Hmmmm. Plax is Getting it Hard and Fast, But Bloomberg’s Wall Street Buddies Aren’t
Courts, Legal, NFL December 2nd. 2008, 9:00am
Nobody’s debating Plaxico Burress is guilty of being an idiot. When he shot himself in the thigh Friday night, he likely ruined his career, lost out on over $27 million, and all indications are that he will do jail time.
But what about the hell is with NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg? Though he’s done a fine job running Manhattan for the last few years, why’d he trash Burress yesterday?
“Our children are getting killed with guns in the street. Our police are getting killed,” the furious mayor said in demanding Burress get no special treatment for his alleged crime and coverup. “I think it would be an outrage if we didn’t prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.”
We get it - Burress is a wealthy, coddled athlete and you want to make an example out of him. Fine. Wouldn’t be the first or last time that’s happened. But Mike, just curious - why no fire and brimstone for all your Wall Street buddies? (If you haven’t read this, we highly recommend it.) Why aren’t you prosecuting those crooks to the fullest extent of the law?
(Favorite Bloomberg line of all-time, from a New Yorker profile a few years ago: “I’d like nothing more in life to have Sharon Stone sit on my face.” There’s much more, some of which can be found here.)
As for Burress, now the dilemma falls upon the Giants. What to do with the guy who is out on bail and recovering from a gun-shot wound? Can’t imagine there would be an outrage if he suits up in the playoffs - he’s much closer to cokehead Matt Jones than Rae Carruth or Mike Vick. Even though Plax plead not guilty and deserves his due process, the outlook is beyond bleak:
In what prosecutors called “a strong case,†Burress faces a mandatory sentence of 3 ½ years in state prison, with a maximum of 15 years, on each count of second-degree criminal possession of a weapon.
Wouldn’t surprise us if he were cut today … or if he healed enough that he was on the field in two weeks against Dallas.
Felony Gun Charges For Plaxico Burress (Smoking Gun)
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December 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 am
He should be arrested for being a moron. Not like he shot anyone. He does have a permit in Florida so the piece isn’t hot. Tell Bloomberg there is something called the 2nd Amendment. If Puffy got off this should be a no brainer.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 am
They won’t cut him, they wouldn’t want that salary cap hit… they can easily suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team until the league makes a ruling.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 am
Bloomberg is a dick. Thats not cool at all. This is my stance on this if Favre did it it would be cool.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 am
All I know is the dude on the left in that pic better go by “Vinnie the Toe” or something cool like that.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 am
I heard the permit expired in May - so that argument isn’t even applicable.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
@Tampa Bo - He does it metaphorically every winter. Everyone has been cool with it for years.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 am
Jake, his permit in Florida expired.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:21 am
CRM that is funny and so true. This is racism thats all how dare he come out and say this but its Plax fault for being negligent. Plax put himself in a tough spot but for Bloomberg to step in and voice his opinion is bullshit. Were talking about 3 1/2 years in prison for a mistake, he didnt do harm to anyone but himself. This 3 1/2 year minimum is excessive I think and I hate guns.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:22 am
this has nothing to do with Wall Street or the economy, so i’m glad you brought that up.
Jake, according to Roman, the gun laws in NY have gotten so strict in recent years, and the Puffy incident was in ‘99, the cases really aren’t similar whatsoever.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am
His permit expired in May. I don’t think, all things considered, the guy deserves to go to prison. But that doesn’t mean he won’t.
He is truly an idiot. His wife is a lawyer! If any NFL player has the resources to get through the NYS process for carry/conceal (or the NYC one) it’s him! Just a complete moron.
@TBL — I’m about halfway through the Michael Lewis article. Wow.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am
I’m all for having guns for protecting your home, hunting, etc., but I do think it’s reasonable for citizens to expect to go out in public and not have gunshots fired. I was at a club in Lexington a few years back when some drunk moron began firing as everyone left the club at closing time. Nobody was hurt/hit, but that situation isn’t exactly what the 2nd Amendment has in mind regardless of the legality of the weapon.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:25 am
If you were in Lexington Kentucky there’s absolutely no reason to be surprised someone got drunk and was firing a weapon Roeth …
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 am
Hey Jake, lets say I pull my gun on you and unload the entire clip, but miss on every shot. Am I free to go?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
My Brother in Law is an NYC detective and my buddy is a 5 year veteran with the NYPD…neither connected to the case…basically their feeling is Plax is fucked..the law has left very little wiggle room that even Cops have stopped carrying concealed weapons off duty, which they are now allowed to after 9/11…They also feel they are going to make Antonio Pierce and the hospital sweat for awhile simply because this is on the radar of the Mayor and the Mayor is exerting pressure on the DA and the The Captain and detectives in charge…
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 am
No that would be attempted murder. nice comparison.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
Tons of people go to jail while not doing harm to anyone. Attempted murders, drug addicts, kiddie porn addicts, etc… I can’t wrap my head around how this is racist. Is the law itself racist? Is it’s application racist? I know it would make people like Peter King much sadder, but I have to believe Favre would get arrested too.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 am
i think the argument here is that the bullet could have went off and harmed another individual.. ya the bullet hit himself that night but what happens if it hits a random person? he shouldn’t have had the gun on him in the club in the first place..
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:40 am
bingo
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
I haven’t been following this very closely but why the two counts I thought he had one gun??
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
I can’t wait for this episode of Law and Order.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 am
point: there are much bigger fish to fry in NY than a moron who shot himself. priorities.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am
I bet he pleads it down to no jail time. I’m no lawyer, but hasn’t Bloomberg seriously prejudiced the potential jury pool?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am
I can’t wrap my head around how this is racist. Is the law itself racist? Is it’s application racist? I know it would make people like Peter King much sadder, but I have to believe Favre would get arrested too.
Im just saying if Favre did this yea he would be arrested but Bloomberg would not be as outspoken as he is with Plax. The law is not racist you are missing my point. Yes people should be arrested but not sent to jail for 3 1/2 years this is so Raganessque.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 am
two counts, one cup
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 am
I was totally thinking about this last night. I think in order for it to work, they would have to change the gun shooting him to him accidentally shooting someone else, maybe even the fake Antonio Pierce.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 am
Attempted murders, drug addicts, kiddie porn addicts, etc…
These are not accidents. I cant believe you are comparing this to these horrible crimes.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 am
that’s a bullshit argument, TBL. should we ignore every crime that isn’t the most serious? If I get assaulted on the street, should the police not investigate because there are unsolved murders?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 am
Holding a loaded concealed weapon in your pants is not an accident.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 am
They should get Jay Mohr to play Rosenhaus. Gary Unmarried can’t have more than a month or two of life left, right?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 am
@TBL: how can you prosecute the Wall Street people when all the laws and regulations that would have prevented the economy from tanking were never in place? Everything they did was legal, even though it’s unethical.
Carrying a loaded concealed weapon, with an expired out of state permit, and discharging it in public…tell me where that’s legal? He’s just dumb enough to be a football player.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 am
i thought it was cancelled already.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 am
ripped from the headlines! (I hope Terry Crews plays Plax - he’s hilarious)
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am
texas?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am
The public and media always finds it’s moral outrage voice at the expense of a Black public figure and just starts piling on.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am
@Tampa — Come on, man. Plaxico may have been carrying that gun for his own protection (and NFL players have every right to be concerned about robbery these days) — but carrying an illegal gun is a serious crime.
Again, in the big scheme of things 3.5 years in state prison seems pretty excessive to me as well, but that’s an issue to take up with the NYS Legislature and NYC government. Sorry Plax.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am
Two counts…Concealed Weapon…Loaded Weapon…love that redundancy…Plax is going to jail…their will be no plea…not in NYC…they don’t give out concealed weapons licenses in NYC anymore…it is extremely rare…it is not like the rest of the country
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 am
Ah, Texas, forgot it was still part of the Union…
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 am
Holding a loaded concealed weapon in your pants is not an accident.
You are correct sir. Wrong wording. There was no premeditated intent to do harm. He was negligent and not responsible for registering that weapon but 3 1/2 years in prison is excessive.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 am
I thought the 2nd count had to do with the “intention to harm another”?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
even in texas it is a felony if you carry it in a bar.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
Antonio Pierce should go to jail. That guys a dick.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
Darrell..my outrage is that Plax got Pierce involved in bullshit and it may fuck up the Super Bowl run…my out rage is neither Black or White it is Blue
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
*for not registering that weapon.
I agree with Sportsdork.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
Carrying a loaded concealed weapon, with an expired out of state permit, and discharging it in public…tell me where that’s legal?
Anywhere in Mexico.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
And this is the folly of TBL’s point. There is a huge difference between illegal and unethical.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:54 am
cracker…that is the loaded weapon…you can get charged for having an unloaded weapon..the second there are bullets the intent to harm comes into play
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 am
Yeah I dont know how they’ll get both counts to stick, maybe they just introduced them both(both carry 3.5 years minimum), but they’ll knock it down to just the one by March.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 am
TBL, there is always going to be bigger fish to fry. are you saying we should never prosecute non-violent or less serious crimes? i think it was just a way for you to drop your political bias into the post.
you totally redeemed yourself with the Sharon Stone comments.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 am
Hate to be the one to break the news to you, but Favre didn’t do this.
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 am
I picture this all ending with TBL going on a Wall Street shooting spree.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 am
@ Roman War Helmet, I feel the same way. Plax is an idiot for bringing a gun into the city and placing another person unknowingly to them into this position, I’m not excusing that at all. My point is the intensity of the coverage and outrage always seems to increase when Black public figures are involved.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
cracker..they give them both so it guarantees the 3.5 years…I am telling you…NY gun laws are the strictest in the country…try to take common sense out of it..
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Maybe Favre did shoot Plax. Crime of the century.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am
Im just saying if Favre did this
You too missed the point.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 am
Nothing like a little moral equivalency to get the morning started right.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 am
Roman, don’t worry about the Super Bowl run with or without Plax no one is coming to Giant Stadium in January and winning, the concern is the actual Super Bowl. Pierce is fine for this year, probation at most for any involvement.
Eli will miss his safety blanket but I think the 2008 Giants are deep enough.
And the P Diddy comparison is not about the law, that went to trial, the jury found him not guilty. (At least that is my memory of it, too lazy to look it up) Same thing could happen here. Never underestimate a jurors ability to be convinced of reasonable doubt.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 am
Darrell..I agree to an extent but the story has three things…A Star player for a World Championship New York team who has given the team trouble for a few years and been on the back pages, a gun in a club and then a star teammate and a hospital trying to cover it up…for a guy shooting himself it has a lot of sexy attributes…does his color have something to do with it..maybe…but I don’t think if this happens in Cleveland (Lebron joke) that is even gets half the coverage
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 am
Your outrage is moronic. You are upset because he “may have fucked up a Super Bowl run”, but not the fact that he could have gotten a father of three killed or a single mother killed by illegally bringing a loaded handgun in to a bar and discharging it. For the people in favor of Plaxico, I am guessing you have not had a loved one or a friend killed by either accidental gunfire or intentional gunfire. If you had, you would be extremely pissed off right now.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 am
Bo.. I think the coverage has been amped by the fact that this is New York, this is the Superbowl winner, and with all the problems Plaxico has already given his team this year. Easiest media story ever. I do not see, if all these factors applied, how this story would be any different if Burress was white.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 am
but not the fact that he could have gotten a father of three killed or a single mother killed by illegally bringing a loaded handgun in to a bar and discharging it.
Hate to be the one to break the news to you, but Plax didn’t do this.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am
roman…you almost baited me into responding with the ad nauseum coverage of kellen winslow’s motorcycle accident, but i restrained.
because you’re a dickface.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am
/ That’s what she said?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am
Counting your chickens….
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am
Touche
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 am
4:20..get off your high fucking horse…you false indignation is a crock of shit…I am looking at this after the fact..if you think Plaxico Burress would have given a shit about me shooting myself in the leg at a club and getting arrested you would be wrong…I care about the team I root for…our relationship (as small and meaningless as it is) is based on him playing for the team..the end…don’t give me your betterment of society or loved one getting shot bullshit.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
Regarding the race angle I do think some of the commentary is borderline racist. Boomer Esiason is making comparisons to a hip hop culture and status symbol of guns and Deion Sanders telling him he did not grow up in a drug dealer infested neighborhood with his dad in jail. That is basically saying “Its a black thing” which is a justification but not a defense to his actions.
When you choose to do drugs, carry guns, hire a hooker, you know you are taking a risk of being arrested, Plax is suffering the consequences of his choices
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
@ted: if the jury comes back not guilty, the prosecutor should be shot in the leg. this is as open and closed as it gets. bullet hole in his leg is all the proof needed.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 am
this just highlights the stupidity of this fool. his wife, a lawyer, never said to him, plax, what you’re doing is illegal. if you’re concerned for your safety, how about we hire some body guards who are trained and licensed to carry firearms in public?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 am
Cracker I feel you but Bloomberg should not speak on this. I really think the supreme court should get involved because this is unconstitutional and excessive.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 am
Woah woah woah. Lets not go to extremes Ted
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 am
@4:20: single mothers shouldn’t be in the nightclub. she should be at home teaching her kids some shit before he robs me in 10 years.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 am
Just heard Bloomberg’s quote on the radio… I am cracking up that he actually used the word “slammer”
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 am
Counting your chickens….
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 so far
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 am
Should the SC have been involved in all the other, countless NYC cases dealing with the same matter? Or only when a high-profile NFL player gets in trouble?
Though I do agree with you, 3 1/2 years is excessive … for anyone, not just a pro athlete. Six months would be fine by me.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
+1 YYSA
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
@tedkerwin: I heard the laws became tougher as a result of the Diddy trial. It’s going to be hard for Plax to find wiggle room.
@RWH: I see your point, but the whole “needs to be made an example of” rubbed me the wrong way. Regarding the Giants run, I believe Eli spreads the ball around more with Plax out of the lineup.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
As a giants fan you really should know better.
/18-1
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 am
is his wife really a lawyer? didn’t the cops come to their house to question Plax, and she told the cops to hang on because she had to change, and just kept them waiting for over an hour. eventually, after she didn’t answer the door again, they left?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
Should the SC have been involved in all the other, countless NYC cases dealing with the same matter? Or only when a high-profile NFL player gets in trouble?
Mike this is what its gonna take for NYC to realize that this law is unconstitutional and excessive. Its fucked up but it needs to be done.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
benji History shows Prosecutors can fuck up the easiest of cases
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 am
/juiced
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 am
History shows Prosecutors can fuck up the easiest of cases
See the state of California vs. OJ Simpson
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 am
As a giants fan you really should know better.
/18-1
I said the Super Bowl is in question, but I am confident that the Giants at home in January beat any two NFC teams you propose will get there.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 am
I agree they will beat any two NFC teams that currently would make the playoffs.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 am
YYSA..two weeks baby..two weeks…
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 am
From a Court TV Article after P Diddy acquital
As the trial progressed, prosecutor Matthew Bogdanos repeatedly charged that witnesses, including some he called, were changing their stories or manufacturing them outright in an effort to help Combs.
In a long, angry closing, the prosecutor said the case was “rampant with bribery, money, influence and witnesses changing their testimony.”
He pointed to phone records indicating the witnesses had talked with Combs before testifying, contact that all parties had denied on the stand.
The prosecutor warned the jurors that if they acquitted Combs, they would “be adding names to the list of victims in this case.”
It is not about the law, it is about the evidence presented to the jury, which can often be confusing.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 am
/ 2007 Packers fan’d
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 am
Tampa - Point out how the law is unconstitutional? Excessive, yes.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 am
RWH- Can’t wait. MVP will be decided.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 am
Hawkeye- Didn’t our founding fathers give us the right to bear arms? A law saying that you cant have a concealed hand gun no matter the circumstance is unconstitutional. But in Plax case he cant play this card because his permit expired.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 am
Tampa Bo, don’t look now, but you’re starting to sound like a conservative.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 am
Hawkeye, I am not a gun advocate but the decision of the Supreme Court in June to strike down the Washington D.C. gun laws opens up the possibility of challenging the New York City laws as well. Washington D.C. was almost zero tolerance for gun ownership and it was a 5-4 decision but this is how laws change, one decision sets a precedent and a basis for extending the rationale behind the decision. Gun lovers and lobbyist are waiting for the next good factual case to challenge these laws.
That being said, Plax is not the example they are looking for.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 am
Bloomberg is the mayor of NYC, he’s speaking out about this incident because Plax is high profile and Bloomberg a proponent of the concealed weapon law.
The only way people pay attention to anything these days is if it’s a huge media story. Bloomberg’s not going to go to the press if some normal, non-famous idiot takes a gun to a club and shoots himself in the leg.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:41 am
Mike I hate fucking guns but I like Plax and dont want to see him locked up for 3 1/2 years so Im playing that card. Sort of “reaching over the aisle”.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 am
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. If you’re gonna have a gun for personal security, get it registered. Or if you’re rich, hire some body guards.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 am
and because it’s illegal to bring a gun into a bar..
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Seriously. I dont understand rich people sometimes. Like why any of them would ever get a DUI. You can afford to have someone drive you anywhere you want! Christ. And what kind of lawyer wife wouldn’t make sure his gun was registered? Just dumb all the way around.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 am
big ups on the Lewis article
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 am
The only person that should have had a gun in that club was his bodyguard. It’s amazing how stupid some athletes (and people in general) are.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am
thats the 2nd amendment–im no gun control guy but if people are going to carry guns they need to be responsible, and if an accident happens while they are carrying that gun, they need to be held accountable for it. thats the deal you make when you purchase a firearm
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 am
tedkerwin - Bad comparison. The DC law basically banned ALL gun ownership. NYC law does not ban gun ownership, does not allow you to carry one without a permit under a very severe penalty. This is similar to many other states or cities. Example: Here in Minnesota it is a gross misdemeanor to carry a gun without a permit. If you get caught a second time, it is a felony.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:04 am
Anyone that is defending Plax or even playing the right to bear arms card here is just as stupid as he is.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 am
“Anyone that is defending Plax here is just as stupid as he is.” That means the Eagles defense is very smart.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Die eagles-Just as dumb as Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. And why am I stupid dont just call someone a name without reason.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Tampa, I highly doubt Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin were thinking of someone taking a concealed weapon to a crowded club when they came up with the Right to Bear Arms amendment. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t excuse the fact that he was carrying an UNREGISTERED weapon.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 am
he has a right to bear arms sure, as long as it’s registered and he doesn’t bring the gun into a bar where it is not allowed by law.. he can drive around with it all day as long as it’s registered..
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 am
Sportsgal Ive already acknowledged that. You were late catch up. I am now on the fact that the law is excessive and was just explaining to Hawkeye why I thought it was unconstitutional.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am
@Tampa–
I know 3.5 years sounds excessive, but statistical studies have proven that gun control laws (i.e., restricting who can legally purchase or own firearms) don’t work. Those studies have also proven that what DOES work is harsh mandatory sentencing guidelines for any crime involving a firearm.
Sucks for Plax, but this system has been proven to work.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 am
Im not defending Plax he was wrong I just dont like the Law.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
Robut-I believe a harsh Mandatory sentence should be enforced like the Minnesota law Hawkeye pointed out but 3.5 years for a first time offense is ridiculous.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
Your argument has no legs, Tampa. When Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson came up with that law, there were no hand guns or semi-automatic rifles. Personally I see nothing wrong with someone going to prison for three and a half years when they do something as stupid as bringing a concealed weapon to a club.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 am
Dear Tampa,
Suck it, stupid.
Signed,
sportsgal
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 am
@ Tampa…I think we can all admit that Plax was being stupid. If you choose to defend his actions, or look at this case as though it is a slap in the face of the constitutional framers, then you also lack knowledge because this case is about someone unlawfully carrying a firearm, and beyond that firing it.
It would be one thing if a cop pulled him over and he happened to have it on him, but this idiot actually shot the thing off in a crowded place. Lucky for everyone else that he was the only one that got hurt. Hence, if you defend his actions, you are acting stupid in this instance.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 am
Sportgal- That was not really an argument when I referenced BEn Franklin and Thomas Jefferson just a rebuttal to die_eagles calling me stupid. My argument starts way before that dont write off for that comment.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 am
it’s not stupid if they keep it concealed.
/brainsplosion
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 am
IM NOT DEFENDING HIS ACTIONS I DONT LIKE THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATING THE LAW DO YOU PEOPLE FUCKING READ. OH MY GOD. I HOPE PLAX SHOOTS ALL OF YOU FUCKERS.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 am
Plax is going down because Bloomburg is pissed about all the covering up that went on. How does a freaking HOSPITAL admit him under an assumed name and also not report anything? That the club covered & cleaned everything up? That NYPD was helping Plax out?
That, on top of him being a stupid idiot, is why he’s in trouble.
/Karma (and I’m gonna get ‘ya, Plax)
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 am
IM NOT DEFENDING HIS ACTIONS I DONT LIKE THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATING THE LAW DO YOU PEOPLE FUCKING READ. OH MY GOD. I HOPE PLAX SHOOTS ALL OF YOU FUCKERS.
racist!
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:40 am
JPQ that is why Plax isnt going down.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 am
*fixed to show the irrelevance of bringing up what framers of the constitution were thinking about 230 plus years ago
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 am
I don’t understand why you’re SOOOOO pissed about the mandatory sentence. I don’t think there is a single acceptable reason for you to be clubbing and carrying a gun in your waist band.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 am
Tampa : Why? Karma or the cover-up?
The cover-up doesn’t change the facts of the case. i think it took away what little “wiggle room” there might have been for him to get out of this. His waiting 10 hours and trying to find somewhere to get treatment, having Pearce return the gun to NJ so it is’t in NYC, that stuff, i think, will bring him down. I think 3.5 years is ridiculous, but if that is the law, my point is all the other BS will make it hard to give him a break
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 am
ever been baby-seal clubbing? sometimes there are polar bears.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 am
tampa = maggs?
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 am
JPQ-Im going with Cover up.
Youngstown-No You motherfucking Piece of Shit.
/Maggs’d
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
tampa = maggs?
he’s just playing him on today’s show
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
@ Tampa…I am not talking about any of your previous argument. I said that what Plax did was stupid, and those that defend him are stupid, especially by envoking the right to bear arms in this situation to defend him. You said
Just as dumb as Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. And why am I stupid dont just call someone a name without reason.
Hence the further details I provided about why the defense is stupid. The penalty fits the crime, especially in this case.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
+1 YYSA for showing why Sportsgal is racist.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:56 am
@Tampa Bo: I do not think you’re defending Mr. Smith’s actions, but I must disagree with you on possible sentencing. The penalties are harsh because most people will try and get their sentenced reduced or plea bargain their way out.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 am
@Tampa — you forgot the caps lock you MORON
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 am
I am secretly wishing Plaxico Burris shoots Roman War Helmets husband in the head.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Since his name has already been mentioned and the Plax thing has been beaten to death, I’ll throw this conspiracy theory out there.
Favre has such a hard on for the Packers that he’s now throwing games, so Green Bay doesn’t get a good draft pick.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Thank you Heldover Im appreciate you see my argument for what it is not just reading the last 5 comments.
Die_eagles-I took that the wrong way.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Apparently you missed the comment someone made about the penalty being excessive and used the 2nd Amendment to make their point. But way to bring up slavery!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 pm
On the subject though, what do you think is too harsh about the penalty for carrying a concealed unregistered weapon, and firing it in a crowded place. This is a bad law?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I’ve just been itching to use my get out of racisim free card
/voted obama
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
YYSA, I like the links on your site.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Die_eagles-He didn’t have any intent of doing harm to anyone. In times like these with athletes being the targets of Robbery they feel the need to be strapped. I think the law is just to harsh for a first time offender.
Sportsgal is still racist. Thomas Jefferson has black kids.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:36 pm
*had
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Even in the event of a mugging, I still don’t think you can pull out a gun and shoot someone.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Ok Eagles the jig is up you are a hippie.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Even in the event of a mugging, I still don’t think you can pull out a gun and shoot someone.
Self Defense is a reasonableness standard in most states, so maybe you can but you will still face the gun charge in NYC, just maybe you can avoid the assault charge.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
and if Hawkeye is still around, my point about the Washington D.C. case is that it is the basis of challenging the other laws. D.C. was too broad so it was struck down, the next step would be to track the granting of licenses by a City and argue that the enforcement of the regulations is a de facto ban on all gun ownership, small legal steps the NRA is just collecting data now to support the argument that the Cities are doing in practice what D.C. did in black letter law.