Let the UFC-NFL Debate Begin
Uncategorized June 3rd. 2007, 3:54pmClearly, our readers are into this mixed martial arts and ultimate fighting stuff … several folks sent us this video of last night’s fight involving former NFL player Johnnie Morton. He got knocked out 38 seconds into the fight, and we fully expect a lame conversation Monday about which sport is tougher.
This seems like a fair question: was the guy who hit Morton wearing brass knuckles? Because once they get around to the replay, it looks like an average right hand to the face. Granted, we haven’t been in too many fights, but we’ve never seen anyone knocked out this long (it looks like Morton doesn’t open his eyes for about two minutes, and you can hear his people shouting, ‘Wake up, Johnnie!’) courtesy of a right hook.
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June 3rd, 2007 at 4:13 PM
Wow, he sucks.
June 3rd, 2007 at 4:27 PM
Johnny! Watch the right! Watch the…! Watch…!
Oh shit. Too late.
June 3rd, 2007 at 5:04 PM
Morton flinched and took a shot right on his jaw close to his ear, even with boxing gloves he would have been out like light.
That kind of KO is why you’re supposed to keep your chin down, and never have both arms extended – keep your non-striking hand close to your face, especially in close.
A fight between two guys going into the fight with one bout of experience is hardly a litmus test of where the MMA stands next to boxing. The Morton fight was a undisciplined mess, which had all of the technical merit of a kegger slapfight between drunk coeds.
June 3rd, 2007 at 5:32 PM
BTW, Morton refused to take his post-match drug test and, right now, his purse ($100,000) is being held up.
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 PM
Somebody drugged Johnny Morton!
Is that Mike Matusow telling johnny to wake up? It looks and sounds like him.
Seriously though – Morton was real sloppy.
As for the “tougher” question. Both MMA and Football are contact sports. I think that in MMA you have people prepared to get hurt. They say there are more serious neck and head related injuries in high school cheer leading, so does that make cheer leaders tougher than guys in MMA or the NFL? It’s one of those questions that doesn’t need to be asked
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 PM
Any time your chin gets turned like that you are going to be out cold,I dont care who you are or how tough you are.Thats what happens when you have pretty much no training and just go and try to brawl your way to a win,you get caught and dropped like a bad habit.Its so funny that some of these new guys trying out MMA think that it is just a street fight in a ring,when in reality all the moves/defense you have to be skilled out is ridiculous.If Morton would have gotten him ont he ground he probably would have gotten submitted rather than knocked out.
June 3rd, 2007 at 9:32 PM
That’s called being hit on the button. The other guy was planted and that punch came from his feet.
I’ve been hit there in a brawl, it sucks. I’m lucky I didn’t get killed.
Johnnie is OBVIOSULY juiced. Jeezis H Christ…he was never that big when he played for the Lions.
LOL
June 4th, 2007 at 4:44 AM
I find it funny when TBL passes an opinion on something they clearly know nothing about. I’m not a MMA guy by any standards, but “average right to the face”? Are you serious? Morton coulda been killed with defense like that.
Here’s a question for the MMA fans: Is there a chance that someone could get killed in the ring? I remember a while back a boxer died in the hospital immediately after a fight, and the infamous Kermit Washington punch coulda killed an unsuspecting Rudy T. (Wikipedia says that Rudy T was leaking spinal fluid into his mouth and his life was in danger)
Of course the UFC guys are trained at a high level and have their guard up, but couldn’t an unguarded, full forced, direct punch or kick to the head potentially kill someone?
June 4th, 2007 at 6:15 AM
potentially, any blow if hard enough could kill you. But overall, if you are knocked out in MMA, and can’t defend, the ref will step, whereas in boxing, you have a 10 count to get your composure back and take more damage.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:17 AM
Whatever the level of training an MMA fighter has there’s going to be the chance someone gets killed, but that chace exists in many other sports – there’s not much of an outcry to ban auto racing as a whole because someone get’s killed every year like clockwork.
Most fight fatalities occur in boxing with guys that have been being hit in the head for years with cumulative effects that may have gone undiagnosed or kept from boxing commissions. In terms of street fighting, the biggest danger is from being knocked out and hitting your head on the pavement, not from a strike itself.
MMA may not be your idea of entertainment (I don’t enjoy it myself), but the Human Cockfighting argument doesn’t wash. There is no data to suggest that MMA is any more dangerous than boxing, in fact there hasn’t been a single fatality in the US in an MMA fight – compared to five boxing deaths in the US in 2005 alone.
June 4th, 2007 at 1:37 PM
3 words: Post Concussive Syndrome
June 4th, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Unfortunately, I’d say that eventually someone will get killed in an MMA fight. Take the Chuck Liddell fight for instance. Let’s say after Rampage dropped him with that right hook that all 4 of those haymakers landed squarely against the undefended head. SOmething like that could certainly kill you. As quick as the refs are to stop fights (in the UFC), it all happens so fast.
June 4th, 2007 at 3:52 PM
One person has been killed in an MMA fight, ‘98 in Russia – in exactly the way you suggested.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1193574140296314666
Now, is anyone supposed to believe that one death nine years ago makes MMA more dangerous than boxing or auto racing? The data just doesn’t back that assertion up at all.
June 4th, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Johnnie learned that at lions mini camp
June 4th, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Also, the guy that died in that fight had a serious brain condition which is why he was all the way over in the Ukraine fighting in the first place. He wanted to fight and could not get medically cleared anywhere in the United States so he went overseas. Then he died.
June 4th, 2007 at 7:46 PM
I am living in KC and everyone is cracking up over this “Fight”! Is this what they call ” Stick to your Day job!”
June 4th, 2007 at 8:57 PM
Hilarious stuff. Both of those guys sucked. The funniest part was the announcers trying to fill time and falling all over themselves trying to convince the audience that their eyes were lying to them and they didn’t just watch some old bullcrap.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:41 AM
I guess MMA is not so tough if nobody is getting killed, like they do each year in football and boxing. I’m amazed at how many generalizations are made over one fight. Gee, I guess Lidell can’t fight either since he went down in a little over a minute. Tyson used to rip his opponents to shreds in seconds during his prime. I’m sure he would make short order of these MMA guys.