We Should Also Ask Marbury About Iraq and the Federal Deficit
Uncategorized August 22nd. 2007, 9:58am
Sometimes, words just aren’t necessary. Often, these stories involve the presiding genius of Stephon Marbury. The Knicks point guard talked about Mike Vick this week: “We don’t say anything about people shooting deers and shooting other animals, you know what I mean?” Marbury said in an interview that was aired by Capital 9 News in Albany. “From what I hear, dogfighting is a sport. It’s just behind closed doors and I think it’s tough that we build Michael Vick up and then we break him down … I think he fell into a bad situation.”
And … go.
Marbury defends Vick calling him a “good human being” (Newsday)
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August 22nd, 2007 at 10:01 am
I don’t think any of us really need to break down Stephon’s comments point by point. It goes without saying.
What’s more baffling is how he can look quasi-classy while still showing off the neck tattoo. Well done.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 am
Everytime I read a Marbury quote…I have a taste for gun metal.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:09 am
I heard a clip of Roy Jones on SC defending it as well (which isn’t surprising because back when I listened to Jim Rome he was on one day talking about raising his Fightin’ Roosters)
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 am
No wonder Gilbert Arenas nominated Starbury for best interview of the year on his blog.
Isn’t it funny how intelligence without education can make you sound dumber than a genuine dumbass?
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:18 am
can Marbury just go to Italy already?
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:36 am
I am reading a book about Coney Island and Stephon Marbury now. In my estimation, he probably has a 8/9th grade education at best. But his streetsmarts alone have to account for better than this… I mean, hunting has been a topic that PETA has protested on several occasions. Now, I am against hunting for sport as I find it pretty cruel as well- but dogfighting is a completely seperate facet. Hunting, is quick and short. One shot- dead. If not dead, then upon tracking the animal, mercy killing it is quick as well. But dogs mutilate each other and then get killed (in some cases inhumanely – drowning, amatuer electrocution, or beaten) just because they aren’t good enough to fight.
The bottom line is- yes, this whole Michael Vick thing has been magnified more than athletes imagined. But he was a premier athlete, unparalleled in some of his abilities, in THE premier american sport, that bankrolled and initiated an underground gambling ring (illegal) that bet on dogfighting (illegal) and then inhumanely killed the dogs (illegal). How the hell can you defend him?
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 am
What boggles my mind is Stephon’s (and others’) belief that Vick “fell into this situation.” Vick chose to participate. Sadly, it was only the dogs who were forced to do anything.
The other topic that frustrates me are the people who claim that the Feds targeting Vick because he is a black athlete. As I’ve stated in other posts, I recognize that racism exists in this country to a degree that cannot and should not be ignored. It’s atrocious at times. But, to think that members of law enforcement and the judicial system, en masse ,sit around flipping through a copy of ESPN magazine looking for black athletes to bust for something is insane. Vick ran a fairly large dog fighting operation and word got out. Should the Feds ignore it because he’s an athlete? Of course not. Nor should they go after him any harder because of it. They should just do their jobs, which it appears as if they are doing.
I’ll step down from my soapbox now.
Good day.
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:49 am
These guys like Marlboro or whatever the hell his name is, better get a clue from this.
Vick lost EVERYTHING in a very Lawrence Phillips-style bout with stupidity…
Boggles the mind to think of the economic impact to Vick of all this…
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:54 am
I fail to see how hunting a deer is on par with forcing two dogs to rip each other to shreds. Deer overpopulate this country and taste good. Doggies are man’s best friend or something (I’m not personally a fan of dogs).
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:05 am
I said it before, and I’ll say it again:
Your local animal shelter kills dogs and cats across the country on a daily basis because of the inconvenience of having to house them beyond a certain period of time. Dogs are put to death on a daily basis across this country because they’ve done what dogs do, bite and/or attack. The law doesn’t look at Dr. Jack as being humane when he puts people out of their miseries. That’s because other than this case, people do realize the difference between humans and dogs. In this case, you get a longer sentence being a black QB killing dogs, than being a white woman killing your husband or kids.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:16 am
“The law doesn’t look at Dr. Jack as being humane when he puts people out of their miseries.” Umm. Dr. Kevorkian correct? He served time in jail for his assisted suicides. Darrell get some sense, your words are filled with rage in defense of a man who committed a felony and then spent the last 3 months telling everyone he was innocent. Innocent? He’s exepting a plea deal! He can’t be that innocent if thats the case, no matter how much conspiracy people try to claim.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:18 am
Darrell, there’s a difference between killing an animal for a damn good reason (money, space, disease) as opposed to TORTURING your pets. And “black QB” has nothing to do with it, you should replace “black QB” with “ignorant fuckwad who thinks he’s above the law.” If this was Tom Brady he’d be in the same trouble. The only thing “black” has to do with this is ignorance in the black community. Starbury, Deion, Emmitt, Portis, Samuels, Roy Jones Jr., all are the same. I have yet to see a white person defend Vick/dogfighting.
as for Kevorkian, he just pissed off the prosecutor by being arrogant. He does wonderful things for suffering people, he should just be less of a scofflaw about it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:24 am
rwb2ct, personally I’m waiting on Vick to prove his innocence. Hey, he promised! hahaha, you should live in Atlanta, where people are on tv every day defending him. one (black) guy said of the Feds, “They should dig up their own back yards before they go diggin’ up his!” Because all the Feds have tortured dog carcasses in their back yards, I guess. At least according to that guy.
I still think the worst part of all this ordeal is when Vick played the Mom card and the “God is testing me” card. good times, good times. so I guess we can score this: God 1, Vick 0. Don’t fuck with the Lord!
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:26 am
The point of referencing Dr. Jack is that although people may see Dr. Jack’s suicide assistance as being more humane than them dying a slow, painful death, the law doesn’t see it that way. Although those who requested to be poisoned to death saw this as a way to not be a burden or incovenience on their families, the law doesn’t see it that way. Yet, everyday, dogs are killed by government ran or funded agencies because keeping them around too long is an inconvenience. I know Kervorkian spent some time in jail, hence the sentence “The law doesn’t look at Dr. Jack as being humane when he puts people out of their miseries.” Now spend less time trying to guess as to my emotions in posting and spend more time trying to accurately respond.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:29 am
Darrell, the local animal shelter kills dogs and cats by humanely euthanizing them, not by electrocuting or hanging them. And Vick isn’t going to jail solely because he was involved in raising dogs to kill each other, he’s going to jail because he established and funded a massive ILLEGAL business that involved gambling! The maximum sentence in most states for felonius animal cruelty is 12 months in prison. How is he going to get 18-30 months in prison if he’s only being convicted of animal cruelty? Moron.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:30 am
This could get out of hand quickly.
The bottom line is that Michael Vick broke the law, and he’s admitting it. Right/Wrong/Fair/Unfair/Ethical/Immoral, Michael knew the law and broke it anyways. This wasn’t an act of civil disobedience in order to prove a point about animals, but rather a scheme to make money. I certainly don’t agree with Mike’s logic, but that seems to be the best explanation I could come up with.
Finally, if you think there are others to blame for Michael’s actions…you just don’t get life. Michael has no one to blame but himself for his actions. Period.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:37 am
Interesting analogy Marbury makes between a dog and a deer; perhaps he has had a dog for his meal or wears dog fur. Now the self-promoting NY Knick likens himself to Beckham. He should stop taking those hallucinogenic drugs.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 am
Sportsgal, sweety, why are you telling me about the maximum amount of time for animal cruelty in most states, when we are talking about a Federal case here? Just more of an example of being too emotional to think things out, which is a common characteristic of sheeple membership. Euthaninzing, electrocuting, feeding them tainted dog food from China on purpose, it’s all killing. The description is for emotional purposes only.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 am
Michael being Manny, I agree that he broke the law and has to pay for it. My beef is about the sheeple and their selective activism.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:44 am
FLAME WAR!!!!
Darrell makes absolutely no sense.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:48 am
Darrell, if you truly don’t see the difference between euthanizing an animal and electrocuting/poisoning one, I don’t know what to tell you. As for Marbury (and others), all I can say there is stupid people need to start shutting the f*ck up.
August 22nd, 2007 at 11:55 am
Darell, sugar, I got to say that I love your posts. They are very funny although they do lack any factual thought or intelligence. It was great how your tried to undercut sportsgal’s argument by being patronizing and discrediting her because she is female. Vick could use you on his defense team because we all know what a great track record he has of surrounding himself with quality people.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Here is the thing that alot a people are missing. What was the original reason that the Feds and local authorities were looking at this house. Drugs if I am not mistaken. Then they find out that the house is owned by Mike Vick who is the owner of a Dog breeding company.
Everyone is looking at Mike Vick as the ring leader of this situation and honestly what he is guilty of is being a Wealthy athlete helping out family and friends. I am not saying that Vick isn’t wrong if he killed dogs because that’s stupid on his part f he did that. But lets look at some things in the situation.
1. Everything is in Vick’s name.
2. Vick sends money to pay for breeding equipment for his business.
3. His cousin could have taken the money from this and purchase drugs with it and “illegally” funded the dog fighting. Remember his cousin was living there and for some reason was not in the feds paperwork.
If he is guilty of sending money for the dog breeding then that should be it!
Please tell me that this doesn’t look funny to you! Stop looking at the money that Vick has to fund this and look at where the other money (drug money) could have been used to fund this as well!
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Coach K, if you call pointing out the fact that SportsGal referred to State laws when talking about a Federal case, undercutting her argument because she is a female, then so be it.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pm
Darrell, “sweety”, I mentioned the penalty for animal cruelty to prove the point that Vick isn’t going to jail for killing dogs. Do you really think the federal government would get involved in a high profile case like this if the only crime the could pin Vick to is felony animal cruelty? He’s going to jail for being a part of an illegal gambling ring and money laundering.
People are pointing out the fact that you’re a patronizing moron, not that I’m an emotional female that likes animals.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Sportsgal116 – 1
Darrell – 0
ESPN’s 25 hour college football kickoff – worse than Who’s Now?
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Anyone else hoping Ingnorantbury releases a line of cheap deerskin shoes? I could go for some of those.
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Stephon is a one-step forward, one-step back kind of guy. This is a big step back.
What next? Why not say “Hey, we’ve all been mad at our ex-wives when they’re spending our money on other guys. Of course I can see how OJ would have gone off!”??
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 pm
” I don’t see what’s wrong w/ Vick killin’ those dogs, I mean I ate a steak last night…that means people go ’round killing cattles. I swatted a mosquito off my arm last night, does that mean I should be arrested.”
-Future Marbury
“I’m sorry, I don’t know what got into me today. I was totally wrong from my first post on.”
-Future Darrel
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Marbury was probably using the hide of those dead pit bulls for his cheapass Starbury’s.
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Are those shoes made out of cardboard or leather?
BTW, check out what happened to this guy when he killed *one* dog.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07232/810862-100.stm
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:10 pm
ScottVanPeltStyle, I don’t think it’s humanly possible to have programming worse than Who’s Now?…but it will be interesting to see how many times the same 3 or 4 stories get told by different people during the college football broadcast….not that i’m going to waste time watching it…i’ll just read some blog about it’s absurdity
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Sportsgal, Boo Boo, you mentioned what the various State charges would be in regards to a Federal case, when in fact one had no bearing on the other. Now, maybe, there was another message you were trying to convey, but don’t get mad at me for your inability to articulate it. Now, as I’ve stated before, I have a problem with the selective activism of people on this issue. I have a problem with the demonizing of Vick, while we accept killing animals every day. Whether Vick killed his dogs because of performance, or shelters kill dogs because of space, they’re both done for a matter of convenience. Vick will do his 6 months in the clink and 6 months under house arrest, play next year, and the sheeple will long forget about the dogs, just like they forgot about Schiavo, Imus, Kobe etc. and find another issue to be outraged about.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Is Deer Fighting legal?
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Dogfighting sure isn’t.
http://xtrapoint.wordpress.com/2007/07/25/extra-point-before-vick-there-was-david-tant/
Sooo, this guy is white…
He got some MAJOR jail time.
“After entering his guilty plea, Tant was sentenced to 40 years in jail. At the time, that was believed to be the heaviest sentence ever against anyone charged with dogfighting in the state and one of the longest sentences in the nation’s history.”
Could the same happen to Mike?
If not, why not? Will he get off because of his celebrity and wealth?
H/T SBP
August 22nd, 2007 at 7:19 pm
The sheeple will forget about Schiavo, Imus, Kobe…..
What exactly are we forgetting? Teri Schiavo, according to the courts, had made her wishes known that she did not want to exist in a vegetative state. Her husband fought for her rights and won. Where was the outrage? Imus, he said some very stupid things, but no worse than any rap song that is on the radio that my 12 year old step-son listens to. Finally, Kobe, hmm, a young woman goes to a hotel room alone with a married basketball star whose wife is back home. What exactly do you think she wanted/expected to happen? I don’t like that animals are euthanized either because they are overpopulated but that is the way it is. They aren’t tortured to death. Oh, and I will wait for my response accompanied by either honeybun or sweetcheeks…
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:50 pm
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/articles/tant.html
“Tant’s guilty plea means more than 40 pit bulls he owned will be put to death.
The animals have been kept on what Tant called �death row� in a Charleston County shelter since spring, pending resolution of the trial. But Charlie Karesh, a shelter official, said the pit bulls are too vicious to adopt out and should be euthanized. Housing them cost the county more than $100,000.
�We would be liable, and Charleston County would be liable, if we were to put one of these animals out to the public and it tore somebody up or tore up another animal,� Karesh said.”
The Pit Bulls were no longer able to be executed for Tant’s convenience, but they were executed for the Government’s. Any way, they’re just as dead.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:39 am
Many of you guys are upset that some black folks are defending Michael Vick. The reality of it is simple- black people do not look at dogs the same way white people do. Many white people look at dogs as almost human. I’ve heard white people refer to their dog as a”part of the family”.Most black people look at dogs as merely animals that can be easily replaced.
I also believe a lot of blacks are behind Vick because they feel the case has received an inordinate amount of press. Black teenagers are getting killed in the streets everyday and nobody gives a shit. Why doesn’t PETA protest these deaths?
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:59 am
“I also believe a lot of blacks are behind Vick because they feel the case has received an inordinate amount of press. Black teenagers are getting killed in the streets everyday and nobody gives a shit. Why doesn’t PETA protest these deaths?”
If this had been Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, you think this wouldn’t have gotten an inordinate amount of press?? You want to know how to keep from getting an inordinate amount of press for running a dog fighting ring and killing dogs? Don’t get caught running a dog fighting ring or killing dogs.
This is why the prosecutors were so eager to get a plea deal on this case and not have it go to trial. If Vick had been arrested for killing 20 babies (or veal cows) and was caught in the act, there would still be a large percentage of black people that would rationalize his behavior by throwing up some bullshit smoke screen argument.
August 23rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Hey Dirty
I meant an inordinate amount of press compared to much more serious crimes which occur everyday.
And do you really believe most black people would try to rationalize his behaviour if he killed 20 humans?
Where are you from? Boston?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Larry,
We live in a celebrity obsessed society, so of course the details of one of the highest profile athletes in the most popular U.S. sports league is going to get an inordinate amount of press. Look at how much press and coverage Britney or Paris Hilton get with their whoring and general hijinks.
I just don’t think the people that are complaining about all of the attention given to Vick would be complaining if it were Brady or Manning. Speaking for myself, I wouldn’t be “behind” either of those guys if they were involved in the stuff that Vick has now pled guilty to. My allegiance to decent human beings is much higher on my ladder of loyalty than to someone who simply is the same race as me.
And yes, I was being a little facetious when I said that Vick would get the same amount of support if he had killed 20 humans. But I would suggest that the number is someone between 2 (like say an ex-wife and a waiter) and 20.
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Vick’s Pit Bulls are due to be put to death within the next few days. I’m waiting for the supposed outraged to stand and deliver for these poor creatures, or just maybe your “bullshit smokescreen” will be called for what it is.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Guinness, you ask where was the outrage in the Schiavo case? Maybe it came in the form of a national firestorm being formed from a private decision that families make everyday. It came from ignoring that all laws gives a spouse precedence over parents. It came from Christian groups ignoring Christian law in this instance (you know the whole husband and wife cleaved thing) just to push forth their agenda. There was plenty of outrage in that case.
The Kobe case? It was as you said. But why look at that when you can simply crow on about these spoiled, rich, athletes who can’t take no for an answer? Don Imus? Why not talk about what Imus said directly, when you can come up with some logic like 20 year old rappers making a 60 something year old DJ say the things he said? Yeah, that’s right, Imus said what he said because he was listening to rap music. One issue had absolutely nothing to do with the other, but of course the sheeple continue to be herded.
August 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
I hear ya Dirty. but I still don’t think you understand what i’m saying. All I’m saying is that in the balck community, the whole dogfighting thing is not quite the egregious crime it is the in thewhite world.Therefore, a lot of folks can’t understand why so much attention is focused on this . Ray Lewis was involved in amurder case and didn’t get this kind of publicity.
August 23rd, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Dogs don’t kill people, unless they’ve been beaten, tortured, and trained to. Whatever else you think about animal cruelty, these dogs are dangerous to people, especially women and children. My uncle has scars from a dog attack, my dog has fang marks in his neck from a fighting dog that I had to pull off him, and this makes it a little different than hunting. Someone’s personal amusement is not more important than someone else’s life, so Vick got what he deserved.