Klosterman: OJ Mayo Might Become Vernon Maxwell
NBA September 25th. 2008, 12:00pm
We’ve become a big fan of Chuck Klosterman’s work in the last year, and not just because he named-checked us in an ESPN e-ticket piece. His column in Esquire is usually obtuse, but interesting, but where he really excels is on the NBA (this is probably the best column that’s ever run in ESPN the Magazine). He did a Q&A with Randball recently, and came up with this jarring observation about OJ Mayo:
Mayo is more complex. He’ll either be awesome or useless. There is something strange about his attitude; he seems detached in a way I cannot define. He might end up being a version of Vernon Maxwell who passes well, or a [redacted] sociopath.
First, props for the obscure Vernon Maxwell reference. Second, Vernon Maxwell? Right now, OJ Mayo is wondering with anyone tangentially connected with ESPN is not a fan of his. Here are Mad Max’s transgressions, so beautifully detailed here:
- didn’t pay child support
- infected a woman with herpes
- charged with kidnapping and assault
- took his daughter to get a blood test to see if he was her father – and gave her $40 not to tell her mom (the test proved he was her father)
- failed a drug test during the NCAA tournament in 1988
- took money from an agent while at Florida, and all his records were wiped out
- Maxwell once played an awful game against Tennessee and didn’t score – later, his coach admitted that Maxwell was drunk
Guessing what Mayo will become is complex. Some might say Harold Miner because they both went to USC. But Mayo appears to be a better defensive player and a more polished offensive threat. Mayo compared himself to Deron Williams, but we disagree – he’s not nearly the same shooter or ball handler as the Jazz point guard (Mayo tried to sell himself as a PG leading up to the NBA draft because it would improve his stock with teams; he’s not an NBA point guard). We also saw a Chauncey Billups comparison, which seems like it could be accurate; but someone also mentioned Joe Forte, which might also be apt. All this disagreement is why we remain surprised Mayo went 3rd in the draft this year. We don’t see him scoring 20 a night, and we don’t know how he’ll handle not being The Man for the first time in his career.
How’s this – Alvin Robertson from the Bucks? Elite defender in the league in the late 80s, capable of scoring anywhere from 10-17 points a night, and a complimentary player who makes an All-Star game a handful of times.
‘Mad Max’ threw away talent and much more (St. Petersburg Times)
Q&A with Chuck Klosterman (Randball)
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September 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I have a feeling Klosterman is going to have a building named after him on campus, or at lease he should.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3608488
Threadjack:
Browns can’t win so they play dirty
September 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
im gonna tell my mom you took me to a black peoples hospital
September 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
wow. ive got a new favorite athlete
September 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
this was a great post…
i dunno, im high on OJ Mayo, i think he’ll be pretty damn solid in the pros, but not near the hype. but vernon maxwell? shit, son, you gotta be CRAZY to be compared to mad max.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Joe Forte? man, i havent heard that name in a long time
Miracle Whip > Mayo
September 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Klosterman is a good read, but I have a feeling I couldn’t stand being around him. It’s kind of like a good rock band you enjoy, but after reading or watching interviews with the band members, you realize you’d rather read the annotated writings of Tori Spelling than have a beer with him.
/3rd Person Klostermanized.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I’m not sure what this guy excels at other than being athletic and looking like Sam Mitchell at the NBA Draft. What is going to make him so good?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
you havent heard fortes name because he got dropped by whatever nba team he was playing for when he sucked and got arrested on gun charges.
but hey, duke doesnt produce any good nba talent so forte gets a clear pass on sucking
September 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Get’s a pass from who? Everyone says Forte sucked in the pros.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
cbh…so accusations mean the browns are guilty?
OH MY GOD!! SOMEONE GOT HURT PLAYING FOOTBALL!! THE OTHER TEAM MUST BE PLAYING DIRTY!!
lets see the proof.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
the program gets a pass, noone ever talks about unc producing people that sucked in the nba, but whenever a duke player fails its a big deal
September 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
i just really hate joe forte, he was fucking unstoppable in college
September 25th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
moleman…that’s because UNC has had more than 3 players who haven’t sucked total ass in the pros.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
its not 2000 anymore, that argument is totally fraudulent
September 25th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
you’re going to have to be more specific than ‘pretty damn solid’
Forte was a fool to leave school – but he left UNC, not duke, i think
September 25th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Hahha, I just did it to rile you up Spencer, I’m an ass.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
*makes hand over head motion*
*woosh*
September 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
its not 2000 anymore, that argument is totally fraudulent
/Josh McRoberts says hello from the D-League, JJ Reddick says hello from the Orlando Magic bench
September 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
should the ravens be accusing anyone of being dirty?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Fargo Rock City- Fantastic Klosterman book.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
i think he’ll be a poor man’s joe johnson with less offense but a lot more D. something like 15-17 ppg/6 ast/5 reb with some streaky games where he drops huge points.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
The state of Ohio obviously hates Willis McGahee.
Sincerely,
Will Allen, The Cleveland Browns, et al.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
cbh…is this all because of my anti-cal ripken stance?
September 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I have a Joseph Forte UNC #40 jersey. Im a douche.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
luol deng, carlos boozer, elton brand, maggette all say hello from being very good nba players. dunleavy says hello from being a good scorer on a shitty team. battier says hello from being one of the better defensive players in the league. jay williams says zoom zoom zoom
September 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Haha not really, it’s more because you told me to fall on a knife.
/sincere
September 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Fraggle Rock > Fargo Rock
/Clown’d
September 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
maggette
Spagehtti>Maggette
September 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Well said, Tampa. +1
September 25th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
I’m pretty sure Mad Max also once lured a teammate into the weight room to settle a dispute and clonked him over the head with a dumbbell when he wasn’t looking.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
mad max using tactics seen only on oz, i like it.
man forte was taken before parker and arenas.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I heard Mad Max banged Cal Ripken’s wife and Dusty Baker’s daughter… at the same time, and turned the lights off at Camden Yards.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
luol deng, carlos boozer, elton brand, maggette all say hello from being very good nba players. dunleavy says hello from being a good scorer on a shitty team. battier says hello from being one of the better defensive players in the league. jay williams says zoom zoom zoom
Michael Jordan says hello while shitting on all of them.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
i have a Tim Riggins FNL jersey. Was a present, though. Wore it on the night of the Super Bowl …
September 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I wish they sold the jersey of the roid rage linebacker from The Program.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
i dont think any rational person would try to argue that duke has produced better players than carolina, however im just saying that the old argument that duke players suck in the nba isnt really true anymore. it was ten years ago sure but times have changed.
and whatever happened to shammond williams and ed cota? anyone know? i know the former was in the league at one point
September 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
weve gotta replace lattimer
September 25th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
im gonna tell my mom you took me to a black peoples hospital
You see that? That’s what you get when you don’t have health insurance.
/new episodes tonight!
September 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
cbh…fall on a knife? i think you’re overreacting. i didn’t specify WHERE you’d fall on the knife or even if it was pointy side up.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
This is in tyduffy’s wheelhouse:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/09/25/brazilian.murdered/index.html
September 25th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Orlando Brown called McGahee and told him he’d keep his eye on the developing situation
September 25th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
now that’s awesome.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
+ a bunch of somethings, jpq. we bow to your brilliance.
September 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
I love vernon maxwell, he was a crucial cog in the rockets first championship
September 25th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I fail to see what O.J. Mayo did that compares at all to what Mad Max did in his career. Has he demonstrated sociopathic behavior? If you’re gonna fluff Klosterman, TBL, at least find something he’s written that makes an iota of sense. Perhaps his old essay on the 86 Celtics? The Maxwell/Mayo comparison is completely nonsensical. In fact, the only things I can see that they have in common are 1) they’re both black, and 2) Their last names begin with the letter ‘M’
September 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Obtuse is not a compliment.
September 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
There are a zillion crazy Mad Max stories…
he drove around Sugar Land in his purple Porsche all the time. He was easy to spot. Yes, he had a *purple* car.
when he got evicted from his house… the neighbors complained of an awful smell weeks later – seems Mad Max must have distrusted garbagemen because he left a garage filled with trash and who-knows-what.
Classy guy. But he got us a ring, so he’s mostly okay in my book.