the counter to what I wrote would be that the war on terror is as much about winning the intellectual battle with terrorism as it is actually killing/capturing the terrorists. If we can prove to the masses that are ambivalent to this country that we follow the laws and seek fair play at every juncture, that perhaps that takes some of the ammunition from the terrorists’ and the bile they spew out.
To the extent that an individual thinks this is possible or even worthwhile is also the extent to which they will think jury trials are important, in most cases.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
charge under our laws* not change
November 25th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Wrong they aren’t citizens.
/I’m done, I felt like Paolo today. Sorry guys, this is one thing I won’t back down on. Check the link on my username if you want the real story on the middle east
November 25th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Honestly, just for the sake of playing Devil’s Advocate, because i don’t necessarilly disagree with you, but what laws do we charge the under. You take them into custody in America, they have the right to a fair and speedy trial. i mean, as big of fuckin assholes these guys are who deserve bullets in their heads, in order for America to not contradict itself and keep our credibility in times like these, we need change them under our laws. just sayin.
I think much of the precedent under which these individuals will be tried under will be that of the initial World Trade bombers in 1993. I was only 10 when that happened so I can’t say I followed it too closely, but does anyone recall how that trial was prosecuted?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
They hate us because we have put soldiers in sacred lands and have companies that take advantage of countries, even going so far as to overthrow governments. What do you suggest, fucking nuke the world? You think the world consists of just the terrorists? They’re not the only ones paying attention to us. Every other nation that we are at war with, every country we do business with and every group that DOES hate us looks for a weakness, something that they can throw back at us. How about instead of just talking out of your ass you read a fucking book every once in a while.
/was it the bullet comment that set you off? You did the same shit to spence
November 25th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
We’re 17th in CDI.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Sorry couldn’t resist. You are wrong. Islamic extremism doesn’t care about fairness. They throw Acid in girls faces. Stone girls to death for having sex. Threaten to kill all members of ones family if they don’t grow poppys for them… shall I continue?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
The world sees “justice” whether that is actually what happens or not. These guys aren’t getting off or getting out, so for those who bring that possibility up just stop, you look stupid and juvenile. Of course the trials will be shams, but they will be convicted and sentenced to death. I have been told by every single politician (on either side) that we are a nation of laws. Well, let’s set up a trial that we are guaranteed to win and we can still cling to that premise (as false as it is at times). These what-if scenarios are so hilariously retarded.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
If you believe winning the hearts and minds to be utterly impossible than you should be openly advocating genocide in the area, since that seems to be the only alternate option. You can convert(to the extent they don’t wanto to kill us) or you can kill them all.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Sorry couldn’t resist. You are wrong. Islamic extremism doesn’t care about fairness. They throw Acid in girls faces. Stone girls to death for having sex. Threaten to kill all members of ones family if they don’t grow poppys for them… shall I continue?
I didn’t say that that was my position. I was pointing out both sides of the argument. The other side was a few comments above.
And of course you’re not going to win the intellectual argument with an Islamic extremist. I don’t believe any rational individual is saying that we should engage extremists. The actions I framed would not be addressed to the extremists, but to the ambivalent masses around the world whose opinions can change over time.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Holy smokes… Politics? Come on dudes. No fun. I’m about to drop another Simpsons or music bomb, but instead i’ll just “BallzDeep” one of my earlier posts that got no response. I apologize. I realize it’s against TBL etiquette. That being said, i’ll do it anyway. Whomever realizes what i’m talking about is…..cool.
/Curb’d
November 25th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
And as an addendum to what I just wrote, it bears mentioning that the extremists in Islam are a miniscule minority. So my personal position is that it is worth attemting to win hearts and minds. The manner over how we do that however is certainly open to discussion.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
You guys still will be hated on, regardless.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Nice, Ballz haha.
I cant talk politics on here anymore. I’m a republican, but apparently I dont come off that way since I have to argue against nuking one day and argue trying to help the world through diplomacy the next.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
We’re 17th in CDI.
Not exactly related, but we also are spending less, adjusted for inflation, on arts funding and the NEA than we were 17 years ago.
http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/31357/nea-gets-4-percent-raise-under-obama-budget/
November 25th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Friggin Nico Rosberg just signed on to drive for the new Mercedes team. He hasn’t done a damn thing in his career! It seems like if my last name was Senna I could get a ride! Talk about trading on your daddys name…
/whoever can name what the hell i’m talking about gets a meaningless internet point.
Boom. There it is. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you McLaughlin group typin’, boy likin’ mofo’s.
/I don’t really think you guys like boys. I though it sounded cool. Like when Conan used to have the lips of Don King on his old show.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Thank you. The next time I hear some dumbshit redneck say they hate us for our freedom I will go postal on someone. they could give a shit about freedom. They hate us because we invade them, bomb them and we don’t like it that they want to treat women like animals. Freedom has nothing to do with it.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Ballz here’s a quote that can go along with this topic:
Tennille: Tell me, young man, what do you want out of life?
(While Tennille was speaking, Homer is trying to reach a bowl of peas from the center of the table.)
Homer: I want peas!
Tennille: We all want peace! But it’s always just out of reach.
Homer: (moans) Uh huh?
Tennille: So, what’s the best way to get peace?
Homer: With the knife! (Gets his peas)
Tennille: Exactly! Not with the olive branch, but the bayonet! Ha, ha, Simpson, you’re like the son I never had.
Homer: And you’re like the father I never visit.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Ok, let’s change the subject:
This decade is coming to a close…top 5 athletes of the decade?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Sorry brah, I actually read a lot about it. look, I’m against all war, iraq and afganistan. it’s a stupid fight. War is very very ugly and needs to be avoided at all costs.
I don’t think anyone should be there… we have the technology to do what we need to remotely. My general theme is, nobody in the world is going to say, “Yay, the USA is compassionate! They held a trial! Let’s be nice now.”
Read the book “The Gamble” by Tom Ricks. He followed around Petraeus for a year and a half while he was developing his counter-insurgency plan and seeing it through.
Problem with the US is that we always want Black and White, Win or LOse… The middle east is very very gray and Obama needs to reiterate that. Our best best best result would be to remotely stablize Afganistan so we can get out.
/signing off. I’m going to get high now
November 25th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
We pretty obviously don’t really give a shit about this. It would be more accurate to say that they hate us because we don’t have the decency to treat our women like animals. Ayn Hirsi Ali’s “Infidel” is an excellent read if you want to know what it’s like to have your gentials mutilated.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Usain Bolt, Phelps, Kobe, Tiger, Manning
November 25th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Nice, Ballz haha.
I cant talk politics on here anymore. I’m a republican, but apparently I dont come off that way since I have to argue against nuking one day and argue trying to help the world through diplomacy the next.
Thanks for the lovely compliment. I think my ballz are nice too. Political/religious convos are just so futile. Let me know when someone actually changes their mind. I’ll eat my words.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
November 25th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
That’s hilarious Shatner. That episode escapes me though. Tennille?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Messed up the tag there, but the “are cyclists considered athletes?” argument always seems to generate fun discussions.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
You guys still will be hated on, regardless.
Spoken like a true Canadian.
/I forget, you’re Canadian, right?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I’m glad atleast some Americans understand. Keep your noses out of thier business, that’s all it is really.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
/boom’d
November 25th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
People hate the Yankees b/c they are the best.
To Quote Jack Nicholson in The Departed, “Heavy is the Crown”
November 25th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Mama, you have to do it gradually. One trial wont do anything, but over time you will eventually gain respect and comfort with the other party.
10,000 roses = 1 stab
November 25th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
The starting 5 of the 2008 Kansas Jayhawks
/topic over
November 25th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
This decade is coming to a close…top 5 athletes of the decade?
Great idea. In no particular order, IMO:
Kobe Bryant
Tom Brady
Michael Schumacher
Albert Pujols
Jerry Rice…. what?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
ballsdeep: correct my spelling but im sure artyn senna has a son. The guy who died because his suspension went through his helmet
November 25th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Ballz, it’s the episode where Homer joins the navy haha. It’s “Captain Tennile”
/It’s pronounced Nuk-le-ur. Nuk-le-ur.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Infidel is a great book Taguchi.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Sounds like a fun night in bed.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Good luck convincing something like that to the majority of Americans.
I still can’t believe there was an article up that claimed Brandon Roy was “unpatriotic” because he doesn’t stand with the rest of the team during the anthem and instead does his own prayers and such near the tunnel.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Shit! Jerry Rice was a joke. I totally forgot Lance Armstrong. One of my favs ever! I’m so ashamed. I remembered Brady but forgot Lance.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
This decade is coming to a close…top 5 athletes of the decade?
I’m going pure athlete, not necessarily accomplishment:
1: Usain Bolt
2: Adrian Peterson
3: Lebron
4: Tommie Harris
5: Iverson
I would have put in Serena Williams, but she’s a fat pig.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
best this decade:
Bryant
Phelps
Armstrong
Brady
Pujols
November 25th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I just read that today too, karma. Don’t know how much you know about John Canzano, but that dude is always trying to stir shit up.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
actually, Manning over Brady.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Didn’t ESPN do something like this like 4 or 5 years ago? I remember Lance finishing #1 and Michael Vick #2.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Also:
Manny Pac-man
Tom Brady
Kobe Bryant
Nadal or Federor (don’t follow tennis much but I know they’re legendary)
Tiger…Woods?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I still can’t believe there was an article up that claimed Brandon Roy was “unpatriotic” because he doesn’t stand with the rest of the team during the anthem and instead does his own prayers and such near the tunnel.
You are talking about a country that was requiring loyalty oaths by all state and federal employees under the pain of job loss as recently as 40 years ago. For better or for worse, Americans have strong attitudes regarding outward displays of loyalty and patriotism.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
1)Lance
2)Ditka
3)Hurricane named Ditka
4)Bolt
5)Spider Silva
November 25th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
haha, that stood the test of time. Best of the decade, after four or five years?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Actually, Phelps or Bolt over Tiger Woods.
What either did was unbelieveable.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Who is more NOW?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
I don’t think it was best of the decade, but best current athlete or something like that. I’ll go try to find it.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
If this is correct, Jimmie Johnson belongs on the list.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
how about most underrated?
Chase Utley
November 25th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
im playing fishville, fuck you guys.
/kidding.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Ballz, it’s the episode where Homer joins the navy haha. It’s “Captain Tennile”
Of course! I just got back to my hometown for thanksgiving, and I left my brain in OC.
ballsdeep: correct my spelling but im sure artyn senna has a son. The guy who died because his suspension went through his helmet
My nigga! Good job by you Texan. I’ll have to rethink my opinion on texas after today. Ayrton Senna does have a nephew who races. Bruno Senna. He can expect a drive with Ferrari in his rookie season apparently.
/Formula 1 folks.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
he only has 4 championships because of the chase. fuck that guy and fuck nascar
November 25th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
My vote:
Federer, Tiger, Phelps, Peyton, Brady
November 25th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
NDAMUKONH SUH!!!!!!!
/not really, just love typing that
November 25th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Found it. I remember there being an NCAA-style voting tournament for it, kinda like TBL’s culture bracket.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I do enjoy typing it better when I spell it correctly.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
i have to draw the line at that one on the basis a machine does most of his work, he just makes left handed turns for 5 hours.
in terms of auto racing, NASCAR falls on the bottom of the list in comparison to GranPrix, Formula1, RallySport etc.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Ok, my official list:
Lance Armstrong
Kobe Bryant
Albert Pujols
Tom Brady
Michael Schumacher
/I actually forgot about Woods, but I don’t consider golf a sport. If I can smoke cigs/weed and drink beer while doing it, it’s not a sport.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
ah yes, the NOW crap ha.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
in terms of auto racing, NASCAR falls on the bottom of the list in comparison to GranPrix, Formula1, RallySport etc.
Same thing? What do you consider GranPrix? And F1 should be at the top of the list.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
if nascar isnt careful IRL is going to surpass them. fucking brian france.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
75% of America doesn’t even know who this guy is. i had to think twice.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
schumacher made a billion dollars didnt he?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
ok, is the topic gets on NASCAR or racing, i’m making an outrageous comment about terrorism to piss people off and change the subject.
/you’ve been warned
November 25th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
@BallzDeep: I was thinking of the 24 hour lemans type
November 25th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
i wouldnt mind lol
November 25th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
schumacher made a billion dollars didnt he?
Wouldn’t be surprised. At the height of his last contract, I believe he was earning in the neighborhood of $95 million per year. Give or take a few million.
November 25th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
man im having my kids play all kinds of sports and entering them in go-kart races
November 25th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
was this a shot at me?
November 25th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
should have added the /living my life through my kids tag
November 25th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I’m fish outta water on this one. Have a good thxgiving fellas. tip your cab!
November 25th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
If I can smoke cigs/weed and drink beer while doing it, it’s not a sport.
What about baseball?
November 25th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
im sure, mrejr. what the fuck happened? i thought you two were cool? he deleted his blog over a loss? why is he hiding?
November 25th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
/I actually forgot about Woods, but I don’t consider golf a sport. If I can smoke cigs/weed and drink beer while doing it, it’s not a sport.
We used to get high and drink beer and go biking all the time. Please remove Armstrong from the list.
/Did you mean during a competition?
November 25th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
you can go skinny dipping while drunk. remove phelps from the list
November 25th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
you can drive while drunk, therefore no drivers should be on this list.
/thank you, thank you
November 25th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
We used to get high and drink beer and go biking all the time. Please remove Armstrong from the list.
/Did you mean during a competition?
Europeans have also proven that you can smoke while cycling.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
@BallzDeep: I was thinking of the 24 hour lemans type
Oh. I think it’s considered either sports car racing, or maybe grand touring.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Here’s Schumi’s records. I know while he was racing he was the highest paid athlete in the world.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
you all talked about the explanation behind Affeldt getting the MVP vote earlier, right?
November 25th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I know i’m in the minority when it comes to golf. I’m used to it. I just can’t put golfers up there with the best athletes though. Fat asses and old people can play it. I don’t know. I’ve been in enough arguments about it. I stand by my list.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Alright boys and girls. It’s been real. Skipping out on work early to run some errands and hit the books. Everyone have a nice Thanksgiving.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
you too
November 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
you can drive while drunk, therefore no drivers should be on this list.
Can’t race though. Your welcome.
We used to get high and drink beer and go biking all the time. Please remove Armstrong from the list.
I’m sorry. The Tour de France is my favorite event of the year. All those guys are amazing. Imagine riding a bike 112 miles across 4 mountain climbs/descents. And he was the Man. It’s the hardest event in the world. Try giving it a chance this summer. I know i’m not a weirdo. Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwin are great too.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
thought about an allen iverson post … F it.
/dips into fridge for 3rd beer
November 25th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
for us jim caldwell haters
November 25th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
dont know dont care. any shots at me from him just consider the source. i have no beef because i dont care.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I like the bowl system… That’s all I got.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
i only asked because i thought you wrote for him. i was just wondering what the hell was going on and im sure im not the only one.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I love you BAllzdeep. Just listening to the banter between these guys is amazing, if not pure comedy. I used to race Cat2/3, 60-80 mile races… and I trained 2-4 hours a day.
I would get absolutely anhialated by those guys. LAnce is easily #1
Phelps would be 1B though.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
i only asked because i thought you wrote for him. i was just wondering what the hell was going on and im sure im not the only one.
I think they did it, and don’t want to think/talk about the horror, but each is afraid that the other is going to spill the beans. And I think Mrejr was the top.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
i did but apparently the guy is a sensitive bitch “when he is drunk” and dont like getting ribbed about his hawkeyes. im done with it.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
oh okay
November 25th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
anyway: should i start maroney over justin forsett? i know the saints have had a small problem(i saud it was a small priblem ! calm down siants fans!)stopping the run and mariney has been kinda hot lately. but forsett catches passes out of the backfield and im in a ppr league and forsett is playing the rams who suck(/waves at taguchi)
November 25th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I love you BAllzdeep. Just listening to the banter between these guys is amazing, if not pure comedy. I used to race Cat2/3, 60-80 mile races… and I trained 2-4 hours a day.
I would get absolutely anhialated by those guys. LAnce is easily #1
Groovy dude. Good to know i’m not the only one who appreciates the Tour. I know using the word “appreciate” makes me sound douchey. It’s true though. I gave it a chance. Mountain stages are one of the most riveting thing in sports. Multiplied by 100x when Lance is involved. Flat stages are kinda boring though.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
im in a league and i still have no idea what a ppr league is
November 25th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Point Per Reception. it fucking sucks unless you can stack your team with dudes who get hot on a certain week.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Points Per Reception
November 25th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Leach!
“When I see the stuff New England’s running, it looks familiar. I don’t think that New England came up with the idea independently to throw a bubble screen to a thick-legged white kid. (Laughing) ”
http://news.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/?p=4799&srvc=home&position=recent
November 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
fuck you Mike Leach, wake me up when you win something. O
November 25th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I had a professor in college who was a tour historian, he went to France and road the course. Pretty cool guy.
November 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
sounds lie some goddamn hippy.
/spits
//hardass’d
November 25th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
like*
November 25th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I had a professor in college who was a tour historian, he went to France and road the course. Pretty cool guy
Tour historian? What subject did he teach?
sounds lie some goddamn hippy.
Yea! What kind of homo would enjoy biking across the French countryside?!?!
November 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
This beef aint over.
/Many Men’d
November 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
i know right?
/for the record i was joking
November 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
God hates fags.
/mrejr
//kidding
November 25th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
/for the record i was joking
I thought so. No worries.
God hates fags.
/mrejr
//kidding
Geez fellas. I know there’s been a shitload of drama lately, but we don’t need to tip-toe around eachother. It’s me! BallzDeep! We can be grownups. Just don’t start trashing Jerry Rice, Vin Scully, or the Beatles. Then the gloves come off… and smiles dissappear. Then knives appear…
November 25th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
I’m sorry. The Tour de France is my favorite event of the year. All those guys are amazing. Balllz
Oh, hell. You didn’t see my tag. We just used to get high and take beer in our camelbacks on Mt. biking rides. No competition. I have nothing but respect for road riders. That shit is hard. We couldn’t even keep up with the road riders when the slummed and went mt. biking with us.
November 25th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Oh, and fuck Vin Schully.
/just got to my mother’s house and the first thing she wanted done was to sharpen her knives.
//true story.
November 25th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
/Did you mean during a competition?
Oh, ok. I get it now.
November 25th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Oh, and fuck Vin Scully.
Wait, what??!! But, why?
November 25th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Oh, and fuck Vin Scully.
Wait, what??!! But, why?
Curt Gowdy
/deja vu of BallzDeep’s first comment on here when he came at me 200 MPH
/no grudge-serious
November 25th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
wisconsin +2 = free money
November 25th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Oh, and fuck Vin Scully.
Wait, what??!! But, why?
Ballz
Keep up. You mentioned knives and I was sharpening knives a half hour ago. I have no hate for Vin. Just making a funny that fell flat on its face. I fail.
November 25th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Keep up. You mentioned knives and I was sharpening knives a half hour ago. I have no hate for Vin. Just making a funny that fell flat on its face. I fail.
I figured you may be joking. The only reason it may have fell on it’s face was because of you miss-spelling Scully. Grammar/spelling errors are always death, no matter how funny the comment. I got it.
/deja vu of BallzDeep’s first comment on here when he came at me 200 MPH
/no grudge-serious
Again, no worries. I shouldn’t have jumped down your throat like I did. That wasn’t my first comment though. My very first comment was me clumsily sticking up for the Erin Andrews peeper when he got caught. I’ll try to find those threads. It’ll be hard though.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Wash your hands in lye after that thread.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Wash your hands in lye after that thread.
Huh? Why?
November 25th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
and drinking starts now.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Here’s my first non-mediated post. I was nervous, and incapable of articulating my point correctly.
/Souvenir City totally called me out a few comments later. It scared me away for a few days.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Iverson retires*
*no one wants him so he quit.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
yeah I am fucking driunk right now. Im not making it out of my house
November 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Ditto. I got my Miller Lite goin right now. Got a bottle of Red Wine in the Fridge.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Ballz, he taught one of my History courses heres what the school web site has to say about him.
Chris Thompson is the author of The Tour de France: A Cultural History, published by the University of California Press (2006). He is in the preliminary stages of researching his second book, More than just a Game: Sport and Society in Interwar France. Thompson is the author of several articles on the social and cultural history of bicycling in France. Thompson was the Recipient of Ball State’s 2002 Excellence in Teaching Award, in which he taught a “dream course” entitled “Looking Back to the Future: A History of the 21st Century.” The reading assignments for this course exposed students to a variety of perspectives about the future and helped them identify critical challenges facing humanity.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
/jmorris?
November 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
also, there is the hottest milf ever on wheel of fortune right now
November 25th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
The only reason it may have fell on it’s face was because of you miss-spelling Scully.
Two words from me… Brown liquor. Happy Thanksgiving all.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Wife helping the mother-in-law cook. Kids playing the 360. Basketball is on. I have beer and nothing else to do. Life is good. It’ll be better if the Saints-Pats game was on and I was getting a bj while another naked chick was handing me a beer, but you have to be thankful for the small things sometimes…
November 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Sallie Mae: One of those “Breaking Away” guys from IU?
/I’m in for the night…finally ready to crack one or seven
/nightmare out there today
November 25th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
It’ll be better if the Saints-Pats game was on and I was getting a bj while another naked chick was handing me a beer, but you have to be thankful for the small things sometimes…
November 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
I work Monday. wife won’t let a naked chick walk around handing me beers. Tis bullshit.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
great shot by petrus. Wade had a great block on him earlier, he got him back just now.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
It’ll be better if the Saints-Pats game was on and I was getting a bj while another naked chick was handing me a beer
I told this on here before, but the newbies may not have heard this:
when I was in college, my roommate, who was an Indiana pig farmer, had a routine with his girlfriend that she would come over every night and watch M*A*S*H at 11PM (sometimes 10, depending on DST).
He would sit in a recliner, put in a dip, crack a beer, and she would blow him while he watched M*A*S*H. Every night, five nights a week, for the whole year. It was a complete ritual. My other roommate and I would leave at like 10:55, go hang out for a half-hour, then come back to the room. Dude had it made.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
i envy all you people. Fuck driving on thanksgiving
November 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
No one ever believe your old WWII stories, jpq. I’m sorry.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I now think ND should hire Harbaugh over Kelly. Unless they think Harbaugh will eventually go to Michigan. I thought there was rift between Harbaugh and Michigan though….don’t remember the details.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I was supposed to go to New Orleans this Thanksgiving, but I couldn’t get this weekend off. Was looking forward to the Bayou Classic, wasn’t looking forward for the drive. Maybe next year.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
jpq: was she a union or confederate?
November 25th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
No one ever believe your old WWII stories, jpq. I’m sorry.
mak: first of all it was 1980’s stories, not WWII, and how anybody thinks I could/would make some of the shit up that I say on here (sportsgal) can blow me the next time M*A*S*H is on
jpq: was she a union or confederate?
fetch: based on when it was, it was probably your Mother
November 25th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Wow, AI retired.
The Answer has been solved.
/Cliche ESPN title’d
Also, Yahoo broke the story, not ESPN.
/ Fuck ESPN
November 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Jerry Rice = system WR
Vin Scully = he’s only been there for so long because Dodger fans are so apathetic about baseball (get there in the 3rd, leave in the 7th) and he tells a lot of non-baseball stories
Beatles = not as good as the Stones, docked points because they let a little Asian chick break them up
/that is all, Happy Thanksgiving
November 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
No, Michigan needs Les Miles. Please take him.
I just can’t get that Ole Miss game out of my head. That was the poorest coaching job I’ve ever seen.
November 25th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My mom was born without a lower jaw. Thanks for bringing that up, cocksucker.
/may or may not be accurate
November 25th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
jpq, did you see the link? I found the link. See, i’m a romantic.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
And not a very good one. He was like the 3rd or 4th WR on the Seahawks in Holmgren’s west coast offense.
/piling on
November 25th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Jerry Rice = system WR
Vin Scully = he’s only been there for so long because Dodger fans are so apathetic about baseball (get there in the 3rd, leave in the 7th) and he tells a lot of non-baseball stories
Beatles = not as good as the Stones, docked points because they let a little Asian chick break them up
If your name wasn’t clown, I might be inclined to get angry.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Tampa, red wine in the fridge?
Paul Giamatti is fucking furious.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Im liking Qdoba. Gonna hit it up again tonight.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
I like it Chilled.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Clown you say a lot of dumb fucking shit but the Rice system wideout is outstanding. You seem like a I got a lot of wedgies and wet willies, still do I’m guessing.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Tampa, red wine in the fridge?
Paul Giamatti is fucking furious.
I like it Chilled.
fuck that, throw some ice cubes in there
/HATE wine
November 25th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Sorry, dude, that sucks.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
its 8:17 and Im alittle drunk. About to hit Qdoba up.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Im liking Qdoba. Gonna hit it up again tonight.
What’s that?
November 25th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
The fuck? You NoCal sonsabitches don’t have Qdoba?
November 25th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Clown you say a lot of dumb fucking shit but the Rice system wideout is outstanding. You seem like a I got a lot of wedgies and wet willies, still do I’m guessing.
Many others use that joke against me. None were serious.
/not laughing
November 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Derek Loville > Bobby Humphrey
November 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Fuck that. Carlos Rossi Sangria is the shit.
/trailer trashed’d
November 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Tampa- You said last night you didnt like Qdoba
November 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Fags drinks Miller Lite. Fag.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I hate win but I’ll drink Carlos Rossi on the rocks. A jug at that. Wicked hangover the next day.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I guess I’m balls deep in some body builder I met at the gym.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
The fuck? You NoCal sonsabitches don’t have Qdoba?
NoCal? I was born in Sacramento, and lived there until I was 9. Hence the 49er fandom. Moved to my Dad’s in SoCal from 4th grade on, hence the Dodger/Laker fandom.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Sounds like it. This is common knowledge only bitches drink ML. Very common.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
LOL
November 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
What do you drink?
November 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Iverson might be my most favoritest player of all time. That said, I really hope he gets into coaching.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
he wont hold practice.
/someone could make a better joke out of that
November 25th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Allen Iverson used to sit in the Sixers locker room and eat burritos during practice. He’s the best.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Bud Light.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Fucking throwdown time.
Everyone knows it’s John Keyworth.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Your mother drinks my Hot Queso.
/Bud Light is trash
November 25th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
This ‘merica I can change my mind.
/Had Taco Bell for lunch
November 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
It’s ok Bo, I like you and won’t tell anyone you enjoy receiving double penetration.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Bulldog I wont tell anyone you drink your shitty bud light through your ass.
/Cans not bottles
November 25th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Hey that was our secret, so much for our friendship.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Sorry, but Miller Lite rapes Bud Light in an alley.
Fun fact about ML: it was originally owned by Meister Brau, and was marketed as Meister Brau Lite. Obvious failure. They sold to Miller, Miller attached an ad campaign. etc.
November 25th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Epic fail. Stop talking seriously before your dad gets on here.
November 25th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
everybody have a Happy Thanksgiving
November 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Miller FTW
/Grew up next to a Bud facility
November 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
jgp you have a great one. Everyone have a great Spanksgiving. Even Clown(who gets wet willies and wedgies to this day).
November 25th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Sorry, but Miller Lite rapes Bud Light in an alley.
troof.
November 25th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
I say Paolo should be unbanned if he comes back as Oloap.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Miller Lite and Bud Light are both disgusting.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Enjoy
November 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Wow. I was ripping VC early this week on here, but that was a big fucking shot.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Half-man/Half-amazing with a clutch 3 with 14 seconds left. Howard has been Shaq-like at the line, and Wade went off at the beginning of the qtr. Good game.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
I believe it, cj. It’s couldn’t have been just one person without any other ref knowing.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Enjoy it now VC will be hurt 3/4s through the season.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Vince did something? Shit, Irish’s case is building.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
SUPER BEAS ON A BITCH!!!
November 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
That was goaltending by Beasley.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Is Vince hurt? If so, did Tampa just jinx him?
November 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I retract my last statement.
/yes. Super Beas on a bitch
//Blaze that shit up
November 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
For the record it’s “Super Cool Beas”
November 25th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Wow. Duke looks just as slow as usual. They are going to get romped by a guard heavy team in the tourney again.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
terrible ending in orlando for the magic. great play by Beasley, probably the highlight of his career
tougher chore is getting on a plane tonight to go to ATL tomorrow
November 25th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
rs – the TV has been commandeered by Call of Duty players. no eyes on duke. what’s happening?
November 25th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Arizona State is out scrapping Duke and Singler having a bad game. Game tied at 41. ASU players beating Duke to loose balls and getting open looks at the basket almost every trip. Only one guy on Duke can break the D down (Nolan Smith). Their bigs are terrible. This is a carbon copy of last season.
If ASU was getting a little better whistle they would be up 4-6.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Also your boy Scheyer is the only reason Duke is winning right now. He’s made some huge plays when Duke’s been in trouble.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
ok, going to watch the game online.
i had glasser on my fantasy team but had to drop his ass – what a waste
November 25th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
The Nolan Smith story is really great. Tom Friend wrote about it last year. Almost makes me root for Duke.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
I loved Jay Williams’ halftime rationalization: They don’t have Mason Plumlee! Loved it even more when Gottlieb called him on it for the BS it is.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Hard, hard foul by Cincy on the Gonzaga PG. tensions high … order restored
November 25th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Super Cool Beas. how did I forget the cool part?
November 25th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Night Owl Alert:
Padma on Fallon’s show tonight. Saw the outfit. Might be worth staying up for a bit…
November 25th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Stanford/Kentucky tied with 2:40 to play
November 25th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Wally – but she’s pregnant!
cass – please keep us posted on that one.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
John Wall just tied it up again with 30 to play.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
She was sitting, so I couldn’t tell… And, I didn’t know that. Good to know.
It could also be that my wife is too, so I’ve got that pregnant woman attraction thing going on… Hmmm…
November 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
You’re still high. You can imagine what pregnancy has done to a certain area on her. And no, not her belly
November 25th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Cousins clangs two free throws, Stanford up 2 with 9.5 to play and the ball at the line.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Now John Wall at the line with a chance to tie
November 25th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
And he does, tied w/ 2.4 to play, looks like overtime.
November 25th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
nice to see Landry Fields beastin’
had him in fantasy last year and he was OK … he’s a terror this year. he’s a fixture in my starting lineup with
Frederette (BYU) – Quayle/Warren are my backups
Manny Harris
Fields
Green (Alabama) and Ogilvy (Vandy, much weaker this season) inside
November 25th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
anyone wants to see stanford/uk OT, go here
http://www.justin.tv/cbb2k8
November 25th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
kentucky will survive. clutch deep 3 from bledsoe with 20 seconds left was the difference.
the more i see john wall, the more im convinced there’s no way Kentucky’s losing a tourney game before the F4. close games? sure. regular season losses? Yup. maybe a really bad reg season loss, like to georgia? sure.
but in march, i can’t imagine them not reaching the f4
November 26th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Stanford lost to Oral Roberts. Kentucky has fraud written all over ‘em.