NFL Preview: Power Rankings (16-32)
NFL July 31st. 2008, 2:15pm
The NFL season is a month away. We’ll begin our “preview” with the always-fun power rankings, which will be split up over today and tomorrow. More neat stuff next week. This is an old photo of Chris Chandler, whose heart bleeds for the worst team in the league, Atlanta.
16. Green Bay Packers – 2008, in a word: Fluke.
17. Tampa Bay Bucs - He’s 37, balding, and nobody’s talking about how putrid the offense was at home last year in the postseason. Still, this Jeff Garcia’s wife.
18. Buffalo Bills - Best bet: Outscouring that anemic offense.
19. Cleveland Browns – It’s the rigorous schedule more than anything.
20. Houston Texans - We look at the roster, we look at the history and we think mediocrity, or George from the even-Steven Seinfeld episode.
21. Denver Broncos – The real question is whether or not Brandon Marshall’s arrest total will top the number of kids Travis Henry has.
22. Cincinnati Bengals – Will Chad Johnson produce against quality teams this year? He didn’t last year (three TDs against playoff teams, and all came in one game).
23. Chicago Bears – Rex Grossman or Kyle Orton is like choosing between Synchronized Swimming or Archery.
24. New York Jets – This is assuming they don’t land Favre.
25. Oakland Raiders – Here’s hoping TJ Simers pesters JaMarcus Russell about his weight the way he badgered Andruw Jones.
26. San Francisco 49ers – You know who else has small hands? Kwame Brown. Bonne chance, Alex Smith.
27. Detroit Lions - Actual names of three defenders: Leigh, Paris, Jordon. All they need is a guy named Sieve.
28. Baltimore Ravens – Troy Smith? Bwwwwaaaahhhhhhhh!
29. St. Louis Rams – Rough early schedule will probably dampen spirits of a decent offensive team.
30. Miami Dolphins – The only reasons to watch: Ronnie Brown and Ted Ginn.
31. Kansas City Chiefs – Brodie Croyle or Damon Huard is like picking between paper or plastic. Poor Herm.
32. Atlanta Falcons – This depth chart should make Mike Vick smile for at least one day in prison. Better win two of their first three, because after that, 13 losses in a row isn’t out of the realm.
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July 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
first
July 31st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Shouldn’t the rankings go down?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
if the Jets land Favre, how far to they move up?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Ha. You mean in that one game?
Packers will be back in the playoffs, book it!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
If the Cardinals aren’t number one then I’m done with this peace of shit blog.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Oh yeah:
FIRST!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Packers are missing the playoffs, Bucs are winning the NFC South, Texans are going 10-6 and making the playoffs.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
that’s what she said
July 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
commence bitching from Spence.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
“31. Kansas City Chiefs – Brodie Croyle or Damon Huard is like picking between paper or plastic. Poor Herm.”
I believe the depth chart is actually Croyle, Thigpen, then Huard. I’m pretty sure I’m not making that up. I heard the King of Comedy (Herm) say that on the radio. Or I was drunk.
42nd!!!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Brodie Croyle or Damon Huard is like picking between paper or plastic.
Picking between Brodie’s wife and Godzilla biscuits on the other hand is like picking between Heaven and Heaven.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
paper vs. plastic > archery vs. synchronized swimming, therefore chiefs > bears
/grasping for something
July 31st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Green Bay will be back in the playoffs. I mean… they win their division by default. Rodgers would have to be a real no-talent asshole to keep the Packers from winning the Central.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
that is SG favorite set up. she never misses that one.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Browns at 19, huh? Well, that’s interesting. Accuracy always is overrated on power ratings. Its all about inflaming the readers to get more clicks. Good work, TBL!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I wasn’t make stuff up. It is Croyle, Thigpen, then Huard.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/
Miami and KC. That’s just some bad QB’ing.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
…to proclaim the Cardinals first.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I think the Browns are ranked too high no matter what direction the numbers go.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
How DARE you not include my Chicago Bears on that list
July 31st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Yes, the Packers could probably beat the Cubs, Brewers, Cardinals, et al in football, but I’m pretty sure they’d be even worse than the Pirates in baseball.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Jeeves – Hey, at least Orton is entertaining.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
schedule inst that tough
/optimistic?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
TBL is correct about the Browns, their schedule is murder.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Vikings are winning the North.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
You’re such a good reader sportsgal
July 31st, 2008 at 2:27 pm
I didn’t think the Bucs did too bad last year considering our old, bald quarterback..our best WR was Galloway(old) and our best RB started out third string..(still cherishing SB win)
July 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…
rather than give you a 10,000 word comment about how wrong you are, i’ll give you this…
Joe Thomas
July 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
TBL, I thought you were going to “mix it up” for the NFL preview?
CBH, I got DAL, SEA, MIN, GB, CAR, and PHI from the NFC …. though I think NO could easily replace CAR.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
TBL, please explain your logic behind putting the Cardinals in the top 16.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
You have the Lions exactly 5 spots too high.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
If the Browns go 3-1 or even 2-2 before thier bye I think it give them the confidence to steal alot of the games they have been written off from winning.
As for the Lions, they suck.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I also need someone to explain what Carolina did in the offseason that is causing them to go from one of the worst teams in the league to a playoff team.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
this just in…re: Browns
Joe Thomas
July 31st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Mike my NFC in this order is, Seattle, Dallas, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, Washington
July 31st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Um, David Carr and Vinny Testeverde won’t be attempting half the team’s passes this year?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
what exactly makes people think these teams are any good? please enlighten me because their rosters look like absolute GARBAGE.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Agreed… The 7 games after the Bye are critical. They can do no worse than 5-2 and expect a playoff spot. Really, 6-1 is likely needed if they want to win the division.
However, Pittsburgh has the same ugly schedule which includes home games against Indy, Dallas and the reigning champs and roadies against the Jags, Eagles and Skins.
But, the Stillers schedule also includes a trip to New England and a home game against the Super Chargers where the Browns get the Broncos and Bills instead.
9-7 might win that division.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
That Falcons depth chart couldn’t win the arena bowl, or beat USC
July 31st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Philly I can maybe see why you would think that, but not Washington, their Offensive line is stacked, they have two good RB’s, two good, decent WR’s, good corners, Taylor and Carter on the D line.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I think the Panthers are due for a great year. If Delhomme can stay healthy, as well as the defense, they should be fine.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Wally, you’re right, Steelers win at 9-7, everyone else is 5-11 or worse.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Don’t waste your time, TBL. Girls are dumb.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
NFC East > NFC anything else… just like every year.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
simple math i suppose. they are more than 7 spots better than the Bears.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
except when the Bucs won..
July 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
So getting a new QB is going to improve their horrible running game and mediocre defense?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
everyone realizes that Jason Taylor is on the left side right? meaning he’s using the opposite coordination he’s used his entire, decade long career and is facing aggressive mauling RT’s with TE help rather than LT’s who sit and wait for him to come right?
this was not a good signing.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
The Browns are only going to be better than last year and are better than the Skins and Eagles.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
19???!!!! Pittsburgh better be 15 on that list then. These two teams are fairly even talent wise and they have the same brutal schedule except Pitt has SD and NE and the Browns have Denver and Buffalo.
/refuses to click on any ads in protest
July 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
@cbh… No chance that the Browns are 5-11 or worse. None, zero, zilch. There are cracks in the Stillers in many places. With that schedule, they easily can be outside looking in. Cleveland WILL be good and that still might only get them 8 or 9 wins.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Green Bay’s schedule is pretty easy. 10 wins:
Cincy at home.
@ SF
Tennessee at home.
@ Detroit
Atlanta at home
Chicago at home
Carolina at home
Houston at home
@ Chicago
Detroit at home
July 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Spencer is on the money..and Mike NYC..the Eagles? Seriuosly? 5-11 this year…it is their worst team in a while
July 31st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I wouldn’t call these “power” rankings, Raj!
/ROTFLOL’ingMAO
July 31st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Oh and add the Titans to that list as well.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Also the Oakland Raiders may suprise this year IMO. That defense is nasty.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Their two first-round draft picks should help the running game. As for the defense, who the hell knows, it’s just a stupid prediction.
Besides, they play in the NFC South. You’re telling me that division isn’t up for grabs?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
JaMarcus Russell and I have a lot in common. Except his poop weighs more.
/Ryan Leaf dba Todd Marinovich
July 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
The Browns would kill Brady Quinn for the Packers schedule…
July 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
very much in agreement.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
someone is ready the professor John Clayton a lil too much.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
i would kill brady quinn for an oatmeal raisin cookie.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Sparty, Arizona isn’t better than the Packers, Browns or Bucs.
NSR, you seem to forget the Bears beat the Packers twice last year, and Lovie has yet to lose to the Packers more than once a season since he took over as head coach.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I unfortunately think TBL is right about the Browns. Last year they beat 1 quality team, the Seahawks. 10-6 was the best they could have done last year. 8-8 might be the best they do this year.
No one knows how Derek Anderson will play this year, and Brady Quinn apparently is having trouble in camp.
And Spencer, Joe Thomas is great.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Oatmeal raisin cookies give me heartburn just like no bakes. I hate heartburn.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
July 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Fair point, I just think TB is a lot better than Carolina.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
tony the tiger-ized
July 31st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
ANy TB fans want to let me know what in the name of hell happened to Cadillac Williams? Did he die?
July 31st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
“TBL, please explain your logic behind putting the Cardinals in the top 16.” Sportsgal
IIRC, TBL is part of the annual group of prognosticators that puts that thinks this is going to be the year for the Cardinals. This is like 8 years in a row that people are doing it.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Eagles will manage to go 8-8 just to piss off the fans enough that Reid keeps his job.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
despite getting jobbed out of a loss at Oakland and Arizona…and being one Big Ben tackle away from another one.
FAIL…
best o-line in the NFL, DL that weights 1,000 lbs. scary offensive skill players = 16-0. championship.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Is this the NFL prediction thread? Roman, I wanna see your playoff teams for this year!
Somebody book mark this post for when January rolls around …
July 31st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
sportsgal, fair enough. There’s room for error on both sides. I left out a few home games and a couple winnable road games as well.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Minny would like to talk to you about that.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
sorry, spence. cortes broke that story hours ago.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
they have a strong left side, but their right side is pretty bland. browns are balanced across the line and go 8 deep…they win based on depth and balance.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
The Name on the Door is Cleveland!!
July 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
granted they didn’t block anyone during the Tyree catch, but I would like to throw the World Champion New York Football Giants O-Line into that discussion.
/homerism just a bit
July 31st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Minnesota’s O-Line > Cleveland’s O-Line
Quit being a homer for a second, Spence, and get in touch with reality.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
OL Rankings:
1. browns
2. minny
3. NYG – it’s true…watch the games
4. NE
5. PIT – just kidding, they’re dead last. hookers.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Yea because we all know you play 8 guys on the front line…
July 31st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
TBL, i love you, really i do, but this AWFUL. i didn’t even read all these comments because i’m so upset.
the rams used SIXTEEN offensive linemen last year. the most consecutive games one group played was THREE. if they stay even remotely healthy, they win 7 games in that shitty division. not to mention they have drafted like a real team lately (carriker, long), and have leonard little healthy again. if they don’t make the playoffs by 2009 (regular season), i will slit my wrists. they are absolutely on the rise.
the bears will be lucky to win 4 games. and since the NFL is inching ever closer to every team going 8-8, i’d say they are in the bottom 5. how are they going to score ANY points? hester better play like bo jackson in tecmo bowl for them to score 20 points a game.
green bay…how was that a fluke last year? they have a very good offensive line (evident by the fact that ryan grant is a solid RB), two playmaking WRs, a solid tight end…a very good d-line, good linebackers, and an average secondary that is playing against fucking rex grossman and tarvaris jackson 4 times this season. i’ll make any bet you want that they win 9 games this year.
i hope 1-15 is a better effort than this. yikes.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
sportsgal, this is the second time we have agreed on something in the past 2 weeks. I think the end may be near.
The Cubs still suck.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
I think he means the NFC Naaaarrrris division.
/bermanized
July 31st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
jamal lewis ran for 1300+ yards and Derek Anderson was sacked 13 times in the last 15 games…im being objective here.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Seriously, most of you are drinking the Browns Kool Aid, there defense sucks balls.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Ron, you didn’t get Manny but you got Arthur Rhodes!!!!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AlxEbcoCdIUF28trnsAX5Zo5nYcB?slug=ap-marlins-marinerstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns
July 31st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
and we all know that, just like madden, guys never get tired or hurt during a regular season.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Minny gave up two times as many sacks as Cleveland last year. 38 to 19.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Horseballs is in a contract year I believe. If he pulls his same stunts as last year with an improved defense, he could win 9 or 10.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
I picked the Packers to win a division in a different professional sport – book it.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Nah, Horseballs resigned with Cleveland for 3 years.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
And hasnt everybody drank the Cardinal’s Kool-Aid for the past three seasons.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
cbh the browns defense lacked a good pass rush which they addressed in the offseason, the whole unit should be much improved
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
1st year is the only year guaranteed or some shit liek that. it’s a 3 year contract, but in NFL-terms, it’s essentially only for one yaer.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
@ Spence. Being in the position so they could get jobbed out of a loss at Oakland and Arizona shows that the Browns were really not that good last year. How about that Ravens win with that reviewed Dawson kick?
The Browns have a more difficult schedule and I am not conviced they are going to play better this year.
There offensive line and probably defensive lines are far and away the best they have had since their return, and that hopefully will keep them in some games.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Yet somehow they couldn’t manage to win against the Bears at all last year.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Not to mention Cleveland threw the ball 113 more times (545 to 432)
July 31st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Put this down as the dumb TBL prediction of the year. How, exactly, are the Packers not going to win games against that NFC North? They beat the Vikings twice last year, and they’re the ones who hurt AP.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
karmic payback for the oak game and not getting a 15-yard flag when haloti ngata punched Joe Thomas in the face like the bitch he is.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:58 pm
There is a $5M option bonus next year the Browns will have to pay to keep his rights. That is the big question mark.
July 31st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Buffalo is better than Cleveland? i am a die hard Bills fan. The Buffalo Bills are not a better team than Cleveland. Trust me, I hate Cleveland
July 31st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
How, exactly, are the Packers not going to win games against that NFC North? They beat the Vikings twice last year, and they’re the ones who hurt AP.
Aaron Rodgers is your answer.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
ark, it was my comment about Minny’s o-line wasn’t it?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Spence your Browns fandom is one of the reasons I miss living in Cleveland. As a fellow Browns fan, I hope you are right about them this year.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
this is true, but irish, the bills get miami and NYJ 2x this year, so there’s 4 wins right there.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Yet somehow they couldn’t manage to win against the Bears at all last year.
you should consider watching games once in a while. that fag punter for GB single-handedly blew one of those games last year.
and in the first game, i believe green bay lost five fumbles, which means chicago was lucky, nothing more. you aren’t talented because you recover fumbles.
sorry for bursting your bubble. i’ll bet you any sum of money the packers sweep the bears this year.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
You are talented if you force fumbles.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
i’ll bet you any sum of money the packers sweep the bears this year.
Butlerboy has volunteered to be the intermediary.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
slcbuckeye…believe me, ive been looking for every excuse to not get too excited: the schedule, the exposure, the inevitable step backwards…but with the moves savage made this offseason, and the way shaun rogers and corey williams look in camp, i can’t help but be optimistic.
seriously, their d-line is INSANE. 1,000 lbs between 3 guys all of whom are good 3-4 linemen and this beau bell kid looks like a bull. the secondary scares the fuck out of me tho. plus, i ahte harbaugh in balt, think cincy is garbage, and pit couldnt block a JV pass rush so, until proven otherwise, i remain optimistic.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I think I’m in love.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:04 pm
that was funny.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
The Buffalo Bills are not a better team than Cleveland.
the bills are a very good team though. they have unreal depth in the secondary, plus a solid o-line and some playmakers on offense. if trent edwards progresses at all, they’ll be 5-3 going into new england in week 10. mark it down.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
@spence: If only you didn’t have to play cincy twice.
/Bangs
July 31st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I have faith. I saw that Cowboys game.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
How do you figure that? The Bears & Vikings both have better defenses then the Packers. The Bears are significantly better on special teams the anyone else in the division. The Vikings have a far better offensive line & running backs then anyone else in the division. The only area where GB has a clear advantage is at WR and even that might be a bit of a mirage since Favre has always made receivers look better then they really are. There is absolutely no reason to think Rodgers is any better then Grossman/Orton or Jackson. He’s never started an NFL game, has had injury problems despite rarely playing, and comes from a college system with a long history of producing bad NFL QBs. So what reason is there to think he’s any good? Unless Favre & the Packers make up and he’s starting for them again this season, it will be the Vikings & Bears competing for the division. Packers will be lousy and the Lions will be the Lions.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Butlerboy has volunteered to be the intermediary.
quote of the week. haha.
spencer, i can’t believe you’re falling into the shaun rogers trap. i’ve played basketball with him a few times. he’s one of the most out-of-shape people i’ve ever seen in my life, let alone a pro athlete. don’t expect much from him. i can’t imagine he would become re-dedicated at this point in his career. i think the lions pimped you guys by getting leigh bodden for shaun’s corpse.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Buffalo Bills schedule
Sun. 9/7 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Sun. 9/14 @ Jacksonville Jaguars
Sun. 9/21 OAKLAND RAIDERS
Sun. 9/28 @ St. Louis Rams
Sun. 10/5 @ Arizona Cardinals
BYE 10/12 BYE BYE
Sun. 10/19 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
Sun. 10/26 @ Miami Dolphins
Sun. 11/2 NEW YORK JETS
Sun. 11/9 @ New England Patriots
Mon. 11/17 CLEVELAND BROWNS
Sun. 11/23 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Sun. 11/30 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Sun. 12/7 MIAMI DOLPHINS (Toronto)
Sun. 12/14 @ New York Jets
Sun. 12/21 @ Denver Broncos
Sun. 12/28 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
July 31st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Nick…we’re out for blood. couple o’ shootouts will be fun.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Rumeal…im excited because by all accounts he’s in great shape. plus, would you really give a shit if you played for a Matt Millen ran team? didn’t think so.
and don’t get fooled by bodden…scouts seem to love him, but he gets toasted…A LOT. and why did detroit give shaun rogers up for a CB when they play a cover 2 that devalues CB’s? don’t understand that one. plus, when he gets hurt half the year, youll wish you had that fat fuck back.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Buffalo needs to send some of that secondary depth to Cleveland so I won’t be so scared of teams that can pass.
/Mel Tucker
July 31st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Late to the party, but Spence and his Browns contingent are right… There isn’t much difference between the Steelers/Browns this year and given the brutal schedules, 9-7 will likely win the division.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Da Bears!
July 31st, 2008 at 3:13 pm
I think the Bills could get a wild card with that schedule. If they can beat the Browns at home and Denver on the road they could easily win 10 or 11 games.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Christ Edmonds, have yourself a game: 2-2, 2 HR’s 5 RBI’s so far
July 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Not Dead, just constantly injured… suffered a major knee injury last year and is going to take a while to heal. He is on a good pace, on PUP right now, expect optimistically to get him back around week 8.
As for everyone wondering about Carolina, while I do think that TB is better, Carolina is an enigma, they went 7-9 last year and that was a bad year, they get back Jake who was on a tear before he got injured and Peppers can’t be as bad as he was last year. Honestly have no idea who wins the division.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
as soon as rogers gets into the grind of the season, he’ll lose motivation and start playing like a slug. he had a tremendous game last year vs. chicago and then played maybe one more good game the rest of the year (vs. denver). believe me, he will let you down this year.
i’ve heard nothing but good things about bodden, except he has a tendency to get dinged up. i know the tampa-2 devalues corners, but tampa had some good ones over the years and you still need SOME depth out there. we weren’t cutting it with fucking fernando bryant and bennie blades, so they HAD to address that position.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
leigh bodden aint that great either RR
July 31st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
bay to the rays
http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/rays_to_acquire_bay.html
July 31st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Hey everyone, Rumeal has told us winning football games in the NFL is entirely about luck! I guess that means any time our team gets out-played, we should blame it on the opposing team’s good luck.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
i guess it’s a tradeoff.
i remain cautiously optimistic about rogers though. now the browns have some depth and shaun smith can spell him at NT as well. hopefully things turn out well, but i hear where youre coming from because rogers has always fucked shit up as the season rolls on.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
There’s a Bill Bellichick sex tape?
http://pregame.com/forums/blogs/tommy-rider/archive/2008/07/29/my-last-day-as-a-new-england-patriot.aspx?gn=376875&CommentPosted=true
Barf.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
@slcbuckeye- i hope you’re right
July 31st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
CBH, you weren’t here yesterday, we already had a discussion about that blog.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
dahhhhhhhhhhh, ok, I’ll cease and desist.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Hey everyone, Rumeal has told us winning football games in the NFL is entirely about luck! I guess that means any time our team gets out-played, we should blame it on the opposing team’s good luck.
when you recover five fumbles and win by 7 points, i’d say that’s a lucky win. at no point did i say winning is entirely about luck. nice try though. you probably went to michigan state.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:23 pm
So Green Bay was unlucky because they couldn’t hold onto the ball? The Bears were not very good last year, but your argument is almost as good as your make believe lineup for the Rangers yesterday.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
I am just glad ny 49ers weren’t in the 30 – 32 range.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Everyone knows it a delicate balance between luck and skill in the NFL. Hell, how else can you explain the NE-Baltimore game last year. TB beat Philly 2 years ago on a last sec 63 yard Field Goal when our kicker hadn’t made any greater then 50 all year.
Terrell Suggs said it to a reporter at Camp this year.. it’s sometimes how the cards fall, the org was the same last year as it was 2 years ago in terms of plays called,camp,etc.. but one resulted in a 13-3 season and another in a 5-11 season that got Brian fired.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
No seriously SG, the Bears are going to suck really bad this season. I am sorry for you if you think otherwise…
July 31st, 2008 at 3:28 pm
green bay fumbling five times makes that performance bad. whoever recovers those fumbles makes them lucky. read a book for fuck’s sake.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
magglio, you’re off base there. the bears are going to trade for favre, devin hester is going to be the next steve smith, and they have the best offensive line in the league. did i mention that the cubs are about to trade for ryan howard and hanley ramirez?
best sports city ever.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
How the hell can that city stay so optimistic!?! It is incredible! Every Chicago sports fan is like that too… It is honestly amazing.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
I agree, the Bills could go 10-6 with that schedule.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:34 pm
One of the biggest idiots I have ever encountered in the cyber world is telling me to read a book? That is great.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Mags, I have no doubt the Bears will suck – Jerry Angelo made minimal improvements to the offensive line and didn’t address the QB position. I’ve said it a million times on this site, and I didn’t argue about their ranking spot above. There are obvious flaws with the Packers and the Bears exposed those flaws twice last year, that’s all I’m trying to point out.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Maggs, how are the Lions looking this year?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
i’m an idiot because i pointed out the rangers make terrible trades and i think the bears suck this year? i said the packers weren’t a fluke last year and sportsgal argued that by saying the bears swept them last year. BIG FUCKING DEAL.
diesel: the cubs might win the world series.
sportsgal: but they got swept by tampa bay in june. waaah.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I am not saying anything about the Lions being better than the Bears because they won’t be. What I am saying is that you don’t see me saying “Lions will be awesome this year with no QB and no RB!!!11!!” like every Bears fan does. How can you not be realistic with yourselves is all I am saying?
July 31st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
If Kyle Orton is a possible #1 QB on your team you’re pretty much fucked.
July 31st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
The Houston Texans at #20?
Mario Williams is going to eat your children.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Every Bears fan, Mags? I have yet to see a single Bears fan on here say the Bears have any shot at winning with Rex as our QB.
Rumeal, you’re in idiot because you’re insinuating it took no skill to beat the Packers twice last year. I think the Packers are overrated. If they lose to a bad team twice, they’re not that good.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Well obviously not EVERY Bears fan… It is just that in my opinion Chicago as a whole has the most optimistic sports fans of any city… sometimes it is complete blind frustrating optimism. That is what I was meaning to say.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
only a third of the way through these comments, as i’ve been busy this PM, but so far, SG’s ‘that’s what she said’ takes the cake.
I enjoy the Browns as much as the next guy … but sorry, the schedule is just too tough, Spencer.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Liek when I argue with my buddy (die hard Cubs fan) about anyone who is a Cub or was a Cub in his book they are awesome and always will be awesome. I just don’t get that. I will tell you who sucked if they played for us, if they sucked they sucked. And even if they were good at some times and now they suck I will tell you if they suck. I hate that about Chicago fans…
July 31st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
@ magglio, ask your buddy what he thinks of neifi.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Better yet, Mags, ask him what he thinks of Farnsworth.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
No that is just it! I tried to tell him Farnsworth was awful. He kept saying how good it was for Detroit! I wanted to die.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:18 pm
RR – pretty much everything you say here is idiotic in someway, just about everyone else will agree with me.
Maggs – The Bears and Lions will be 3 and 4 in the division, I know the Bears will not be very good and have never said otherwise. You have no concept of the individual vs the whole. So you have a buddy that argues like that, big deal. That doesn’t mean every fan of every Chicago team is blinded by his own optimistic ass every season.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I’ll say it. The Bears do have a shot at winning with either Grossman or Orton at QB. Anyone who says they have no shot at winning with either of them hasn’t been paying attention. The Bears are 20-11 with Grossman starting and 12-6 with Orton starting. They are clearly capable of winning with either one of them at QB because they’ve already done it a lot. The rest of the team wasn’t any better in 2005 or 2006 when they went a combined 24-8 with Grossman/Orton starting every game then it is now. It’s virtually the exact same defense and they’re still plenty young enough to now worry about a drop off. Their special teams are still the best in the league. The WR are not any worse then they were then (Moose & Berrian were mediocre at best). Offensive line is a bit more questionable, but has the potential to be better if Williams pans out. Really, the only noteworthy difference between this year’s team and the 2006 Super Bowl team is Thomas Jones. Do you idiots really believe Thomas F’ing Jones is such a stellar RB that he makes the difference between a Super Bowl team and sub-500 team?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Your defense is two years older.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
@brh: They’re counting on Mike Brown to play past the halfway point of the season.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
RR – pretty much everything you say here is idiotic in someway, just about everyone else will agree with me.
THAT is idiotic.
just because i don’t agree with everything the minions say, and i don’t like the same teams you like, doesn’t make me “idiotic”. you have the attitude of a petulant teenager.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
brh…moose and berrian WERE mediocre at best. but unfortunately brandon lloyd and, um, who’s your other STARTING WR again? and thomas jones and ced benson were average at best, but who’s STARTING at RB this year?
that’s my point.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
If the Week 1 starting defense stays healthy the entire year they will easily be top 10, maybe top 5. The chances of that actually happening are about 5%.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
You are so dense. You can have different opinions all you want, they just need to make some kind of sense. They hardly ever do.
Petulant teenager? That’s a big one for you, hope you didn’t pull a muscle.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
You sure you really want to make that bet? Do you realize that the Bears are 6-2 against the Packers since Lovie Smith was hired? To top that off, those 2 losses occurred in late season games when neither team had anything to play for. So the Bears haven’t lost a meaningful game to the Packers since 2003. And you’re absolutely convinced that a totally unproven QB from a bad college system is going to do better then a 1st ballot HOF QB did against the Bears? Really?
July 31st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
brh, don’t try to talk any sense into Rumeal, he’s too stupid to understand common sense or believe in facts like win-loss records.
July 31st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
spencer096…Moose may have been better in his prime, but Marty Booker is better right now then Moose has been for the last few years. Berrian is a 1 dimensional deep threat with shaky hands that shies away from contact. Hester can already do that and maybe much more if he can learn how to run more then just a fly route (the only thing Berrian was actually good at). The current group they have can easily match Moose & Berrian. It won’t take much.
As for RB, they have rookie who has looked very good so far and that is the easiest position in football for a rookie to step in and start. They also have Kevin Jones waiting in the wings. Once Jones is healthy, him & Forte will split time. That’s no worse then Jones/Benson and will probably be better because Benson sucked.
So what’s your point again?
July 31st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
my point? youre fucking delusional dude. MARTY BOOKER AND BRANDON LLOYD. you’re arguing that they’re decent players, when, clearly, they are not. your qb’s suck, yet you think just because the bears have a winning record with them, theyll win this year.
guess what, they won IN SPITE of those qb’s with awesome defense and special teams…who in their right mind would kick to devin hester? and each key member of the defense has an injury history.
im not saying the bears are going to suck, there’s a chance any team (except the falcons) have a good season, but at the same time, how can you realistically be confident when your offense is so bereft of talent it’s laughable?
July 31st, 2008 at 8:52 pm
The Bears starting RB is from Tulane. Forte will be good, or would be if the Bears and some sort of passing game. Berrian at least kept defenses a little honest, Lloyd and Booker will not.
July 31st, 2008 at 9:51 pm
he’s too stupid to understand common sense or believe in facts like win-loss records.
we’ll see genius. in the mean time, i think you should start rooting for the clemson tigers and houston rockets right…….NOW.