The Roundup: Soft on Maas, More on Oden and Another Boston Coach Cheating
Uncategorized September 17th. 2007, 7:41am
Plenty of chicks looking hot at the Emmy’s last night, but we opt for Katherine Heigl because she cracked us up and Knocked Up was so damn good (we’ve never seen one episode of Grey’s Anatomy) … bit of a surprise here - Newt Gingrich thinks Hilary Clinton has an 80 percent chance to become the next US president … we’re not going to get into a conversation about illegals, but why are they working at an Army base? … the moral of this story - don’t cheat! …
It’s weird how sympathetic the media is being toward Bill Maas. His lawyer blames it all on the pounding he took in the NFL. (KC Star)
Blazers swear Oden’s knees weren’t a problem before the draft. (Oregonian)
What does Rory have to say about Tiger’s dominance at the Fed Ex Cup? Nothing. Bitch. (LA Times)
Let the Shawne Williams arrest go? Let me know how your employer feels if the same thing happens to you, Bob. (Indy Star)
Duke football wins a game, but its fans haven’t celebrated in so long, one of them got injured. (Sports by Brooks)
Another Boston coach is caught cheating: Terry Francona, breaking all the fantasy football rules. (Red Sox Monster)
Female fans wears body paint to a game; blogger is all over it. (700 Level)
It would totally suck to be a USC walk-on. (Lion in Oil)
Get your relics of Tiger Stadium! (Big Ben Tailgate)
Rapping about Barry Bonds over the timeless track, “Momma said knock you out.” (You Been Blinded)
Chad Henne may want to put in a call to Mel Kiper about this. (Free Press)
A list of sportscasting blunders, with video. (Unibrow)
Even with the help of instant replay, the officials can’t get this call right. (Simon on Sports)
If these are the best candidates for .400, it ain’t happening soon. (Vegas Watch)
We don’t give half a shit about this criminal, but since he got arrested, this blog has done more than 30 posts about it. (TMZ)
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September 17th, 2007 at 9:11 am
I’ll say this for Newt. As a conservative, he’s unfortunately right. Republicans have forgot about embracing the core conservative values that their voting base covets - border security, responsible spending, etc.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:13 am
And it seems like their best shot at victory - Rudy - doesn’t embrace a couple of key issues (religion, abortion).
September 17th, 2007 at 9:29 am
Rudy also doesn’t embrace black people.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:34 am
Yeah, so Hillary has the best shot at winning?
Hillary Rodman Clinton? She’s supposed to get men to vote for her? Maybe if the Democrats will sue to get all the military votes thrown out, as well as every single vote by a male over 30, she can maybe get in.
Let me put this out there…why does it seem that there are only Republican scandals, I ask it much in the same way peopl ewonder why it seems only black thug types get ripped in the press?
Hillary Clinton has plenty of Chinese skeletons in her closet, yet nothing in the media. Not a peep.
http://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+hsu
Just odd. Where is the massive, flood the zone, media coverage?
Newt is sometimes a bit of a miserable intellectual. Sour grapes, I think he wanted to run this time, but no one really likes him.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:44 am
The Bob Kravitz article about Williams ( Pacers ) getting pulled over for pot and driving with no license is unusual for him..
He says give the kid a break and it’s a different situation than say Artest or Jackson.
Usually Bob is a Bulldog about these things.. I’ll have to agree with him on this. Williams is a 21 yr old from a tough Neighborhood who made one mistake and took his medicine like a man. Let’s give him a break and support his growth in indiana..If he starts ending up in stripclubs at 3am with his armed entourage.. Then we’ll need to revisit this.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:56 am
TBL,
Nor does Rudy embrace the immigration policies that we conservatives believe in either. In fact, he said recently that immigration isn’t really a crime…big no-no.
SVP-style,
Of course. All Republicans are hate-mongering bigots…
Hollywood Wags,
I believe if the GOP loses in ‘08, you’ll definitely see Newt make a run at it in 2012. There’s a reason Republicans didn’t come out to vote in ‘06, and it wasn’t what they perceived about Iraq either…a lot of conservatives, myself included, were tired of a GOP-controlled Congress spending like liberals and not embracing immigration policies that we value. The accumulative effect is what cost us Congress.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:27 am
Wags - it’s a lot more than ‘men voting for hilary.’
It boils down to the candidates.
More than likely, it’ll be Hilary or Obama vs. Rudy or Romney.
Basically, those will be your choices. You can elect not to vote, or look up what these people stand for and make a decision. If you’re voting for or against someone because of their gender …. well, you dont me to tell you that’s a bit silly.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Gingrich is an intellect who just happened to be out maneuvered by an intellect on the other side of the fight, Bill Clinton. Whether I agreed with his principles or not ( I don’t) he built something great with the Contract with America. The Republican Party hasn’t been about anything since. In 2000 it was about beat Clinton however and with whoever and in 2004 it was about making excuses for George by supporting the troops. The party has been taken over by the AM Station listening, Fox News watching lunatic right.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:31 am
The Kravitz article reeks of a PR move by the Pacers. Ole Bobby takes great pride in posting any negative thing he can about the Pacers, Colts, Hoosiers, Boilers, etc.
Im SO sick and tired of hearing the “he came from a rough neighborhood” excuse.
If your a Pacer you should know that tooling around with your buds in an Escalade with tinted windows, in a less than desirable part of town, at 1am is not going to lead to anything good.
I’ll see if I can use that excuse next time I get in trouble at work, but boss “the mean streets of southern Indiana turned me into this, and I dont know right from wrong”
September 17th, 2007 at 10:35 am
“the core conservative values that their voting base covets - border security, responsible spending, etc.”
What about the most important conservative value of all: small federal government-along with responsible spending.
Yet, to most of the southern Republicans and Bible Belters, as long as you’re pro-life, you’ve got my vote!
@Wags, Clinton will win as I put on my political scientist hat. She’ll win the primary and will almost certainly win the general election by a plurality, too. Why? Well with Giuliani you certainly have much of the base dismayed with a pro-choice GOP. Thompson certainly juxtaposes better, but it’s the Clinton name that will rally Southerners, Bible Belters, and blacks much like they rallied for William Jefferson in ‘92 and ‘96.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:57 am
BottomlessChips,
That’s what I was referencing. The current GOP forgot how to be conservatives, which is why they lost Congress in ‘06.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:03 am
I’m telling you Hillary’s baggage as a loud mouthed leftist bitch who was a Black Panther defender in the 60’s is gonna cause a lot of middle aged men to not vote for her.
You gonna tell me that she’s some Thatcherian figure who can appeal to a wide range of voters? Please.
I’m going by what my Dad says, ex Navy officer, devout Catholic, JFK Democrat, voter.
The people attracted to the brand of politics Obama and Clinton espouse don’t vote.
Rudy has a great shot, but he can;t hide his dickish nature very well.
There are no more conservatives, government is too fucking big for them to rip themselves from the teat.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:19 am
@ Wags,
It’s true that Dems demographics don’t vote as often as GOP Midwesterners who show up and vote, and if it’s Daleyian-Chicago, they vote often.
But America is still in the middle, and the middle is still against the war, confused with our foreign policy, dismayed at the governmental spending, and somewhat concerned with the environment-all issues that the Democrats are more willing to address.
For the sake of full disclosure, I plan on using my primary vote for Barack Obama, so I’m not a big Hillary fan, but am a Democrat.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:28 am
“dismayed at the governmental spending, ”
Hillary just unveiled a 100 billion USD plan to socialize the US health care system.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:33 am
B-Chips,
Concerned about the enviornment? If you ask me, our environmental policies are largely in the middle.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:38 am
@ Wags,
The Iraq Study Group Report said Operation Iraqi Freedom was going to cost $1 trillion dollars+, and that was from last year. Estimates have it at even higher than that now. At least “socializing” health care re-invests American tax dollars into this country instead of a third world country and a few no-bid contracts, and can help provide preventative care to the underprivileged, so tax payers don’t burden expensive ER visits in the future. Economically, it makes more sense than a preventative war.
The middle class in this country is over taxed, a former Democratic concept. As a New Yorker, I get taxed six times on my pay check (US, NYS, NYC, NYC #2, SS, and Medi). You just have to ask, what are we really getting for our taxes? And I think that will be a determining factor in ‘08 for many, too.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:40 am
@ Nolan,
“and somewhat concerned with the environment”
I said somewhat. Polls show that it’s increasingly becoming a more relevant issue for many Americans.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:43 am
Also B-Chips,
I bet Bush won’t get any credit for negotiating a deal to end North Korea’s nuclear program, nor will he get any credit for having Gates start pursuing diplomatic measures to end or curb Iran’s nuclear weapons program.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:52 am
@ B-Chips,
Socialized Medicine would be a disaster like it is in other countries, besides the tax costs and the eroding effect (long-term) that it would have on our economy. If it’s so great, then why did Castro import Spanish doctors for his surgery last year? If it’s so great, then how come many people come to America for major operations that are life-threatening that they can’t get in their home countries for at least 6-8 months? Also, the single-payer system in Canada isn’t all “free” - it only accounts for about 70% of the healthcare services provided.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:54 am
@ Nolan,
You’re jacking the thread to go from discussing Newt’s ‘08 prediction to trying to save the Bush legacy.
To get it back on track, I don’t think that any of the GOP candidate’s foreign policy plans are truly conservative other than Ron Paul. Tom Tancredo is especially scary, and Mike Huckabee is somewhat tolerable as he seems to be more based in reason than the neocon agenda.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
@ Nolan,
No one ever said that America doesn’t have the greatest doctors. And no candidate, other than Kucinich, supports a single-payer system. And Castro lives in a third world country, while Spain is a member of the G8. Of course he’ll want a first world country doctor, just as the Saudis travel to Mass General for procedures.
And I’ve never seen studies that show there’s a long-term erosion; it’s the other way around. As I’ve stated, it’s better in the long-term to make the switch as we pay more money for uninsured ER visits than we would to subsidize everyone with health care.
For this issue anyway, it’s more about personal responsibility and for us to kick our fast-food habit as obesity brings about a litany of diseases. GOP candidate Mike Huckabee is a good example of how all Americans should address their diet if they’re overweight.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Spain isn’t in the G8. My fault.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
@ B-Chips,
“You’re jacking the thread to go from discussing Newt’s ‘08 prediction to trying to save the Bush legacy.”
I could say you did the same thing by saying what “middle America wanted” - which is just your perception because nobody will really know what middle America wanted until after the campaign and election unfold. btw, nobody will give Bush credit for North Korea, which was illustrated by your response.
“To get it back on track, I don’t think that any of the GOP candidate’s foreign policy plans are truly conservative other than Ron Paul.”
To me, there is no such thing as liberal or conservative fiscal policy because, like all things, how we address foreign policy over time evolves and changes. For example, as our economy and interests have become more global over the last 100 years, the US has been more involved in foreign affairs. Ron Paul is “conservative” w/ foreign policy….it’s just that he’s running on a 1908 platform.
“Tom Tancredo is especially scary”
How so?
I like Huckabee, too, but he has no chance in Hell.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
@ B-Chips
Then why do people, whose lives are on the line and can’t get healthcare quick enough in their countries, flock to America to get timely healthcare/procedures? Why did a Canadian MP go to Los Angeles for cancer treatment if their system is so good? I’m just opposed to the government having control over my life, telling me when I can and can’t get healthcare, and even worse….under the John Edwards plan, it is MANDATORY that you get a check-up once a year. Talk about lack of choices and freedoms…
September 17th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Congrats, Bush. But I didn’t want to address Bush since he has nothing to do with ‘08, which is why I just discussed Hillary and voting patterns. Not that it matters too much on a chat thread, but I wasn’t the one who invoked Bush and the past.
As for Tancredo, he came out and said that if we were ever nuked by terrorists, we should bomb Mecca and Medina. Hypotheticals are unfair, but still, what a weird and illogical response to a nuclear attack.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
btw, since when did it become the role of government to fund the population’s healthcare? It’s just another example of utopian liberalism that wants intrustion and control over the people’s lives.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
@ Nolan,
Again, America has the best doctors in the world as a whole. This wouldn’t change. We have the greatest undergrad and med schools in the world. This wouldn’t change, either.
As for the gov’t having control over your life, I have more of a problem with a bunch of other governmental methods of control rather than them “forcing” me to get a check up because, GASP!, they want me to be healthy. I don’t love government interfering in my life, but as you said with Ron Paul, this isn’t 1908 and state’s rights are key! Tenth amendment for life! Live free or die! Government has interfered with all of our lives for a while now, and making that argument is weak unless you fight every piece of federal government interference.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
“But I didn’t want to address Bush since he has nothing to do with ‘08″
Sure it could. You’ll have certain groups who perceive that Bush’s foreign policy on Iraq and other areas has been terrible, and there will be an attempt to lump in the GOP candidate with Bush since they’re supposed to have “similar ideologies”, despite the fact they had nothing to do with the choices Bush made.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
@ Nolan,
When did it become government’s responsibility to control our ISPs, snoop into our library records, and suspend habeas corpus or US citizens?
If you voted for Bush and still support him, you can never make an argument about a liberal government intruding into our lives
September 17th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
As far as government interference, there’s always exceptions, but I don’t like the government having control over my life and them telling me when I can and can’t go to the doctor.
But I gotta run. Catch ya later.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
One small point … Canada has some medical programs that rival what we have here in the US.
But interesting points all around. I think it boils down to Hilary vs. Rudy, with the problem being republicans don’t full support Rudy (too divisive on many issues; but they known Romney isn’t a big enough established name to have a chance), and Hilary kind of wins by default.
Not saying she’s the best candidate - but also not saying she’s not the best - but I think she’ll win.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Fair enough, Nolan. In an utopian world, we’d all be libertarian and we wouldn’t have this terrorist threat–which I concede is real, though we’re fighting the battle in a weird way–that has really divided the Republicans into neocons and conservatives, and divided the electorate as well as the political elite.
Good chat, though. I should probably get some work done.
September 17th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
btw TBL,
Rudy’s not a lock for the nomination. Not saying he’d be the best candidate either, but Thompson’s took the lead in the polls, and he’s only been in the race for two weeks because of Rudy’s shortcomings that you and everybody else have mentioned.