Its Do-or-Die Day for ESPN’s Dana Jacobson
ESPN, Media Gossip/Musings, REligion January 25th. 2008, 9:46am
Here comes the Catholic League! (That’s Jeff Ross, apparently, trying to pull her off stage.)
Bristol is bracing for the mobs to appear at noon. Help us all: the words ‘prayer vigil‘ are being tossed around.
Lots of email activity today about the suspended ESPN anchor:
* Someone just emailed in saying Jeffrey Ross was on the Opie and Anthony show today and said Dana Jacobson did say, “F*** Jesus.’
* The Press of Atlantic City, which got this whole thing rolling, has an in-depth report on how the internet is dangerous!
* Did Bill Donohue, president Catholic League, say this whole thing was over?
Photos: Icon Sports Media
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January 25th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Oh great…another day of Catholic bashing at TBL.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:48 am
DAYUM!!! Dana Jacobson is ’bout it. Any chick that can take a bottle of vodka to the head, can roll with me any day.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Funny, I could swig that whole bottle, and Dana still won’t look like Jenn Sterger…
January 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Looks like she was having a good time!
January 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
I gotta give Dana props for chugging Belvadere, only liquor I chug is the sweet nectar known as Jaegermesiter.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Trey Wingo and Mike Ditka totally make those pictures.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Nice pics. The looks on everyone in the background (particularly Mike Ditka) are terrific. It’s like they’re all watching a donkey show or something.
Well, now with this Catholic League thing coming down on her, I almost feel bad for the little heathen.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am
You can almost see her weiner in that second pic. Just saying…
January 25th, 2008 at 9:52 am
I think I just found my new avatar image
January 25th, 2008 at 9:53 am
DRINK PLEDGE!
January 25th, 2008 at 9:54 am
One bottle cashed and you still don’t think she’d look like Sterger? We may have to put this to the test …
January 25th, 2008 at 9:54 am
1. Damon Dash is thrilled with the free advertising.
2. Is that Deion in the back of the second photo? He looks like he was hoping she would get REAL jiggy with it.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:54 am
i would be more impressed if there wasnt a shot measurer on the bottle
January 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am
look at ditka, it looks like he is thinking “can you believe this bitch”?
Classic
January 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am
If anything this makes her more appealing. If a big girl doesn’t like to party, what is a man to do? You can’t go in sober!
January 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Jumps are our friends.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:57 am
@TBL: After a fifth of Vodka any chick will look like Sterger, until you wake up in the back of the El Camino in the morning with her.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Really? To me it looks like he is looking over and giving someone else the tag team stare
January 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
@TBL: Thought that’s what you were trying to do last night?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:00 am
OK, maybe after the entire bottle she might look like Sterger from afar…
January 25th, 2008 at 10:01 am
is that chad johnson above Ditka?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:03 am
I’m not sure, it looks to me like Deon “I dont play the run but still have the gall to question other peoples toughness” Sanders.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
My vote is for Chad Johnson….wonder if he proposed to her after nailing his first joke. Is gay marriage legal in NJ?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:04 am
@YYSA–”Tag team stare”…that’s a good one. Is she pregnant? She looks like it. That would make those pictures look even better…wait, worse. Worse. That’s what I meant.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am
i dont think shes preggers, shes just a husky lass.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am
That’s definitely Chad Johnson.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:06 am
atl fan, i also see a little bump in the pics. Maybe that is why trey wingo was smiling saying under his breath ” there goes the child support payments”
January 25th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Ok..so the catholics are staging a protest…get the fuck out. Had she said Jesus Christ in a derogotry maner would they protest? NO. Mind your own fucking business. Too many protests in the country for stupid shit. A dumb, drunk slit opens her mouth and people are all up in arms.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Whatever they took in for this event would easily be doubled if they put this one On Demand.
And, I don’t find Jacobson the least bit appealing…but a woman who treats a bottle of vodka the same way Kobiashi treats a plate of hot dogs and swears like a longshoreman? Well…I’m going out on a limb and saying she would have taken it in the pooper like a champ that night.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:09 am
She definitely looks like she takes it like a pro.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:09 am
i hope the catholic league wins. dana jacobson is clearly a threat to civilization. condoms too.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I think this is being blown way out of proportion. I don’t care for Dana on Cold Pizza/First Take or Sportscenter, but I don’t believe she should lose her job over the protests of this radical Christian group. What about St. Louis University men’s basketball coach Rick Majerus’ abortion comments, which should be considered far worse than what Dana said? To my knowledge, the Archbishop of St. Louis is the only person calling for Majerus’ job. You can’t say anything nowadays without someone saying you should be fired.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:12 am
@412: Massive props on your picture.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:15 am
pki-nice avatar pic
January 25th, 2008 at 10:17 am
I can somewhat agree TBL from the bottom picture that her face kinda looks like Sterger because she is covering her horse like features but that is like me taking a picture of my earlobe and saying I look like Brad Pitt. Which I do by the way but I was just giving an example.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Hopefully this doesn’t degenerate into the anti-Catholic garbage I saw here yesterday…
As a Catholic, I don’t necessarily think she needs to be fired. It does, however, bug me that someone can say “F Jesus” and we’re supposed to laugh it off. It was offensive, but… the bottome line should be whether or not people continue to tune in to her show and advertisers pony up for spots. I never had any use for that show before this and this doesn’t make me want to watch it any more…but if the ratings are there and the advertisers show, well…then I’m not interested in firing anyone. Just my $0.02.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:19 am
This is the exact reason that whenever I sit in my living room and drink Busch and watch RW/RR Challenges with my roommate we don’t allow any sort of recording device. No need for our crazy antics to end up online.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:19 am
“she looks like she can take a dick”-superbad
January 25th, 2008 at 10:19 am
In the spirit of 412, I’ve decided to do a new gravatar as well.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I thought Dame Dash was Armadale?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Why shouldn’t we laugh it off?
Scientology has become a punch line. Why should Christianity be any different?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:21 am
I say if she said Fuck Gays she would be fired, so why is it not ok to say Fuck Gays but offending religious people is fine?
I don’t think she should be fired, I just don’t like the double standard of what is ok to be offensive towards and what is not ok to be offensive towards.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:21 am
But he would think a week’s suspension is pathetic…
January 25th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Do Catholics watch Dogma and not laugh?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:24 am
No, I am guessing they just don’t watch it.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:24 am
@Nick Papageorio - You almost got me to defend a religion you tricky bastard.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Exactly. Could not agree more.
How about . . . fuck blacks!
How about . . . fuck Mohammed!
How about . . . fuck queers!
In the spirit of a “roast” - none of these should be considered offensive. And neither should “fuck Jesus.” Jesus.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Dana was seen this a.m., dressed as her alter ego…
http://www.thecodeinternational.com/images/crimson_chin.jpg
No word if the costume allowed her to slip past the protestors.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:27 am
@crm: i’ll try harder next time.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Well my point is that this was not a public event and people could choose to go or not. Lets be honest Roasts and comedy shows in general offend lots of people but it is COMEDY. So yes we will laugh it off. Now if she had said this over public airwaves then yes grab your pitchforks.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Thanks Irish. Although I might have to change it because Jim decided to be a copycat.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
@Mike NYC - I actually agree to a point. All good taste goes out the window at roasts. So, you end up with a bunch of people just going for shock value. And, consequently, the actual comedy tends to be, IMHO, weak.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Heard Ross talking about it on O&A this morning and he did confirm the “F- Jesus” quote. He was also very, VERY reluctant to say anything. “They’re (ESPN) kinda big and I feel like they’re watching me.” It was said somewhat in jest, but there was certainly some truth behind it.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:30 am
I’d be pretty pissed and drunk as shit if I had to go to a Mike and Mike “Celebrity” roast too.
Was she drinking a tad bit irresponsibly? Sure, but how can you blame the gal, she was just named Hartfords most eligible single person. Even they couldn’t figure out if she was a man or a woman.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:31 am
It’s not Catholic bashing. It’s Bill Donohue bashing. Freaking Al Sharpton wannabe.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:33 am
I guess Jim Brown is an Al Sharpton wannabe now too. He thinks Tiger should have gone crazy over the lynch comment.
Jim Brown has behaved so well in his personal life that he feels he should comment on how others should handle things? I don’t care if he was a great RB, he’s a grade A douche.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
@YYSA: I laughed my ass off during Dogma and I was raised Catholic.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:35 am
isnt the point of a roast that the jokes are no holds barred ? why all the fuss.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:36 am
I was raised Catholic and loved Dogma. Why is Ocho Cinco wearing sunglasses indoors?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:37 am
benji, because he is so damn cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:38 am
the future of the bengals is so damn bright?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Fucking dumbasses like you should be shot and pooped on.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:38 am
“Beautiful big-titted women just don’t fall out of the sky!“
January 25th, 2008 at 10:39 am
will always remember mike north in chicago arguing with jim brown live on the radio. i can’t remember what brown said but it sounded like those two were going to start throwing down. mike north said, “whaddya going do, slap me around like one of your ex-wives?”
January 25th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Does the bottle still have the pour thing on the end of it? Dan/Dana, whatever…I’d hit it. Espescially if she’s prego. One less thing to worry about
January 25th, 2008 at 10:40 am
this is the only thing that’s a bigger non-story than tom brady’s boot. if you can’t get drunk and say fuck jesus in this country anymore, what’s next? being held in jail for an indetermined amount of time without a trial?
oh wait…..
January 25th, 2008 at 10:41 am
I’m suprised Bill Donahue doesn’t think Touchdown Jesus is offensive. I’ve never seen anything in the Bible about football. But i’ve only opened it a few times.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Jim Brown also believes that Tiger should beat the shit out of his wife.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:44 am
“Beautiful big-titted women just don’t fall out of the sky!“
CRM -- where is that from?
January 25th, 2008 at 10:45 am
cbh, wow who was that aimed at
January 25th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Thats true CRM only skinny black comedians do
January 25th, 2008 at 10:47 am
@big nuts
Dogma
January 25th, 2008 at 10:47 am
@CRM- You didn’t say bless you when i sneezed.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Props to anyone that can name another movie where a skinny black comedian falls out of the sky
January 25th, 2008 at 10:49 am
CoRM: “Yo man, tell me something about me”; “You masterbate more than anyone on the planet”; “Aw fuck, everyone knows that. Tell me something nobody knows!”; “When you do it, you’re thinking about guys!”
January 25th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Will Smith(not quite a comedian) falls out of a window(not quite the sky) in Bad Boys
January 25th, 2008 at 10:50 am
January 25th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Him:
sammyssportssermons Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Fucking jesus freaks should all be shot and pissed on
You don’t like religion fine, but saying dumb shit like that pisses me off. I am not religious but my mom is religious, my girlfriend is Catholic, and just because I don’t agree with them doesn’t mean they need to be “shot at or pissed on”. Religion has made my mom much happier so how can I think something like that is so bad? I get tired of people complaining about religious people lecturing to them and then they lecture religious people about how stupid their beliefs are.
We don’t have to all feel the same way, a science freak doesn’t deserve to be pissed on and shot at just like a religous freak doesn’t either. Rant over.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:51 am
@theasusundevil - Dude, not all the time
January 25th, 2008 at 10:51 am
And is Sammy thought he was at a Roast I apologize.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:52 am
No Benji but good guess
January 25th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Dana Jacobson posts generate a shitload of comments.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:54 am
@CoRM: What you need is a fatty-boom-batty blunt, and I guarantee you’ll be seeing a sailboat, an ocean, and maybe even some of those big-titted mermaids doing some of that lesbian shit.
Different movie, but still hilarious.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:58 am
@cbh - You will never witness intolerance in this country anthing like that perpetuated by liberals against Christians.
January 25th, 2008 at 10:58 am
That over there? It’s just a guy in a rabbit suit!
January 25th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Dana Jacobson gets it.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:02 am
“Why couldn’t you just put the bunny in the basket”
-from the other movie where black comedian falls from the sky
January 25th, 2008 at 11:03 am
YYSA - Dave Chapelle (sp) falling getting dropped out of the plane in Con Air with the message from Nic Cage.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:04 am
damn, promise I didnt see your post ahead of mine.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Dave Chappelle- Con Air i totally should’ve got that earlier.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Dave Chapelle was in Con Air?
January 25th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Ill buy it Sterling. Good job
January 25th, 2008 at 11:09 am
This story died two minutes after it ran.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:10 am
that wasnt dave chappelle getting thrown out the plane, he got left at the airport remember. the guy trying to take Cage’s daughter stuff whatever got tossed with the note
January 25th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Everyone that wrote a comment reminding us that this remark was made at a ROAST gets it. It’s not like Dana said this on tv. Roasts are supposed to be over the top and offensive. She apologized, she got suspended, let it go. Just like what Golfweek did, this whacko religious group is bringing it back into the limelight for all the wrong reasons. If they paid attention to other roasts, maybe they would have a clue.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Con Air
January 25th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Man, what a random ass movie for him to be in.
I hate Nicolas Cage, apparently I can’t call him Nic because according to my roomate only people in the industry call him that.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
we’re nearly at 100 comments and i’ve only had to delete one .. come guys, YOU CAN DOoooo E!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am
i also hate Nic Cage. He is the worst actor that some people think is good.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:17 am
lisa lampenelli > dana jacobsen
January 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am
@TBL, where did these pictures come from? How has this video not surfaced yet? Did ESPN confiscate cell phones before this event to ensure no one tapes it?
January 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am
If Nic Cage and Keanu Reeves were in a movie together I think that could be a very effective form of torture.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:24 am
benji…you know someone who thinks cage is a good actor?
wow, thats a first.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:25 am
my roommate loves those National Treasure movies. It is unbelievable. He loves lots of terrible movies.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:26 am
The only Nic Cage movie I have ever liked was The Rock, and that was mostly because of Sean Connery.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Yeah, there’s dude at my work that thinks the National Treasure movies are the best movies ever made.
I just walk away from people when they make statements like that.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Loser’s do their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am
That would only be torture to someone with an incredibly low threshold for TOTAL FUCKING AWESOMENESS!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:29 am
@benji - Carla was the prom queen.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:30 am
@CRM: Better movie involving hijacked multi-passenger vehicle? Speed or Con-Air
January 25th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Con Air
January 25th, 2008 at 11:35 am
@Benji: Passenger 57.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:36 am
412, I think black people would disagree with you on that one. Afterall, when is the last time a Christian was kidnapped by a couple of guys and then dragged to his death behind a pickup truck on a rural highway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_King#The_Murder
Congratulations, 412, for writing the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen so far this year. I have a feeling you’ll be in the lead for awhile.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Passenger 57 and Speed were both the shit.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Air Force One - Get off my plane!
January 25th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Raising Arizona was pretty funny. So there’s one good Nic Cage movie.
January 25th, 2008 at 11:51 am
How do you like your Sirloin
January 25th, 2008 at 11:57 am
@ms621-412 has been in the lead for a long time, he continues to broaden his lead with every comment. He’s kind of like having Pat Buchanan around, we all know he is wrong, but we find it amusing and necessary to have someone who so far over the right edge around.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
@ms621 & Owl X - Not sure why the need to go ad hominem. I’m a bit busy this afternoon, but could you at least speak to what was so terribly ridiculous?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
@412, I believe it was comment #82 that is being brought into question
January 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Busy day jerking off Bill O’Reilly?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
You know, if she wasn’t so damn unattractive, this whole situation wouldn’t be that bad…if she was hot, I’d actually support her. But sorry, slightly below-average chicks don’t get this vote of confidence…Even if she is a Wolverine.
Go Blue!
January 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Owl X keeping it classy.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
(says the guy with breasts as his avatar)
January 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Oh boy.
We are just going to stay out of this thing entirely.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Okay…we’re really talking about a lynching that occurred in 1998. Don’t get me wrong: it’s clearly an awful thing. But…that’s what you’re bringing to the table?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Even though I love each and every one of you (and always will), this kind of stuff makes Us a tad bit frustrated.
Big picture, people. I gave you ten simple rules to live by (and they are pretty simple and effective) with the caveat that if you don’t follow them I’ll still forgive and love you and yet - this happens.
It makes You want to cut back and just appear in tortillas or toast full-time.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
@412-I think class was taken off the table with your quote.
Do you need examples:
Slavery
Jim Crow
Japanese Internment
“Reverend” Phelps
Matthew Sheperd
Shall I go on?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
412, I was referencing comment #84, I apologize for not making that clear ahead of time. I try not to get involved in too many opinions in the comments section, but saying that Christians are somehow affected by intolerance in this country is quite simply ludicrous. You might have an argument if you were talking about Protestant attitudes towards Catholics in the early to mid 19th Century as they emigrated to this country from Ireland, Italy, and Germany. Your broad generalization that liberals are intolerant to Christians and then to represent that Christians are the most persecuted group of citizens in this country is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who read that comment.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Anti-Catholicism: The only remaining acceptable bias.
That being said, I gotta go with racism as being worse in terms of degree.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
ms - why don’t you comment more? you seem to have a good opinion, more of it would be appreciated.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
I’m sorry 412, you need more than a lynching that took place only 10 years ago? Are you serious? And Jame Byrd wasn’t lynched, he was beat and then dragged behind a pickup truck until his body hit a curb and his head and arm were severed from his body. And this happened only 10 years ago and that’s not enough for you?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
@BraveSrRob-I think you are naive to think anti-catholicism is the “remaining acceptable bias”. There are many places in the country where it is accepted by the majority to be: anti-black, anti-mexican, anti-gay, anti-jew, and the ever popular on TBL threads…anti-muslim.
Just because you feel the anti-catholic sentiment (guessing), bet you would realize more if you were a half-black, half-mexican, muslim, gay man.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
TBL, I just don’t always have something to say. I throw out a comment a couple of times per week, usually after most everyone else has moved onto a new entry.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Owl X, many places in the country to me mean means more than 50% and I don’t think more than 50% of the country finds it tolerable to be anti-gay, anti-je and anti-black.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Owl,
I’m not saying that racism doesn’t exist. It sure as hell does. I’m just saying that as far as mainstream America, it’s been driven under ground (or into the South).
Meanwhile, Catholic bashing is pretty well accepted. My comment wasn’t about the existence or amount of the hatred, it was about the acceptance of it.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
You’re 100% correct Brave.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
cbh49er-I beg to differ, first of all, from your previous comments I’m guessing you live in the Bay Area(an extremely tolerant place) or a large metropolitan area, so I can understand your opinion.
I moved from the Los Angeles area 10 years ago to a relatively small town in a small(population wise) state. The amount of bigotry astounded me, it is alive and thriving in rural America. How does Mike Huckabee get so many votes? Many straight-white Americans who live in large metropolitan areas are oblivious to the hatred in this country, as I once was. I wish more people’s eyes would be opened to the bigotry that takes place in our country every day, if they were, we could help stop it.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I don’t disagree with you BraveSrRob, but I guess my response to that is in the form of this question: how much of the Catholic bashing that exists in this country today stems from people’s attitudes towards the Church in the wake of the pedophilia scandal amongst Catholic priests and the Church’s willingness to sweep it under the rug.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Owl, I live in Northern VA, have been all over the world so can’t really claim one spot.
I am a white male so bigotry and racism are things I don’t have to face. Maybe I am naive, I just would like to think that things are much better now than they were 40 years ago.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
@BraveSrRob-See above comment.
Do you live in a metropolitan area?
Are you white?
Are you straight?
Thinking the worst problem we have in “mainstream America” is anti-catholicism, turns a blind eye to the Hate that exists throughout the fabric of our country.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
@cbh-Things are different now than they were 40 years ago.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
@cbh-Did you check out Virginia?
January 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Ms621
I think those were really just the justification for unleashing the hatred/mistrust. (Similar to how 9/11 was a jumping off point for justifying anti-Muslim attitudes). However, I think that our better nature has managed to push the Muslim bashing back underground. There was a public backlash against the anti-Muslim sentiment that just never appears when people are anti-Catholic (except from morons like Phil Donahue).
Except for Catholics, no one ever gets upset when people bash them. With every other group, people will counter those accusations. With Catholics, they just twiddle their thumbs and let them go through. That’s my reason for saying it’s accepted.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
I’d be willing to bet most of that is in Southern Virginia.
Northern Virginia is probably the most tolerant place of different cultures I have ever been. My school George Mason never stops touting the fact that they are on the most diverse campuses in the country.
However, diversity of thought isn’t tolerated at GMU.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Owl,
Where did I say it was the worst problem? I said that racism was a worse thing in America. I just said it was accepted. On the whole, anti-Catholicism isn’t bad in terms of degree, it’s just bad in terms of acceptance.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
@cbh-Seriously, click on the state of Virginia on that map. It shows locations.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
BraveSrRob-maybe anti-catholicism sentiment is more accepted because it doesn’t result in workplace discrimination, assaults, vandalism, hate crimes, draggings, lynchings, burnings, etc.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Well said BraveSrRob. I don’t have anything there to disagree with per se. In my personal experience–I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic elementary school, middle school, and high school–I’ve only read in history books about Catholic persecution. Having never experienced any persecution or bashing myself, it is difficult for me still to wrap my mind around the concept, particularly when something so overt and so vicious as a black man being picked up off the street and murdered by three white men for no other reason than they were drunk and angry at black people and that this happened only an hour north of my hometown of Houston, TX, then that’s the sort of persecution that tends to stick out in my mind more.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Owl X
True enough, my original statement stands though.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
ms621
Oh definitely. Like I said, racism is a lot worse. So is homophobia. I didn’t mean to unleash a debate about the degree with the comment, there isn’t a debate. I was just making an observation.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I see I didn’t miss anything here. More of the same anti-Christian bigotry and sophistry from the usual suspects.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
@412-You didn’t miss anything, but I missed you.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Ok, seriously, second time I’ve seen sophistry in two days (other time was in the comments section of MJD’s Tony Dungy post). I don’t think I’ve ever seen that word used before that. WHAT IS GOING ON?!
January 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
412,
I think you missed a joke there.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
412 doesn’t like jokes, unless they are anti-liberal, anti-muslim, or anti-hockey.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I know you were Brave, and I agree with it wholeheartedly. I didn’t mean to infer that my experience would be the same as everyone else who is Catholic, rather I was trying to, and I’m not sure I did a very good job of it, demonstrate how prevalent some types of persecution still are in this country and how they lurk just outside tolerant, open, city centers. Anyone who has lived in Houston knows just how diverse and tolerant the city is (though it doesn’t even compare to San Francisco) due to it’s large black, hispanic, asian, and gay communities and these communities all coexist to a degree that is certainly on par with better known centers of tolerance such as San Franscisco.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
@ BraveSrRob - Oh, I get it now. Sammy called Jesus a fictional character! That passes for comedy with the likes of Sammy and his pals (and at esteemed institutions of higher learning such as North Idaho College!).
January 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Sammy is a moron, can you ban his ass TBL? I saw you already deleted one of his comments.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
wow, all this spawned from a horse toothed, vodka swilling, full of testosterone Dana Jacobson…
I just wonder what the hoopla would have been if Jay Crawford had then grabbed her ass and Salisbury had been caught with his cell phone down the front of his pants again…
January 25th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Nice one 412, check the link now.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Oh boy, Owl X is back, with his “we’re at war in Iraq & Afghanistan because they’re not Christian nations” rhetoric.
He will sweep any Muslim-inspired hatred/destruction under the rug at all costs, of course; lest he offend.
Is this TBL’s first legit troll?
January 25th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Wondered where you have been, oh defender of all things Right
January 25th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
That was kind of a garbled, somewhat incoherent comment from me. I’ll say this and then let it go: I completely and utterly reject the assertions by 412 and I have seen nothing from 412 or in my life’s experience to back up any of what he is saying. 412, love your avatar, but I respectfully disagree. I less respectuflly disagree with your broad generalization about liberals being the persecutors of Christians as it seems to paint all of us liberals with the same brush.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Hey look Owl, just yesterday a radical Christian group was arrested in Spain for plotting suicide attacks!
Haha. Just kidding. They were Islamic.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
I’m all for the healthy discussion, but let’s try to keep it remotely civil, people. I know religion is one of those dicey issues that you aren’t supposed to talk about, but as long as the discord is civil, i have no problems.
I try not to do this, but I had to delete a few comments i thought crossed the line.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
ok people guess what the world will never have people holding hands across the world and singing kumbaya. so what i suggest you do is sit back and dont become to pissy when someone says something about a dude who was alive before any of us was born. and maybe catholism wouldnt be treated so badly if most of the men responsible for teaching that religion werent caught fondling little boys and nothing happened about it. this world has become waaay to sensitive about every thing. there are good people in every relgion. probably about 95 % of the people who follow a certain religion are good people but its that 5% that give everyone a bad name. but i will say this those bible or koran thumpin people are usually the first one to judge and act holier than though. so what a girl got drunk and said f@#! jesus. big deal. and by the way i would totally do her.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Ok fixed.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
MikeNYC-Christians are all full of love