Barry Bonds and the Miraculous All-Star Comeback
Uncategorized July 2nd. 2007, 3:10pm
This is about the oldest All-Star photo of Barry Bonds we could find, and based on how wiry he looks (just a guess, but he weighed less in this photo than Mr. Furley did at any point during his Three’s Company run), we’re guess it’s from the early 1990s. His head is the the size of Jupiter now.
Let the ballot stuffing arguments begin! The 2007 All-Star game will be in San Francisco next week, and not-too-surprisingly, Bonds staged a 2004 Red Sox-like comeback to stun Alfonso Soriano Sunday for the final starting spot in the outfield.
Apparently there was some kind of All-Star selection show on TBS, and since we missed it, we can offer no critique or analysis of Cal Ripken’s hair issues or Tony Gwynn’s perpetual smile. But after the jump, one reader was less than thrilled with the execution of the show by TBS, and emailed us about it:
“MLB schedules this thing not for a specific time, but to air at the conclusion of a game (forcing people to watch a game they don’t care about). Not only that, but a rain delay, shoddy relief pitching and 90 minutes later, and they are tied in the 9th inning still. MLB screwed this up royally. I for one think TBS will do a great job with the postseason this year, but this is ridiculous. I’ve never seen a show with this much billing delayed like this. One more excuse for fans to say MLB doesn’t care about them, by making them wait HOURS to see who is in the All-Star Game.€
We can’t get excited either way about the All-Star game because it hardly registers. It’s a cut above the laughable Pro Bowl, which everyone begs out of, but not nearly as fascinating or high-flying as the NBA All-Star game, which is a dunk-a-thon with some hoops worked in.
In case you missed it in the roundup, Kenny Mayne will be in a kayak in McCovey Cove for the home run derby, and ESPN will introduce us to the surely-nauseating ’scuba cam.’ You probably don’t know a scuba cam from an upskirt cam. Unless you watch America’s Cup.
Best of veterans, youngsters at Classic (MLB.com)
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July 2nd, 2007 at 3:31 PM
Bonds starting? Really? Im moving out of this country, it’s too embarassing to continue on here.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 PM
I am not a Bonds guy at all but I looked at his stats and then started looking for other guys who should be in there over him in the outfield…it is not like this is some disgrace…The NL outfielders have been lees then lacking…Carlos Lee probably should have been the starter but it is not a travesty…and don’t give me the Juice argument…I think you might be seeing it was more than Bonds with the offensive output this season from some prominent stars
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 PM
TBL,
Totally disagree with you. The MLB all-star game is the best of the four. At least it resembles the game. The pro-bowl is a joke, always has been. And the NBA and NHL all-star games don’t believe in a thing called defense. That would be like baseball not using outfielders in the all-star game. Yay offense!
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:51 PM
Will anyone care about this two years from now? Two months from now? Two weeks from now?
Jordi – As far as an all-star game being an actual competitive game itself, MLB’s wins hands down. The most entertaining is the NBA’s, easily.
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 PM
Jordi, the MLB all-star game has been a joke since homefield has been at stake and since when captain selig decided to end the game in a tie a few back. Baseball players are hard to like anymore, especially the ones filling out the all-star rosters.
As far as Roman, how can you say this isnt some huge disgrace? Ur just about as ignorant as can be i think. sorry to dissappoint you, but Bonds is a disgrace. He is going to stomp on America’s most Cherished sports record, and give you the finger right afterwards. The only way this season wouldnt be a disgrace to the legacy of baseball is if a least one of the following things happend:
1. Selig bans barry right before passing Aaron
2. A crazed hippy fan clubs Barry in the outfiled ala nancy kerrigan
3. bonds has massive kidney and liver failure, drops dead
4. bonds admitts to being a dirty fcuk, comes totally clean, breaks the record, and leaves baseball
5. bud selig steps down as commish, FINALLY, leaving a wake of destruction in his path.
6. the government somehow pulls a fast one for the American Public, that has been tortured by this asshole for the last 8 years, and boots him, or charges him with something before its too late.
His stats may say he is a top 3 outfielder in the NL, but we all know that is not true, and this is a case of SanFrancisco fans stuffing the ballots to get him in, since they are the only ones that continually show support for this d-bag, and who should be surprised, those fart smelling asswipes have had it all wrong since they decided to play for the “other team”
July 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 PM
Baseball’s all-star festivities are most definitely a cut above the other leagues.
The game is simply more competitively played. Give me the home run contest any day over the slam dunk contest.
The atmosphere is different – the Pro Bowl has an atmosphere of indifference, the NBA has an exclusive party-corporate thing going on – but MLB manages to put a family-friendly event forth. And a normal fan can get tickets.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:01 PM
I know I’m in the minority on this, but I’ll take the NHL Skills Competition over any of the other all-star festivities (except MAYBE the home run derby). That’s probably just the Minnesotan in me though.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 PM
You’re from Minnesota and you support the NHL? Come on, we’re still bitter about the Stars leaving. Actually, I haven’t watched hockey in years, but the Excel Center does provide a great hockey atmosphere.
I like the home run derby, but overall game, I prefer the NBA. I like the up tempo style. The MLB all-star game is like any other game through out the year. At least the NBA picks the game up and is entertaining.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:23 PM
Yeah I still hate the Stars more than any other franchise in sports (except maybe the Packers), and its impossible NOT to still be bitter about the whole Norm Green experience, and the Gary Bettman seems to have an ongoing bet with Bud Selig as to who can screw up their league the most, but damned if I don’t go to the X at least 8 or 9 times a year and enjoy the hell out of it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:23 PM
1.Ninja Warrior Obstacle Course > Home Run Derby
2.Stop hating on Barry. At least he didn’t quit for a year and detox like some players out there now. No, he had the shrunken balls to stand out there and swing away like a man.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 PM
Ok here we go with the Lets go after Barry witch-hunt again. Lets stop looking at the guy how his body has developed and look at the facts.
1. If this was Mark McGuire, no one would be saying a damn thing.
2. The guy has over 350 more walks than the next closest guy to him. If he was to get pitched to more this record would have been broken 2 years ago in 2005. Plus why do they walk him all the dang time if he is not that good.
3. No body says anything about pitches and how they get bigger (ie put up picture of Roger Clemens from when he started until now). if you are just going off of looks then he is guilty too!
Bonds deserves to be in this game because its in San Francisco, end of discussion. The man has played there since what 1992-1993? He is the greatest hitter in the game (Junior is next).
As far as the selection show goes. If this was on Fox or Espn and a game was on, they would have had to do the same thing and not shown the Selection Show until the game was over!
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:29 PM
The X is probably one of the best venues around, in any sport. It kicks ass for hockey games and I had a blast watching Clapton from the nose bleeds while I was puffin’ away.
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:35 PM
Ripken and Gwynn were dreadfully boring on that All star show..I watched about 15 minutes and turned it off and went to sleep. No good analysis.. nothing..
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:54 PM
Actually, Ninja Warrior trumps every all star game. But if I’m going to actually sit and watch 1 ASG, it’s MLB’s, hands down.
From what little I saw of the TBS ASG roster show, boring is an understatement. It was awful. Then again, it would have been awful no matter which network broadcast it. When your choices are TBS’s snoozefest, the ESPN Baseball Tonight doofs, or FOX’s pairing of dunces, Jeanie Zelasko and Kevin Kennedy, talk about picking your poison…
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 PM
Who really cares, its not that outragious, the Giants do stink they needed one player. He would have been on the roster regardless…
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Why do we need an All-Star selection show? If we all agreed in part that these games are worthless, then who cares? What necessitates the existence of a selection show? And moreover, if it was on TBS, then who cares anyways? turner network? gimme a break.
Back to BOnds
1. If mcguire was doing this right now, no one would say a word? Ok, so you are chalking all the hate up to racism with that statement. Dismissed.
2. Who cares about Bond’s number of walks? Shoulda woulda coulda. HE DIDNT BREAK IT TWO YEARS AGO. Instead of walking him, they should have been throwing at his overgrowth melon of a cranium for the past 2 years so things wouldnt have come this far to begin with.
3. People bring up pitchers in this argument all the time. The only reason that no one cares about Clemens is because he completely ruined his legacy by coming back this time, too much money, too much favoritism, too much totally sucking balls. he wont top 8 wins this year, thats like i dunno around 5mil a victory? 3 mil? i dont know what he signed for other than “ungodly” amount of money. the diamondbacks pitcher grimsley narced a bunch of players. the guy with seattle last year was the first pitcher to test i think. he was AAA at the time i think, betancourt? so people are talking about pitchers. EVERYONE IS DIRTY, and INCLUDED in the arguement. YOU ARE JUST REACHING FOR ANY GLIMPSE OF INNOCENCE SO YOU CAN REMAIN BLIND AND DUMB TO BONDS”S BS. Hey, I would too if i hadnt seen a winner produced by that big whiny bitch since he LOST the WORLD SERIES like what? 10 years back? Ship him out, he is the only reason that the Giants have completely sucked for the past forever.
“Bonds deserves to be in this game because its in San Francisco, end of discussion. The man has played there since what 1992-1993? He is the greatest hitter in the game (Junior is next).”
You’ve got your head in the sand buddy if you think Bonds Was EVER greater than Junior.
Frank Thomas played 15 seasons in chicago, and when the a-s game was in the Chi, he wasnt granted an automatic roster spot for being loyal to his team, which all players should be anyways.
Your an idiot for thinking Bonds even cares about his fans in san fran, cause its been quite clear from the getgo that the only person barry lamar bonds cares about is BLB. THERE IS YOUR END OF DISCUSSION.
CHEAT!@
July 2nd, 2007 at 5:50 PM
To all of the Bonds haters, answer me one very simple question:
How does popping roids or rubbing clear & cream actually HELP you hit a baseball? Anyone, anyone, Bueller?
If someone could explain to me how being beefed up makes you take a round bat and hit a round ball being thrown at 90mph, I might change my outlook.
And dont come back with it makes you hit the ball farther, that doesnt answer the question. If you want to make that argument look at the ballparks these guys play in, anything more than 300 ft and its gone.
And just remember, The Babe never played against minorities, usually hit against worthless pitchers who threw 600 innings a year and was usually juiced up on beer and brats.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 PM
Phil,
Even though the Babe never played against minorities, there were far fewer teams so the talent pool was probably equitable. And how does being “juiced up on beer and brats” help you hit for average or home runs? It doesn’t.
I’m sorry if you won’t accept the fact that `roids do help you hit the ball further, they just do. Steroids don’t help you make contact, but you do hit it much farther.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Phil – Don’t have the link handy, but one of the many drug cocktails Bonds took supposedly helps your eyesight. You’d have to poke around for the link. Apparently, it really helped him pick up the pitches early, thus the incredible contact rate the guy had.
Also, I’m going out on a limb but roids = strength = power = bat speed.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:22 PM
I would say that bat speed is greatly increased, as well as the amount of kenetic energy that can be transferred when the potential energy stored in his chemically enlarged muscles is transfered from the swing of the bat into the ball, its physics with a little bit of chemistry and biology idiot. didnt you pay attention in high school science?
See, ill explain the principals of energy for a second here for you. Energy is spent in Joules. picture a bowling ball at the top of a hill ok? now, if the ball is 8 pounds, and is given a nudge down the hill, its energy will go from (potential energy at the top of the hill) to active or (kenetic energy at the bottom of the hill) when the ball has stopped rolling. Now picture the same thing with a 15 pound ball. the fifteen pound ball is obviously going to beat the 8 pound ball in a race down the hill cause it weighs more and therefor has more potential energy at the top of the hill, as well as it will have expended more kenetic energy once it reaches the bottom of the hill. same principal behind mr. cheat himself, bonds. he has much more transferable energy in his arms than the guy who didnt cheat, therefore making him hit balls farther when he makes contact. does it result in homeruns every at bat? certainly not moron. that would be impossible. but does it make every warning track power shot gain an extra 5 feet to clear the fence? probably. does it make the 425 foot blast turn into an all out water meelee in Mcfaggy cove at 500 feet? probably. SO, if you insist on being an ignorant boob, by all means, dont mention any other stupid points regarding the possiblity of dickface being innocent, cause we all know he isnt, and you will remain blissfully ignorant, and will probably be struck by lightening someday or a mysterious piece of space garbage will fall from the sky and kill you anyways. but if you want to prove that bonds is innocent by saying, you cant argue this, this or this point cause it kills my point, then just save ur breath and shut up, cause i can dance around ur booshyt and still make the point clear.
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 PM
Hey Johnny…No one is saying that Bonds is innocent…but…HE IS NOT THE ONLY GUY TO TAKE STEROIDS….pitchers and hitters took them…hell these guys could be taking them now…HGH is not traceable….Your quantum physics lesson there was facsinating but doesn’t steriods also increase arm strength too? You are ignorant and naive if you think Barry is the only guy to cheat here. That everyone was innocent. Your hatred of Bonds while justifiable does not mean others can’t acknowledge what happened and put it into a different perspective. Hell Gaylord Perry is in the Hall of Fame and he cheated his way to 300 wins…all the old timers laugh about it. By scuffing and doctoring the ball is he any less a cheat? Doesn’t that change the trajectory of the ball? Mr Naive? Huh?
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Oh Yeah Johnny…you talk about failing tests? Um Barry Lamr Bonds never failed a steroid test either.
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:14 PM
Johnny, are you a student of the game?
Barry cares about the fans more than you will know. I am not throwing up the Race card because its not about Race here. The reason why Barry is Barry is because he saw first hand how his Father (who was a baseball) was treated by the media and by fans back in the 60’s and 70’s. Especially the Media!
Most of the media puts a spin on things to do what. Sell newspapers and draw people into there columns. (Not you TBL!) The hot topic for the past 7 years is what in this country? STERIODS!!! We as a society have forgotten one of the things that made our country great….Innocent until proven guilty. OJ messed that up for everyone. But I guess that anyone who takes steroids would be able to hit 750 home runs in a 20 years career!
The game of baseball has always been with cheater’s in it. A known cheater by the name of Gaylord Perry has over 300 wins and is in the hall of fame…I don’t see an asterisk next to those wins my friend!
I am not saying that its right if he or anyone took steroids (it shrinks your package and I ain’t doing that for no one!) but if there are not rules against it (like the rules in other sports that ban it) then they didnt do anything wrong!
July 2nd, 2007 at 7:37 PM
If he was in the rules of baseball and testing (which by the way he has never tested positive for anything) then back off of him. I am a big Atlanta Braves fan and have been one since the age of 3. If I was Mr. Aaron I would be mad at Bud Selig the commissioner. He didn’t do anything about testing and is getting off easy with this stuff.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:09 PM
LEARN TO READ GUYS>
“3. People bring up pitchers in this argument all the time. The only reason that no one cares about Clemens is because he completely ruined his legacy by coming back this time, too much money, too much favoritism, too much totally sucking balls. he wont top 8 wins this year, thats like i dunno around 5mil a victory? 3 mil? i dont know what he signed for other than “ungodly†amount of money. the diamondbacks pitcher grimsley narced a bunch of players. the guy with seattle last year was the first pitcher to test i think. he was AAA at the time i think, betancourt? so people are talking about pitchers. EVERYONE IS DIRTY, and INCLUDED in the arguement. YOU ARE JUST REACHING FOR ANY GLIMPSE OF INNOCENCE SO YOU CAN REMAIN BLIND AND DUMB TO BONDSâ€S BS.”
Your Gaylord Perry point is true, but there is a major difference, any pitcher in the game could have done that and had an even shot at getting away with it. The baseball can be spit on etc, and that is considered a different type of cheating. a “competetive spirit” cheat if you will, where barry, purposefully decieved the game in order to gain personal achievement. Barry bonds was probably taking supps that were only availible to quite well off players that could afford the hassell of cheating and covering it up. there is a difference right ther, i mean if all players are going to cheat, they should at elast have access to the same drugs right? that would make it ok? …… god. ur making me want to choke. Roman, ur just an idiot, i cant respond to that anymore.
ALSO thanks for calling me nieve and you didnt even read anything i said, clearly you didnt because of the above reference where i specifically stated that EVERYONE IS DIRTY, Douche.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:14 PM
Stating that Bonds never failed a test only further points out the incompetance of the leagues director, mr. bud selig, whom let steroid use run rampant during his tenure, and didnt even require testing till congress took action against the league. Pease dont make me explain to you the physics that would prove it impossible to obtain a positive roid test from bonds, 10 years ago, when testing didnt even exist.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 PM
AND DC, ill respond to this, even though your second sentence killed your entire point.
Yes, i played a lot of baseball in my day. Tee-ball through high school. please, blow my mind, im sure you have tons of info ive been in the dark on.
“Barry cares about the fans more than you will know. I am not throwing up the Race card because its not about Race here. The reason why Barry is Barry is because he saw first hand how his Father (who was a baseball) was treated by the media and by fans back in the 60’s and 70’s. Especially the Media!” So its ok to dwell on the past and project hate from generations ago into modern day. thats what you just said there. and people wonder why america is soo damn racist.
Thats a bullshit excuse for someone being a total asshole if ive ever heard one. barry is a whiny lil bitch cause he thinks his spotlight has been perpetually stolen his entire career by undeserving white guys. his hate for white people is clear. i mean the guy’s a black racist, plain and simple and looks out for himself only. why do you think the Giants have been handcuffed with him on the team the past decade? If bonds was so innocent as you proclaim, why hasnt he filed defamation suits against everyone that has shown him to be guilty? wada and farina are no saints, but they didnt get in trouble for writing a book that showed how bonds cheated. all the pieces of the puzzle have fallen down around him, and all thats left is him and his word, but he doesnt even have his word, cause he hasnt really denied anything. YOU”RE IGNORANT. just cause a court hasnt found him guilty, doesnt mean he’s innocent.
Good point with OJ, you think he’s innocent too? I bet Bin Laden wasnt really the one behind 911 either. Lets see, the never found robert blake guilty did they? Im sure it wasnt his bazillion dollars that got him off. Hmm, lindsay lohan hasnt been charged with anything, but they popo found cocaine in her car at the scene of the accident. I mean, somehwere along the line, when you get outta first grade, you learn to connect the dots, and remove your head from your ass, and the world becomes this bright playground of opportunity and common sense.
I dunno if everyone could hit 750 HRs in a 20 year career, but I DO KNOW that hank aaron did, without cheating, and i know that bonds did too, and cheated. I am excited to see Griffy Junior break 600 and beyond, i hope his body holds up, you know, the one that god made for him, and this will all be pointless in 10 years anyway when A-Rod breaks this tainted new record.
In Short, YOURE A FUCKING MORON.
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:47 PM
Hey Johnny…Douche? Thanks…you like the name calling fine…Did he test positive?…I think he did it..I am not happy he did it and I don’t like how it breaks the record… Unfortunately more will come out from the last 10 years and we will look at this era and see alot of our “heroes” did the same thing. Oh yeah last I checked Guillermo Mota, Juan Rincon, Rafael Betancourt, Ryan Franklin, Carlos Almanzar, Felix Heredia, and Jason Grimsley all were Major League Pitchers who were suspended for Steroid use…the point being .. a lot of guys you would never think of are testing positive, some of that has to be taken in to the equation of Bonds as well…your reasoning with the Physics is only part of hitting because no where in there to you compensate for temperature, air resistence, speed, velocity of the pitch , even with all of that and the juice..he has to hit the ball…and I of course can not go back to 1998 with no testing but How about 2004? 2005? 2006? or 2007? it is all assumptions what he did and how he did it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Still no testing in 04,05,06,07 etc. Not for HGH.
All you’re doing is splitting hairs, it feels like you’re filibustering on behalf of Bonds. What the hell is your point Roman, to restate everything I say, then finish with, but that makes it all ok for Barry. I mean what side are you on? You’re agreeing with me one second, then sucking of barry again in another. Please understand i fully understand the mechanics of pitching and batting. Yes, He has to hit the ball, and for someone that would have been a shu-in for the hall before he started cheating, hitting shouldnt have been that hard then.
I will challenge you to find a single person in baseball history who’s numbers have increased with such great significance in production, after the age of 35.
Lets look at a few things here too. WE all know bonds would have been great, but he ruined it for himself. Prior to 1998, which was the stated year that his breaking point was reached when watching Mcguire and sosa, both cheaters as well, stealing the spotlight he felt he deserved. well, a whopping year and a half later, make that a year and a half of bulk later, AFTER A REMARKABLY CONSISTANT CAREER, Bonds all of a sudden, after turning like 35 mind you, hits 73, 45,46,45 home runs, when in the previous 11 years of his career, which typically classifies as one’s prime years in the game he only broke 40, 3 times, barely.
even more incriminating i feel is that after presumably using roids from 1999 thru 2004 AT LEAST, his body breaks down and he play’s 14 games in2005, the pique of the steroid scandal and testing begins to come to the forefront.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:13 PM
Thanks Johnny for making a complete ass of yourself.
1. I had the honor to meet Barry in 97 at a game against the Braves as a Senior in high school who gave me advise as a player to go after what I love which was baseball. I took that talk to heart and the guy I hated (if you are a braves fan you hated Bonds with a passion in the 90’s) became a good guy to me.
I am not defending steroids users at all. However just like I can’t hold anything against Babe Ruth for not playing Black players, I can’t hold it against Barry for a testing program that wasn’t in place! If the rules were in place and he cheated and was caught, you have every right to go after Barry.
But you Johnny are the moron for saying this “Barry bonds was probably taking supps that were only availible to quite well off players that could afford the hassell of cheating and covering it up.” Last I check baseball players get paid millions and it was Legal in the game at the time.
I would rather be Barry Bonds, getting tested, and NEVER FAILED A TEST than Palmerio who lied and was caught taking steroids!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 PM
If Junior hits 50 homers this year and for the next 3 years what would you say about him…that he took steroids too. He will be over the magic number of “35″.
Look both pitches and hitter probably took steroids which levels the playing field in my opinion.
If you dont want Bonds to break the record because you dont like him, I can respect that. But if you are going to hate on him breaking the record because of Alleged Steroid use then you are stupid because it was legal at the time.
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 PM
Hey Johnny, My point is that you are making it a black and white issue (not the racial type, the difinitive type) it is to me when the more we learn the more we see that the whole era was tainted. Your initial diatribe was cutting me down for thinking he should be in the All-Star game. He should. He is having about as good a year in the OF as any player in the NL in 2007. Why not be there? Your argument is fine for the Hall of Fame and it is a legit one (when you take out the physics, the name calling etc). If your are going to go ape shit and ban him for everything…then ban everyone else you think did it too and they can never participate in anything again. One more thing and not that he needs defending, Myself and DC respond to lots of posts as do you…it is not necessary to call us morons, fucking idiots, douches and the like to present a coherent argument…mostly we try to post make a point or a joke…but you are being a complete and utter FUCKING ASSHOLE in your responses…seriously…I tried to be repsectful…ok..I called you naive…you call us every name in the book…DC likes Bonds so be it…I think it is not the Crime of the Fucking Century so be it…you can think what ever you want…just know this I guaran-dam-tee you that I hit the fucking ball off the tee in tee ball better than you ever did…Steroids be damned!
July 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 PM
Oh, I thought the league minimum salary was somewhere around 250, 000. my bad. and barry makes about what, half his teams payroll? Yes, there is a big difference.
You’re a tool for bonerizing Bonds, and yes, you can hold it against them even though there was no testing. Its called fucking integrity and honesty. OBVIOUSLY YOU ARENT FAMILIAR WITH THESE TERMS SO IF YOU LIKE YOUR BASEBALL PLAYERS TO BREAK FEDERAL LAW AND DISSREGARD THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, THEN IM SORRY FOR EVER ARGUING WITH YOU
July 2nd, 2007 at 10:13 PM
Hold it player. I am sorry to get into a argument with someone who wants to call people names and through a childish hissy fit about Barry Bonds! You are probably one of those guys who wanted to throw Tank Johnson under the bus because he was a guy out at 3 in the morning and who has never did anything wrong in your life. You are not God and you are not anyone judge. If Barry did it, he has to answer to God and himself for that. Grow up, stop drinking the hateraid and chill!
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:51 AM
johnny, you need to chill, bro. bonds’s ops this season is over 1100. steroid-free.
July 3rd, 2007 at 4:10 AM
Um, yes, I live in Chicago, and yes, Tank deserved to be cut by the bears with no questions asked after he was arrested in arizona. why? because tank made a personal promise to the bears organization that he would not get into any further trouble with the police, a promise that was made very clear to him that if broken, that his ass would be gone. Furthermore, I applaude the bears for sticking to thier convictions and having a little bit of class and again, a big word for you, I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y. what a big damn shock that dallas was the first team to be rumored to want to pick up tank, hours after the bears described the conditions of his dissmissal. Have I done wrong? Yes, but i thought we were talking about the numerous ways in which you are enabling this kind of rediculous behavior and conduct. I personally liked my athletes much better when they still were role models, and didnt look like frickin greedy, self-righteous fools that dont give a damn how much you pay for their jersey, just so long as you pay for it.
You are right again, i am not god. wow, 2 solid points in one post. considering i am not a christian, you can say whatever you want about my moral values. im not going to say anything about yours, but yes, since barry bonds plays in a park that was paid for by taxpayers, his salery is paid for by fans that see him play, and kids look up to him because he plays a sport they’ve grown up loving and idolize his records, he is fukcing public domain. when you cannot escape the shadow cast by a public figure, then you have every right to criticize them, and moreover as an american, ill judge who i want, when i want. perks of freedom i guess. there is no childish hissy fit though as you put it, its goddamn common sense. i wouldnt be so vile about it if you werent unable to reason, but you seem to be so there ya have it.
Lemme just ask a hypothetical question. when you were young, learning to play ball, what if someone told you that you would never become the greatest player ever unless you cheated. What you think about that? would you quit, would you not believe it?
You guys have all said you think he cheated. so, you’re 100% ok with the record being completely fraudulent simply because everyone else (as far as you know) cheated too, so its ok? forget about the legacy of players that played the game right. forget about the dimentions of the field and basepaths that havent majorly changed in over 100 years. its ok that some players took roids to make all that not matter in persuit of personal achievements sought under ill-gotton means.
I dont care really, whatever, you guys are all rediculous in your defense of bonds. i dunno what you are so damn enamored with, but all i see when i see him is an angry old man, with a poisoned crippled body, full of hate and deception, and full of the juice, who has over the course of his career been a complaining, crybaby, me me me first, cheater who has continually dissed fans, teammates, media, etc etc, etc, the list goes on forever. enjoy having the balls of a false idol on ur chin boys, cause whatever this dickhead “achieves” is going to be wiped outta the books eventaully anyways, which will in time prove my point that you jerkoffs are somehow managing to miss. blissfull ignorance right? enjoy it douchebags.
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 AM
If the Bears as so much “class and integrity” then Tank Johnson would never have played in the Super Bowl. SO because he gets pulled over for speeding now, which, now that there was no DUI, is the only thing he did, now the Bears in the OFFSEASON show a ton of class by dropping him for doing 40 in an 25….what Class…What Integrity!
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:22 PM
You’re retarted, I don’t get it. What are you not understanding about Tank Johnson? Tank has had 2 arrests prior to his multipul gun charges and friend being shot in the nightclub. Ok so, the Bears immeadetly suspend him for one, or two games, the NFL doesn’t do ANYTHING bc the courts hadn’t made a decesion on anything yet, and THE COURT SYSTEM, specifically a Circut Judge said that it was OK for Tank to leave the state and yes, play in the superbowl. If you have a problem with the legal system, take it up with Washington, not me. The Bears took initive to suspend him on their own. Then, once the court ruled against Tank, they made a deal with him, because he was part of the family, and they wanted to help him, they explained a deal to Tank, that he agreed to 100%, that they wanted to help him put his life together in a positive way. Tank said he wanted that help, he said he wanted to be NFL Man of the Year. Ok, so they agree to keep him and help him, despite what he is costing the team being off the field. Keep in mind, he committed no violent crimes that put him in jail or anything, he was busted for not having gun registration cards for his legal weapons, registration cards that in his homestate of Arizona are not required for gun ownership, moreover in Illinois, you cannot have said card unless you are an Illinois resident, which Tank was not. So Tank agreed to the Bears deal of completely staying out of trouble and changing his lifestyle to reflect a more positive personal character. Obviously, when a 300 pound man is pulled over, suspected of drinking, and over an hour after his arrest, a blood test shows him to be barely under the legal limit, you can say two things: 1) He was definitely OVER the limit when the police pulled him over, 2) He was most likely drunk, as it takes a 300 pound man over 5-6 beers to achieve such BAC levels. So what does this mean? It means Tank fucked up, and its all on Tank, because clearly Der Kommisar saw something in Tank to give him the reduced suspension deal, and the Bears did everything they could to help a troubled player turn his life around, but like Jerry Angelo said, Tanks actions compromised the INTEGRITY OF THE BEARS ORGANIZATION and embarassed the club as well. He got what he deserved and knows it, why do you think he expressed deep regret. He knew he blew his opportunity. You know nearly the ENTIRE Bears team went to visit that bitch in prison. Lovie, Jerry Angelo, Ted Phillips, the whole damn organization tried to help that kid.
I hope you feel like the idiot you are Roman, cause it doesnt get much clearer, or just than that.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:59 PM
You talk about the word I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y mr. johnny. And you applaud your team the bears for cutting him. If they wanted to cut him they should have not let him play in the Super bowl. Period.
Here is the problem with today’s society. The Media is like a gossip column wanting to know everything about a person’s life. If it sells, you get a raise and keep your job. If you made the same amount of money that a NFL, NBA or MLB player made, you would not be at home all the time in the OFF SEASON. You can go drink a beer with your friends, go to a club with your friends but Athletes are not suppose to do the same thing. Please.
I am a parent of 3 kids and even though my kids like athletes on tv, they are not they role models. My wife and I are. Teachers are, People at my church are. Its the real world. I have kids who I coach all the time say that they don’t want to be superstars because of how people treat stars in the media and in public. They don’t want to be treated the same way. They would rather play for the love of the game and go to college and become a doctor, firefighter, or anything else. Money make people do stupid things. You either have it and think you are better than some people or you dont have it and are jealous of it because you want it. No one is perfect and athletes are human just like you and I are. Just because a athlete or anyone makes more money than me doesnt make them any better or worse than me. Grow up man!
July 3rd, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Sounds like you have good kids DC, but you are nieve in thinking that Athletes dont serve as role models for a majority of kids in society.
The Bears NEVER wanted to cut Tank. Tank cut himself by breaking a promise he made to the team that in turn caused the team to publically back Tank. This is where integrity comes into play ok. Tank broke his promise to the team showing a lacktherof, and the Bears made good on their promise to Tank that effing up again would result in his dissmissal. I know what its like to go out and have a few beers, but I havent been pulled over, been accused of being drunk, and then refuse a breathalizer in a last attempt to save my career in hopes that an hour or two would pass and lower my BAC before given a blood test ok. You can say police profile athletes, they probably do, they dont call um pigs for nothing. But the fact remains that tank was a criminal offender, the bears tried to help him rectify that and turn his life around. He aparently thought he knew what was best, and it turns out he was wrong.
“You can go drink a beer with your friends, go to a club with your friends but Athletes are not suppose to do the same thing. Please.”
- I dont expect him not to ever touch the stuff, but last I checked, athelets werent supposed to be above the law, correct? Last I checked, no one is supposed to drink and get behind the wheel of a fucking car. So what is it? You think it was ok for tank to drink and drive? What if you kids were on the way home from practice and tank was on the road? what you think about that? Dont tell me he wasnt drunk either.
July 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 PM
Big Lead. I think you mean steroids +”working out to increase strength and or bat speed (just any old workout will not do)” may lead to increased strength / bat speed. It’s amazing how many times the “workout” variable is left out when discussing the “benefits” of steriods. Could it be because there is no way to determine how much, if any increase in production is due to steriods vs. working out? If people could get a muscular build, better eyesight, etc. just by sticking a needed in their butts or ingesting some sort of magic potion (steriods), you would not be able to keep the stuff in stock.