Curt Schilling on Kobe: He’s No Leader
Baseball, Blogging, NBA June 10th. 2008, 9:00am
Brace yourself for some candor, Curt Schilling-style: The injured Red Sox pitcher was gifted some “ridiculously good” courtside tickets for game two of the NBA Finals, and decided to blog his observations on the sport. Schilling’s comments about Kobe Bryant are sure to roil Angelenos and spark a day full of bickering on ESPN. Interestingly, Schilling’s observations reinforce some things Ray Allen said about Kobe four years ago:
From the first tip until about 4 minutes left in the game I saw and heard this guy bitch at his teammates. Every TO he came to the bench pissed, and a few of them he went to other guys and yelled about something they weren’t doing, or something they did wrong. No dialog about “hey let’s go, let’s get after it†or whatever. He spent the better part of 3.5 quarters pissed off and ranting at the non-execution or lack of, of his team … I thought it was a fascinating bit of insight for me to watch someone in another sport who is in the position of a team leader and how he interacted with his team and teammates. Watching the other 11 guys, every time out it was high fives and “Hey nice work, let’s get after it†or something to that affect. He walked off the floor, obligatory skin contact on the high five, and sat on the bench stone faced or pissed off, the whole game … He’d yell at someone, make a point, or send a message, turn and walk away, and more than once the person on the other end would roll eyes or give a ‘whatever dude’ look.
Kobe bitching at his teammates is nothing new, but here’s what we’re interested in: Why didn’t any sportswriters note this? Assuming at least a handful of them are still seated courtside – although in recent years, teams have jettisoned many of them to make room for high-rollers who are willing to shell out big bucks to have James Posey fall into their popcorn – surely some of them had to hear this. We can’t seem to find any mainstream outlet that has written about this in the last 36 hours. And it’s sort of difficult not to notice a teammate rolling his eyes at the team’s best player, right?
This leads us to believe Schilling is exaggerating, or perhaps sportswriters fear getting iced by Kobe. With two weeks left in the season, that seems unlikely. Either way, this is sure to reignite the Boston-Los Angeles rivalry.
Manny, JD, Papi, Lester and the NBA Finals. (38 Pitches)
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June 10th, 2008 at 9:03 am
I don’t have any specific links to back up this statement, but I feel like Simmons has mentioned similar things about Kobe. I don’t know if it was the Finals preview or just some random column.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Will the Dodgers/
Angelsthrow at Schilling if he has to swing a bat in interleague play or the postseason?June 10th, 2008 at 9:05 am
As a Yankee fan and a hater of all things asshole, I don’t think it’s possible for me to loath anyone more in all of sports than Curt Schilling. Always has to open his fat mouth with some diatribe of bullshit. I’m convinced even his own teammates can’t stand him. Plus, no doubt it was ketchup on that damn sock. Tho Pierce’s wheelchair theatrics almost top that bullshit.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Fakey McKetchupsock exaggerating? No way!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:07 am
I’m pretty confident that the Angels won’t be throwing at Schilling.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Plus, I’m sure it’s in the Finals that Kobe’s tough love, something Jordan was reknown for, and in practice no less, is suddenly gonna effect the Lakers now, even tho you’ve heard nothing negative about it all season, until blowhard Schilling gives his opinion. Please shutup!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:10 am
How could the Angels throw at Schilling in interleague play?
Kobe’s been “me-first” from day one – remember his 1st all-star game waving off help from Malone?
June 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
pretty easy to knock the opposing teams best player. You will always find favor with the fans when you do that. especially when you don’t have support from team management. good PR move by Schilling, the freakin prick.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Simmons alluded to the same sentiments in his Finals preview where he took out excerpts from the Zen Master’s book a few years ago. Based on those quotes, this doesn’t surprise me at all. Not to mention I saw it myself every time the camera was on Kobe.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:13 am
this was a joke, right?
June 10th, 2008 at 9:13 am
exhibit #4,623 why this championship series is the worst in modern sports history
1. the unbearable TWENTY old “rivalry” being shoved down our throats
17. the bill russell/kevin garnett bullshit
59. the paul pierce wheelchair incident
63. eddie house’s kid being on the floor more than chris mihm
290. the officiating
481. celebrities in the crowd = tedy bruschi, curt schilling, david ortiz. get fucked. at least detroit had kid rock, who fucks more A-list celebrities than bruschi can even spell.
should i keep going? i can’t even effectively document my anger at this series. i hope both teams get rabies tonight and the series is cancelled.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:13 am
yes, i’ll amend, i should have put Giants, but obviously they have no shot at the WS
June 10th, 2008 at 9:14 am
If you watched the game, you probably saw the same things Schilling was talking about. Unfortunately, not many people here watched the game but still give opinions nonetheless.
/waiting to be booted from this site
June 10th, 2008 at 9:16 am
Kobe has been the leader of the best team in the NBA all year. The MVP award he won proved that to most of us.
Now some has been pitcher from Beantown wants to talk some shit about Kobe?
June 10th, 2008 at 9:16 am
I could care less about Curt Schilling, I saw Kobe looking pissed during the game but to be honest everybody in Laker uniform was looking pissed during game 2.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Griffey hit 600 yesterday. No story yet?
June 10th, 2008 at 9:20 am
If you watched the game, you probably saw the same things Schilling was talking about. Unfortunately, not many people here watched the game but still give opinions nonetheless.
If a guy doesn’t get in his players face like that, he gets torn apart (say like Eli). As soon as he does, and the team is losing in a game, he is suddenly a bad leader. If the Lakers win that game, we are talking about how Kobe ignited his teammates to a stirring comeback.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:21 am
He was on the court still playing hard making passes to his teammates and trying to win the game so fuck Schilling. If he was pissed he didn’t go into Kobe one man show mode which is what I know many people have been waiting on him to do.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:21 am
@outofbounds- Yardwork for baseball
June 10th, 2008 at 9:22 am
@rumeal-you forgot to mention Bob Segar, Mr. Rock and Roll himself.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:22 am
I tell you what, those games that were played 25 years ago have made this series extra-fascinating.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Well I know that, I just figured it would have been the first post of the day.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:24 am
@ sparty
Not defending/supporting Kobe or Schilling in what I’m saying, but my point is people who all of the sudden who come out and rip either person (Schilling or Kobe) don’t get the point.
Schilling made an observation, and by reading the entire post you’ll see that he’s not pinning it all on Kobe. I do agree with your “damed if does or doesn’t logic”, but to automatically say Schilling’s trying to stir things up is ridiculous. If he did this about another baseball player, then yes. My point is his post is just an observation, nothing more nothing less.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:28 am
America on Curt Shilling: STFU!
June 10th, 2008 at 9:30 am
At least Schilling didn’t need Shaq to win his rings.
Z > Schilling > Kobe
June 10th, 2008 at 9:31 am
I don’t think Schilling’s trying to stir things up – he’s just a natural asshatted windbag.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:32 am
@ clown
Fair enough
June 10th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Douchebags > Schilling
June 10th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Not a NBA fan and definately I’m against most things LA, but I really hope the Lakers go and win four straight. Boston is like Hillary Clinton. Their sense of entitlement is sickening.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Doesn’t this happen all the time in the NBA and every other level of basketball? I’m sure KG is always the nicest guy in the huddle. He never yelled at his teammates during any of those games in Minn…
At least Kobe does it to their face and not in a blog on the internet.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:42 am
Curt Schilling did not ask Rick Rickert for his thoughts on KG and thats a shame.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Who’s that hot blonde with Schilling in the picture?
June 10th, 2008 at 9:52 am
+1 for jack. that was great.
excellent point by sparty re: the fine line between getting on your teammates and looking content with a loss. schilling has to keep his name in the news since he’s not doing it with his bloody sock or playing robin to the big unit’s batman. i suggest he moves to chicago where he can float wade-to-the-bulls rumors and sing take me out to the ballgame whenever he’s not starting.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:09 am
I can’t wait to hear Kobe (a basketball player) give his insights on Curt Schilling’s (a baseball player) next outing. NOT.
Oh and when will Schilling have a next outing? Who knows because his fat ass is injured.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:23 am
I’d like to beat Schilling to a pulp for disgracing the jersey of Larry Bird.
June 10th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Schilling: Total Fucking Asshole.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Schilling’s girlfriend is hot in that picture.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Enough about Schilling…….
did everyone see who the refs are going to be tonight?!!?
Simmons can collect on his bet: Salvatore is the one. Along with Joey Crawford. Stern doesn’t give a fuck anymore!
June 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
38 Pitches: Stubbornly Uncorrupted and Unbeholden
June 10th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
TBL – Where does Schilling say that Kobe isn’t a leader? That isn’t what he said.
June 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Jordan punched future G.M.S, heat butted other teammates and was always screaming at Pippen ‘ Pass Me The Dam Ball!”. This is a non story. Schilling needs Attention so he needs to stir something up
June 10th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
why didn’t costas get schilling to go on the show with leitch and buzz?
June 10th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Come on…anyone that didn’t see this coming hasn’t paid attention to Kobe’s career. The guy is a douchebag and will always be one. No amount of kool-aid drinking media members voting him mvp or writing puff pieces will change that. And while I’m a Sox fan, the fact that blowhard Curt Schilling wrote this about Kobe doesn’t diminish its veracity. Hey, it takes a douche to know a douche…Curt meet Kobe…Kobe, Curt…
June 11th, 2008 at 12:00 am
RABID, So MJ wasn’t a “douchebag” when he was getting his coach fired and punching teammates in the face in practice. Gotta love revisionist history!
June 11th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Grundgedave, there was nowhere near the disparity that there was in Game 2. Kobe got fouled on almost every possession. He should have shot 30 free throws. They still have some more making up to do.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:50 am
What really surprised me during Game 3 was watching Kobe at the line. No, not when he missed free throws, but when he slapped or kicked away the ball after he failed to get a basket. My 3 year old doesn’t get away with such sulky, spoiled behavior. It’s a stupid little thing, I know — but I’ve never seen another NBA player do it. Usually, the players are considerate with the ball, handing it off to the ref, etc. This behavior just seemed stupid and immature and spoiled. Weird. And no one mentioned it. Is he always like this?
June 11th, 2008 at 11:58 am
There’s a big difference between Kobe and MJ. The difference is Kobe throws his teammates, the organization and the fans under the bus every chance he gets, whines like a bitch, is selfish, and still detests the team game. That’s for starters.
Did you read the transcript of when Kobe was being interrogated in Colorado? Ask Shaq if he was happy about hearing Kobe mention his name regarding rape/sexual assault allegations to the cops. Ask Andrew Bynum if he was happy watching Kobe s**t on him to the “Kobe Video guys”, ask the other players how they felt when Kobe kept saying “I need some help, I can’t do it alone”…because except for the Kwame/Gasol trade and Fisher, this is essentially the same team he had last year; remember when he was trying to get Mitch Kupchak fired and have Jerry West come back? What about when Kobe accused Karl Malone of hitting on his wife — have you EVER heard of a professional sports athlete going public with that s**t? That kind of stuff is handled INSIDE the locker room. How about when Kobe was whining about wanting to be traded all summer long? How did the true LA Laker fans feel when he wanted to abandon them after they’ve stuck by him? How many times have you seen Kobe get slapped up (Chris Childs, Reggie Miller, Raja Bell) and not seen anyone really come to his defense? I’ve never seen anyone ready to fight for that guy. This is the same guy who admitted to cheating on his wife — repeatedly. This is the same guy who pushed Shaq out of LA (I’m not a Shaq fan). Have you heard about him and his agent trying to drum up positive press during his rape case by alerting media and writers to his charity activities with sick kids?
Kobe Bryant is a hell of a ball player, but as a person he’s garbage. People want to like him because he’s so good on the court and so skilled. He’s amazing to watch. I get it. But the guy is as fake as they come and if I can count so many blatant acts of disloyalty through the media, imagine what kind of guy he is in real life? He slams the ball and pouts when he’s angry. He treats his teammates like garbage.
Say what you want about Jordan, but he was a man and he was loyal to Chicago, to his teammates and to his fans. Yeah, he might have been behind his coach getting fired…so was Magic. He punched out a teammate or teammates…who hasn’t got into it with teammates.
The difference is MJ was a man, and Kobe is a snake.
June 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
MJ cheated on his wife as well Rabid. Well known case where MJ settled out of court. But you dont like Kobe, i get it