Euro 2008: Turkey’s Got No Shot. Right?
Soccer June 25th. 2008, 3:03pm
Three games left in Euro 2008, and the semifinals begin today: the tall, staid Germans face spirited yet undermanned Turkey. Industrious Tyler Duffy of The Odds and Sods has your preview after the jump. If you plan on recording the game and watching it after work, kindly avoid the comments section, because we’ll be discussing the action as it unfolds. In our haste, we’ll probably misspell a few things and even bungle names, but feel free to call us on it! Worthless prediction: Germany 3, Turkey 1. This is one of Germany’s heroes, Michael Ballack, with his girl.
It took quite a bit of Anatolian legerdemain to get the Turks to this semi-final, with consecutive last-ditch comebacks against the Czech Republic and Croatia. When they face off today against the mighty Krauts, they will need more than a few white rabbits to bubble out from under Fatih Therim’s fez.
The Turkish coach has a scarcity of options, with the squad as decimated as the Grand Armee at the Berezina. He could have as few as thirteen out of 23 players available for this contest, with up to nine of his normal first-choice players gone due to injury or suspension. The situation is so dire that Therim has even discussed using third-choice goalkeeper Tolgan Zengin as a reserve striker.
The Germans, in contrast, will be at the height of their Teutonic fitness. Only Torsten Frings may miss the match with a cracked rib, and, judging by their performance against Portugal, they might be better off without him. The Germans also have some slight advantages, fielding a better player at every position, being better drilled tactically and having infinitely more experience.
On paper, the Germans should be doing cartwheels down the sidelines in a spastic fit of Leitchian bombast. However, history should deal them a dose of caution. Turkey has two wins and a draw in the last three meetings between the two countries, last losing in a 1-0 friendly in 1992.
Basically, this matchup resembles a #13 seed in the NCAA Tournament that just knocked off the #4 and the #5 and now looks across at #1, if that #13 seed has only six players and is missing four starters.
The Turks got a plague and locusts in the last two matches, but for them to emerge today, they need a parting of the Red Sea.
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June 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Sorry a bit late with this … but we’re 15 mins in and Turkey has dominated. Turkey hit the crossbar and the Germany goalie has about three saves.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
no, sure (although it seems she would smell of burnt skin)
June 25th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Ballack!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
holy shit!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
TURKEY 1-0!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Turkey shot hit the crossbar, and bounced back into play, and a player looked to put it through the keeper’s legs
22nd min
June 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
This is unreal.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Lehman was overdue for a flub.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
the turkey player actually mis-hit the shot – it wasn’t hard at all – but hte keeper could not corral it
#16 for Turkey with the score
vitale: shock city baby!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Update for those of us stuck with a computer that acts up???
June 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
On a side note, I don’t know why everyone was so down on Portugal and Italy. The Germans whine, dive and bitch with the best of them.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
turkey is totally the new davidson
June 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Lehman was overdue for a flub.
Truer words were never spoken. Arsenal fans know all about that.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
The HD closeup on Schweinsteiger’s ass cheek was unnecessary.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
TBL,
Kazim Kazim = Stephen Curry?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
GOAL GERMANY!
1-1
June 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I am an Arsenal fan. I know too well.
I think that, in his pomp, he was a great pure shotstopper. But, anything that involved positioning or thought was always an adventure.
Pig Mounter!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
damn, that was a quick response.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
awesome goal
guy centered it to Schweinsteiger, who used the outside of his foot to beat the goalie
20 with the assist
June 25th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
I guess Germany is Kansas then?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
good god no. curry had one of the best shots in the country and kazim has the worst touch of any offensive player in this tournament
June 25th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
28th minute, we’re knotted at 1 … and mr. momentum swings
June 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Podolski has just been all over the place in these Euros
June 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Pig Mounter is slowly overtaking David Villa as the player of this tournament.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
For anyone keeping score on Schweinsteiger, that’s one goal, two dives, one frosty white ass cheek.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
He turns into superman when he puts on a German shirt.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
wow, long shot by Turkey that was punched away at the last min by the German keeper
looked scary
June 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Almost another fuck-up by Lehman
June 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Lehman almost boned another one. He got lucky. It should be 2-1 Turks right now.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
He was exactly what that midfield needed. Ballack and Frings basically play the same type of game (like Gerrard and Lamps) which is why the injury to Frings might be the thing that puts Germany over the top.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
I’m sensing a trademark yellow for dissent from Lehman coming. When you watched him at Arsenal you just have a sense when “Crazy Jens” is going to make an appearance.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Podoloski had a breakaway at a tough angle … shot it far too high
June 25th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
whose the backup for germany? at least arsenal has almunia to offset that.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
ESPN Soccernet sucks my butt. It has crashed my browser twice. I’m scared to go back. Is it still Nil-Nil, as they say in Europa?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
The HD closeup on Schweinsteiger’s ass cheek was unnecessary.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
is it just me or is klose trying too hard to score? he’s forced a couple already.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
1-1… Turks in the 22nd. Krauts in the 26th
June 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
1-1 sean jean
June 25th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
1-1 SJ
June 25th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
It most certainly was NOT unnecessary! How dare you!
When did TBL turn into Kickette?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Did I just see attractive blonde Turkish women? Impressive.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Thanks kids. Already sounds more exciting than the Spain/Italy match.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Podolski and Schweinsteiger rule. You’re seeing the future of German soccer in front of your very eyes.
Bayern will be a bitch for the long haul if they can hold on to these two.
I’ll continue to sit here and root for my Bavarian brothers. (OK, so Podolski is Polish, tough break, I meant they play for Bayern).
June 25th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
If you want blood, you got it. That looks like it hurt.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
I always felt Lehman got a bad wrap. I think he was, and still is, a far better keeper than Almunia. He always made me nervous wandering away from the six yard box, but I actually thought his handling of crosses and corners was somewhat underrated. But yes, he is clearly a lunatic.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
They’re using a staple gun on his head. OW.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Gross, those German guys are sewing that guy’s cut without wearing gloves!!
June 25th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
God. The Turks are playing unbelieveable. They should be winning by 1 or 2 goals right now. They’ve had about 10 great chances.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
I like Germany’s team, but I really think I’m rooting for Turkey here.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
good luck, podolski is good as gone
June 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
to where though, mole?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Maxwell, I think you’re right in terms of pure skill. But, Almunia is a much more stable presence and a team like Arsenal that controls a lot of the ball is served better by that than by Lehman’s theatrics. I don’t think that the marginal difference in their shot stopping ability makes that much of a difference when they give up as few shots as they do.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
watching the game live ın Istanbul folks and ıt ıs a freakıng mad house.
Fatıh>Allah,Jehovah,JC,Ron Paul
June 25th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Any thought that the Turks are playing with passion due to the generally second class citizen treatment their countrymen receive when living in Germany?
June 25th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
somethıng to be saıd for that GYD, more than a lıttle somethıng
June 25th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
When a man named MrPickles speaks, I listen.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Frings is clearly a step slow today
June 25th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
update??
June 25th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Still 1-1 54th minute
June 25th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Apparently the Germans trained with the Italians. They seem to be going for the UEFA Oscar here tonight
June 25th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Glass Yard Dog – Turkish treatment by Germans adds a little spice from the fans side, but I don’t know how much from a players’ angle it really matters. There are a couple of the Turkish players who were born in Germany, so then it might be a factor.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
nice ESPN. Very nice.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
WTF
June 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Hm. Technical difficulties!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Apparently, it’s not ESPN’s fault. The BBC is out as well.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Here is a min by min from the Guardian if anyone is concerned. They don’t have the picture either, but do have the audio.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Turks miss Tuncay
June 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
I’m on this now and it’s pretty nice:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/euro-2008/2008/germany-turkey-134455.html
June 25th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Yeah, Sean Jean that is a good one as well. I just prefer the Guardian’s because they are well written and amusing.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Not sure if you all are still having tech difficulties, but still 1-1 71 min.
Turks are getting some looks but have no finishers at this point. Fatih likes to wait and call in the dogs in the 89 min or so.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
espn is back now
June 25th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
schweinsteiger – very good player, or a world class player?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
TBL: World class name. Could that be any more German?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
supposedly much better for country than team. odd how that happens
June 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
If anybody wants some interesting background info on “Kazim Kazim.”
His actual name is Colin Kazim-Richards, intended to be Colin Kazim Richards but his parents screwed up his birth certificate. He was born in Leytonstone, England and had to change his name to a Muslim one in Turkey to become a Turkish citizen.
He is also known as “the Coca-Cola Kid” in England because Brighton bought him after one of their fans won a $500,000 prize in a “win a player” promotion run by Coca-Cola.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
like duffy said, he turns into superman when the germany shirt is put on
June 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Germany scored
2-1
June 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
ps – i can’t see shit, but Rece Davis just said it
June 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
2-1 /… klose
June 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
2-1 Germany, although no one was there to see it
June 25th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Rustu, damn him. Stay in the freaking goal.
But the turks are comforting themselves with talks of a patented comeback
June 25th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
goddammit!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
supposedly a header from Klose on a cross where the keeper had bad positioning
June 25th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I am pissed that I can’t see the game, but how salty would you be if you were in Germany or Turkey. I can’t even imagine.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Rustu blew it on the 2nd german goal, came out of the box and got caught
June 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
just saw replay
wow, Keeper with an idiotic move
but what a header by Klose
WAIT, TURKEY JUST SCORED!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
GOAL, Semih!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
2-2. LOLzzzz. Hilarious.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
oh, what a move Sabri for Turkey to meg a german defender on the sideline and feed the kid for a goal
Turkish delight?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Schweinsteiger, a lot like Podolski, is much better for Germany than for Bayern Munich. He has scored more goals in this Euro 2008 than he did all season. He may be better though when Klinsmann takes over next season.
GREAT MATCH: Wish I could be watching it.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Schweinsteiger, a lot like Podolski, is much better for Germany than for Bayern Munich. He has scored more goals in this Euro 2008 than he did all season. He may be better though when Klinsmann takes over next season.
Word is, Scolari likes him.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
germany 3-2!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Lahm just ended it.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
LAHM!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Goal, Germany, Lahm
June 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
lahm slots one upper 90
no way turkey comes back now
90th min!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
that was brilliant
June 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
that is a great, great goal
turkey D fell apart there
June 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
that right there is why he is considered to be one of, if not the best, left back in the world.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
helluva game
awesome semifinal
June 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
damn. espn 360 is stll in the 87th minute
June 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
alowaish –
From an offensive end, Lahm is spectacular. He is almost equally as bad on the defensive end as the Turks have exploited today. However, he does seem to coem up big when needed. That was a great finish…
June 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
now i see the brilliance…
June 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Doesn’t the Fan Zone have a giant screen that is actually showing the match? Couldn’t they just swivel the camera?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Figures. The exciting games are always on when I’m not able to watch.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
i know, wally. he’s like roberto carlos in that way. Horrible defender, great attacker.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Wally’s World – That may be true, but most elite teams play attack first left backs that can get up the wing. Lahm is exceptional in that regard and can play on either side.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Great game, great run for Turkey! I will buy a round of Efes for you all!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
The best Roberto Carlos defensive moment is Henry’s goal in WC 2006 where you see him just watch and look up as Henry runs by him.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Really looking forward to the Spanish or the Russians peppering Lehman. What a joke he is.
Wow, a few moments of brilliance and Germany is rescued from complete and deserved embarrassment.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
i really wish there was a way to know if the whole international feed was f’ed or if it was just ESPN, any international readers out there?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
what a disaster with the technical difficulties. And having the announcer not at the site came back to bite them in the ass.
Really horrible to watch the fan zone as the announcers try to kill time and guess whats happening with the game. How cool would it have been if, with the loss of the TV feed, we had Rae and Gray doing play by play and describing the final hectic minutes – cause you know, they’d be at the actual game and not watching on a TV like the rest of us, guessing when the game would be over.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
What’s Lahm’s contract situation, anyway? I remember Mourinho being in love with him a few years ago. Could he make a play for him at Inter? Or is he content with Deco, Drogba, and Lamps?
June 25th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
The best Roberto Carlos defensive moment is Henry’s goal in WC 2006 where you see him just watch and look up as Henry runs by him.
That personifies his entire career right there. Of course, before, he had Makalele and Seedorf, as well as Hierro, covering up for him. Not so much on Brazil.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
We never lost the feed here in Istanbul. One camera went down at the time you all lost it, but we kept the consistent feed throughout
June 25th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
The feed was out around the world, not just ESPN.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
crcalpha: espn’s studio crew mentioned how German workers having the day off would be most pissed of all, implying that the whole international feed was screwed for everyone watching, maybe worldwide.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Fair enough, I do know that most of Europe and S.America were out as well.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Go Germany!!!!!!!!!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Props to the Turks for making Euro 2008 Must See TV…
June 25th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
watching the replay of the last goal by Lahm. Wow, he just pulled a soccer equivalent of breaking someones ankles (tearing a defender’s knee ligaments?) on the first run he made before he got it back. The Turkish defender just fell in a heap.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Fatih Terim, coach of Turkey, just announced his resignation as the National Coach. Big clubs have come a’calling
June 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Lehman was doing his best impression of Tony Meola out there…good thing Rustu was just as bad. Of course, bad goaltending is one way to get Americans interested in soccer…
June 25th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I know that’s what ESPN said, but another commenter (Istanbul) said at least part of the feed was solid. Maybe it was a satellite thing, but if ESPN alone dropped the ball, how would we know they weren’t lying?
June 25th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I wasn’t relying on ESPN. I was following the match on the Guardian Minute by Minute as well. They lost the signal completely in England. They also had people e-mailing in from all over the world as well saying that they too had lost signal.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
ESPN always lies, ESPN is the devil.
\Stupid
June 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
I don’t know what ESPN is claiming, but we saw the entire game from start to finish here in Istanbul. One camera went down, but we never lost signal. Only thing we lost was the match.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
according to this AP article, the only networks that had uninterrupted broadcasts were Swiss tv and Al-Jazeera.
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-euro2008-tvoutage&prov=ap&type=lgns