Ballin’: Shaq’s Hard Foul; Oden’s Big Weekend
NBA November 17th. 2008, 9:45am
Detroit 86, Phoenix 104: First, view the foul that got Shaq ejected. Now, his quote: “The law of physics states that a body in motion stays in motion. And if you have two objects that meet in the air, the smaller object is going to fall much harder at the same rate of speed it was going. I’ve never been the type of player to take anyone out. I was going for the ball.” Phoenix shot .569 from the field, and .571 from the foul line.
Miami 96, Toronto 107: Seven players scored in double figures, led by Bosh’s 27, and the Raptors dominated the glass (52-35) to win at home. D Wade scored 29 points on 31 shots. Calderon missed the game with a hammy issue; Clemson’s Will Solomon had 14 points and 11 assists in an Anthony Morrow-like performance.
Orlando 90, Charlotte 85: Despite more blocks (five) than points (four) from Dwight Howard, and nary a basket in 26-fouled plagued minutes, the Magic improved to 7-3.
Dallas 124, New York 114, OT: The Knicks were close to going 7-3 before collapsing at the end of regulation and then missing every shot it attempted in overtime. The Dallas run was 19-2 over the final seven minutes of the game. Zach Randolph had his eighth straight double-double, but he was outdone by Dirk’s 39-15 and Josh Howard’s 31-14.
Minnesota 84, Denver 90: The T-Wolves lost their eighth in a row to fall to 1-8, but the last four defeats have all come by six points or less. Two of their other losses are by three and four points. We continue to worry about former Florida star Corey Brewer, who didn’t start for the first time this season and still can’t shoot straight (38 percent). Then again, neither can rookie Kevin Love (38 percent).
Also worth nothing: Greg Oden had a good game Friday (11 points, 11 rebounds, four blocks) and another solid effort Saturday (13 points, eight rebounds, three blocks). This was a sweet dunk. This block was reminiscent of a young Shaq. Before you mock those totals, Oden hasn’t yet played 25 minutes in a game. He’s going to make a lot of knee-jerk clowns look silly.
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November 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
You guys will be getting the moleman treatment his whole career. Eat a dick.
/TBL
November 17th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Who did Shaq
November 17th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Who did Shaq foul?
November 17th, 2008 at 9:50 am
glad to see d’antoni’s fantastic no-rebound, no-defense strategy is still rockin’ as usual.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:51 am
/waits for Irish to rationalize Howard’s poor game against Charlotte while ripping TBL’s Oden love
November 17th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Hedo had 20 points to lead four Magic players with 15-plus points, as Orlando won its third straight (all on the road) and seventh in eight games.
TBL- i understand your love of Greg Oden. I do. It is just too bad the center i root for pwns the one you root for.
For all the publicity Greg Oden has gotten despite playing in just a couple NBA games, Howard has played in all 336 possible since being drafted first overall in the 2004 draft out of Southwest Atlanta Christian Academy. He has outgrown his initial desire to convert every player in the NBA to his version of Christianity. And he’s not the same naive kid that walked in the door after his four-plus seasons and Olympic experiences with the rest of the more savvy young stars.
But he’s generally unassuming in personality and in a lot of ways, still a kid — a huge one at that with more athleticism in such a big man than we’ve seen in many years. So as you think of MVP candidates when the spring rolls around, he’ll be right there near the top of the list. He won’t win it this year and maybe not next year, but he’ll be getting a lot of votes along the way, and everybody will know who he is, whether the Magic ever win the Eastern Conference or not.
Javale McGee > Greg Oden
November 17th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Stuckey. Saw that highlight, dudes chin bounces off the floor. Didnt think it was “ejection” worthy.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:55 am
The version that believes in out of wedlock children?
November 17th, 2008 at 9:58 am
I think TBL should’ve given Irish an one-liner for that. Wow.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:58 am
A one-liner. For frack’s sake. My Gods.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:00 am
@bsanders- Were you not the dumb Pacers fan on here saying they would make it into the playoffs this year? how is that working out for them?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Shaq devoured Stuckey
November 17th, 2008 at 10:02 am
bsanders, you have an copy editor for when you do an Gossip Girl recap?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:02 am
6-4!
i’ll pretend like i didnt read this.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:02 am
isnt that because he knocked up a cheerleader?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Irish
- I’m a Bulls fan, but I will cop to saying that I thought the Pacers would make the playoffs. Oops.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Howard is probably still shaking off the nuts Rudy Fernandez put on his chin in the Olympics.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:07 am
cool_rick
+1
November 17th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Nick P was right about Atlanta. FRAUD CITY USA
Orlando has taken over the division lead from the Frauds from Atlanta
November 17th, 2008 at 10:10 am
lets not pretend a 4-5 team is in anyway precluded from playoff discussion in the east
November 17th, 2008 at 10:10 am
@cool rick- the self proclaimed lawyer of the site, your jokes are hilarious. please more
November 17th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Are you gonna start crying because Dwight Howard had a bad game and he did get posterized in the Olympics? Good god man.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:13 am
lets not pretend a 4-5 team is in anyway precluded from playoff discussion in the east
just like Greg Paulus is starting for Duke. GO READ ESPN and learn a few things
November 17th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Atlanta’s done. I was and am still on Indy’s wagon, though. They’re only a 1/2 game out of the playoffs.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:16 am
if you could point me to the article on ‘ESPN’ that says the pacers arent making the playoffs i would appreciate it
two teams in the east made the playoffs with losing records last year. one had a losing record and one 500 the year before that. to count anyone out in the east is retarded
and i was right about the paulus thing i dont see why you retards cant grasp that
November 17th, 2008 at 10:19 am
@moleman- let me know where i said they were “counted out”. read the comments.
idiots on here
November 17th, 2008 at 10:21 am
i guess calling someone dumb for saying the pacers were going to make the playoffs doesnt mean anything similar to saying the pacers wont make the playoffs
i would like to know what i should be reading on ESPN about this though
November 17th, 2008 at 10:21 am
/waits for Irish to rationalize Howard’s poor game against Charlotte while ripping TBL’s Oden love
i love comments like this. people are so bored with their own life, they have to sit around and see what i have to say.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:22 am
hey i meant to ask this in the past irish, what are the odds howard can contend for the career rebounds record?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:22 am
anyone still banking on Philly? they have yet to look good.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:24 am
yeah, people are so bored with thier lives they type up 5 paragraph essays defending Dwight Howard. I hate those bored fuckers.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:25 am
I don’t think I was dumb to say the Pacers would make the playoffs (they still have a decent chance), but I do think I was a bit ahead of myself in saying they were going to get a top-6 seed in the East. Either way, I want Joakim Noah off the Bulls. I can’t stand that fucker.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:26 am
eh i dont think anyone has to defend howard considering hes averaging 16 and 12 for his career thus far and oden has had like three good games, not really any sort of comparison to be made between their performances
November 17th, 2008 at 10:27 am
@rick- unlike you, i post comments about the post. TBL loves basketball and so do i. It is one of the reasons why i hang out on here. If he doesnt have a problem with me posting on here, i could care less what you think about my 5 paragraph essay
November 17th, 2008 at 10:27 am
irish is on FI-AH!
Must be already tailgating getting ready for MNF
GO BILLS!
November 17th, 2008 at 10:28 am
hey i meant to ask this in the past irish, what are the odds howard can contend for the career rebounds record
let me change my nickname to MR. Odds maker and get back to you
November 17th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Then why the personal attack? My posts were about the post. They were just crtical of DHO and you went into a tissy, as usual.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Screw Shaq. It was a cheap shot on a small player. He was not going for the ball, he was going for Stuckey’s head.
I wish Rasheed or somebody had given Shaq a punch to the back of the head. He deserves a suspension. He can act goofy to make the media lose their train of thought all he wants, but he is an ass.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:32 am
@rick- listen, that is the third or fourth time you have brought that up on here on purpose with the intention to get a rise out of me. Am i wrong?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:33 am
way to be a cock when i was just asking about your guy. you seem to know him better than anyone on here i just wanted to know what you thought about him getting close to wilts record
November 17th, 2008 at 10:34 am
So admit that Rudy Fernandez put his balls in Howard’s mouth and move on. Acceptance is the first step.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Dude, fuck that. He was going for the ball. The Suns were up by 16 when he fouled Stuckey, what value is there in killing a guy when you’re already dominating the other team? He jumped toward the ball with both hands. I heard one guy say it’s a flagrant if you stand still, don’t leave your feet and don’t go for the ball. Shaq did the exact opposite of all of those things.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:34 am
@moleman- catch me when i am in a better mood. today is not the time. sorry
November 17th, 2008 at 10:36 am
How is bringing up Rudy Fernandez dunking on Dwight Howard being critical of Howard? It would be like bringing up Hakeem getting dunked on by KJ when discussing his career.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:37 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47VLce11WDM&feature=related
There you go. Nuts in the mouth, and no, this isnt a Santonio Holmes post.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am
11cool_rick Says:
August 25th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Howard was already rotating to cover up Kobe’s poor steal attempt. You really think Howard was guarding Fernandez? Did you even watch the game?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
Sorry Irish but that is nuts in the mouth.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I hate these bored fuckers. Nice work. Still, the video evidence lead to the conclusion that DHO has chinnuts.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:44 am
http://thebiglead.com/?p=7317
Rick read #11 and #15
@BO- i could care less bro
November 17th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Rick is on here today talking so much shit about that dunk. Back in August he was on here defending the “nuts in the mouth”. Once again, proves my point that he comes on here with the intention to instigate. suck it rick
November 17th, 2008 at 10:48 am
So people are “bored” or “losers” if they post anything you dont like, but they are cool and not bored if they go through posts from 5 months ago and like Dwight Howard? Nice world you live in, Burger King world, where you have it your way all the time.
/
chinnuts
November 17th, 2008 at 10:51 am
cool_rick Says:
August 25th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
My comment was to the guy who said LeBron should have stopped him. Yes, Dwight Howard got posterized. But to come on here, with no frame of reference, having simply viewed a shitty video feed, and say what should have happened is retarded.
go read a book because you got pwned
November 17th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Oh, and good for you coming up with hypotheses of why I post. Real good use of time, nice to know you think of me in your spare time.
/
chinnuts
November 17th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Ah, what a funny thread. Can’t you guys just slap balls to face and get along?
November 17th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I think Howard got owned. And he sucks, as does the whole city of Orlando.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:55 am
you guys are getting a divorce arent you? oh well, two christmases!
November 17th, 2008 at 10:56 am
If you would have done this much research in college you wouldnt be working at the Tuffy in Orlando.
/
Howard has spanish spluge on his face
November 17th, 2008 at 10:57 am
@bsanders: Ah, what a funny thread. Can’t you guys just slap balls to face and get along?
Remember, it’s going to be a looooonnnngggg week. You’ve got Cleveland/Buffalo tonight, and Michigan/Ohio State on Saturday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMfr2CgIPhg
November 17th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Yikes. Well, I’m just waiting for the “who’s going to win their third NFL MVP this year, Warner or Manning?”
/unapologetic homer
November 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Warner.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Warner, and not even close (unless he plays like 2004 NYG Kurt Warner the rest of the year)
November 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
whats the weather gonna be like tonight in Buff? i hope its not like last years cleve/buff game (which i went to)
November 17th, 2008 at 11:08 am
There’s still six games left, fellas. And don’t forget to go back and look at the schedules they’ve faced, and the fact Manning had two knee surgeries just prior to the start of the season. Warner plays in a division where the other teams are something like 5-23.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:12 am
mmonast
- Seriously hope you guys pull it out tonight, the Colts are going to need some help getting that #5 seed.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:13 am
you guys are getting a divorce arent you? oh well, two christmases!
This was my MO in trying to get my parents to get a divorce.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Less than half the games have been against the NFC West. Warner hasn’t had a bad game this year. Weak argument sanders.
/still best friends?
November 17th, 2008 at 11:15 am
You guys arent talking about the topic of the post. Me and TBL are friends and this isnt allowed.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:16 am
wait you guys arent really talking about peyton being the mvp are you?
November 17th, 2008 at 11:20 am
moleman
- Wait until the season’s over. He’ll likely end up with 4,000 yards (again), 28-30 TD passes (again) and a QB rating of 95+ (again). Having faced a killer schedule and being hobbled to begin the season, working with a patchwork offensive line and with a relative lack of other candidates (Warner, and ?) he has to be near the top of the list. At least he will be.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am
browns win…
warner > peyton
/this year
November 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Manning will be near the top of the list behind Warner and Portis.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am
whats the weather gonna be like tonight in Buff? i hope its not like last years cleve/buff game (which i went to)
Snow and cold. Hopefully not like that blizzard you sat through
http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/496225.html
November 17th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Hey, you can’t blame a guy for trying to start a grassroots Internet campaign.
/Trying to prevent Warner and Favre from being the only three-time MVP’s in NFL history.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:26 am
boo…QB rating is WORTHLESS
peyton’s good, but he’s going to be behind warner’s ridiculous, pinball stats. ive long said, even during brady’s season last year, that there’s no better QB in football than peyton, but he’s not winning it this year.
he’s obviously the MVP from a rational fan’s point of view, but the idiots with the votes will probably go towards the gaudy stats and we both know this. hell, you should know this from bob sanders getting the DPOY last year when he wasn’t deserving.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am
that blizzard was fuckin awesome.
/watched from home…warm, comfy home.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Spencer
- Yeah, I know he won’t win it this year. Had he been healthy from the start, who knows, but that’s just an excuse. Sanders probably didn’t deserve DPOY of the year last year, but he’s still the biggest defensive difference maker in the league. Mainly because he cleans up all the Colts’ CB’s and LB’s mistakes. See Rosenfail’s 60-yard play-action bomb against an out-of-position Melvin Bullitt for further evidence.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:32 am
was actually pretty money being there…felt bad for the people in the top deck, driving home to the west side was an adventure to say the least
November 17th, 2008 at 11:35 am
he’s obviously the MVP from a rational fan’s point of view, but the idiots with the votes will probably go towards the gaudy stats and we both know this.
spencer: do you think The Cardinals would be playing anywhere near this well if Leinert was back there (or Warner was not having this kind of season?)Seems u and bsanders are overemphasizing Peyton & underestimating Warner’s years. Granted, Peyton is having a good (not great) season, and is playing better by the week.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Irish, I love you man, but why are you always quoting other articles and making them sound like yours?
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November 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am
@mmomast: I remember many a game in Rich (now Ralph) freezing my ass off in the snow and wind (although not the amount of snow like your game). Now I’m in South Florida, where the high today is a blustery 73 and people are walking around in fur coats and sweaters! pussies!
The 51-3 Raiders AFC Championship game was brutal….for the Raiders
November 17th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Just so we’re clear: Dwight Howard can have a couple poor games but is still the greatest center of our lifetimes. Greg Oden has two bad games after missing a season due to injury, and he’s a fraud no matter what numbers he puts up subsequently.
Thanks Irish!
November 17th, 2008 at 11:42 am
i still go with haynesworth. what he’s done to opposing OL’s is incredible. kris jenkins this year. sanders is great though, don’t get me wrong.
not really sure, it’s a valid question though. then again, if peyton was throwing 45-50 times per game, wouldn’t he have better stats?
it’s a split decision because i really like warner too. but it’s all the variables that makes me more impressed with peyton’s season so far. sure, he hasn’t been 2004 peyton, but he doesn’t have ‘quan and fitz to throw to, his line has been makeshift all year because of injury and hasn’t had a consistent running game like warner has had.
it wouldn’t be the worst decision ever if warner wins MVP, my vote would go to peyton tho. and since i don’t have a vote then i guess this is just hot air.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Wow.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:42 am
@ Captain Pants: Don’t go accusing Irish like that. Maybe he is Mike Kahn.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Referring to his pass rushing or his curb stomping?
November 17th, 2008 at 11:45 am
curb stomping.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:46 am
@braveSR- in my eyes, Oden does not deserve all the publicity he is receiving. In your eyes, he deserves it. so we disagree.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:47 am
i still go with haynesworth. what he’s done to opposing OL’s is incredible.
Referring to his pass rushing or his grill stomping?
/made accurate
//agree w/ spencer on Haynesworth
November 17th, 2008 at 11:48 am
It really depends on what happens the last six games of the year. The Colts offense seems to finally be coming together (yesterday’s game was the fourth straight they started the same o-line), Addai went over the 100-mark for the first time in 17 games Sunday, and the Colts schedule eases up considerably now. Then again, Warner has the Cardinals in contention for a first-round bye and may throw for 35 TD’s and 4,500 yards in doing so.
Haynesworth is a force, though. I’d kill for the Colts to cut Marvin in the offseason and restructure a few contracts to sign his face-stomping ass.
November 17th, 2008 at 11:50 am
jpq the bad weather games are the best…i just want good weather tonight so i can see quin throw since thats all i have to look forward to in re: to the rest of the browns season
that and celebrating when romeo is canned
November 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
@captain- yes, i did take that article and post it on here. Next time i will use quotations because i can never use the link tag properly because it effects my pop up blocker. I honestly thought it was obvious by the seperation and the proper usage of grammar.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
No problem, I didn’t mean to come across as accusatory, it just made me laugh. And I’m going to be in Orlando in a month, are the Magic games all sold out this year, or do I have a chance to get a couple of tickets?
November 17th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
@captain- trust me, i can tell on here who is giving me a hard time and who isnt. keeps me on my toes
I dont think you will have any problem finding tickets to the game down here. Here is the Magic website to help you out
http://www.OrlandoMAgic.com
November 17th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Yeah I went there, but it kept saying it couldn’t find any tickets. Maybe it’s Firefox, I haven’t tried IE yet. I’m going to the Magic game here in Portland in December, but I’m thinking I want to see Orlando vs. LA or NO when I’m down there.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
NO is christmas or christmas eve. one of those
LA is 12/20. let me check a few websites out and if i find anything, i will post it on here addressed to you
November 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
@captain- here you go. let me know how it turns out
Are you going to be visiting the Orlando area soon? Whether you are in town for business or pleasure, attending an Orlando Magic game is a great way to experience the fun and excitement of NBA basketball! If you would like to attend a game while in town, please contact Jennifer Farrell or Haley Hosch at 407-916-2255 or email us.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
email address: tourism@orlandomagic.com
November 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Awesome, thanks! I’ll give it a shot. I’m in town from the 14th till the 23rd so it looks like I have a few options.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Oh god Irish, I was atleast called out by something I wrote. You bored fucking bastard. Eat a dickup till you hiccup.
/
Spanish player dropping cum dribbles on your face
November 17th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
thanks Rick
November 17th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
@irish: Know you posted that for captain, but thanks. I want to hit a Magic game or two this year. My son is a freshman @ UCF & I wanna go up & see a game w/ him. Thanks for the info!
btw: The Heat are back to selling tix like every other team down here. Check out this special. seats for $5! (and for $7 you get a popcorn and a Pepsi). YIKES!
http://www.vividseats.com/shop/viewTickets.shtml?productionId=692271&x=44&y=11
November 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
I’ve learned today I need to start reading the Ballin comments because most of them have nothing to do with the NBA.