Mexican Death Metal, La Bamba, and Sunkist: an Interview with Author Chuck Klosterman
Media Interviews January 28th. 2008, 1:47pm
Today we have an interview with iconic Gen X author Chuck Klosterman. You probably read Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs, which made the NYT bestseller list. He also writes for ESPN.com and is a columnist at Esquire. (He’s our second Esquire subject; Chris Jones was the first.) Klosterman has been interviewed countless times, unlike our usual subjects, who are usually doing the interviewing. To combat this, we asked him a few sports questions (Tim Tebow!), blended in some music stuff (Tom Petty!), and then went with several completely off-beat inquires (soda!). We guarantee you will learn at least two things – what a chupacabra is, and what the voice of Jon Favreau sounds like in the written form. No – make that three: there is another relevant Anthony Mason in this world.
Q: One of the questions we’ve gotten recently: ‘You guys are a random anonymous blog, yet sportswriters willingly talk to you, even if they don’t know who you are. Why is that?’ (In an effort of full disclosure, not everyone talks to us – in two years, we have been rejected by, among others, a major columnist in Chicago, one in Detroit, and Andy Katz.) So why the heck did you talk to us? And please don’t say because we asked.
A: But that’s my actual answer. Why, exactly, would I be motivated NOT to respond to you e-mail? It’s not like writing this e-mail is some kind of difficult, time-draining process. I don’t necessarily agree with a lot of the things you blog about, but that’s a minor issue. I remember when Bob Dylan appeared on an episode of “Dharma and Greg” and everyone asked him why he agreed to do so. He said something along the lines of, “Well, no one ever asked me to be on a TV show before.” What other answer could he give?
Q: Because we’re curious, since you mentioned it: Your thoughts on the Tom Brady as the next JFK Jr.
A: It would be more interesting if he became the next Ted Kennedy.
Q: Surely you’ve been asked this before, but North Dakota to Akron to Esquire columnist in a short amount of time … this happens to perhaps 1% of writers (if they’re lucky). What was your tipping point, where the books and serious publications all started to snowball? Was it one phone call? A connections thing? Did your stuff fall into the lap of a very important person?
A: It didn’t happen in “a short amount of time.” I worked in newspapers for eight years before I ever considered moving to New York. I wrote “Fargo Rock City” at night, while I was still at the Akron Beacon Journal. That manuscript was purchased by an editor at Scribner for $25,000. It was the first book he had ever acquired. That was probably the best day of my life. After that, I basically assumed I would remain in the newspaper industry; I was able to write a couple of things for the NY Times Magazine in my spare time, and that was extremely satisfying. Then I took 12 weeks of unpaid vacation from the ABJ and wrote “Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs” during the spring of 2002. This was still in my apartment in Akron. The experience of writing that book was great; that was a really good period of my life. And then — for whatever the reason, but mostly because of “Fargo Rock City” — SPIN hired me in May. I think I knew three people in New York when I moved here. But then “Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs” eventually came out in the summer of 2003, and that’s when I was asked to start writing for Esquire.
Q: What books/publications did you read while in high school?
A: I read a lot of traditional fiction and a lot of biographies. I liked stories about dystopias and suicide. I liked Richard Wright novels and terrestrial science fiction. I read “Season on the Brink” four times. I probably read “Animal Farm” ten times. Whenever I found something I liked, I would read it over and over and over again. I enjoy remembering things. The only magazines that really interested me were Sports Illustrated and Hit Parader.
Q: Seven weeks on the NYT nonfiction best-seller list. Assuming you received dozens of media requests during this time. What is the highest-profile media outlet that you’ve passed on, and why? TV, magazine, newspaper, blog, or otherwise.
A: Whenever someone tells you about all the media opportunities they chose to decline, they’re just trying to latently brag. What is the point of talking about things I DIDN’T do?
Q: Sex, Drugs and Coco Puffs – how does this book happen? Did you have to put together a formal pitch and sell people on it for weeks/months, or were you a big enough deal at that point that they just came to you and said, ‘hey, what do you have?’ and it was greenlit?
A: That’s not how it works. I wrote three long-form essays and showed them to Scribner. I proposed writing a book that would be a collection of 15 to 18 essays written in the same style, connected by an abstract theme. They said, “Okay, let’s see what happens.” There’s no trick to this. The only way to write a book is to write it.
Q: Fifteen years ago, sports fans primarily got their sports news from two sources: newspapers and Sportscenter. That is definitely not the case today. In fifteen years, what do you think it might be like? Will newsprint be so expensive and advertising so online-based that we may see some papers just forget about the hard-copies?
A: First of all, I don’t agree with you. I would say that 90 percent of sports news still *orginates* from newspaper journalists and from ESPN. There are now thousands of sources REACTING to that information, and there are millions of sites REDISTRIBUTING that content. But almost all of the meaningful content is still being generated by traditional news gathering sources. And this is obviously killing newspapers, because they can’t continue spending money on news collection if free on-line sources are aggregating that content and repackaging it a faster, simpler context. Over time, it will be fiscally impossible to sustain publications whose primary purpose is complicated, protracted news gathering. This is why the future of media is an ever-increasing number of people sardonically commenting on an ever-decreasing amount of information. I see no reason to be optimistic.
Q: Better storyline: Is this finally the year Bill Self wins a big game in March for Kansas, or Memphis and their quest to go unbeaten?
A: If Memphis goes unbeaten, it will only be because they’re in Conference USA. I still think UCLA will have the best team down the stretch. All things considered, I suppose I’d like to see Kansas win the title. It would certainly make the guys in Tool happy.
Q: When somebody calls you, “the reigning Kasparov of pop-culture wits-matching,” as the San Francisco Chronicle did, does this become a running joke among friends? Is it talked about during Thanksgiving dinner?
A: I suppose this would become more of an issue if I were ever involved in some kind of wits-matching situation. Michael Weinreb makes fun of me; that’s about as far as it goes.
Q: What will Tim Tebow be doing in five years?
A: This is an interesting question. Because he does not seem like a traditional NFL quarterback in any way, it seems entirely plausible that Tebow will end up being a three-time Heisman winner. I don’t think he’ll leave early. But he will eventually get drafted by someone (I’ve heard Jerry Jones really likes him), and he’ll have a pro career. Football philosophy tends to evolve vertically, so I suspect a handful of NFL offensive coordinators will be experimenting with spread offenses and QB platooning by 2013. He might be part of that trend. They’ll all abandon it by 2017, but a few coaches will try (just like they did with the run-and-shoot). One thing I like about football is that it never fails to embrace any potential innovation.
Q: We need a Super Bowl prediction, and MVP, and thoughts on whether or not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers will perform well.
A: I think New England will win by 40. I assume Tom Petty will be solid. Has anyone ever built more of a canonical career entirely based on the perception of solidity?
Q: You don’t have to say whom you are voting for, but what interests you most about this year’s presidential primaries?
A: This is the most wide-open race since 1928. Everything about it is interesting. I feel like the schism between Hillary and Obama goes to the core of what people think they want from leadership.
Q: As a music fan, what do you make of the RIAA telling people that even if you upload CDs you purchased legally to your ipod, you are breaking the law? Also, please tell us your last two CD purchases.
A: Copyright laws were not designed to deal with rapid changes in technology. The RIAA is just arguing in every direction simultaneously. The last two CDs I purchased were “Pink” by Boris and the soundtrack to “La Bamba.”
Q: Solsbury Hill by Peter Gabriel. Is this a great song to chill out to, or what? And how money was it of Cameron Crowe to jam this into Vanilla Sky?
A: It’s okay. I like that song. Why are you asking me questions in the voice of Jon Favreau?
Q: Name two movies that you have seen recently that you might recommend, and then give us your thoughts on No Country for Old Men.
A: The best movie I’ve seen in the last two years was “There Will Be Blood.” I could relate to the main character. In fact, I hope to spend my reclining years eating steak by hand while drunkenly beating adversaries to death in my home-installed bowling alley. Last week I rented a documentary called “Deep Water” about a guy who goes insane while trying to race a sailboat around the world. I could relate to that dude, too. I enjoyed “No Country for Old Men,” but I felt like the Coen brothers were so adamant about adhering to the original novel that they accidentally took the emphasis off the most interesting cinematic aspects of the story.
Q: You’re starting an NBA team, and have first pick of anyone in the league. You go LeBron over Kobe, right?
A: Yes. Although if we were only playing one game, I would take Kobe.
Q: Give us two reasons why Mountain Dew is better soda than Sunkist.
A: It’s more delicious and more life-sustaining. Are you high? Sunkist isn’t even as good as Orange Crush.
Q: You are at a bar, and have the choice of sitting next to Mike Lupica, Anthony Mason or Mary Lou Retton. Whom do you pull up a chair next to and why?
A: Are you referring to, “Anthony Mason, the basketball player” or “Anthony Mason, the former Chief Justice of the High Court of Australia”? That would be a key issue. I have a lot of questions about dingo legalization.
Q: It seems as if your sporting interests are the NBA, NFL and College Basketball. Are you a baseball fan, and if so, what team do you root for and why?
A: My favorite sport (by far) is college football. I follow the Minnesota Twins, but that’s mostly because it’s summer and there’s nothing else to follow. I would rather watch spring drills for any SEC football team than an early season baseball game.
Q: If you had the ability to watch any 90210 episode right now, which one would you choose and why?
A: The one where David listens to Mexican death metal and snorts crank. Or maybe that episode where Kelly Taylor has sex with a chupacabra and Donna joins the Branch Davidians.
Q: Tell us something interesting.
A: Everything on “Lost” is happening inside the imagination of an autistic boy from Boston.
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January 28th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
A: First of all, I don’t agree with you. I would say that 90 percent of sports news still *orginates* from newspaper journalists and from ESPN. There are now thousands of sources REACTING to that information, and there are millions of sites REDISTRIBUTING that content. But almost all of the meaningful content is still being generated by traditional news gathering sources
I don’t know this guy at all, but I think he made a good point there.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Excellent point on newspapers and journalism indeed.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
anytime someone works in the term “Branch Davidians” it can’t be a bad interview.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
TBL, this is the most entertaining interview you’ve done since the original Whitlock interview. Of course, it helps that the subject is so candid.
I somewhat agree with his assessment of Obama and Hillary. However, I believe some people are also fed up with the whole Bush-Clinton-Bush presidencies and would rather forgo another Clinton. Bill’s trying to remind us they’re a package deal.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Good read TBL. Is it just me, or does this one seem like the most adversarial interview posted here in some time, or ever? Good thing for TBL he sent the questions via e-mail, and magically got in return e-mailed answers. If this were a live interview, I could see TBL peeing his pants, or getting all old school Mike Wallace on this hippie.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
TBL you always get some pretty sweet interviews and that is fun for us. The fact is that this guy still kind of bugs me. Like, is he so super cool that everything he does isn’t cool today, but will be super cool like, five years from now? Retro sweetness is way awesome.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Klosterman always strikes me as a douche and I still feel that way after reading this Q & A. I will say this…his take on Mainstream Media and the Internet is dead on…I love blogs…hell I always read this one but he has a point..you don’t generate a hell of a lot of news and as the newspapers downsize..less newsworthy and important content will be available to comment on. Also, I love you TBL..I really do…but some of your questions did suck ass for this interview. Do you go back and forth in a conversational style of e-mail or do you just send him like 20 questions and post the answers?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I know nothing about him but he does seem like someone who would think Juno had the hippest dialogue ever.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Agreed with all the comments. I liked his Esquire column and then really got on board last year when he wrote from the Final 4. It was the definitive Final 4 blog. You wonder how come he hasn’t been hired as a media consultant.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
you don’t generate a hell of a lot of news
Correct. I don’t think that is the ultimate goal of blogs, though. If you’re going to blogs looking for transactions, you’re in the wrong place.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
You left out one question: How are you able to cope with having the most insufferably annoying voice ever?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Was Mariotti the Chicago guy who declined?
Klosterman is near the top of the list of authors/writers that I have been meaning to read and after this article I plan on buying Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs from Amazon.
Nice interview, TBL.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Is he one of these guys who’s cool, as in ‘I wear T-Shirts that say ACDC World Tour ‘82′, and ‘I like stupid stuff so that makes me cool’ kind of guy?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
“Are you high.” Klosty
We ask that of TBL every day. Usually, we just find out that most of the commenters are high.
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I can’t figure out if I like this guy or not. I guess that is good as I stay interested in him enough to care. I get Esquire as well and the articles are pretty good. Hell, he gets bonus points from me for mentioning Tool and KU in the same sentence.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
He really doesn’t seem to feel you guys. Called you high and everything.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I read Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs. I found it shallow and pedantic. Though it did remind me of an episode of Saved By The Bell.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Fact – went for sushi this weekend. Decided to have some sake. It was some rough sake. To wash it down, i asked for a sunkist. the woman didn’t seem to understand and said, ‘it’s orange?’ and i said yes. I asked her to bring the can. It was in fact, Sunkist. It was great, too.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Fact – went for sushi this weekend, high.
Fixed.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
TBL –
Why did you post a picture of Bruce Vilanch?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Sunkist and sake: the new rum and coke?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
January 28th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
If I wanted to build a good team, I’d take Lebron. If I want to win one game, I go Kobe? Fuck the heck?
That’s the most illogical argument.
I agree with CRM. Guy’s very shallow and pedantic, much like the meatloaf I had for lunch.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
/newspapers and ESPN
January 28th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Zathura was a rip-off of Jumangi
January 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Was it me or did Chuck not really answer your question about where people get their news from? He is right about the origination of news (i.e.–traditional newspapers, espn, cnn, whatever), but he seemed to go way out of his way to sort of take a shot at folks who write blogs. He lets the newspaper industry off easy with remarks like that.
Does he understand that the first place alot people turn to first thing in the AM for news is “The Drudge Report” (and Matt Drudge is no reporter) and for sports, sites such as this one and Deadspin? How does he explain that?
BTW: Read Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs. It was entertaining. What is he going to write about when that particular schtick runs thin? (kind of like Simmons after the Sox finally won)
January 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I love Klosterman’s writing, but couldn’t find it in myself to buy his Cocoa Puffs book. It wasn’t edible.
That wasn’t funny. But I’m serious.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I’ve found that most journalists feel the same way about blogs that Klosterman does. I know a few journos in particular who feel like some of the higher-profile blogs end up getting credit (read: hits) for the work they’re producing. It’ll be interesting to see how blogs change as newspapers change. My guess is that as newspapers decline, so too will blogs.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
CaseyLive:
That’s like saying you expect digital music use to go down as CD sales dwindle. WTF?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
You ever try to get Le Ann Schriber in one of these interviews? I’d love to hear her take on the evolution of media, the job of criticizing her employer, etc.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I can’t believe Prop Joe met his untimely fate last night on “The Wire.” I was not expecting it, at all. Damn, Smash can’t play no more on “Friday Night Lights” wonder if TMU will revoke his scholarship.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
He’s like a less effeminate looking Mo Rocca with more interests other than promoting his own stuff.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Yeah blogs are the wave of the future Casey, are you a newspaper reporter in disguise?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
He doesn’t teach you what a chupacabra is, he just mentions one.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Spanish for “The Goat sucker”
January 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Kolsterman is someone who is mildly entertaining at times, very annoying at times, and as a net result I kind of feel like I want to smash his face in.
January 28th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
TBL, anything about last Friday’s FNL coming up?
January 28th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
He doesn’t teach you what a chupacabra is, he just mentions one.
Yes, but did you not look one up instantly?
FNL … tomorrow.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Klosterman’s later stuff is pretty good too. S,D &CCP was good but doesn’t age well. His last book Klosterman IV was a collection of his Esquire stuff among other things. It is really entertaining.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
when did the lead singer of Phish start writing for ESPN
January 28th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Great interview. Time to read Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Who didn’t know what el chupacabra was? Didn’t any of you watch The X Files?
Agere with whoever said the interview seemed “adversarial.” It seemed like he started half of his answers by disagreeing with one of your premises.
@Big Nuts: I loved the callback to Season 2, showing that Johnny Fifty (the one who helped Ziggy steal the BMWs off the docks) is now homeless. Not really surprising, considering the state the union was in.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I agree with Ben. Everyone knew that annoying kid in college who didn’t laugh at obviously funny movies because they were beneath him, only listened to music that nobody had heard of just so he could say the weird band names, and in general had a condescending air about them. That is who I think Klosterman is, although I still enjoy his writing
January 28th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Sunkist + Sake? No, man… Sunkist is suppose to be drank with Jager. The result is what is called a “jagerkist”.
You guys should all really know what a chupacabra is. Shame on you gringos…
January 28th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
All of Chuck K.’s books are great. Fargo Rock City is hilarious.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Never seen one episode of x-files.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
What I’m saying is that solid reporting, which almost always comes from newspapers, is the basis of what people write about on blogs. Blogs are great for analysis of news, but by and large useless in finding and reporting news outside of the “so-and-so is dating so-and-so” type reporiting.
Take this blog for example. The post about Eric Bedard, Tom Brady and almost all of the Roundup are based on newspaper reports. So as newspapers decline in delivering content, I see blogs declining in quality due to a lack of quality reporting from newspapers. Some of those reporters will probably end up moving to web-based reporting, but damage will be done.
I’m one of the few people who actually makes a living from blogging. It’s my job, not just something I do for fun. That being the case, I’m not about the bite the proverbial newspaper hand which feeds me.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Hakeem, you were able to provide examples while I provided only a fun visual (at least for myself). You listen to obscure music and watch obscure films…you must be cool!
January 28th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Hakeem–you stated it perfectly…that’s exactly what I’d say. I still love his books. Bought the last two as soon as they came out. But he does seem like a dick sometimes with the obscure references.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Awesome. I also thought the money quote was the one referenced in the first comment. He’s right. The outlook for sports journalism is “not awesome” right now. At least not the way it’s aggregated – providing content for blogs are not the way to run a business. Sports news is kind of like Norv Turner’s career. It never ends, and there are some occasionally good moments. I think there’s a solution out there. Just not sure what it is, yet.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Klosterman makes a good point about 90% of news content being reported by traditional sources, but then goes a little off the deep end. Who goes to blogs to get sports news, or any sort of news for that matter? Unless they are more like Sports news blogs.
I see blogs making an impact upon the newspapers opinions, lifestyles, and entertainment sections. Places where opinion was prevalent in the newspaper are being made obsolete. For example sports, it used to be that the only opinion I could read on Denver Sports was Woody Paige. As FJM would say “Fuck the Heck”. now I, thankfully, have other options. That’s a good thing.
So yeah I go other places for opinion, but for actual news I still head to the Denver Post (or Rocky Mountain News). I don’t see how that’s going to change. In fact the more blogs that pop up, means there is a demand for more news to comment on. Blogs, like newspapers, need to stay fresh and original to get readers. This means commenting on more little-known stories. If the amount of actual news decreases, then so do the number of blogs, until demand exceeds supply and more news needs to be reported, meaning more blogs will sprout up offering opinions on that news. It’s simple supply and demand.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Casey – While I agree with most of what you wrote (obviously newspapers generate a large portion of the content), at the risk of speaking for everyone, the premise of blogs isn’t to ‘break news.’ At least not in my case.
I also think some of the best reporting is coming from websites now. Websites such as Yahoo, Fox Sports SI.com and ESPN.com. When you were tracking the Mitchell report, where did you first get your info? In addition, some of the best long-form stories I’ve read in 2008 are happening at those sites.
Here’s another question – the Magic played the Celtics yesterday on TV. Are you more likely to go to the Celtics Blog (which is fantastic) or the Boson papers for your opinion? Neither Boston paper is going to send a columnist to the game, especially not with a team in the Super Bowl.
If something happens with the Bulls this week, will you read a Mariotti column (from the Super Bowl, having presumably spoken to nobody) or Blog a Bull?
January 28th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
It’s not like chupacabra is that obscure. I figured that reference by Klosterman would be beneath him. It seems an Egbere would have worked better there.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I’m in total agreeence with you TBL. I don’t expect blogs to break news. What I’m saying is that some people seem to think that blogs don’t need newspapers to remain vital, and I’m of the exact opposite opinion.
I also agree about the national sports websites. Some of the best content in or out of a newsroom. But almost everyone writing for those sites made their bones in newspaper. Where are the next generation of journos going to cut their teeth if the local daily keeps scaling back?
As far as the which to chose question goes, I’m going to get my opinion from both, but if I had to choose, I would still go with the paper. I mean, it’s not like Jeff from Celtics Blog is traveling with the team either, so I might as well read someone who knows the players, knows the coaches, goes to practices, shootarounds, pre-game coach availability, ect. Matt from Blog-a-Bull is a great guy. He was integral in helping me get my start on the web. But he’s still a guy (if I’m not mistaken) who works a regular 9-to-5 then follows the Bulls in his off-hours. That being said, his word is gospel compared to Mariotti.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that newspapers are the jumping off point for almost everything we talk/blog about on the web. If and when those sources weaken, so does everything else.
January 28th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
CaseyLive – what is your site address? I would like to visit…
January 28th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Do people really seem to think blogs don’t need newspapers? Who are these people?
January 28th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Is that the episode of the X-Files where some dude in Mexico has some sort of moss in his genes, and he kills everyone he touches?
January 28th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Totally agree with Casey. The balance of blogging/journalism works right now, in this strange transition period of newspaper’s downsizing, while on-lines are branching out. But lots and lots of money has been spent my newspapers, not to mention students, on learning about news reporting. There is an infrastructure there that needs to be maintained.
I would also agree that I don’t think the future of news analysis, whether it be on Barack Obama or Luol Deng, is going to come from a guy getting off of his day job.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I think the point is that newspapers are going away. And it seems like some blogs – maybe not your’s – are relishing that.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
First I started this blog, then started this blog (which is much better now than when I wrote it, btw), then got hired on to write this blog, before finally being hired on to write this blog (amongst other duties). All in all, this has been about a three-year, luck-influenced process. I went from working full-time in media services and part-time at sports desk at the Statesman Journal while also writing a blog in my spare time to working for an NBA franchise. There might not be anyone who owes more to blogging than I do.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
TBL, solid interview. I wish you’d asked Klosterman what he was smoking when he struck upon the idea for his December Esquire column, about the 3 major networks looking different, though they actually don’t. I agreed with most of his points until my head exploded. Klosterman IV was a good read. Can’t say I enjoy all his stuff. In his essays, he tends to overuse some variance of this rhetorical device: “Is this really important? And should we care?”
Other than that, he knows how to use a semi-colon.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
No sane person would say that blogs don’t need newspapers, but it’s obvious blogs are filling a need for people that is not being met by traditional news outlets.
Folks like Chuck choose to either disparage bloggers or ignore them altogether, but fact is, blaming bloggers for the downfall of newspapers is the type of attitude that doesn’t give me much hope about the newspaper industry.
@CaseyLive: Yes, please share your URL.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Casey – While there is a slow demise of newspapers, I haven’t seen any links that imply that the Associated Press is laying writers off. They are still at every pertinent sporting event, every relevant press conference, and in all the locker rooms. There will always be news, be it on the wires, traditional papers, magazines (increasing moving to the web), or expanding websites.
In addition, if you have time, please do check out ‘what readers want in their TV news.’ It is about the rapid rise of Fox News.
Lastly, I really haven’t seen any blog “hoping” for newspapers to go away.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Just for kicks … Friday, we had a record 17 posts. Let’s take a look at the breakdown:
- ESPN Klosterman piece
- SAS blog
- Event – Federer loss
- Clemens – we linked to NYT, but AP had it
- Blog (fantasy)
- Roundup (various)
- Video (tv)
- Audio (prank calling conf call; radio station?)
- photo
- Duke (reaction to games)
- newspaper (backboard shattered, Palm Beach Post)
- Dana Jacobson photos (originated in newspaper article, nudged by blogs)
- Fox Sports column
- NBA games
- Dana Jacobson photos (see above)
- Incredible hulk (blog post and TV show)
- Roundup
I don’t know if we have this diverse of a lineup each day, but blogs work when you can provide obscure links and unearth news that the reader can’t get from hopping over to the NYT or ESPN or SI.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I don’t think that blogs want newspapers to go away and it does not even seem like anyone is really saying that. The conclusion is that if people get the news from blogs, if newspaper do not get the links they will just eventually die out (how will they be supported?).
I think its more likely that Beat Blogs become the norm as a way to monetize the value of the content. This is happening already.
January 28th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Great coup on the Klosty interview. As far as I am concerned, he’s the most interesting writer alive today. I spent about five minutes talking to him at the Final 4 last year, discussing the merits of Kiss’s “no makeup-era” albums.
January 28th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
TBL: Seriously, were you high? These are the most inane, retarded, and stupid questions I’ve ever seen asked of someone. If I was this guy I would have just stopped responding to you after the Mountain Dew question. Man this was by far your weakest interview.
January 28th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
When the AP is laying off reporters, that’s when we’ll know the news-gathering business is in trouble? That doesn’t sound very reasonable. Klosterman’s position, that the business of blogging relies heavily on newspaper fact-gathering (and columns) is correct. How the independent bloggers moves forward will be really interesting. I suspect we’ll see great bloggers like Casey and yourself rewarded, but our blogs will resemble print media, with better access, and more beholden to editors and advertisers.
And God save us if we have to rely on the AP. This is a direct quote from an AP article, in reference to Brandon Inge:
“Inge hit .236 with 14 homers and 71 RBIs in 151 games last year, when he had 18 errors and probably twice as many spectacular plays on defense”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3219313
January 28th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I love Brandon Inge’s defense. Seriously.
January 28th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Sex, Drugs, and Coca Puffs is worth the money. Buy it from where ever.
The rest of his books are repackaged thoughts and, in many cases, Esquire and Spin columns. Save your money. If you must read it, then check it out from the library.
If you want to read something more than Sex, Drugs, and Coca Puffs, then I recommend Killing Yourself to Live. Good idea, good build up, and then nothing.
He would have a far better book had he looked at how many stars remain stars or become bigger stars in death. Also, I wished he had discussed whether Led Zeppelin still exits. He writes about Bonham’s death. If Led Zeppelin tour with a new drummer, am I watching Led Zeppelin or am I watching something else? I had this discussion in a college class. I was on the minority by arguing that Led Zeppelin can no longer exists.
For what ever reason, Klostermann eschews these themes in Killing Yourself to Live.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
@ Bevo…if you think that Fargo Rock City was “repackaged thoughts”, you are seriously mistaken. Makes me think you haven’t read it.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:13 am
For some reason, I once associated Klosterman and Malcolm Gladwell. As I look back, I can only surmise that must have been because I read “Sex, Drugs…”, “Fargo Rock City”, “Blink”, and “Tipping Point” more or less in succession. Otherwise, there is no comparison. Klosterman is a poor man’s Gladwell. No…he’s a homeless man’s Gladwell. And, I hate to out and out slam some one in such a way, but upon re-reading this interview it seems to me that Klosterman puts off a most unpleasant too-cool-for-TBL attitiude…and that really pissed me off.
What will Tim Tebow be doing in five years!?! To hell with that: what will Klosterman be doing in five years? Oh, I know…he’ll be one of the pop culture asshats on VH1.
Damn…this guy really pissed me off. Prick.
January 29th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Good interview. For the record…I vote “Fargo Rock City” as his most entertaining book especially for those who grew up listening to 80’s hair metal.
I do think some people try too hard to label Klosterman as a douche`. This is just a guy who listened to Motley Crue and Kiss while watching a lot of TV. Basically, he’s sort of managed to put something like Best Week Ever or I Love The 80’s (3-D?) in print.