NBA Two-a-Days: Detroit Pistons
NBA October 7th. 2008, 12:45pmThree straight empty trips to the Eastern Conference finals. Four of five starters are 30 or older. Despite being mentioned in numerous potential trades this offseason, all Detroit ended up with was former No. 1 pick Kwame Brown, whose confidence is shot – technically, it was gone when Jordan called him a faggot as a rookie – but will give it a whirl nonetheless with his fourth team in eight years. The draft and its aftermath netted a couple of guys who might make the team – F Deron Washington and F/C Trent Plaisted – but aren’t expected to significantly contribute.
It must be frustrating to be Detroit GM Joe Dumars, knowing he has a 50-win team that will make the postseason but not the FInals, and also knowing that other teams – the 76ers, who surprisingly took two from Detroit in the playoffs last year, improved, as did the Raptors – improved, while Detroit couldn’t pull the trigger on anything significant.
Or is it? Here’s an absolute best-case scenario: Rodney Stuckey, who had a nice rookie campaign, and looked real strong in the Boston series, has a massive breakthrough, and is an Iverson/Chris Paul hybrid who suddenly makes Billups expendable. If the Pistons were able to deal Billups for a legit post player – Rasheed isn’t a power guy, Maxiell doesn’t have the moves, nor does McDyess – think a Boozer or Amare-type presense, Detroit could make a run at another title. And yes, we’re fully aware that Amare isn’t getting dealt, Brand isn’t either, and the Jazz already have a PG in Deron Williams.
Detroit: Anywhere from 47-53 wins, seeded somewhere in the 2-6 range in the playoffs, and an elimination in probably the second round.
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October 7th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Finished. Next.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
I agree with your final statement.
I don’t see anyone giving up a Boozer or Amare-type for Billups. Nor do I see Stuckey being a Paul/Iverson-type. Maybe more of a Leandro Barbosa.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
haha
October 7th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Detroit will still win their division
Next.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
pistons suck.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Could they trade Billups for a Zach Randolph? Would they? How about Lamar Odom? Phil Jackson seems to like big PG’s. I’m just not sure this team will be able to make any moves. I’m not really convinced they should make any moves.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
stuckey obviously won’t be THAT good – that’s ultimate best case scenario. i do think they should try to move billups and begin rebuilding without gutting the core.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
It would be very foolish of the Lakers to trade Lamar, but I think they might. I’m hoping they do.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
The Pistons are a deep team. Maxiell, Stuckey and Amir Johnson will come off the bench and be productive.
It is hard to believe Sheed is 34 years old
October 7th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
NSR – interesting on randolph. he and rasheed would be hell for any coach … but combined, that’d be a great tandem. then again, would the knicks want billups?
i do believe the alternative is winning games, but not being a ‘contender’ and ultimately, getting older without ‘rebuilding.’
October 7th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
at least the East Finals, again. They are still that much better. Cavs suck a dick. back to work.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Stuckey is good, but he’s no Pargo.
/CRM’d
October 7th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
I want randolph nowhere near my team.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I don’t think Lamar is a good fit for the Lakers as they are presently constituted. I think he could be a valuable player off the bench for them, but I wonder if he will embrace that role.
I think D’Antoni would like to have Billups, yes.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
What about Afflalo? I noticed they started giving him more minutes in april:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3187
Was that because of an injury or does the pistons brass see something in him?
Can someone enlighten me? Pistons fans?
October 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
beanie > ringer
cavs > pistons
October 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
What is up with Philly and Toronto being mentioned so much in these previews?
October 7th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Celtics > Cavs > Pistons > Bulls
Yay
October 7th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
@PE- I am no Piston fan, but Afflalo emerged as a defensive stopper last year for them. He should get more minutes backing up Rip
October 7th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Ringer > LeBron
Yeah, fuck with that shit dude.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
another TBL ultimate best case scenario – Rip Hamilton morphs into a MJ/Lebron hybrid.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Amir Johnson looks poised to be a starter this season. the starting lineup just got younger.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
miz-you guys miss me over there, don’t ya?
October 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I think the Pistons will be a cute little regular season team. They might even win the Central.
But if they face Lebron in the playoffs, party’s over.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
the Pistons just might end up being the most disappointing team in the NBA this year. Billups’ contract is going to be an albatross, Rasheed is great when motivated (but that’s rare), Stuckey is going to be good but he’s not an all-star, and Rip is one-dimensional.
they might limp into the playoffs since it’s the East, but they aren’t going anywhere. That window of opportunity slammed shut on Joe’s fingers.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Amir Johnson in starting line up: check.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
last i checked, neither was Billups, Hamilton, or Prince back in 2004.
since when does scoring 20pts per game, while getting 4 assists per game as someone who does not initiate the offense, and playing solid man to man defense qualify a player as one-dimensional? if you are using some new definition of one-dimensional, please let me know.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
@sparty – hells yeah, man.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
No NBA fans on Jeopardy
Thought it was funny hearing Trebek say “Hibachi”
October 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
It’s killing me.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
What basis do Cleveland fans as a whole have to predict their teams will do anything but promote misery and suffering for everyone around them? The Cavs will eat a dick again, not only because they suck as a team, but because they are from the state of Ohio….end of story.
West, Bell, Szczerbiak and 2 Big Bad Feet…don’t scare me at all (none of them would start for Detroit or maybe Chicago besides Bell). Mark Price, Craig Ehlo and Brad “Nascar” Daughtry aren’t walking through that door…..
Ohio sports teams fans predicting winning is like O.J predicting the Justice system will go easy on him this time. Complete lunacy
October 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Go Pistons.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
that was a great rant
October 7th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I agree with everything stated about ohio fans “predicting” anything about michigan teams. Just stop already, everyone knows you are biased and stupid. Your predictions are bullshit. The Pistons are not going to be better than they were, that is for sure. They are another year older and five years of getting nearly nobody in the draft takes a toll. Amir will be decent, Stuckey is over-rated (that is hard to be in your second year), Afflol is a deffensive stopper. The core is older and less productive than it was. And now they have a “players coach” meaning they will have less discipline and will try to play “me ball” all day. Look for this team to make a significant step down. I have been a Pistons fan since I was a very young child. I went to games in 89 when I was 6 years old, to give you a non-ohio perspective on it.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Maggs-Players Coach? He already has instilled more discipline than Flip ever did. The guys on the team have already recognized that. Why are you lowering the bar? So you are not disappointed if they do poorly? They are no worse than they were last year. Stuckey is overrated? WTF? How so? Please do not speak for Pistons fans. I am in no way saying they are the favorites to win anything, but to write them off like that is ridiculous.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
I agree with most of what Maggs said. But i am with Sparty on this one about Stuckey not being overrated. I witnessed him murder my Magic in the playoffs. that kid is good, real good
October 7th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Write them off? When did I write them off? They will be fine in the leastern conference. And yes Curry is a players coach. He will instill less discipline, the players will LIKE HIM MORE and HAVE BETTER THINGS TO SAY ABOUT HIM TO THE MEDIA, but that doesn’t mean they will have more discipline. As for Stuckey… you are watching with your red, white and blue glasses on Sparty, he isn’t an above average point guard and won’t be, that is my opinion and you can always agree to disagree. Just like when I say Ringer sucks and the only reason he has all those stats is because they damn sure can’t have that “QB” throwing the ball in a game. See, you didn’t agree with me there either, doesn’t mean it isn’t true, just that you see the world through your green and white shades on in that aspect. Rip lost it last year. Rasheed is a shell of his former self due to his age/kness. Billups wanted to leave last year, he might be able to do some things with the contract motivation. Prince has got to be about 3 years older than his actual age due to playing the most play-off games ever to start a career, but he will still be good. These are just the opinions of a die hard Piston fan who has watched the team for 19 years. No big deal if you don’t agree. The best thing for them to do in my opinion is to sell high on any and all of Rip, Sheed, Billups and see if they can’t sign a young stud or take the season as a loss and get a nice draft pick. This teams best days are well behind it.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I do agree with moving Billups. but because Stuckey can be a star.
Having Amir in the lineup is going to motivate Sheed,he loves playing with the kids.
Ringer>Wells>Michigan
October 7th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Pistons were a couple poor shooting qtrs from the finals….I see nothing to think they won’t be in exactly the same place at least. Posey was a considerable piece of that Celtics team. He now plays in the West. Pistons might be getting older, but so are the Celtics.
Hopefully Darius Miles brings his wayward ways to the Celtics and makes it easy on the rest of the East. Although I think KG might eat him before that happens
October 7th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Once I am proven correct about Stuckey, will you eat your parents?
October 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
sure, maggs.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
memo to Sparty: It’s not 2004 anymore. And Larry Brown ain’t walkin’ through that door.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Neither is Karl Malone or Gary Payton circa 2004 unfortunately……so a finals shot is the best case scenario
October 7th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
you missed the point.