College Football Top 10: No. 4 Florida
College Football August 21st. 2008, 1:15pm
No need for us to further inflate the egos of Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow. Meyer possesses a devious offensive mind; Tebow (bonus photo after the jump!) is a stronger, more accurate version of former Nebraska QBs like Tommy Frazier and Eric Crouch. (Some might worry about Tebow possibly losing focus with his many distractions; doubtful.) Everyone knows the Gators – who return eight starters on offense, including fun-to-watch WR-RB hybrid Percy Harvin – will score at a prodigious pace. (We’re pumped to see speedy Chris Rainey, too.) But can the defense, which lost its best player to the NFL draft, stop anyone?
Eventually, someone – Jermaine Cunningham? Carlos Dunlap? – will emerge as a star on the defensive line, because somebody always does (Kearse, Warren, Moss, Harvey, etc). The linebackers, led by All-SEC talent Brandon Spikes, are solid. The secondary? It can’t be worse than last year – the Gators pass defense was ranked last in the SEC. But with zero senior starters and only one, Major Wright, whom we trust, will things improve?
You know what might save the defense? A favorable schedule: depending on what you think of Florida State, Tennessee could be the only true road test. However, we wouldn’t rule out teams like Hawaii and South Carolina coming into the Swamp and pushing the Gators due to UF’s inability to stop the pass. We’re thinking 10 or 11 wins, with a loss to Georgia and in a bowl game.
10. Tennessee
9. BYU
8. Clemson
7. LSU
6. West Virginia
5. Ohio State
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August 21st, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Two photos of the Crocs, what a day!
August 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Ok, I’ll say it. How can you put up a Florida post with a picture of Godzilla Biscuits?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
they will lose Sept 6th
/wishful thinking
August 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
*without*
August 21st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
This milk tastes salty
/
tbl
August 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
a gator wearing crocs! NOW I’VE SEEN IT ALL!!!
YUK YUK YUK YUK YUK
/shoots self
August 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
if june jones was still at hawaii i might agree about the warriors pushing the gators.
but apparently meyer has his troops pumped for two reasons: 1) the georgia celebration, 2) june jones ran his mouth last year how florida didn’t deserve to be in a bcs game.
jones may be gone, but the warriors will wish they were back in maui rather than hogtown.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
If you think the Rainbow Warrios are going to push the Gators anywhere you are hilariously misinformed. And this is coming from a UH alum.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
By pushing, i guess i should clarify: I dont think the game will be over at halftime.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I know bowl games are glorified exhibition games, but they were really unimpressive against Michigan last year. I thought the Wolverines would be no match for Florida’s SEC speed.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm
jimmy: The Warriors are never in Maui.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
TBL: Want to bet something that it will? A friendly wager?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
oahu?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
jimmy: Atta boy.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
umm…they weren’t in a BCS game, why would that piss meyer off?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
@st bear: a better picture. i’m not sure if its her or not.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
sugar bowl isn’t a bcs bowl???
August 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Urban Meyer was my parents neighbor. Hot wife. TBL still loves Tebow way too much.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Wiat wait wait… didn’t we just beat this team?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
ok, you know it; i know it. we all know it:
when does the ohio state-michigan daily thread pissing match begin?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
they played in the capital 1 bowl last yr didnt they?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Tennessee could be the only true road test.
Heard a frightening fact for UT fans the other day: Except for Vanderbilt (of effin’ course), EVERY single SEC opponent UT plays will be coming off of a bye week when they play (including Florida) UT.
That extra week to rest and prep is a dangerous thing when you have a first year starter at QB, and could really help out the top teams in the SEC…
August 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
NTTAWWT, of course.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
this team does not = App St
August 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
August: Doh. I don’t like the sound of that. I’ll spin it as: Tennessee will be less rusty! Yeah, that’s the ticket.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
meyer was jocking for a bcs bowl bid. so was jones (this was before the bids went out). jones got on espn radio and pretty much slammed the gators which got meyer’s boxers in a bunch.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Being the last team to beat the #4 ranked team feels pretty good none the less. It must feel better than LOSING to the #7 ranked team… yup, sure does.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Sean Jean…yea, they were in teh Cap One bowl…and that’s not a BCS bowl.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Preseason rankings are for the birds – this is a stupid post
/Maggs
August 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
@Maggs: But what about being the last team to lose to the team that lost to the #7 ranked team?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Tebow is a line backer with a slightly better throwing arm…
August 21st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Losing to the number #2 ranked NCAA Div 2 team is way, way better.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm
jimmy…meyer was jocking for a bowl bid? he’s a fucking moron then…3 teams fro mthe same conference can’t get in, and he honestly thought FLA was going to get in above a team with fewer losses THAT BEAT HIS TEAM!?!?!?!
fuck urban meyer…fucking douchebag. he’s shamed the great state of ohio.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm
LSU plays App. St. this year, not last year.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm
so you’re pretending to be joe paterno today, hhmm?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm
@Sean Jean: I’ve never seen anything like that on a schedule before…
August 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Nice pics Benj. Who cares if it’s her or not?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Sean Jean…yea, they were in teh Cap One bowl…and that’s not a BCS bowl.
More precisely, they lost in the Cap One bowl.
Florida isn’t a Top 5 team and with that D… I would stretch and say Top 10 is questionable. Of course, I hate Florida because of Donovan and so maybe my perception is off.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Wait…a Tebow post and NO mention of Godzilla Biscuits, nevermind a photo?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Huh?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
don’t like August’s tidbit, do like Sean Jean’s spin.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Tebow is a line backer with a slightly better throwing arm…
Oddly enough, that’s exactly what his Heisman says.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
@NSR
Exactly…
August 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Meyer possesses a devious offensive mind
i read in SI that Meyer learned his offense from Rich Rod when he was at BGSU. Correct me if i am wrong
August 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
@irish
Correct.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Stronger Tommy Frazier? Maybe, but definitely slower. I don’t think Timmy will be out doing Tommy with runs like this one.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:36 pm
UF’s defense was a sieve last year. They were very young, so there is potential of getting better. But in the SEC East, where every game is a dogfight (just ask them), that potential HAS to become real or the Gators will have 3 more losses this year.
UF also struggled mightily with its running backs. Tebow was hurt because no one else could run the ball (sans Harvin). USC transfer Moody better be the real deal or Tebow will get beat up again.
I see them as likely 9-3 or 10-2. I’m not sold on the young defense and the offense is too single-person-centric. With some growth on D and more emerging weapons, the Gators could be in Miami in early January.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Irish -
Was that in the Spread Offense article in the College Preview? I’ve been meaning to read that for about two weeks.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm
@KC- yes it was
August 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm
dan shanoff thinks you are underestimating the gators
August 21st, 2008 at 1:39 pm
67% passing, 32 TD’s to 6 INT’s as a soph in the SEC ain’t bad. 2nd in the nation in passing efficiency, 1st in YPA. I don’t think many LB’s could pull that off. Nor Michigan QB’s.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pm
ohio = football coach mecca
August 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Hawaii is awful on the mainland.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Again, TBL should do an expose on how hot his wife is.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pm
@NSR
Yeah, most Michigan QB’s don’t play in the SEC so very few could pull those stats off.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
@cool rick- that is twice you said Meyers wife is hot. Where is a pic for proof? link it up
August 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
jim kelly (one time penn state linebacker recruit)
August 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Their defense wasn’t that bad. Troy tacked on 24 2nd half points after the game was in hand. Other than that they struggled with Kentucky who scored on everybody and Georgia and Michigan put up big numbers on them. That was about it.
They gave up 5 more ppg than LSU did and they were #33 in YPG allowed. That’s not terrible.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
made true
August 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
I’m really disappointed that there have been 50+ comments and no mention of this.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Ask and ye shall receive
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/36/362203.jpg
http://www.ghfc.com/shelley/
August 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
NSR – did you see the SEC stats?
http://secsports.com/new/sports/fbc/07stats/confldrs.htm
last in the SEC (13 of 13) against the pass
7th in total defense (of 13)
1st against the rush
August 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
jim kelly (one time penn state linebacker recruit)
MR. Machine Gun Kelly to you
/Bills fan
August 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Sorry miz. I try to avoid talking about circumcision in my daily life.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
would it cheer you up if we all dressed up in hunting gear and sang rocky top?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
NSR, but in the 4 losses he was quite average. How can you say their D wasn’t that bad, they gave up less than 20 points 3 whole times last year.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
It is obvious Meyers wife is from Ohio and not Florida. She isnt that hot
August 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
that would be mighty nice of you!
August 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
+ ∞ Spence…
August 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
can’t be from Ohio. she’s not fat and wearing a hoodie.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
You know how I know you’re gay? You know these things. Gabe Ruth.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
wow; that’s gonna skew the Top Commenter tally
August 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
listen to the man, irish…he tells it like it is
August 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Those arent the BG photos. Oh well. If any of our wifes look like that after popping out three kids, the world is better.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pm
you’re a good sport, spence.
+JS
August 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
- ∞ , spence.
Just to even things up.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
@TBL- how much of that Oklahoma Kool aid are you drinking? top 3 huh?
August 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pm
god damnit, Nick.
irish…i got a feeling TBL has Oklahoma no. 1. and i don’t necessarily disagree with him. OU’s O and D-lines are unreal this year.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
This post fails sans some Godzilla Pillsbury goodness.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
TBL’s top three:
1. Oklahoma
2. UGA
3. USC
August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Spence – I think TBL will have Michigan #1.
/View from Ann Arbor Country Club
August 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
He struggled against Michigan and LSU. But overall in the three losses he was 63-108 with 7 TD’s and only 2 INT’s. It’s not like he was Boeckman awful in the losses.
I don’t care if Fla Atl. and Tenn score 20 points when Fla puts up 59.
I also think defensive statistics need to change. They shouldn’t be overall stats. Instead it should be far under did you hold your collective opponents under (or over) their season averages. I don’t think that would help Florida’s cause though.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pm
oklahoma vs. ohio state/usc winner for national title.
August 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pm
how’s the course?
August 21st, 2008 at 2:00 pm
If I remember correctly, Tennessee got 7 of those points as a result of a pick-6 via Eric Berry off of Tebow. only allowing 13 points to Tennessee last year was fairly impressive.
/throws up in mouth a little
August 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I’m undecided on who I want to see Auburn play in the SEC Champ. game…UF (who we’ve owned since 2001) or UGA for a second time in one year.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Damn you. Fortunately, wrong order
August 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Playboy has Oklahoma # 1, so the company TBL would be keeping wouldn’t be that bad.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I’ll go ahead and tell you the outcome of the SEC champ. game. UT beats Auburn for a second time in 2008.
/gamesmanship
August 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pm
TBL…really, what other 3 teams could be in the top if UF and OSU have already been covered? it doesnt take a genius to figure out who’s left.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pm
No way TBL is picking a midwestern team as #1.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pm
snooty, snobby and better than anything in Columbus.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pm
lucky, dyslexic guess.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
@ miz: had to step out for a second, but I was just kiddin’… I know UT fans don’t always wear hunting gear.
/hunter
August 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Ohio State’s golf course > Ann Arbor Country Club
August 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
@spencer – shhhhh, allow me to bask in my TBL-perceived genius for a minute
August 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
irish…i got a feeling TBL has Oklahoma no. 1. and i don’t necessarily disagree with him. OU’s O and D-lines are unreal this year
OK crushed the U last year, 51-13 in Norman. Trust me, i think OK is a damn good team. The Big 12 is stacked this year
August 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
that was funny…but seriously, columbus has scioto CC, memorial, and the scarlet and gray course…all of which are top notch.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
may hit the range today. golfing saturday, need major work with the driver.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
@August – I’ll have to remember to check out the pic at home (Reason for restriction: Administrative Custom List settings). damn firewall.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
miz: I keep forgetting you have a lot of sites blocked at work… damn it…
August 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
@spence: The rough is way too thick, and the view is terrible.
Oh wait, those are Michigan’s co-eds.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
TBL, just hit 3 Iron of the tee. It will save a lot of strokes if the driver’s wild.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Didn’t something very similar to that happen in 2004?
/s/ Reality
August 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
stay in rhythm and don’t let your lower body race ahead.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Nick…good one, tho i think i threw up a little on the inside.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
I like going to the golfing range and aiming for that asshole in the cart picking up balls. good times
August 21st, 2008 at 2:11 pm
@spence… Don’t forget to add Pinnacle CC to that list of C-bus courses. That place is the shiznit…
August 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Spence don’t forget Double Eagle and The Golf Club in Columbus. Both are mainstays in the top 100 in America.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
The Big 12 is stacked this year
You’re right irish. 10 of 12 starting QB’s are back from last year. And last year the Big 12 was the highest ranking passing conference in the last 25 years.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
yea, columbus rocks for golf…hell, ohio in general does, except for the fact the season is way too short.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Defense wins Championships. There is a reason Texas Tech plays in the Alamo Bowl every year.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Per capita – Ohio has nothing on Alabama for golf.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
closing bridges around here…gotta go
August 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
that’s true. my cuz lived in alabama and, while he wasnt an avid golfer, he did do a trip on the RT Jones golf trail and said i gotta go down there for a week or two.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Damn meetings. I missed all the fun. Also, I don’t think there is any doubt TBL has UGA #1.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
you Florida folks be safe!
August 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Sean Jean…eh, i dunno. georgia isn’t the best team tho, that’s fo sho, esp without sturdivant.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
@rittyrich…
I would agree with that comment. 5 days on the Trail and I was sold for life.
Ohio and upstate Michigan have absolutely phenomenal courses, but the weather gets in the way. The year round thing tends to help things a bit.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
nothing is better than big met in the metroparks
August 21st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
+1 mmonasty. I used to live in Cleveland for 4 1/2 years. i loved that place down in the valley
August 21st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
mmonast…big met is fun, nice and easy. sleepy hollow is legit to, when talkin bout metroparks courses. fowlers mill, little mountain, wicked woods, boulder creek, and stonewater are pheonomenal cleveland public courses.
nothing matches up with canterbury CC tho…that place is special.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
boulder creek is awesome…back 9 is tough
August 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
where did u used to live in cleveland irish?
August 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
mmonast…hells yea. ive got a tee time there saturday morning, im juiced.
blue heron is also awesome frmo what i hear and grey hawk in elyria is fantastic, but brutally hard.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
@mmonasty- i graduated from Eds in 98. I lived with my dad and step mom in Fairview Park. I only lived there for 4 1/2 years off of W 229th near North Olmstead
August 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
spence: No doubt. Note I didn’t say “I think UGA is #1,” I just think that is who TBL is going to pick. It’s a good #1 pick though. They are somewhat worthy of it going into the season.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
blue herron is about 10 mins from me now…havent played it but everyone down here says it great
August 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Teeing them up twice this weekend in C-bus. Cooks Creek on Saturday and Scarlet on Sunday. Gonna be a good weekend…
August 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
thats cool irish, a lot of friends went to ids/ignatius
used to live in rocky river but i just moved
August 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Sean Jean…yea, they’re an elite team, but everyone’s last memory is of them waxing hawaii, so who knows how good they are against a team where their LB’s won’t outweigh the other team’s OL. but regardless, i agree, as good a no. 1 as any. in fact there are 5 teams that have a legit claim to be no. 1, and you can’t go wrong with any of em, in my eyes at least.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
any ohio guys been to windmill lakes in ravenna? it’s kent state’s home course and might as well be a shrine to ben curtis. great course, beautiful condition and pretty cheap too.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
i havent, but i think some of my friends have gone (much better golfers than i, go out a lot more)
August 21st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
@spence… Used to play there when I was in grad school (slightly pre-Ben). I liked the place, especially at the price. Greens were always excellent.
August 21st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
spence: Yep. Totally agree. I don’t think they’ll be there at year’s end, but they have as much of a right to start there as anyone.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Wally: Cook’s Creek and Scarlet is a good weekend. I was a member at Scarlet for 5 years. Had to give it up when I moved out here. One of the things I truly miss about Columbus.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
slcbuckeye…utah has some elevation right? how much farther do you hit the ball in the thin air?
August 21st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
It is not as dramatic as you would think and that includes playing in Park City. The negative effect of playing at sea level (like South Carolina) is greater than the positive effect of playing at 5000-7000 ft. On full irons there is probably a half club distance. Driver maybe an extra 10-15 yards. Where you really notice it is on pitch shots. A Half swing pitch can travel 80 yards.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
interesting.
only reason i ask is cuz i remember bubba watson hitting a 450 yard drive at the international in colorado…figured it would make a little more of a difference than that.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I think you’re right but with the injury to Sturdivant (which is gigantic) and the loss of Sutherland for the first 4-5 games I don’t see any way UGA gets to 11 wins before the bowl game.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
August 21st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
A lot of those mountain courses have changes in elevation which increases the distance more than the thin air. I am not certain of the hole he did it on, but I am sure that had some effect. I have had a couple of drives over 350 since I have been out here, but change in elevation has been a big part of it.
Salt Lake is an underrated golf destination and cheap. There are a number of nice courses for $40 that includes a cart.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
b12 is great because of oklahoma…sure. but texas, tech, kansas, mizzou? really? none of those teams are any good except for maybe mizzou and nebraska is miles away from being relevant again.
and why does the b10 get knocked for losing bowl games but the b12 gets a free pass when theyve been losing for longer?
August 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pm
slc…yea, i have family in park city that keep bugging me to make the trip out and they say there’s some good golf in that area for dirt cheap.
oh, and the hole i was referring to had a WAY elevated tee box.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Irish, that was me for roughly 10 years at the Fabulous Berkshire Hills on Cleveland’s East side!
Windmill Lakes is fantastic, and has the best proshop over, discounted Calloways like you wouldn’t believe.
And may I suggest Little Mountain and Signature of Solon. Way too many courses in Northeast Ohio with all the terrible weather!
August 21st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Anyone realize that Graham Harrell threw for 5700 yards last year? just sayin
August 21st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
cursed…ah berkshire…
signature of solon is a fantastic course as well, but it’s pretty private.
and you’re right about there being a glut of golf courses in NE Ohio when there’s really only 5 mos of golf weather.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
If you go to Park City play Wasatch (the Mountain) and the Soldier Hollow (the gold course). If you can find some way to get on Promonotory (Nicklaus) or Glenwild your trip is complete. I have not been able to play the last two yet, even though my wife’s boss is a member at Promonotory. That should be arranged soon.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Big 12 overrated, its good, but they play absolutely no defense, they make the Pac10 look tough. All of the Texas teams massively underachieve, Texas should be in the title game every 3-4 years. Kansas will quickly return to bottom feeder status. OU is the only team that does anything, and they can’t win a bowl game.
irish lived in the clev city huh, another piece of the puzzle falls into place. How can you have such LeBron hatred, you’re allowed to adopt him and the cavs without being a bandwagon fan, its the only benefit of having lived in this shithole.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
How can you have such LeBron hatred
i wouldnt call it hatred. I just like to remind you Cleveland fans that Kobe is the best player in the world. Little Flying Warrior, aka Kobe Bean Bryant
August 21st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Don’t be lumping me in with “Cleveland Fans”, ick. I’m a LeBron fan, which means I’m currently a Cavs fan, thats it. I legally adopted them when I was forced to move here. However my loyalty may falter when he/I leave in a few years.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Coop- Where did you move from?
August 21st, 2008 at 6:25 pm
slc, most recently columbus, while the buckeye-love-fest annoyed me greatly (I went to psu) the city was much more fun.