Nuggets Cut Costs, Deal Camby to Clippers
NBA July 16th. 2008, 12:50pm
We won’t bore you with the mind-numbing salary mumbo-jumbo, but here’s the jist: the Nuggets wanted to avoid paying the luxury tax, so they basically gave away their best (only?) defensive player for a twix bar, three AA batteries, and a bottle of SPF 30 suntan lotion. Denver has officially waved the white flag on the Carmelo Anthony/Allen Iverson union, and clearly is setting its sights on the future. The Paper Clips are desperately attempting to repair the damage done by Elton Brand leaving for Philly.
PG - Baron Davis
SG - Eric Gordon/Cuttino Mobley
SF - Al Thornton
PF - Marcus Camby
C - Chris Kaman
Essentially, the Other LA Team now has two centers who are long on defense and rebounding, but short on scoring, which means Thornton and injury-prone Boom Dizzle will average at least 15-20 shots per game. Our thoughts are probably a .500 record, but in a best case scenario, they might be in the mix for the 8th seed.
Quick glance at the Western Conference:
1. Lakers - Bynum’s back and he’s gonna have a good time …
2. Jazz - Remind us of the Pistons the last few years - solid all-around unit.
3. Spurs - Not nearly done.
4. Hornets - Wont’ be easy to win 56 games again.
5. Rockets - Are they better without Yao?
6. Suns - Where’s the defense?
7. Blazers - We’ve pounded the Kool-Aid, and we want more.
8. Mavericks - Haven’t improved since losing to the Heat in the Finals.
9. We’d go with Denver, followed by the Clippers, Kings, and Warriors. The dregs of the West are abysmal, but we’ll root for Kevin Durant and the Dust Bowl wonders.
Camby shipping out (Denver Post)
Puzzling at first glance, the Camby deal works for both sides (Hollinger)
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July 16th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Only three AA batteries? That won’t even operate most TV remotes.
Also, if the Nuggets are giving up on the Anthony/Iverson Era, will they seek to trade the two this offseason? We’ve heard some about Detroit’s curiosity but no other NBA teams. Perhaps the Camby move will have a domino effect?
July 16th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Whomever was on the other thread wondering where the Anthony fucking Johnson post was … really?
(actually was so fucking angry about the server i left the house. went to buy groceries and cool down.)
July 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
i much rather have camby at center than dwight howard. cue Irish in 3, 2, 1…
July 16th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Clippers will make the playoffs.
Nuggets will compete for the #1 pick in the draft.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
If it makes you feel any better, yesterday’s server issues forced me to do actual work and I was way behind. Although I was pissed at the time.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
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Did that do it? Let me know if the server craps out again. If I went to the grocery store to ‘cool down’ I would not be in good shape in about 2 hours after drinking 4 red bulls, and eating 2 pounds of candy bars.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
They gave away their best defensive player for the right to swap picks. Its rebuilding time in denver.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Kaman’s a decent 15-12, but only if you let him go solo in the post. I don’t know how this team’s going to mesh. I don’t think this was a smart move
July 16th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
who are the other 7?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
they got one of the top defenders in the league for virtually nothing. financially, it makes complete sense.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
if my boss took the day off because she was up all night watching the allstar game, its not a reach for me to ask to take a half day right?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
It’s a roster that looks nice on paper, but if you’re taking on $10 mil, why settle for a guy who’s 36 and will have to play out of position? The Clips aren’t made to win now, having Camby there takes up cap space they could’ve (maybe) used on a younger guy that would have time to play with the young guys
July 16th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
No order, but Spurs, Lake, Hornets, Jazz, Dallas, Phx, and (probably) Houston.
Depending on how the rest of the summer shakes out, might go Port instead of Hou.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
7th…sounds about right for the Blazers. Too much youth I think to do that much better, but certainly scary with the amount of talent.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Lakers-Hornets-Jazz-Spurs-Rockets-Blazers-Suns-Mavs
July 16th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
@Nick…that’s only 7 teams.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
TBL asked for my other 7.
I already said Clips up above.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Phoenix will finish top 4
July 16th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I know no one in this thread cares, but the owner of the Nuggets, also owns the avs, and both are being incredibly cheap this season (and usually they are not).
The Avs signed just enough players to get above the salary floor in Hockey, and now the Nuggets are flat out dumping salary. I’m kind of worried the guys got financial problems.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Clips are an intriguing team. THornton posted 16 and 6 after the all-star break. I don’t like the 2-guard situation though.
I’m surprised more teams didn’t go after Camby.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
And get wholloped by the Spurs in the playoffs again.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Phoenix will not finish in the top 4. 5-8 should be Blazers, Suns, Mavs, Rockets. I’m a Kool-Aid drinker too.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
What’s wrong with the SG situation?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
but the underestimated aspect of this trade is that the twix bar is actually 2 candy bars in 1. how does that fit under the cap for the clips?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Jibble, you better duck, lest you get hit with a tomato for bring up hockey in a B-Ball post.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
@NSR: The Nugs wanted to trade Camby and take back $0 in salary back. The only two teams in that position were Mem and LAC.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Camby would have been a much better fit on Phoenix than Shaq.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
The Clips had a lot of cap space because Brand left. They were going to use it to pick up possible pieces like Okafor, Josh Smith, and AI2
July 16th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I think he is just tired of paying the luxury tax for an NBA team that underperforms. His wife is a Wal-Mart heir, and is a certified billionaire. He is probably more enthused about the possibility of buying Arsenal, than paying millions of dollars to lose in the first round to the Lakers.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
in other related BBall news: Tracy McGrady stated that he would be open to the Detroit move. Does this give the story out of Canada more traction? Again, as a Pistons fan, not sure how i feel about it.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Phoenix could’ve been a dynasty if they weren’t so cheap
July 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
@jibblescribbits1: Stan Kroenke, the owner of the Nuggets, Avalanche, Rapids and minority owner of Arsenal, is a billionaire, although it was built on real estate, but is also married to another billionaire, Anne Walton, a Wal-Mart heir. I don’t think he’s hurting, probably just correcting course on his sports empires. Too much money for too little results.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
west playoffs
Hornets/Lakers/Spurs/Jazz/Clippers/Rockets/Blazers/Mavs
No way the Suns or the Nuggets make it. I’ll probably rank the Warriors over both of them.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
who? i dont think any exist at this moment. plus, they really had a hole up front without Brand.
Fan - you see this?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Well i was more bringing up that it’s worth keeping an eye on the owner of both teams, because hos franchises are obviously in salary dump mode this off-season.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
They were in the running of picking up Josh Smith, AI2, and Okafor. ESPN said they didn’t want to go through the whole RFA process so they picked up Camby.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
This isn’t a WAGs post.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
The Blazers are last season’s Hornets. Young guard, scoring PF, and a defensive minded C. But I like Portland’s other pieces a LOT more than I like New Orleans’.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Phoenix could’ve been a dynasty if they weren’t so cheap
No joke.. If they’d have kept Joe Johnson and actually hung to/used their draft picks they’d be dead even with the Spurs and Lakers.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
The Suns have the 6th highest payroll in the league and tend to always have. They didn’t become a dynasty because Robert Sarver chased away one of the best GM’s in basketball and gave that duty to Mike D’antoni. Which led to Marcus Banks 5Mill a year, Boris Diaw 9 Mill a year and Barbosa at 6 mill a year. Suns were not cheap just stupid.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
@TBL: no, but i’m ashamed to say i heard him talking about it on the radio the other day on the way home.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Chris Paul is light years better than Roy though.
Plus even though I’m not a David West fan, he’s also way better than Aldridge (who is completely overrated).
Oden = Chandler? Tough call; Chandler is really good. Oden will definitely be better in 1-2 years, but maybe not now.
Supporting casts are probably a wash. Portland’s 7-12 are a lot better, though.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Wow! Denver is giving up before the season even starts. What kind of motivation do AI/Melo play with knowing the team already tanked the season?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
What are these 7-12 guys you speak of?
/Watched Mike D’antoni coach for 5 years
July 16th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
@YYSA: I went to a Cavs-PHX game 2(maybe 3) years ago. Marion was hurt, so Pat Burke was prominently involved. Probably a good idea he keeps his bench of a short leash.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
at least you put the Lakers #1
July 16th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I like West, but I don’t think Aldridge is too far off ( a couple points and rebound). He’s 4 or 5 years yonger too. Paul is certainly great and he was my MVP pick last year, but Roy 19ppg 5rpg and 6apg ain’t bad.
I guess I’m just pointing out similarities, not saying the Hornets are better or worse (they’re better), but I think if Portland can mesh they’ll be tough to beat.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
How many picks did Phoenix sell to avoid the luxury tax? Not to mention trading two picks and Kurt Thomas for a conditional second round pick? They’re the sixth highest but they were never committed to take that extra step financially like the Lakers and Celtics to get it done. What’s worse, losing Thomas forced them to give up Marion for Shaq
July 16th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Battier > Camby
(it’s a freakin’ joke that Camby got more DPOY votes)
July 16th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
phx sold the picks that ended up being luol deng and rudy fernandez, i believe.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I thought one of the picks was Iggy.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
They sold Rondo, too. (I think)
July 16th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
It was Iggy or Deng. Deng went 7th, Iggy went 9th
July 16th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Whoa, Al Jefferson went 15th
July 16th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
THis shows what happens when you either draft according to need (instead of talent) or decide, we have no need–let’s trade the pick. Teams just don’t get it.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
So was this worse than the Pau Gasol deal?
July 16th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
If the Clips were any good it would have been worse, but I don’t think anyone will care much. In fact, it probably moved one team out of the playoffs (Denver) and didn’t do enough to put the other in (Clippers).
July 16th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
At least with the Gasol trade they actually got something back. At least they’re calling it what it is. They just dumped Camby.
July 16th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I didn’t realize Camby was 35. Good player, but certainly nothing to get worked up about. By missing the playoffs we won’t be able to rip Melo for getting swept out of the first round again. I guess we’ll always have TMac.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Whomever was on the other thread wondering where the Anthony fucking Johnson post was … really?
i didnt ask for a post. When Brand was signed, the post was called James Posey signing day. In the post itself, was a paragraph about the “thought” of the Cavs returning to the finals w/ the addition of Posey. its just funny that you think the Magic are such an awful team
July 16th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
James Posey is the greatest player to ever touch a basketball, I will not have his name sullied (unless he doesn’t sign with the cavs, then he’s a fucktard).
Nice for the Cavs to sign Gibson, he’s important for them. I gotta say irish, AJohnson and that weird foreign dude from Golden State, not exactly moves that put the Magic over the top.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Anthony Johnson is no Dooling.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
that “weird foreign” dude has potential. Drafted that kid out of WKU, Lee. Im just disappointed they didnt resign Dooling. He wanted mo money
coop your cavs are making no moves to improve. JJ Hickson does look good but it is only “YMCA” ball right? lol The Magic are still the best team in their division. F the Wiz
July 16th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
exactly SM. I was reading about Johnson today. He had 40 once against the NEts in the playoffs. but that was 2006..
July 16th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Mark Warkentien can go to hell … he was on sports radio here in Denver the day after the draft and was basically an a-hole know-it-all to the hosts when they asked him questions. When they find themselves winning 30-40 games and missing the playoffs for the rest of Carmelo’s career, it is moves like this that will be the root of it all.
July 16th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
hehehe, yes, summer league is YMCA, I would tear those dudes up (once I start tearing up the Y anyway, its not my fault I was born white and slow)
Hornets getting Posey, http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3492206, what an overrated fucktard.
July 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
haha yes coop. so happy the Cavs arent getting him. I will dunk on you coop, all day like Dwight Howard