Ballin’: Iverson Returns to Filthydelphia
NBA March 20th. 2008, 8:24am
Philadelphia 115, Denver 113: Allen Iverson’s return to Philly was impressive - 32 points, eight assists - until he missed a jumper at the end that would have sent the game into overtime. Fans miss him, and the consensus is that the old man has matured.
Cleveland 89, Detroit 73: Wally Szczerbiak said, “All my buddies, all the fans, everybody, all they want to do is beat Detroit.” Man, that playoff series is going to be rad. So would one against Washington, because LeBron might average 40 a night against trash-talking DeShawn Stevenson.
New Orleans 90, Houston 69: Fourth quarter scoring - Bonzi Wells 20, Houston Rockets 10. This game was tied heading into the fourth.
Washington 87, Orlando 86: Dwight Howard labored through foul trouble and had his worst game of the season - 1-for-6, three points, four turnovers - and Hedo’s career-high 39 weren’t enough. The Wiz have now surpassed the projected win total of an ESPN writer, which makes a blogger happy.
Phoenix 110, Seattle 96: Raja Bell led a 15-for-21 effort from three by going 6-for-6 as the Suns overcame 26 turnovers to win their sixth in a row and claw within half a game of the Hornets and Lakers for first in the West. After Bell sank his sixth three, he twisted an ankle and didn’t return.
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March 20th, 2008 at 8:27 am
im not gonna say a thing about the cavs…but detroit really sucks. sheed was 2-8 from 3. why the fuck is rasheed wallace, a PF, taking 8 3’s? if a team plays tough inside defense and has a guy who can check rip, the pistons have almost no offense.
if sheed is playing in the post, he’s unstoppable because he can go out there, but he couldnt get a single thing going inside so he was just jacking up 3’s like nobody’s business. that was an ugly game.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:30 am
detroit needs a coach. if chauncey billups is such a team leader why cant he get his big man to geton the block and act like one? Thats his job right get his teammates the ball in a position where they would have an easy shot.flip saunders is an idiot he’s done if the pistons dont win it all.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:31 am
TBl if you watched that game, you know that was a foul at the end. Hedo was driving to the paint and got fouled. Such bullshit on that call. It was Hedos Bday, at least give him the call ref.
Dwight Howard is overrated
/ DeShaun Stevenson
March 20th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Unrelated: Orlando Sentinel has lots of photos of the hooker, some topless, but SFW.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:37 am
And a star was born.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:37 am
jb49ers…then flip is gone. and mr. big shot is just awful. he thinks his nickname still applies, so whenever the clock is winding down, they do the iso play where he can create a shot at the end, and then all he does is try a crossover and hit a long 2 or a 3…EVERY TIME.
he couldnt get sheed to the block because sheed didnt wanna go down there. tayshaun had to cover sheeds ass on the offensive glass and because of that, he suffered on offense going 5-14 with guys like wally guarding him. that shouldnt happen.
and theres no way it’s going to improve because the players dont respect flip like they did larry brown.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Rasheed is lazy or just doesn’t care.
The Pistons act like they’re this great dynasty, when they’ve only won 1 title.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:39 am
@spencer- the pistons were gassed last night after putting up 134 against Denver team the night before. People never take the travel into account for most of these games.
i will add this positive note for the Cavs, your still in 4th place
March 20th, 2008 at 8:40 am
I heard somewhere that the GGW dude was going to offer her a million to do a video, then one of his staffers dug up this video and he said it was like finding a winning lottery ticket in your couch.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:41 am
On Ballin, nice to see Philly show a little class for once, and the Suns are starting to warm up. I’m still doubtful, but they are coming around.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:41 am
This isn’t a dig at grungedave or hakeem, but from a pure comedy standpoint, how funny would it be if Houston falls out of the playoffs? At the very least fall out of home court (which is pretty likely)?
March 20th, 2008 at 8:42 am
You are right I mean how the fuck does Tayshaun not tack wally’s ass to the rack everytime? that’s a mismatch if i ever seen one. Lebron is a bull going to the basket when he drops his shoulder its kinda like when shaq would turn into you wtih that elbow. chauncey and rip are NOT the best backcourt in the nba why do the so called experts keep saying that shit.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Ignore this comment still trying to figure out how to make these butons
March 20th, 2008 at 8:42 am
take wallys ass / fixed
March 20th, 2008 at 8:43 am
irish…these are NBA players in top physical condition and it’s not like Denver put a beating on them, Denver couldnt play defense if the Heat-era Pat Riley was coach. plus, i would hope that THE SAVVY VETERAN EXPERIENCED PISTONS would either save a little energy or take a game against the team that embarassed them last year a little more seriously. for a bunch of guys with that much experience, they sure play like a bunch of immature bitches.
and a 2 hour bus-ride (or more likely 40 minute plane ride) from detroit to cleveland shouldnt be a big deal.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:44 am
coop…agreed, that was a really nice gesture the fans gave AI.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:44 am
they played in Denver spencer, but i hear ya
i know your happy with the big win
March 20th, 2008 at 8:45 am
So the Tourney Challenge just hit 500, are people double dipping, because as George found out, that is not Kosher.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:45 am
‘Sheed jacks up threes because it’s easier to do that then go down low and bang with Ben Wallace. He’s a big soft pussy and has been one his entire career.
The Heat realize that you can’t get any lower than the #1 pick, right? #1 is locked up guys, you can actually try a little bit now.
Poor Eliot Spitzer. The chick that his ugly ass had to pay $1,000 an hour to screw was getting railed out by douchebags in the back of Joe Francis’ bus.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:46 am
irish…check it again. espn says they played in detroit.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:46 am
how many will the rockets loose now?
March 20th, 2008 at 8:50 am
That is funny shit Dirty! Not only did he fuck up being governor but he can’t even screw what he thought to be exclusive tang. It was tang that had been hit by some poor college kid that was drunk! Karma Bitch
March 20th, 2008 at 8:50 am
at least i got you to check, lol
March 20th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Which team is that back tied with the Lakers with 15 left to play?
March 20th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Is there a record in the books for most wins in a row followed by most losses in a row?
March 20th, 2008 at 8:53 am
SUcks to be Spitzer. I mean this chick just wont go away. His kids are getting teased at school his wife isn’t giving him any ass and the chick he paid $4300 for a peice is a fucking slut and will probably end up with a book deal or something.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:54 am
irish…bastard.
there will be no work done here today.
March 20th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Just over 2 hours until the nation becomes one big unproductive piece of shit
March 20th, 2008 at 8:59 am
RD texted me last night that he didn’t think LeBron had played that well. I completely disagree. Last night, he wasn’t dominating the ball, or dribbling at the win endlessly and allowing the defense to get set. He played a “Kobe game” (when Gasol/Bynum is there).
I guess RD wanted more stats! Good game for the Cavaliers. Ben Wallace played the best defense he’s played since coming over. Will he try as hard when he’s not playing the Pistons? We’ll have to wait and see.
I also am noticing that Wally refuses to pass to LeBron, and pretty much, vice versa. I don’t think these guys like eachother at all.
Oh and for what it’s worth, Rasheed is shooting .438 this year. At least he’s getting you 6.9 boards a game.. Yikes!!
March 20th, 2008 at 8:59 am
i dont know how any of us get any work done
we all must be great multi taskers
March 20th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Dual monitors…only way I make it through a day
March 20th, 2008 at 9:02 am
same with me, thats funny you said that
i keep this up all day on one
March 20th, 2008 at 9:05 am
e man…dual monitors are the shit.
i think i have ADHD, i fuckin burn thru work but cant focus for more than 10 mins.
cursed…LBJ was pretty average last night, the offense in general wasted a lot, something the announcers (Jon Barry) decided to hammer home every 2 seconds. that defense tho was great to see.
i love sheed as a player, i think he’s one of the most talented PF’s in the league and would take him over KG BUT he’s such a fucking headcase. he has one of the most unstoppable post games in the league, seriously, his footwork and shot release are impeccable, but why does he only average 13 or so ppg and under 7 reb? STOP SHOOTING 3′S SHEED!!!
actually, keep shooting them while youre on the pistons.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:07 am
People finally seeing the light on Detroit. Over-rated, don’t have the hunger. Flip is awful, too, but so are most coaches in the east.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:10 am
its one game people, funny how quick people rush to judgements
How can people say Rasheed Wallace sucks? that is one of the most assinying(SP) statements to say. Yeah you may not like the team he plays for or his attitude on the court, but Rasheed Wallace is one of the best PF’s in the game right now
he is only behind Tim Duncan and KG. Stop hating people damn
March 20th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Its just two games…. But yeah scoring 74 and 69 points in consecutive nights makes me scratch my head a little.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:11 am
3pts? 3pts? What happened Irish?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:12 am
It is scary how easily LeBron puts 30 up. Even the announcers last night were saying they didn’t think LeBron was having a great game, but suddenly he had 30/7/6.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:14 am
YYSA- what do you want me to say? i have nothing today
/ hangs head
March 20th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Thats alright everyone has a bad game like that. he is still Superman. Just look the entire Miami Heat had a game like that.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:15 am
The pistons think they are san antonio of the east. veteran team that win when it counts question is do they know when it counts?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am
i love sheed, i said that earlier, but he SHOULD be more productive. he should be better on the glass but hes frequently out of position because he’s jackin 3’s.
i still take detroit over boston tho. sheed couldnt get into the paint last night because varejao and Z are tall enough to match up and big ben is pretty physical. but he should have no problem getting into the paint against the celts’ undersized front line. prince matches up perfectly against PP and rip against Jesus.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Did anyone notice how the CBS streming system works? Waiting room to have admission to watch the games? And only one admission in every 20 seconds? I’m seeing correctly?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:16 am
gotta admit it irish i thought about you last night when i saw the score flash on espn’s bottom line.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:18 am
CH40S- i signed up for that two weeks ago to get the free VIP pass. i dont know how that will benefit me yet, but i think it skips the waiting. i had that happen to me all last year at work. had to wait 5 mins to get into a room, like online poker or something
March 20th, 2008 at 9:19 am
@jb- its alright, we have won 8 out of the last ten. Cant win them all you know, but if you would of seen the highlights Hedo got fouled on the last drive. He would of went to the line and sealed it
March 20th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Raja Bell rolled his ankle on a jumper cuz Durant slightly undercut him and got a foot underneath Bell when he landed. That’s justice for you. I always hated playing ball with guys like Bell. No actual talent but would just try to cheap shot and agitate you to through you off your game.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:21 am
See, I don’t ever look at rebounds/assists to tell me if a guy played a great all around game I saw LeBron snag one defensive rebound in traffic that he maybe would have saved them the possession. And as for assists, he’s essentially the Cavalier point guard. Name me a starting point guard in the league who doesn’t run the triangle who doesn’t get around 7 assists a game.
I thought LeBron played well b/c he wasn’t dominating the ball last night. He forced some jumpers, but he always does. Every great player does.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:24 am
I’m FUCKING 14,349…that is a long ass line!
March 20th, 2008 at 9:24 am
where do you see that # eman?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I’m at 5000…and i logged in 5 minutes ago…
March 20th, 2008 at 9:26 am
irishmafia, i was reading and the VIP line has to wait also, the only difference is that they line goes faster than the general. Right now the VIP line is at 12516. Haiks!
March 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Do the Lakers’ have some shitty doctors or shitty luck they get hit hard with injuries every year but coach says Bynum will be back before the playoffs.
The Andrew Bynum injury situation took an unusual turn Wednesday when Lakers Coach Phil Jackson stepped back from his Tuesday night decree that the 20-year-old center wouldn’t return from a knee injury until the playoffs.
Bynum could now return two weeks from Sunday, Jackson said, which would give him up to six games with the Lakers before playoffs.
“I threw that out there [Tuesday] to kind of take everything off the table,” Jackson said. “We’re [now] saying it was three weeks as of [last] Sunday. It would give him a week — four games, three games
March 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
I clicked on the link when CH4OS mentiond waiting rooms.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
are you guys at the Launch Player page or are you past that
March 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
@irish, when you click on March Madness on Demand, that opens a new window and you see one graphic that says YOU ARE HERE NºXXXX
March 20th, 2008 at 9:27 am
What? Justice for you? All I saw was a pissed off rookie cheap shot a guy that was on fire. Bell really doesnt cheap shot. We are not talking Bowen here
March 20th, 2008 at 9:28 am
spence - Boston’s front line isn’t really undersized at all. Perkins and KG (plus Powe, PJ Brown, Big Baby) can take care of whatever “post-up” game Detroit comes with (see Sheed’s 8 three-point attempts). Plus Celts have taken 2 of 3 from Detroit this year already and Detroit has nowhere near the hunger the C’s have this year. In those games Tayshaun has been completely shut down by PP, and PP and KG have been dominant. No way Det. takes 4 of 7.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:28 am
CH4OS - have you moved up at all? I’m staying still at 14,349
March 20th, 2008 at 9:29 am
like irish signed up months ago and got the vip pass…
March 20th, 2008 at 9:29 am
and im still 14 k fuck this!
March 20th, 2008 at 9:31 am
@eman- how do i let the computer allow the new window to come through
it wont let the launch player come up, its taking me right to the scorecard
March 20th, 2008 at 9:33 am
e man, i moved back to 6035 LOLOL someone is cutting the line!!!!
March 20th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Raja Bell doesn’t cheap shot?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:34 am
@irish, do you have a pop-up window blocker? If you have, disable it.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:35 am
walfredo…theyre big guys, but theyre 6′9”. sheed is 6′11” and when he releases his jumper in the post, there’s not an NBA player who can block that.
my whole assumption is that sheed can get easy buckets in the paint, but if he willingly strays to the 3 pt line, its game over celts in 5. but i just see him getting down there easily because he can just shoot over all those guys with ease.
but can rondo stop chauncey? i dont think PP can stop Tayshaun. ray allen and rip is a great matchup on both sides. but nobody, not even KG can match up with sheed, and that’s the big one. plus, boston’s bigs are gonna have a shitty time trying to score in the paint because detroit is straight up nasty down there unless KG plays his 15 foot game and gets sheed out of the lane.
i will say that my criticism of the boston front line has been proved wrong, ya’ll are pretty deep now and playing good ball. i still think detroit would come out of that series, but where i used to think itd be in 5, it’s gonna go down to the wire.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:39 am
kg can do everything sheed can do. except he does it better without jacking up useless threes.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:39 am
what is the link to watch the games online?
March 20th, 2008 at 9:41 am
TBL, click here
March 20th, 2008 at 9:41 am
id rather have sheed defensively, rather have sheed’s post up game, rather have sheed’s passing.
rather have KG’s brain.
im sorry, but i just don’t see KG being such a great player. i watch a celts game and see ray ray and PP playing great but barely notice KG, then the box score comes and he somehow has a double double, but none of it seems to come at a meaningful moment. maybe i just havent seen the right stuff, but ive seen probably 12-15 celts games this year and just haven’t been impressed at all.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:42 am
I had to install the newest version of Media player. If you have a browser other than explorer you will need to follow the insturctions as to how to install the right links to open the CBS window.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:42 am
1h20m to go and the general admission line is 31k and VIP line 22k. 15 minutes when i entered it was 6k and 3k…
March 20th, 2008 at 9:44 am
if i remember last yr they did a good job getting people into the lobby to watch the games…it will move fast once tip off comes
March 20th, 2008 at 9:45 am
does this work on macs?
I’m 23,000 in line, which probably isn’t a good thing.
March 20th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Actually, I’m 33,000. 23,000 would have been my spot if it was ‘VIP’
March 20th, 2008 at 9:49 am
holy moly, im # 26,000 etc
oh my
March 20th, 2008 at 9:51 am
I am at 26K. This is going to take a while
March 20th, 2008 at 9:53 am
oh @ 26K and I am still a VIP
March 20th, 2008 at 9:55 am
@CH40s - thanks for that link. i was going through the cbs website
March 20th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Spence - I know it sounds weird and abstract, but the intensity, leadership, intangibles, etc.. that KG brings are the #1 reason the Celts are having the year they are having. He is leaps and bounds ahead of Sheed in these terms, he is GREAT defensively, and he schooled Sheed last time they played, taking him to the hole repeatedly, for like 32 points. It’s cliche but he doesn’t have to score and put up stats to dominate, but will when he has to.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:00 am
damn that general admission line is at 50,000, i keep getting backed up further and further
i hate people who budge in line ahead of you
March 20th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Cursed: Lebron is 7th in the league in assists per game, so there are at least 25 starting PGs in the Association who aren’t diming like LBJ.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:05 am
walfredo…don’t get me wrong, i like KG. i think he’s definitely an all-star and top 5 big man, but i guess it has to be that intangible stuff and i’ll agree that id rather have KG than sheed because KG isnt going to play like a fucking dumbshit.
i think my big issue with KG is that his whole screaming and pouding his chest thing is so artificial, it doesnt match his game at all. amare or dwight, definitely. KG…intensity isnt knocking down 15 footers and passing out of the lane. that could be why im so put off.
i will admit tho boston is a formidible team, but im far more scared of PP and ray than KG.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Lebron played exactly average last night. Shot a little better than usual; gave a little less on the secondary and tertiary stats.
Of course his average is, quite simply, amazing.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:05 am
kg just gets it done. second half against houston the c’s fed him the ball and he dominated. he’s not flashy but he has a smooth post game,good stroke from the outside and most importantly he isnt a nutcae.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:06 am
nutcase
March 20th, 2008 at 10:10 am
@spence: Can Rondo stop Billups?
If he can’t, no one can. Rondo is probably the best defensive PG in the Assocation. Maybe CP3 is better.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Nick P…I said “starting point guards”. If you’re a starting point guard in the NBA, and your offense revolves around driving and kickings or screen and role, it’s pretty much impossible to not average 7 assists a game. Agree right?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:11 am
@nick- stop sleeping on Deron
March 20th, 2008 at 10:13 am
cursed: I said there are currently 6 “starting point guards” in the league averaging more than Lebron (7.4ish). That leaves 24 “starting point guards” averagin gless. Agree right?
March 20th, 2008 at 10:14 am
@irish: Utah is really bad on D as a team. Maybe Deron is okay individually, but he’s not Rondo.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Nick P…i think youre forgetting about Eric Snow. BOOYA.
rondo is a good defensive PG, but chauncey will physically beat the crap outta him. rondo needs another 1.5 years to fill out more, then he’ll be tops, but right now, chauncey can just overpower him.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Eric Snow is the best defensive player of the last 25 years. He’ll guard Kobe to Dirk. Hyperbole added for emphasis.
But he has trouble with quick guys.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:26 am
spence - I feel you, but when KG does all the chest pounding theatrics, it actually works in firing up his team and the crowd, more so than Amare, or anyone else you mentioned, becuause I guess everyone knows it’s all legit. He wnats to win so damn bad that it gets everyone else to a whole other intensity level.
All else - Rondo’s D is good, but more like Iverson good (getting steals, etc…) In the half-court, he still has trouble guarding guys like Chauncey.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
You can’t exit out of the window…you have to keep that window open or you will get put in the back of the line!
March 20th, 2008 at 10:44 am
walfredo…i understand the purpose behind the theatrics, i just find it incredibly lame. just as lame as lebron stealing his baby power trick.
March 20th, 2008 at 10:49 am
His theatrics didn’t work against amare earlier this year. He owned kg’s ass.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Your mom goes to college.
March 20th, 2008 at 11:37 am
I think cursed misunderstood what I was saying about LBJ last night. He had a great night (average for him). To say he had a “Kobe game” is ridiculous, since Kobe got studs on his team he’s been trying to have “LeBron games” all year and still can’t seem to do so as effectively/efficiently as LeBron.
The reason LeBron had a great game last night was his efficiency and the fact that he allowed the rest of the team to play 4 on 3 against the Pistons all night long, and he was tough against Tay when isolated.
It’s not like LeBron pulled a game 5 or did what he’s been doing the last 2 months. He just took what the defense gave the Cavs. Last night Kobe would’ve gone 12-35 w/ 5 turnovers and Detroit would’ve kicked his ass w/ the same guys LeBron won with (Kobe needs shaq/bynum/gasol).
March 20th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
It’s funny that even for analyze LeBron’s game people have to use Kobe’s this and Kobe’s that. For a player that is not even the “best player on the Lakers” he’s pretty popular on LeBron’s fans. Why is that?!? Uhm…
/laughing…
March 20th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Dwight choked last night.
March 20th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
oh you bastard, how did you know i would click on that link
March 20th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
haha go CAVS
March 20th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
There are 23 guards in the league who average 5 assists a game (most of which are considered starting point guards). When I watch teams play, I hardly notice assists. I do notice, good passes. Many of which, never correlate to assists. That’s why the statistic is bogus. It doesn’t take into consideration what coaches would consider “good passes”.. all it does is award a player who passed to a player who happened to make a shot. Considering there are so many variables involved in this (like, did a player get fouled… did the player miss.. did the player charge or commit a turnover?) - I’d say, the assist is a relatively useless stat when attempting to evaluate say, who’s a good point guard.
March 20th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
But, I’m I guess I’m just Skip Baylessing here. Yep, I used him name as a verb.
March 20th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Now 5 APG is the gold standard?