NBA Draft: No. 11 Indiana Pacers
NBA June 12th. 2008, 4:32pm
Each weekday for the next two weeks, we’ll be counting down the NBA Draft lottery teams leading up to the June 26th draft. It would be a fool’s errand to project what each team will do; tryouts vary by day and if anything, that’s an exercise in futility we’ll post at 5 p.m. on draft day. Instead, what you’ll be reading is what we would do if we were running each team.
As one of those annoyingly passionate Lakers fans in the 80s, we never thought we’d type this: Poor Larry Bird. The Pacers President of Basketball Operations is dealing with the unholy trinity in Indy: Horrendous contracts (Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy), off-the-court issues (Tinsley, Daniels, Shawnee Williams), and injuries (Jermaine O’Neal). It’s a mess, and there’s no end in sight. The lone bright spot? Danny Granger, who is morphing into a nice wing player.
Perhaps we’re too practical and overly cautious, but we like to size teams up based on what they’ve got, and what they need. If you want to assume O’Neal is healthy and poised to finally play more than 70 games for the first time in four years, then pencil him in at center. Troy Murphy and his $9 million can play PF. Granger’s a nice No. 3, and Mike Dunleavy and his $8 million are your shooting guard. No Jumper Tinsley is runnin’ point.
When healthy, this isn’t an awful starting lineup; the bench is thin and young, but still, contending for a playoff berth in the East with this group isn’t unfathomable.
It is widely believed that the Pacers will draft a point guard – everyone seems fed up with gun-toting Tinsley; odd that few mention his burdensome contract – and it appears as if the top two choices are Russell Westbrook (UCLA) and DJ Augustin (Texas). ESPN’s Chad Ford has Indy grabbing Westbrook, the combo guard who went from sub to stud by season’s end. He actually reminds us a bit of Gilbert Arenas – you can see that he’s teeming with talent, but he was on a loaded team, and thus only got to display flashes of it. We think Westbrook goes higher, and won’t be on the board here.
And while we love Augustin as a college player, we just don’t know that if he’s lottery material (we’re probably the only ones). We see a lot of Jameer Nelson, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. While Augustin seems more skilled at attacking the basket than Nelson, and has more confidence in his jumper, we still recall the Texas PG turning to mush in the NCAA tournament against Derrick Rose, who was only a freshman.
Something to consider: The Pacers have had six first-round picks since 1999. With the exception of Granger, they have all been busts (though we’ll give Shawnee Williams the benefit of the doubt since he’s only had two seasons). There’s some pressure on this pick, because the Pacers are going to have trouble moving Murphy and Dunleavy, O’Neal’s career appears to be on the way down, and as much as they’d like to move Tinsley, everyone knows it, so they might not get fair value. Larry Legend needs a non-trouble maker who can become a factor from the preseason.
We’re going with a player we love, even though everyone’s down on him: Georgetown center Roy Hibbert. The Pacers won’t draft him – no, that’d be silly, he plays stout defense, he’s NBA-ready in the body and experience department, and in a slow-down game, he can efficient at the offensive end. We think the only way the Pacers deal Tinsley is in a deal that involves Jermaine O’Neal, and our guess is that’s what happens.
So Hibbert’s our guy. Just don’t bring up the Davidson debacle. Please.
11. Indiana – Roy Hibbert, Georgetown
12. Sacramento – JaVale McGee, Nevada
13. Portland – Joe Alexander, West Virginia
14. Golden State – Darrell Arthur, Kansas
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June 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
TBL, enough. Roy Hibbert is not NBA lottery material
WNBA lottery, yes. NBA, no
June 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
TBL would’ve totally drafted Bowie over Jordan.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
solid pick.. won’t be a superstar but at no.11, not bad
June 12th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
+1 to irish.. good stuff
June 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Roy Hibbert will be the next Shawn Bradley.
I.E. there will be YouTube videos devoted solely to him getting dunked on.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
DJ Augustine from Texas. They need a PG and some people think DJ is the best pg in the country(clown). yeah he is small, but he has quickness and is a very solid shooter. I would like to compare him to my boy Jameer Nelson.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
i dont think augstine will be there at 11, you think so irish?
June 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
TBL what is your obsession with Hibbert?
Yay Aaron Heilman, by the way.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Augustin will be their pick and should be, IMO; D-Rose may have killed him, but D-Rose killed almost every PG he faced last year.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
@cortes- he will be lucky to get picked at that spot in my opinion.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
I can picture Hibbert getting drafted and then not sucking and then every day TBL will have a post making up some scenario where HIbbert will actually be good.
Kinda like how he kept making up reasons Brady Quinn was going to start last year.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
With a little luck, the Pacers can pick up this year’s version of David Harrison.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
dammit and then sucking is what I meant.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Poor Larry Bird?
Are you kidding me? The guy is THE reason for the Pacers’ debauchery the past four seasons. He took a 61-win team in 2004 to 35 this past season. He’s the doofus signing these guys, trading that guy, blowing or trading that draft pick (Al Harrington to Hawks, back to Indy, to Warriors anyone?), and generally mismanaging this franchise.
Larry Bird is terrible. With Donnie Walsh darting for New York, it only allows Bird more access to screwing up the Pacers.
The starting lineup is terrible. Omitting Jermaine O’Neal, there’s maybe, MAYBE, one guy in that starting group that could start on any other team in the Eastern Conference. That guy is Danny Granger. And even he’s terribly inconsistent.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
@NDub, so what was Donnie Walsh doing the past few years? Collecting a free paycheck?
Also, this team would still be in the playoffs on the regular if it wasn’t for O’Neil being constantly hurt the past few years.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
LA Lakers 94
Boston 88
LA evens it up at 2-2
June 12th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
irish,
kobe goes 20-20 from the line tonight?
June 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Tough game to call tonight, Lamar and Pau need to show up for the Lakers.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
lamar showing up, i understand. pau showing up, i get. lamar AND pau? that’s asking a bit too much, cbh
June 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
to be fair dunleavy did average 19 a game this year
if he is a horrendous contract then marquis daniels’ contract is a harbinger of the apocalypse
June 12th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Lamar and Pau need to grow a pair and quit getting bossed around by Perkins/Powe/whomever the Celts roll out there… Kobe’s going to need to go 30/30 from the foul line if they don’t.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Lamar, make a freakin lay up!
Kobe gets 40
Lakers 92
Celtics 83
June 12th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
i agree august. lamar odom seems to have a permanent deer in the headlights look, while pau is, well, pau. its no wonder Schill thinks Kobe isn’t a good teammate.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
TBL would take Darko over Melo.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Pau shits the bed, KG has a monster game
Celtics 96, Lakers 91
June 12th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Off topic, but if there was any ever doubt about who the best writer at the .com is, let there be no more:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=schreiber_leanne&id=3438752
June 12th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
off topic, but Jonathan Ogden.. best OT ever?
June 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Mike
being that she is the ombudsman, it takes away from her being the best writer IMO.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
alowaish,
anthony munoz is on the phone.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
gary zimmerman
June 12th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
August West –
Not totally free. But it was said when Bird was hired that Walsh was just keeping the seat warm until Larry was “ready.” Walsh was hands-off after Larry arrived, only standing in the background. He should have done more, but didn’t. Remember that Walsh is the one who built the Reggie Miller Pacers.
And as far as O’Neal goes, the team should have traded him. He was asking for it. They didn’t do it. He threatended to opt out. Remember the talk of him to the Lakers to help Kobe? Bird didn’t pull the trigger. O’Neal’s been seriously dinged the past two seasons, not the past four. That’s Larry’s fault for not moving the 19-million-dollar/season man.
Bird is the guy who traded away Harrington to the Hawks for Jackson. Then traded the No. 13 pick to the Hawks for Harrington. Then moved Harrington and Jackson two months later for a power forward (Murphy) who won’t get on the block, a slow shooting guard who should play small forward but isn’t strong enough (Dunleavy) and bust Ike Diagu.
Bird also drafted David Harrison and Shawne Williams and signed Marquis Daniels. All have had significant off-the-court problems ranging from drugs to guns to associating with murderers and rapists.
He gave Sarunas Jasikevicius a three-year, $12 million contract in 2005. Jasikevicius is no longer in the NBA. He gave 2006 second-round pick James White a guaranteed two-year contract. White is also out of the NBA.
Larry Bird sucks as a front office guy.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
i’m not gonna lie, i am a novice when it comes to the NFL. just asking, not starting a debate.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Damn Jaskikevicus is out of the league? He was the best bench cheerleader I had ever seen.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Maybe not the best, but 1st ballot HOFer for sure.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Mike: not disputing his HOF status; it’s just that since I’ve been watching the NFL (98), it began and end with Ogden as OT.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
which is why i asked if he was GOAT
June 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
@ NDub: that sounds about right… I don’t follow the Pacers much and wasn’t sure who was making most of the questionable decisions. Sounds like Bird could be giving Jordan competition soon for best star/worst front office guy
June 12th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
August West –
I’m not a fan, either. I just heavily researched the topic because my boss tasked me to write a story on the Pacers after the season. Sorry if I sounded like a know-it-all.
June 13th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
NDub is totally right. Bird sucks in the front office. Celtics are very happy he’s ruining the P’s and not the C’s.