Top Shelf: Detroit Red Wings, Stanley Cup Champs
NHL June 5th. 2008, 10:17am
Lee Diekemper recaps the final game of the NHL season.
Detroit 3, Pittsburgh 2: Not always does the best team in the regular season find itself the last one standing. That wasn’t the case this spring. Your Detroit Red Wings are the Stanley Cup champions. Again. For the fourth time in 11 years, the Red Wings held the sport’s most cherished hardware aloft in victory.
The word “dynasty” has been thrown around far too frequently in sports in the early years of the 21st Century. Free agency pretty much prevents any team from winning multiple consecutive championships. The 2008 Stanley Cup champions are not a dynasty.
What the Red Wings have done over the past decade is impressive, akin to what the Spurs have accomplished in the NBA and the Patriots in the NFL. Unlike the Patriots, it doesn’t appear the Wings needed any clandestine electronic surveillance to gain an edge; good old fashioned defense does the trick.
Facing the NHL’s current offensive juggernaut, not once in the Finals did the Wings crumble under pressure as so many Pens’ opponents in the playoffs had. In the Wings two losses in the Finals, it appeared as if the Pens were about to blow the game open early, but Detroit gathered itself and got back into the game.
Even though the Wings are much older than the Pens, the marathon on ice Monday night didn’t zap them of energy in game six as many suspected. Part of the reason this didn’t happen was the superior depth the Wings have.

Unlike the first two games in the Igloo, the Wings jumped on top first last night. Fate seemed to favor the Wings when Pens goalie Marc-Andre Fleury, who didn’t play nearly as well as he did in overtime Monday, fell backwards after initially stopping Henrik Zetterberg’s shot midway through the third, pushing the puck into the goal. It proved fatal for the Pens.
The Pens did rally late, making it “interesting” for Wings goalie Chris Osgood, nearly capping the comeback by sending the game into overtime in the final second.
After Marian Hossa pulled the Pens within a goal with roughly 90 seconds left on a power play goal, he came within inches of tying the game at the horn. He had a swipe at the puck off a Sidney Crosby backhand that seemed to hang forever on the right post behind Osgood. Hossa’s swing at the puck scooted parallel with the goal line, scant inches away as time ran out.
(Consolation for Pittsburgh people: Steelers training camp begins in about seven weeks.)
The Stanley Cup now resides in Hockeytown. Again. And for the NHL, which no longer is just for Canadians, that’s not a bad thing.
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June 5th, 2008 at 10:19 am
(banging head off of desk)
June 5th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Didn’t Detroit have the most wins in the regular season?
June 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Ah, sweet victory! I plan on making the trip to Detroit for the parade if it happens this weekend.
Nick Lidstrom, you are a God among men.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am
congrats sportsgal. i was shocked to see that detroit uses a 14 year old boy as their goalie.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am
As much as I would have rather had Pittsburgh win the Cup, Detroit was the better team. I hope that Pittsburgh can keep their core together for one more year and make a serious run at it again next year.
I also hope that Sportsgal will be gracious this morning. And still drunk. I’d be drunk for days if the Islanders won the Cup.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Lindstrom is, indeed, a God.
Jiri Hudler on the other hand, I swear I’ll beat the hell out of him if I ever see him in public. Or at least try to. Second game in a row he caused a penalty at the end to keep the Pens in it.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Great series by the Wings, a well deserved championship - I just hope Detroit fans realize how good they have it. A team that wins the President’s trophy and can win in the playoffs.
(jealous Sabres fan)
June 5th, 2008 at 10:24 am
The Wings were the better team. Period. The Pens put up a pretty good effort for a young squad that was headlined by the likes of Rico Fata and Dick Tarnstrom a few years back, but this is definitely a case of the best team winning the title.
Now Pens fans get to sit back and see which of their major free agents (Malone, Orpik, Hossa) will be coming back, if any.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:25 am
I have to say that of all the “dynasty teams” of the last couple decades, Red wings fans are the least annoying.
Congrats red wing fans, the best team definitely won and deserved this cup.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:26 am
It was a good year for Hockey. It’s popularity is back above the NBDL and appraoching the LPGA.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Watch it - I am All Seeing and All Powerful, you know.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:29 am
God:
Will a team from Buffalo ever win anything?
June 5th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Umm God? Yeah we already have a Jesus on here and it gets confusing when you have two spiritual beings on one message board.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:30 am
I don’t think the Pens have a chance at resigning Hossa. He’s going to want around $7 million, and with Sid, Malkin and Fleury coming up they’ll be hard pressed to pay those four with the salary cap.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:31 am
easy Yahweh… she said “a” god, not the god. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Sid has already signed his deal ($8.7 per year…see what he did there?) The Salary Cap is going up again to approximately $56 million, it just depends on if Mario wants to spend all the way to the cap.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:33 am
Especially when they’re essentially the same being.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Go easy on the Big Fellow, My peoples. He’s not one to trifle with - trust Me on that. I mean, He sent Me here knowing you people were going to kill Me at some point.
Anyway, congratulations to the Detroit Red Wings and Pittsburgh Penguins. It was a fantastic Finals and let Me opine on this fact:
The NHL has the best Finals award ceremony and tradition on any sports league anywhere ever. You work all year to win it, you skate around with it and drink out of it. You get to keep it for a year and after that it goes on to the next winner. No replicas to showcase in the lobby of the team building. The only proof of your accomplishment is a name on a silver band. That, to Me, is pretty awesome.
Special congratulaitons to Dallas Drake. Brian Propp is not jealous, by the way.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:38 am
@Cole:
Probably.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:40 am
i live 10 minutes from downtown detroit and i won’t be going to the parade. if 700,000 people show up for that (as estimated today), i will buy TBL a bentley.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:40 am
RE: Penguins
Hossa is gone. And so is Orpik and Malone. Those two will hurt more than losing Hossa, in my opinion. Losing Orpik denudes a pretty average blueline of its only overtly physical presence and the Pens don’t have any bruisers on the farm ready to step up and take over. Malone added depth to the top two lines and finally seems to get it, how to play hard every night and be a consistent player at both ends of the ice.
If I was Ray Shero, I say thank you to Hossa, have a long talk with Michel Therien about his inter-personal skills and concentrate on getting Malkin, Staal and Fleury under contract. After that, I bring back Dupuis and Hall and work on the blueline.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:43 am
RE: Detroit
It’s much easier for Detroit. They have just about everyone under contract and have some young players ready to step in and take over some roles, like Darren Helm, Jimmy Howard and Jonathan Ericsson.
And for sportsgal116, it apepars that Brad Stuart is coming back to Detroit. Good times.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:43 am
We’ve somewhat covered this before.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:45 am
If Hossa would just follow Crosby’s lead and sign for $1.8 million per year, all would be well. Ownership has hinted that they will spend up to the cap, which they damn well should with a new arena, home sell-outs, and years of Pens fans watching any player making above league minimum traded away for pennies on the dollar.
Shero will have a very busy offseason.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Jesus,
Malone is a local and would likely be more apt to stay on board (rather than chasing after a few extra bucks to play elsewhere). I like Hossa, but this team can live without him.
Also, regarding Therien’s interpersonal skills, I recall Scotty Bowman lacking a bit in that area as well. And, he was…somewhat successful.
That is all.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Does anyone ever wonder how much the guy who is the bearer of the Stanley Cup gets paid?
June 5th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Can I take you up on this? But i’ll trade the Bentley in for golf clubs. I’d like to play golf again. Haven’t played a round in … must be 10-15 years. So I need clubs. I’ll keep the purchase price under $700 (though I have zero clue what a bag of clubs goes for these days).
Speaking of wagers, I have already bought the itunes cards for that baseball bet. The D-Rays refuse to lose, so i have lost. The other two teams probably will be under .500
June 5th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Congrats to the Wings. I am not a band wagoner, but the lock out took most of my Wing fandom away. I loved them as a kid and watched every game back when we used to have blood baths with the Avs. I was even a fan back when we had Tim Chevelde (sp?) between the pipes… it was nice to get back into hockey for this play-off run. Great series, great sport.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Dammit the parade is tomorrow. Why the F couldn’t they have it on the weekend?
As for roster changes, the Wings will have very few. Most of the key players in the series are staying (Z, Dats, Draper, Flip, Franzen, Ozzie, Cleary). Not sure what happens with the defense, I don’t know if Rafalski signed a multi-year deal… It’ll be interesting to see if Stuart decides to take a little less money and sign with Detroit. Hopefully they get rid of Chelios and Samuelsson.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:51 am
@TBL
Pena just got put on the DL so those Rays may just come back to Earth without their power bat… maybe.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:53 am
at the risk of sounding gay as hell, i agree 100% with magglio. except i did not get back into hockey with this run. it still sucks. there are little spurts of quality back and forth play, but a lot of times, it’s just dump-and-chase and a bunch of turnovers in the neutral zone.
there’s a reason hockey and soccer are not popular in america. the games are almost all the same and there aren’t momentum changes like in the big 3 sports.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Sportsgal..the whole point of Championship parades is to take off work and get drunk in the street..people are busy on weekends..your parade logic is just backwards and wrong…
June 5th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Whoa, Jesus, obviously I didn’t see your comment about Stuart before I posted #29. Where did you hear Stuart’s staying? He’s only going to get better playing on a team with Lidstrom. Have I mentioned Lidstrom is a bad ass?
June 5th, 2008 at 10:54 am
@Sportsgal
Rafalski signed a 5-year deal last summer
June 5th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Congrats to the Wings and Wings fans.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Roman, there are a couple of key issues that are making it impossible for me to go to Detroit for a parade on a Friday.
1. I live in Chicago and do not own a car, which makes transportation planning difficult.
2. I have a super important work meeting that I’m running tomorrow at 8:30am Central.
3.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Congrats to the Wings. And congrats to hockey fans everywhere, this was a hell of a season.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:01 am
sportsgal, I thought you were a trust fund baby? Just take a cab to Detroit.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:02 am
before the day is out, she’ll blame the referees.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:05 am
@ Rumeal:
All I heard was blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah. Seriously you’re going to shit on hockey after this series, and season, which are easily the most exciting in 5 years. Haven’t we been through the whole “It’s not popular therefore it sucks” argument before.
If you think there aren’t momentum changes it means you didn’t even watch any of the series, let alone game 5, or 6.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:11 am
For Jimmy: The referees are the reason I can’t go to the parade. They suck!
Clown, I wish I was a trust fund baby, I sure as hell wouldn’t have this job if that was the case. And I’d probably be able to afford a parking spot in my apartment building (which would take care of problem #1).
June 5th, 2008 at 11:14 am
if you think the “momentum changes” in hockey are even remotely comparable to basketball and football, you’re insane. there is a reason they only get one timeout per game and RARELY even use it.
gary bettman and the new jersey devils ruined hockey. the sooner you can accept that, the better off you’ll be. don’t believe me? get a tape of an oilers game from the 80s and tell me it’s even close to what is played these days.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:14 am
June 5th, 2008 at 11:18 am
+1 412. How do you live without a car anyways?
June 5th, 2008 at 11:18 am
TBL…golf huh? pick it up, it’s a great addiction.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:19 am
@Rumeal: I see you have brushed up on the hockey-bashing clichés today. Next thing you know you’ll be saying how you just can’t get into hockey with all those goons they employ.
If you don’t enjoy it fine, but seriously why come to a hockey thread the day after the cup was awarded just to trash on the season and the game?
June 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am
i cant get into hockey because Don Cherry’s suit has blinded me. oh, and the season is over.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am
You leave Earl Campbell out of this!!
June 5th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Fetch, not sure if you’re familiar with Chicago, but it’s pretty easy to live in the city without a car. I live half a block from a grocery store, I take public transportation almost everywhere I go, and there are lots of cabs.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:30 am
the only things wrong with hockey are the horrible officiating (when the nbc announcers realize its bad, thats bad) and the goalie pads. i dont get why they keep making rule changes to try and increase scoring but let them wear sumo suits. look at the late eighties early nineties, it was just a dude in slightly bigger shoulder pads, and there were some awesome goalies in that era that did just fine. you wouldnt be seeing cam fucking ward winning a cup if you changed the pads.
hossa is gone, but that deal was still incredibly worth it. if malone doesnt take a hometown discount hes a dick. orpik owes nothing to this organization as hes been treated like shit.
even losing orpik and hossa, theyre still the number one place for free agents who want to win, and noone in the east can touch them
June 5th, 2008 at 11:36 am
you should get a topical cream for that, sportsgal.
/classin’ it up since 2007.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:37 am
/fixed
June 5th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Sportsgal - Fetch (and to a lesser degree myself) are in parts of the country where it’s usually “public transportation??” with a quizzical look on their face.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:37 am
@jibble…it’s a great time to bash hockey. what do you want to talk about? the season is over. the red wings won the title. congrats to them and the NHL for a slightly above average playoffs. the end.
do you think we’re gonna crash the NBA thread after game 5 of the finals and rehash what a great season it was? uh no. that’s gay as hell. we’ll leave that for stuart scott and steve levy. get a grip.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:39 am
well bettman is at the heart of those issues, kind of pointless to even waste keystokes on his jackie treehorn looking ass
June 5th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Momentum changes in the NBA? You mean at the end of one of those thrilling 85-81 games? If you’re not savvy enough to see a penalty kill or a big hit as momentum changing events in a hockey game, then you’re not a fan. Which is all fine and dandy, just say you’re not a fan rather then spouting out some ridiculous logic.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:40 am
+100 Dirty
June 5th, 2008 at 11:43 am
you think a big hit on one guy can suddenly cause someone’s offense to gain steam? that’s outrageous thinking.
momentum can change in the middle of a game dirty. it doesn’t have to occur at the end of an 85-81 game. and who are you to complain about scoring when the NHL does everything in their power each offseason to increase scoring? and it still doesn’t work. you hockey defendants crack me up. have fun when the finals are on CMT next year.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Despite the disappointing outcome, it was a great playoff season. Not to bash the NBA, but I don’t ever see that league’s post-season can’t touch the NHL’s.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:44 am
not to bash a lemieux fan, but i don’t see how someone could form a worse sentence than that one.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:44 am
?
June 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Thanks for taking note of my brain fart, Rumeal.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am
theo fleury?
June 5th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Not to bash the NBA, but I don’t ever see that league’s post-season
can’ttouch the NHL’s for overall competitiveness and drama.Slightly better.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:48 am
brooks orpik’s shift in game three without a doubt changed the momentum of the game. you know how i know that? the penguins players said it lifted them.
also, while i enjoy the nba, the final minute of a game taking ten minutes is the antithesis of drama
June 5th, 2008 at 11:53 am
God… Jesus… did I ever mention that the “X” in xv43 is short for Xenu?
June 5th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Actually If I don’t like the NBA (which I don’t) I will just ignore the thread and comments, like I have been doing all season, because going in and bashing it and saying the NBA was so much better in the good ol days will make me sound like that guy that walks out of a good concert and whines how the band was so much better when they came out and they suck now. I hate that guy who trys to sound like a snobby music Aficionado but actually comes across as that douchey wanna-be critic who confuses “contrarian” with “expert”.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:58 am
My advice - don’t feed the trolls.
Everyone should have to take an introductory course on Usenet - that’ll sharpen those commenting skills.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:58 am
@xv43 - noted and good luck with that.
June 5th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Couldn’t agree with you more. I love college basketball, but the constant fouling and time outs at the end of the game is ridiculous. Take the last two minutes of the hockey game last night - you had a power play for the Pens, and an empty net. There were lots of shots and tons of drama. I guarantee more people were holding their breath watching that ending then they would be at any basketball or football game.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
@sportsgal116:
See
this articlefor the story.It’s not a 100% and if Stuart were smart, he’d head for free agency and cash in - Brian Campbell by all accounts is not leaving SJ and there are precious few two-way defenseman on the FA market this off-season. However, if he wants to stay in Detroit, so much the better.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Good series, Detroit killing the 5-3’s was a momentum shift. Both teams acknowledge it.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Why would Stuart be smart for heading to free agency? Just because he can earn a bigger pay check? If you’re a true competitor a million dollar paycheck isn’t going to make you feel any better when you’re playing on a shit team that can’t even make it to the playoffs (Kinds, Maple Leafs, etc).
June 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
bingo
which is why if malone goes to the wild, im burning down his fucking house
June 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Here is a list of Detroit free agents (Group III is unrestricted, Group[ II is restricted):
BERKHOEL, ADAM, (III)
CHELIOS, CHRIS, (III)
CORAZZINI, CARL, (III)
CULLEN, MARK, (III)
DOWNEY, AARON, (III)
DRAKE, DALLAS, (III)
FERENCE, BRAD, (III)
HARTIGAN, MARK, (III)
HASEK, DOMINIK, (III)
LILJA, ANDREAS, (III)
MCCARTY, DARREN, (III)
STAFFORD, GARRETT, (III)
STUART, BRAD, (III)
Aside from Stuart, the only other player that might be re-signed is Aaron Downey.
ERICSSON, JONATHAN, (II)
FILPPULA, VALTTERI, (II)
GRIGORENKO, IGOR, (II)
HOWARD, JIMMY, (II)
KOOPMANS, LOGAN, (II)
LEMIEUX, FRANCIS, (II)
OULAHEN, RYAN, (II)
QUINCEY, KYLE, (II)
Igor Gregorenko is done as a Red Wing prospect. He may not even be tendered.
And now for Pittsburgh (Group VI is unrestricted):
BEECH, KRIS, (III)
CONKLIN, TY, (III)
DUPUIS, PASCAL, (III)
EATON, MARK, (III)
GOVE, DAVID, (III)
HALL, ADAM, (III)
HOSSA, MARIAN, (III)
LARAQUE, GEORGES, (III)
MALONE, RYAN, (III)
ORPIK, BROOKS, (III)
ROBERTS, GARY, (III)
RUUTU, JARKKO, (III)
TAFFE, JEFF, (III)
Dupuis, Hall and Ruutu are valuable role-players that should be resigned. Malone and Orpik are also players that could be resigned. Laraque is still the top heavy weight in the NHL, but he is so limited at this point in his career that I don’t see the necessity in spending much on a 5 minute a game player. The Penguins may decide give Mark Eaton a one-year make good deal after all of his injuries, but it would be for near the minimum.
ENGELLAND, DERYK, (VI)
JAMES, CONNOR, (VI)
LANNON, RYAN, (VI)
SMITH, NATHAN, (VI)
The Pens can take or leave all of these players.
ARDELAN, MARK, (II)
BISSONNETTE, PAUL, (II)
BRENT, TIM, (II)
EHELECHNER, PATRICK, (II)
FERNHOLM, DANIEL, (II)
FILEWICH, JONATHAN, (II)
FLEURY, MARC-ANDRE, (II)
STONE, RYAN, (II)
Fleury is the big deal in this list. Stone and Filewich may have an outside shot at steady work next season in the NHL.
Credit for the free agent listings goes to Cory Brolund’s site.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
@The412 - there is a little bit of a differnce between Michel Therien and Scott Bowman. Therien is not Shero’s guy and when the Post-Gazette reports that your big boss (Mario Lemieux) didn’t think that highly of your performance in the playoffs, there may be trouble ahead.
Crosby doesn’t seem like a coach killer and given all I know about Sidney, he seems like a Therien supporter. However, Therien needs to realize that he is on thin ice even after this season for a lot of reasons. If Ty Conklin and Geno Malkin don’t carry this team from December to February, the Pens might not been in a position to make the Hossa deal and make it to the Finals.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
smith, james, and taffe were all big parts of keeping the team afloat when they got hit with injuries, theyve all earned their spots
eaton is sheros guy but i think he is done
laraque cannot skate and ruutu is just as good if not better of an instigator and can fight just fine, plus he can score the occasional sweet goal
filewich had a bad season for wbs and showed nothing in camp, he was a flash in the pan. expect a serious look at caputi and goligoski in camp this year
June 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
see: sitting hossa for the bench penalty in game four. what the fuck
yeo should probably get fired on all the too many men penalties alone
hockey jobs arent guaranteed unless you win the cup and even then its rocky, there were a lot of times this year it was clear they were winning in spite of turtle. i like the guy, but he makes some stupid ass decisions
June 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
RE: Staurt and Malone
The NHLPA pushes all its members to make every last dime they can. Agents do the same. Detroit and Pittsburgh have only so much money to spend. Would Malone come back to Pittsburgh for 3.5 mil a season? Not likely. Would the Pens pay over 5 mil a season for Malone? Not likely.
Every situation is unique, but if the players want a max contract, it behooves them to head to free agency. That’s My only point. If they want to take less and stay where they are, great. But teams like Chicago and the Rangers, for example, have room under the salary cap and want to spend money.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
@molemaninthemorning:
With all due respect to Nathan Smith, Jeff Taffe and Connor James, they’ll be lucky to get one-way deals from anyone in the NHL. If those players make the Pens, fine - they’ll fit in as fourth line grinders and extra bodies. But a team depending on those types of players to continue to compete is in for a rude awakening.
Those three would be a severe let down compared to Adam Hall, Pascal Dupuis and Jarko Ruutu in terms of what they can provide to the team.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I guess I always just assumed that if Jesus were reading a Pittsburgh paper it would be the Trib.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Well, Cleary would have made more money if he would have gone to free agency instead of signing an extension with the Wings mid-season. Hell, there are a few guys on the Wings who could have made more as a free agent but wanted to sign with a team that wins and takes care of their players. If Stuart wants to take more money somewhere else, that’s fine, I’m just saying don’t rule out a competitor taking less to stay with a great team.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
oh i meant keep them on as wilkes barre players, they shouldnt be on the pens roster. except maybe taffe, could be a solid fourth line winger.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Everyone has Hossa pegged as a goner, but I think he’s the most likely of the big 3 UFA’s to stay. Ownership will want that deal to get done since they took such a risk in trading away Army/Christensen/Esposito/2008 1st rounder for Hossa.
Obviously Fleury is the top priority this offseason, but it’s possible that Hossa and Orpik could return. Maybe not probable, especially after looking at the deals that Drury, Gomez, Briere, and Scott Hannan got last year, but it’s possible. I think Malone is gone and the most replaceable of the free agents.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
As I mentioned on my own blog last week (/shameless plug), I think the Pens have to look to the future in FA more than any other team. They have some very key players coming up for FA in the next 2 years. sure they could sign Hossa to $7M/year this season, but they have to be careful that doesn’t affect Malkin’s contract extension, since he’s still under his rookie contract next season.
June 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Western Conference >>> Eastern Conference
June 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
@Dirty Sanchez:
Hossa, and probably more correctly his agent, will be fielding offers for close to 7-8 mil. The Pens, according to nhlnumbers.com, have about 31 million committed to players under contract next year, or players likely to make the NHL team. Add in roughly 3.2 mil for Fleury and they Pens look okay at 35 mil for the 08-09 season. If they choose to spend to the cap, they can re-sign everyone and worry about it later - 5 mil for Orpik, 5 mil for Malone and 7 mil for Hossa. If the Pens do that, they would not leave themselves much salary cap room for other players (like Dupuis, Hall or Ruutu).
It gets tricky after that. Sykora and Sydor are the only significant UFA leaving after next season - that’ll free up 5.250 mil. The Pens would have roughly just that much to spend on re-signing Staal and Malkin (along with some depth guys like Talbot and Scuderi).
My opinion - say good-bye to Hossa, resign Malone and Orpik.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
As far as Detroit - they need to resign Zetterberg, but otherwise, the Detroit cap situation is remarkable. They can afford Zetterberg at 6 mil now and still have some wiggle room. Top-notch organization.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Don’t the Pens have to pay Fleury too? Isn’t he a restricted free agent? Thought I saw that somewhere. Whats to stop a team from throwing a ton of money at him and making the Pens match? With Staal and Malkin up after the end of next year I’m really not seeing how the Pens can afford Hossa.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
rs27 - I think that under restricted free agency, to sign a player at Fleury’s salary level would require a team to give up two first round choices. At least, that’s how it was under the old CBA.
Nevertheless, I would expect Fleury to be #1 on Ray Shero’s priority list.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
@the412: That sounds about right, however Fleury isn’t going to (and shouldn’t) accept anything lower than $4M/per season. I’m not even a big Felury fan, but with the really crappy UFA goalie market (Theodore, Huet, and that’s it), being a #1 pick, and reaching the Cup finals he will get at least that much from the Pens.
June 5th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Don’t forget about Hasek!!
June 5th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
RE: Fleury
The Pens probably prefer a contract similar to Cam Wards (2.7 mil a season) instead of Henrik Lundqvist (4.25 mil a season). Settling in the middle seems reasonable - that would double Fleury’s salary to around 3.5 and provide something of a hometown discount.
And to retort sportsgal, not every “competitor” leaves money on the table. Dan Cleary took a deal he probably would not have gotten on the free agency market. Detroit took a chance on him after his medical issues forced him from Edmonton, so maybe he felt some loyalty.
Fleury should get the best contract - period. He is something of a target for an offer sheet, but aside from Tampa and LA, most teams are set in goal or couldn’t afford to risk an outrageous offer sheet.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
@Jesus - not true, Dan Cleary would have made more on the open market. I read a bunch of articles all over the place saying the same thing. I’m not saying EVERY competitor leaves money on the table, I’m saying there are guys out there willing to take less if it allows him to be on a team that has a great chance of making the playoffs (and winning a Cup).