Reilly’s Mag Move: ‘The Four Seasons to the Hampton Inn.’ An Interview with John Feinstein*
Uncategorized October 30th. 2007, 11:48am
Special treat today, kids – big-time author John Feinstein has stopped by to chat. He’s a rare breed in the sports journalism field – he’s outspoken – and possibly a name in contention for the backpage column Rick Reilly vacated at SI (one of his big pluses, should the SI honchos care: he’s big on golf). We couldn’t begin to rattle off all his accomplishments, and really, you’d probably rather hear his opinions on OJ Mayo, paying college athletes and of course, ESPN. **UPDATE: To those of you who were wondering, Feinstein has emailed his thoughts on the Duke lacrosse situation. His answer is at the very bottom.
Q: You were only 10 years out of college when your first book was published. It just so happened to turn into one of the best college basketball books of all-time. Can you talk us through the process of going from Duke grad to a year with Bobby Knight?
I’m not sure there is any process that leads to your first book. In the back of my mind–like most writers I think — I always wanted to write a book someday. The key was finding a good idea that I could execute. I got to know Knight covering the ‘84 Olympic team and had always thought tracking a team with a famous coach for a season from the inside would be a good book. The three coaches famous enough at that point — to me — were Knight, Dean Smith and John Thompson. Knight was easily the most likely to go along with something like that if he trusted you, so I approached him with the idea. The hard part was finding a publisher. Five houses rejected the proposal before McMillian offered $17,500 as an advance. I took it — much to the dismay of my friends and family who thought I was nuts to take a leave from The Post to attempt the book. It worked out okay.
Q: Taking into consideration the politically correct atmosphere we live in today, do you see another Bob Knight ever emerging in college basketball?
They broke the mold when they made Knight. Plus, in today’s world, where every little bit of misbehavior is captured on tape in some form, a coach wouldn’t survive if he repeatedly went off a la Knight at the start of his career. He’d never get a chance to become Knight no matter how good he might be.
Q: You’ve written a slew of books, but is there one that has meant the most to you? Or one that has been the most fun?
The non-fiction book that meant the most to me was “A Civil War” – the book I wrote about Army-Navy because the kids I worked with were so special. I’m still in close touch with many of them and stay connected to the two schools — more Navy because I’m closer and do the games on radio — but I still have a lot of very close friends at Army. Doing the kids fiction has been lots of fun because my son Danny (13) has been involved almost from the start. He’s basically my first editor — reading as I write so I can be sure the plot can be followed by kids; is fun for him (and others) to read and that the kids sound like kids. He often corrects me in the kids-speak area.
Q: Do you think that, based on some recent hires, ESPN has the intention of wiping Sports Illustrated off the map? It almost seems unheard of … but could you see it happening?
ESPN would like to wipe all other media entities off the face of the earth and control the entire sports world. They haven’t done a bad job of it so far, although I have to say the Reilly thing baffles me just a little. I understand the money — and give Rick credit for being honest about it — but to me, as a writer, leaving SI for ESPN the so-called mag is like leaving The Four Seasons to check into a Hampton Inn. No, they won’t ever wipe out SI; it is too established and still too good to ever just go away.
Q: With all the power that ESPN has these days … do you think David (bloggers) throwing rocks at Goliath, trying to get him to be the watchable mid-90s version, is having any impact?
No, the little people will never have an impact on ESPN — they just have too much power and too much money. For crying out loud, schools are changing starting times to accomodate ESPN-U!
Q: You’ve written about one of the greatest coaches in sports history, Red Auerbach. Finish this sentence: If Red Auerbach were coaching today …
If Red Auerbach were coaching today he would be the best coach going. I never met anyone who understood change and adapted to it better than he did.
Q: Your wikipedia profile claims Tony Kornheiser gave you the nickname “Junior.” What’s the backstory with that one? And does Kornheiser have a nickname we don’t know about?
Tony put the “Junior,” label on me when I was 21 after I’d written a piece on McEnroe — whose nickname was Junior. I was the youngest person on staff at The [Washington] Post and, like McEnroe, I was from New York, left-handed and hot-tempered. I control my temper better now, though I still get pissed off (mostly by stupidity and arrogance) and I cannot tell you, at 50, how annoying it is when strangers come up and address me as, “Junior.” It gets old when you’re old. None of my nicknames for Tony are printable. (Just kidding. I love him even though he’s insane).
Q: The college basketball season is about three weeks away, and the player everyone’s talking about is USC freshman OJ Mayo. Any thoughts on the young punk kid who recruited himself to USC and then offered to recruit for Tim Floyd?
One word for OJ Mayo: “Overrated,” mostly by himself.
Q: A topic that will always remain hot – should these college basketball players who are generating large amounts of revenue get paid for their services? More than the free room, board and tuition, of course.
No, I don’t think college kids should get paid but I do think there should be trust funds set up for players in the two revenue sports that are tied to graduation. In other words take, say 25 percent of a schools profits from that sport and put it in a trust fund. The day you graduate, you get your share pro-rated over how many years you were on the team. For the superstar, that 20-30-40K will be meaningless. For most kids, it would be an incentive to graduate. The cop-out artists say, “you can’t do it because of Title IX.” Wrong. You just write the legislation to say the players receive a percentage of any net revenues earned by their team. Thus, if the Tennessee women’s basketball team has net revenues, they’re in too.
Q: We can’t let you go without at least asking for extremely premature Final Four picks.
I stopped doing Final Four picks — or any picks — years ago. I have no idea on November 1 who will be healthy, who will be hot and who will be lucky in late March. The only thing I do know is that most of the so-called experts picking now will probably be wrong and I would be just as wrong if I made picks. This way at least there’s some doubt about my fallability.
Q: REGARDING DUKE LACROSSE …
Feinstein: I was very angry when the story first broke especially after (Athletic Director) Joe Alleva’s initial, ‘this is an unfortunate incident,’ comment. If, in fact, a rape took place it went way beyond an unfortunate incident. I probably got sucked in by the rather naive notion that NO prosecutor could possibly be stupid enough or reckless enough to indict people with ZERO evidence. I was certainly wrong about that. IF a crime was committed and IF kids were refusing to talk to the police — which was initially reported before they all submitted to the DNA testing — they SHOULD have had scholarships pulled. Clearly, Pressler was made a scape-goat and the Duke administration handled the situation horribly stem to stern. John Burness, the incredibly arrogant PR guy, was still working until he violated the terms of the Pressler settlement and the school announced his “retirement.” Alleva is still there; the President is still there; the dean of students is still there. What I know upsets people is that I won’t accept the notion of the players as martyrs. Were they put through hell by Nifong? Yes. He’s been disbarred. They have been given multi-million dollar settlements (deserved) and there will always be a segment of America that WILL consider them martyrs. One more thing: If I HAD tried to defend the kids or Duke at the time I would have been hammered as a Duke apologist. One of your posters is probably right — I should never comment on anything Duke (I’m always asked for obvious reasons) because if I defend the school it is because I’m a grad; if I don’t defend it I’m a bad guy for not defending my alma mater.
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October 30th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Feinstein makes Bob Costas look humble and down to earth.
October 30th, 2007 at 11:58 am
Love this site but what shocks me about you guys is the constant ass-kissing of peckerheads like Feinstein. This is a guy who never lets a fact interfere. I could give you a thousand examples but what the hell…
How about doing interviews with writers who do due diligence and get all their facts straight (Gary Smith, Bob Verdi, Ray Ratto, etc.) instead of attention-starved schmoes like this creep. Blecchhhh!
October 30th, 2007 at 12:06 pm
What don’t you like about Feinstein?
October 30th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
that trust fund idea for college athletes is a great idea…
October 30th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
feinstein is without question my favorite serious writer. i remember being a senior in college (journalism major) when “season on the brink” came out. it just so happened to be the same season of knight’s last championship.
it was riveted. between my studies, homework and my job, i somehow found the time to finish that book in two days. to this day, i still say that was the greatest sports book ever written (certainly light years better than that fawning tripe george will wrote on tony larussa).
i remember my last book report in college (history of american sports — not a blow off class) was on “season on the brink.” i got an A with it.
since, i think i have reread that book eight times. it’s still as breathtaking today as it was 20 years ago.
i think i have read every feinstein book not about golf (rodney dangerfield once said the worst wastes of real estate are golf courses and cemeteries — he was right!). feinstein is, in my eyes, THE american sportswriter. i only wish i could meet feinstein some day and buy him a drink, just for what his work has meant to me, and many others.
bravo mr. feinstein! bravo!
and well done TBL, well done indeed! my compliments.
this is one example why thebiglead.com is a must read for me. daily.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
TBL – please, please, please read this link re Feinstein and Duke lacrosse. This guy is about on par with Al Sharpton. Love your site, TBL, but Feinstein is a fucking hack.
http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2007/06/john-feinstein-and-unbearable-lightness.html
October 30th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
FACTS. JUST THE FACTS, MA’AM.
This guy’s literary license is filled with nothing but DUI’s. As a former colleague of his at the Washington Post once put it, “Feinstein is a journalistic racketeer.”
He should be a novelist. A low-grade creep if ever there was one.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Sorry about the link – I’ll try my terrible HTML skills here – maybe this will work.
Anyway: how on earth did you not ask him about his shameful display re the Duke lacrosse case? Please, write him back, I’d love to read his excuses.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
spencer096, I’m not sure the trust fund thing is a good idea. It sounds good in principle though.
These college athletes would still get more money from the NBA, and therefore leave after only a year or two. Plus, it would do nothing to combat the morally-questionable actions by their college’s coaching staff, administrators and boosters. Finally, it would discourage competition by allowing the established college BB powers to remain firmly entrenched because they would have the best facilities and revenue (no more cinderellas in March unless boosters funnel cash to the players and their families).
October 30th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
TBL- How could you not ask about the Duke Lax case? Feinstein was absolutely killing Duke without knowing any of the facts..
I don’t understand how Feinstein is an expert on OJ Mayo either. Thats like asking me what I think of Mayo.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Had never seen/heard about the Duke lacrosse story with Feinstein. Not that I urge you to, but I’m sure I wrote similar opinions at the time. And Feinstein and I aren’t the only ones.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:32 pm
RS – The man has written books about college basketball.
But we like all opinions, so please share yours.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Well, you have his email: follow-up w/ him re Duke:
“After the dismissal of charges and Duke’s run to the championship game, did Feinstein acknowledge his own rush to judgment? No. Explain or understand the facts of case? No. Admit that personal biases clouded his interpretation? No. Instead, in radio interviews and several newspaper columns over the past month, he lectured morality from some lofty moral high ground known only to him.
Discussing the three falsely accused players in an interview a few weeks ago, he asserted,
‘I don’t think I’ve been proven wrong, because . . . I said, I think they’re probably guilty of everything but rape.’
“Following up on his radio screed, Feinstein took to the pages of the Washington Post to declare, ‘No one at Duke has admitted to a single mistake yet. Until they do so, they don’t deserve forgiveness.’”
Guy is scum.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Wow. Haven’t seen this polarizing effect from a TBL interview since Whitlock.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Mike F it would be nice to know what you think of some of his books. Last Dance (foreword by coach K!), a march to madness, last amateurs, etc. Yes, I agree with you he made some dumb comments re: Duke case, lots of people did.. He probably only got asked questions because he is a famous media person who graduated from Duke and has an affilation with sports. I do not see how that discredits his great work that came before which is some fantastic stuff. Oh yea season on the brink is pretty good too. I haven’t read too much of his football of golf stuff. Great score, TBL.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
It’s real easy to call someone a hack when you haven’t written a damn thing in your life.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Man, talk about an unexpected response. Interviewing is a thankless job.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Feinstein gets a pass on the Duke thing in my book because he was way too emotionally involved.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
I remember his “Under the Boards” segment on sportscenter from years ago, and enjoyed it.
Last year I read “The Punch” about the Kermit Washington/Tomjanovich incident, thought that was great.
But I am on board with others on the Duke lacrosse thing. He was irresponsible, at best.
October 30th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Well, when you’ve written The Odds and Sods, you’re free to comment on anyone, I guess.
He’s a hack because he wrote this:
“[the Duke case] isn’t about over-zealous prosecutors or media running amok. It’s a lesson about a society in which no one ever admits they’re wrong (see G.W. Bush and R. Cheney as exhibits 1 and 1A), especially allegedly smart people. Smart people make mistakes too. Mistakes are forgivable—but only after you admit them.€
Oh, the irony is so rich.
And SM – I’ve never read his books; they may be fantastic for all I know.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
I like Feinstein a lot, I own A Civil War, Season on the Brink, the one about the PGA tour (name escapes me) and the life in the ACC book..but he went ballistic on the Duke Case, calling for all scholarships to be revoked if the kids didn’t point out the criminal (which there proved not to be one).
He even admitted that he didn’t know all the facts, yet still went crazy. For a national and well known writer to do that shows a lot of carelessness.
As for Mayo, how does he have any more info than anyone else? He’s an ACC guy through and through. I just think it was a throw away question. My thought on Mayo is that everyone is quick to jump on this kid, how about we see exactly what happens at USC first? The easy way out is to say overrated, cocky, me-player. If thats how he is on the court and off it, then fine. But lets give it some time to sort itself out. The season hasn’t even tipped yet.
I’m not saying the interview is bad at all, but I would have liked a Duke question thrown in there.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
TBL–you never heard of Feinstein’s reaction on the lacrosse thing? Didn’t you link to this Feinstein/Duke lacrosse story when it came out? I thought that was where I originally read it…
October 30th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Oh, so you want to kill the guy for his comments on Duke lax. Whip out an entire journalistic career because of one opinion.
If you want to hold him to that standard, by all means .. but we hope you dont treat us the same way. We’ve had a couple regrettable posts. And there will be more down the road.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Here was what Blue Ribbon said about O.J. Mayo in its USC preview. I don’t know what’s true, but it’s a different point-of-view than a lot of what we’ve heard:
Mayo was considered by many the No. 1 recruit in his class, although after last winter, some analysts had Kansas State’s Michael Beasley and even UCLA’s Kevin Love leapfrog him.
Interestingly enough, first impressions being just that, most had glowing reports about Mayo the person this summer at USC. He took two classes and organized numerous team scrim-mages. Teammates are already calling him a leader.
Mayo readily admits he has made some mistakes and is ready for that next step in his journey toward the NBA. He’s an extremely intelli-gent young man, scored in the 95th percentile on the ACT and could be this year’s Kevin Durant, but with a little less scoring and more of that all-around team play that another No. 32 exem-plified
Yes, since fifth grade, Mayo has worn No. 32 in honor of Magic Johnson. ”That’s my favorite player of all time,” Mayo told ESPN.com. ”He was just a great guy. A lot of people liked him. He’s a great player. More than anything, he was a winner. I think he’s remembered as a winner in a lot of different ways. That’s how I want to go out.”
The word being thrown around as of early September is that Mayo has been misunderstood. Only time will tell.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
I’ve been an admirer of Feinstein for a long time and read several of his (non-golf) books. A Civil War is great, and the hoops books have been enjoyable reads. I’ve also read his columns and even looked forward to his appearances on TK’s radio show (sadly, now on ice due to the MNF experiment). I even like it when he calls out Joe Alleva and Talman Trask (I’m also a Duke alum). I’m a fan.
That said, his refusal to acknowledge that he made some ridiculous comments on the Duke lacrosse matter is disappointing. I’ll still read him, and I’ll consider buying his books (might pass on the Glavine book), but he has dipped a bit in my estimation after the events of last year.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Here’s more fuel for the anti-Mayo clan, I just saw. This doesnt look good.
TBL- anyway you guys can do some background on this?
“Mayo may have punched Daniel Hackett in the face during a pickup game in September, breaking his jaw. Both Hackett and Mayo say it was an elbow and an accident, but multiple sources say Mayo punched Hackett.” Decourcy had something on this, I think.
That can’t be good for my point.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
John Feinstein is the idiot who said the Baltimore Ravens were really a nice group of guys. Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis and the list of criminals goes on and he promoted them, and went ga-ga over them. He makes me wanna puke.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
This is not a knock on RS27, who is just reporting what he read, but this rumor has been out there since the injury happened. I find it interesting that some would give credence to unidentified sources over the two individuals actually involved in the incident.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Good interview, TBL. There was no point in asking about Duke because Feinstein would never own up to being wrong and stubborn. It’s not that he is wrong, it’s that he basically still holds the same opinion where someone like you admits they jumped the gun a bit early.
As you can tell, he’s already hated enough. He reminds me of Reilly. Guys over 40 probably like him, everyone else realizes that his finger is not on the pulse of sports anymore, but pet projects, fluff pieces (not so much Feinstein), and arrogance is what defines them to the younger/internet savy world.
October 30th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Why didn’t you ask him what is what like do scream out the F bomb on live radio?
Soon TBL, you’ll be “IN” with the swells dude, way to go.
You’ll be joshing around with Tony and Wilbon in no time.
October 30th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Brian- of course Hackett and Mayo will downplay it because whats Hackett supposed to say,” Mayo punched me in the face”?
This just looks like a coverup to me..and inadvertent elbow breaks someone’s jaw. That seems pretty outlandish to me.
October 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
That Unidentified Source, was a teammate who was there. The initial reports were that Mayo punched him and fractured his jaw, then Tim Floyd came out and said it was an elbow. I believe they went back to the teammate and he said again it was a punch.
Of course they are going to say it was an elbow, you really want bad press like that to start the season especially when it is causing a starter on a team that is pretty thin experience to miss a couple months.
Mayo is a punk, who is going to use this season as an audition tape for the NBA, I don’t think it would faze him if he didn’t go deep in the tourney as long as he has his stats.
Personally I would put him behind Love, Beasely, and Gordon (who will prove to be a far superior guard and scorer)
October 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Feinstein may be a jerk and arrogant but he writes great books. Even the ones he mails in.
October 30th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Feinstein has responded to the Duke questions.
October 30th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
TBL – first off, major props on the follow-up. This is why you have the best sports blog, and why I keep coming back every day.
Now . . . Feinstein. Wow. He didn’t address a single thing he had previously written/stated re Duke Lacrosse. Instead we get this:
I probably got sucked in by the rather naive notion that NO prosecutor could possibly be stupid enough or reckless enough to indict people with ZERO evidence.
Hello? You yourself were so stupid and reckless that you indicted these kids with ZERO evidence of a crime being committed as well. This is you!!! You are describing yourself!!! Where is your apology? For shame.
Sigh. Okay, now I’m done.
October 30th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Feinstein is a peckerhead.
It’s well-known that he has a strong dislike for Reilly. The two are enemies, really. And he also had a run-in at espn, and so no longer works there.
When he’s on local KJR-am , here in Seattle, I always turn the station. Arrogant, full of himself, he is.
October 30th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
All I’m saying is that, just as Hackett, Mayo and Floyd would have a motive to cover it up if a punch was thrown, the press has a motive to try and make a story out of it if there’s no proof that it was just an elbow. Let me put it this way: if there were more to this story than what the involved parties say, the L.A. Times would be investigating and reporting it. If the rumored punch has been reported in the L.A. Times, it has been only in passing. I don’t read the L.A. Daily News, but I think it has only been reported on that paper’s USC blog, but I could be wrong.
The story also seems implausible because teammates don’t usually go around punching each other in scrimmages and Mayo (again, correct me if I’m wrong) has no history of this kind of behavior. (Don’t bring up the ref-bumping incident; anyone who saw the video saw that Mayo barely did anything, let alone knock the guy down.)
October 30th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Thanks Mike.
I must say … I still disagree with you.
October 30th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
“As you can tell, he’s already hated enough. He reminds me of Reilly. Guys over 40 probably like him, everyone else realizes that his finger is not on the pulse of sports anymore”
Reilly and JF are NOTHING alike, and represent 2 very different types of journalists. I have no idea why you say he doesn’t have his finger on the pulse of sports…what the hell exactly is the pulse of sports? JF is not a puff piece kind of guy at all, and has written some amazing books over the years. His most recent about Q-School is one of the best books I’ve read in the past 5 years…of any nature.
October 30th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
“IF a crime was committed and IF kids were refusing to talk to the police — which was initially reported before they all submitted to the DNA testing — they SHOULD have had scholarships pulled.”
Nobody disagrees with that. The issue is when you can reach a conclusion about whether a crime was committed. And while the school has the right to pull scholarships pretty much at its whim, I don’t see why taking the 5th should require it. The whole sordid mess is a cautionary tale.
It’s true that Feinstein would be crucified for his Duke ties no matter how he reacted, and as a journalist I don’t see how he could have avoided any comment. From what I’ve read and heard from him, his addendum to the interview is his most reasonable comment on the topic.
October 30th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
I’ve never encountered Feinstein before this post, so I don’t have any preconceived opinions on the guy. That being said, the guy is pretty damn intellectually dishonest. Reading over the Durham in Wonderland post about his comments on the Duke LAX case makes that clear.
The problem comes when weeks after the charges were dismissed, when it had become clear that nothing happened, and after the state Attorney General declared the LAX players “innocent,” Feinstein still said that the guys were “guilty of everything but rape.”
In all seriousness, the closest analogy would be arguing that OJ is innocent and that Fred Goldman is a vindictive SOB for not accepting the jury’s decision.
That isn’t just one bad opinion, TBL. It’s a refusal to admit a mistake in the face of all evidence; it’s choosing to slander three innocent men who had been put through hell rather than admit a mistake.
And that is absolutely terrible and, for a journalist, an unforgivable sin.
October 30th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
T-web: very well said.
TBL, seriously, when you have the time: check out that link. I know you can’t hose Feinstein after he just gave you an interview, but the evidence is pretty damning.
October 30th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Brian- Didn’t someone at USC punch someone in the face over a video game a few years ago? They’re just kids and if a pickup game gets heated who knows what emotions come out.
Also the LA times and Daily News are trying to protect their USC access cause the season hasn’t even started (if this even happened). If they break Mayo punched Hackett, bye-bye access to Mayo for the year.
October 30th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Mike –
Don’t make that blog out to be gospel. It has its own very slanted view on a lot of topics. It’s a good source of information and links, but its editorializing gets shaky at times.
October 30th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
RS,
If the L.A. papers are so concerned about access, why do they report on the Reggie Bush improper benefits allegations? The Times writers have been pretty frank about the “struggles” of the football program this season. And you should check out the blog Scott Wolf writes on the Daily News website. He’s the beat writer who covers USC football and he is relentlessly negative. You would think the team was 6-62 over its last 68 games instead of 62-6 from the tone of his coverage.
October 30th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Come on, TBL boys. Wake up.
If they awarded Pulitzers for arrogance, hypocrisy and phony information, Feinstein would have 10 of them.
What next…..a puff piece on Paul (Dr. Zzzzzzzzzz) Zimmerman? Or maybe Skip (Girly Girl) Bayless?
Jeezzzzzuuussss.
October 30th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
All I’m saying is that the Times and News didn’t break the Bush scandal, they’re following up. Thats a big difference. I didn’t see either paper do an expose on the issue. Not to mention Bush isn’t even at the school, so what do they care. Being negative and breaking a story about a star player are totally separate issues.
Mayo has a chance to be a trancendent (sp?) player in the LA area and the last thing either paper needs is him shutting them down.
But getting back to the original point, I don’t think its far-fetched at all that Mayo slugged Hackett. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think he punched him. Do you know how much force an elbow would have to have to break someone’s jaw? Of course we’ll never know the truth until someone other than Hackett or Mayo say something, but I’m saying its not totally out there.
October 30th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
he let’s ‘the caveman’ name him junior and admit that they buddy up together, ah, like pals or something? sounds like jf needs an asskicking.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:16 pm
I think the study of Feinstein is a great example that good literature and writing doesn’t always come from the wholesome and clever sources that we assume.
Look at Charles Schultz…dude was a miserable son of a bitch, and touched billions with Peanuts.
November 1st, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Feinstein says he’s stopped making any kind of picks? That’s odd — the Washington Post ombudsman rapped him a few months ago for wagering on an event he was covering. The sports editor there also said he would stop Feinstein from doing it again. Here’s the link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/13/AR2007041302084.html