Chargers Fans Must Be Loving The Norv Era
NFL December 8th. 2008, 1:45pm
Norv Turner’s Chargers are sitting at 5-8 in the vaunted AFC West, currently tied with the 49ers for the most pathetic version of second place in the NFL. Three of their listless wins have come against the Chiefs (2-11) and the Raiders (3-10). Courageous stuff indeed.
So naturally, with a surprisingly subpar record for a team that went to the AFC Championship just one year ago, many would assume injuries had to be their undoing, a fair thought when attempting to figure out what exactly happened to them.
They’ve certainly been dealt a few setbacks, most notably the knee injury to Shawne Merriman, who for all intents and purposes has been gone from the get-go. (Sure, fans can point to the Ed Hochuli game, but it’d be a reach to blame the abomination their season has become on something that happened in Week 2.)
That injury argument loses steam pretty quickly though when you consider key players lost by the Patriots (Brady), Cowboys (Romo) and Giants (Strahan retiring, Osi), all teams who like San Diego, made the playoffs last year. However, despite the setbacks and playing in better divisions than the Chargers, each of the three aforementioned teams have managed to stay respectable, in fact, none of them have a record below 8-5. And keep in mind, Dallas has Wade Phillips weaving his Crayola wand.
Which leads us to the coaching problem and San Diego’s questionable direction. After Marty Schottenheimer finished 14-2 in 2007, coming up short at home against the Pats in the playoffs, his team was still viewed as a lock to be a force in the AFC for years to come. He was instead fired in favor of Norv Turner. Read that sentence again.
Short of running on the field and blocking a game winning field goal attempt by his own kicker, how could any coach be fired in favor of Norv Turner after finishing with a record of 14-2?
Yes, Turner’s Chargers went to the AFC Championship last year, but his fingerprints were barely on that team. This year, the push-up bra is off, the cleavage has vanished and Charger fans are staring blankly at the saggy-titted reality that is the Norv Turner era.
Unless they win their last three games, the Chargers will finish under .500 in a putrid division where incompetence appears to be encouraged. 14-2 feels like ten years ago. Well done, San Diego.
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December 8th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
You my friend have a gift.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I think Cowher would take this gig without blinking, if he’s not already too soft from whatever the hell it is he does on CBS. It’s almost identical to the Pittsburgh situation–good team on a down year that doesn’t need too much rebuilding. The front office isn’t as good, but winning would change that.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I’ve gotta say, this is kind of sad for me. I’ve grown to enjoy the yearly sore-loser “shoulda, woulda” complaints from the Chargers after they’re bounced from the playoffs.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
The Chargers will still be #9 on TBL’s power ranking this week.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
how many more jobs is this guy going to get before nfl gms begin to figure out he’s an awful coach?
talk about two guys who are still living off of jimmy johnson’s name: norv and dave wannstedt.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Classy imagery for a classy city.
And yes, Chargers fans, you’ve been Norv’d!
The mistake to make is to think that a new coach can fix everything. They need to go to Oz to find LT’s heart and Merriman’s knee.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I think someone needs to document all of the times a team pushed out their successful head coach because fell just short of a title, only to have their new coach take the team in the opposite direction. It’s the “careful what you wish for” situation.
Michigan Football (Carr)
Kentucky Basketball (Tubby Smith)
Nebraska Football (Solich)
Notre Dame Football (Willingham–maybe?)
We’ll see what happens with Auburn and Tennessee football.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This year, the push-up bra is off, the cleavage has vanished and Charger fans are staring blankly at the saggy-titted reality that is the Norv Turner era
Call the Pulitzer committee
December 8th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I was a little surprised myself at the time with their management’s reasoning for that hiring/firing. I found it here on youtube. Even now, I’m still a little confused.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
two things would need to happen…AJ smith gets fired (not happening) and the chargers instantly become a high-revenue (not to be confused with big market) team.
cowher isn’t coming out of retirement for pennies on the dollar and the chargers are one of the poorer NFL teams. i couldn’t see him landing in SD unless it was only about the football, whcih it’s not.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Pretty sure Tubby won a title with UK.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
So…who else is out there for a Head Coaching job?
December 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
That game was won for the Chargers if the idiot corner had just gone down instead of running back the interception. Instead, he fumbled and the Pats recovered and tied the score thereafter.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
You’re right. And he was still forced out.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
@bff: agree 100%
Instead of worring about “lights out” dances and “teardrop” spikes and Rivers bitching at Cutler, maybe this collection of pillow soft, gutless “playmakers” should do the hardest thing in the world to do:look in the mirror and blame THEMSELVES for being the biggest laughingstock in the NFL (although the Bills are gaining on them…fast).
Antonio Gates, Shawn Phillips, LT (to some extent) and Antonio Cromatie, to name a few, seem to have entered the witness protection plan, yet Norv gets ALL the blame. The guy has proven to be a good coordinator and a bad head coach, but the players need to take some heat also.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
@Clown…re:Tubby. That was the point. Billy G is taking them in the opposite direction. Pay attention.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Marty is laughing somewhere.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
you know what, fuck the chargers and fuck the love for them they never deserved it. going into that playoff pats playoff game out there where the bolts blew it in the 4th they were cocky fucks who didnt respect shit and just thought LT would run all over anyone and everyone and merriman would dance his way to the super bowl but they ate some crow that day, capped off with a cry baby LT act at midfield come back next year and what do we get? another team full of cocky arrogant assholes the next year who think they can come into gillette in week 2 of monday night football how’d they do? they got bitched, blah blah blah san diego…come to gillette again for the AFC champ game, LT is a walking piece of cardboard who plays 2 snaps and sits on the bench for 3 1/2 hours not showing any sign of life, phil rivers talks shit to the fans but gets applauded for being a tough guy…please, i’m sick of this franchise its like they took the raiders spot for being the douchebags of the NFL, screw the chargers and screw their fans
December 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
when talented skill players aren’t producing, what’s usually the fault? offensive line.
the chargers’ OL this year has been a level worse than dogshit. marcus mcniell and nick hardwick should be ashamed of themselves.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
spencer: agree on OL, but what about the D? They can’t make a 3rd down stop if their life depended on it (like the Pack this year)
Recc4: you said what I said but much better than i did-lol
December 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
best article about LT and Schottenheimer firing (A year old btw). Here’s a taste:
“…Tomlinson has learned that under Smith, he has no chance to argue for a different, more stable course. He first realized this after the 2005 season. He’d publicly stated that he wanted Brees back…Nor did he understand this past February, when Schottenheimer was fired… Smith is also volatile enough to be called a “bully” by one agent and “sketchy” by another. And some of Smith’s victims believe that Tomlinson’s Super Bowl chances are fading. Chiefs linebacker Donnie Edwards, who left San Diego this off-season following a yearlong contract battle with Smith, recently told The Kansas City Star, “We had something great going there. But egos destroyed it. Well, not egos. Ego.”
December 8th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
JPQ: haha, i was going to say the same thing except that you said what i said but better, i needed that little vent i’m sick of that completly overrated franchise
December 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Maybe the Chargers’ fate has something to do with the hobbling/erosion of LT and Gates, two of the game’s elite at their positions for the past 5+ seasons. Couple that with the rapid decline of the Chargers’ offensive line, their lack of a consistent pass rush without Merriman and a secondary that’s often a sieve…and it’s not hard to see why they’ve struggled. That and, it may be a cliche, but they just don’t seem to have the edge you need to win close games. How many close games have they won this year? How many have they lost? Say what you want about teams like the Pats, Colts, Giants, etc….they just seem to be able to win close games. Maybe that comes from the coach. Guess that’s something you really can’t measure.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Does AJ Smith have nightmares about the Brees trade? Certainly it was understandable at the time — young talent in Rivers and Brees was coming off a nasty shoulder surgery — but can anyone argue that this team would not be measurably better with Brees?
December 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
RECC4:me too. I have been a Merriman hater (well, disliker) since day 1, and LT’s moping and whining always got to me too. People bitch at players that do that (remember the Eli Manning complaints a short 18 months ago about shoulder shrugs & no emotion?) and LT always got the love because of his stats. Guy is not a winner, and when you have a lot of great “athletes” and not “football players and teammates” sometimes you underachieve (see Dallas Cowboys)
December 8th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
better? sure, probably better, but rivers is pretty good in his own right.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I don’t think he would improve their QB production much, but he would certainly raise the leadership bar on this team. Oh, and he probably would be looking at pictures of defensive alignments and talking to his teammates rather than yelling at fans in the stands.
Rivers = Marmalard
December 8th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
but can anyone argue that this team would not be measurably better with Brees?
Hush! We’re enjoying his MVP-like antics in New Orleans!
December 8th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Its the Curse Of Marty. Fire him unfairly and your franchise will burn in nfl purgatory, see Cleveland and Kansas City.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
it’s funny too cause i really wanted the pats to move up and take LT in that ‘01 draft…looking back 3 super bowls wins later, another AFC champ game appearance, and an 18-1 season, richard seymour (5 pro bowls, 3 all pro teams) looks pretty good to me
December 8th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
The Chargers have not been the same since Marion Butts left
December 8th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
@irishmafia I prefer the “curse of Lorenzo Neal”
December 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
The Chargers have not been the same since Lance Alworth was traded
/Curse of the Bambi’d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Diego_Sports_Curse#The_lore
December 8th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
got lucky to get him…the browns were set to take him before butch davis decided, on his own, that gerrard warren would be the better choice.
just. fucking. shoot me.
December 8th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I wonder if the teams in the 2001 draft who chose David Terrell, Koren Robinson and Rod Gardner before Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne wish they could have a do-over.
December 8th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Hush! We’re enjoying his MVP-like antics in New Orleans!
While I wholeheartedly agree, you should be careful saying that around TBL…
December 8th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Yes. AJ Smith is beloved by all Saints fans. If not for him and the Dolphins, Dante Culpepper would be leading the Saints to an 0-13 season…
December 8th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Marty resigned from the Chiefs, he was not fired.
And I will repeat this again: Bill Cowher will come out from behind the CBS studio desk to coach one team and one team only – The KC Chiefs. Herm and Carl will probably survive this debacle of a season, finish their contracts and go the way of the dodo bird. Enter Cowher and a new GM. Go ahead and save this prediction, you have my permission to bring it back out when it happens.