As the Vick Turns
Uncategorized July 9th. 2007, 6:20pm
The feds search of Falcons quarterback Mike Vick’s Newport Newz property on Friday didn’t turn up much – except that they were able to definitively say that his house was ground zero for a massive dogfighting ring that stretched into seven states. Didn’t we already kind of know this?
But before you think the Feds are about to lock up Vick and throw away the key, crippling the Falcons playoff hopes before the preseason even begins (Joey Harrington, nooooooo!), it’s unlikely Vick will get indicted. So sayeth ESPN. Or did they call this race too early?
Profootball talk has been all over the Vick investigation in the same way that Woody Paige is all over makeup artists. After the jump, PFT chronicles an interesting connection between ESPN’s Len Pasquarelli and the Vick case:
Also, the presence of Len Pasquarelli’s name in the report makes it automatically suspect, in our opinion. Pasquarelli has been the most ardent Vick apologist since news of the apparent dog-fighting operation first broke, due in large part (we believe) to Pasquarelli’s friendship with Vick’s agent, Joel Segal.
For the past two months, Pasquarelli has been urging folks not to jump to conclusions prematurely. So why should anyone conclude at this point that the guy who owned the property that hosted the dog fights won’t be held legally responsible?
ESPN reports that at least three people are expected to be indicted. But that could merely be the first wave of the indictments. Doesn’t anyone think that the folks who are charged will receive offers of leniency or immunity in exchange for giving up others who might have been involved?
And why would the feds tell the Falcons, the league, or anyone else that Vick likely won’t be indicted? If that aspect of the report is true, maybe the feds are hoping that Vick will let his guard down a bit, perhaps by not focusing his efforts on ensuring that the guys who get indicted won’t snitch.
While this is news, we’re still can’t get too excited about this case. We’re bottom line kind of guys, and the febrile speculation about Vick’s future with the Falcons simply bores us. It’s fun to imagine Joey Harrington screwing up any offense … but if we had to guess, athletes skate 90% of the time in these type of cases, and we’re going to guess somebody takes the fall for Vick.
Mike Vick will not be indicted. Shhhhhhhhh! (Starting Five)
Is Mike Vick Friendly to a Fault? (Pilot)
Vick Investigation (ProFootball Talk)
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July 9th, 2007 at 6:29 PM
“Doesn’t anyone think that the folks who are charged will receive offers of leniency or immunity in exchange for giving up others who might have been involved? ”
Yep. They get the small guys early, back them into a corner, and then get them to squeal on the bigger guys.
I’ve probably been watching too many mob movies.
July 9th, 2007 at 6:46 PM
Len Pasquarelli is a beautiful man.
July 9th, 2007 at 6:50 PM
The highest comedy coming out of this whole Vick situation has been the conspiratorial hypothesizing and general lamentations about the lurid mess at the NOIS blog.
And I quote from NOIS: “The government will not rest until the career of the current flagship Negro QB has been destroyed.
This point can now no longer be argued.
And, the NFL is working hand in hand with them to assure the completion of the scheme. A scheme, which undoubtedly, the Falcons have no interest in delaying: it will save them millions.
The timing of the raid is interesting. Just last week, Tank Johnson’s career with the Bears was ended. Based upon his being pulled over and “charged” with a DUI. The Bears, rightfully, said they had enough. One can’t begrudge the Bears for deciding the course of action they took.
The only problem was that after Johnson was successfully cut, the police decided that no crime was committed!
But the damage could not be undone. And now, Johnson and the plethora of mouths he feed, teeter on the possibility of starvation.
Clearly, the forces working so diligently to destroy the Negro QB were the same fiends tirelessly ensuring the demise of Johnson.”
Later on, NOIS claims the U.S. prefers terrorists to Negro QBs.
Uh-huh. Right. To quote a middle school teacher of mine – who was black – and who used this statement to describe any manner of kid who was acting out (regardless of skin tone):
Vick “ain’t got no home training.”
In other words, no common fucking sense. Be responsible for your property and what goes on there.
July 9th, 2007 at 6:52 PM
And postscript to NOIS: people in Darfur and in drought-stricken parts of Africa “teeter on the possibility of starvation.”
NOT Tank Johnson and his family.
July 9th, 2007 at 6:54 PM
The guys at The Starting 5 got it right from the start. Pasquarelli must be the only ESPN/SI/Yahoo/etc. guy who DIDN’T jump all over Vick from the get-go. I certainly heard Schrutebag do it. Vick was crucified in the media before any substantial investigation had been done. As the guys at Starting 5 pointed out, a lady was raped at Patrick Kerney’s house while he was home, but not too much noise was made about that incident. Patrick Kerney is white, right? With “clean-cut” Duncan and LeBron making waves at the end of the NBA season , the media chose their “thug” (i.e. rich young black dude) of the moment to shred, and it happened to be Vick. Seems a witch-hunt to me. I’ll reserve judgement until the facts come out.
July 9th, 2007 at 6:54 PM
Hey , Hank
Thanks for that nonsense
July 9th, 2007 at 6:56 PM
The starting five is great!
July 9th, 2007 at 7:04 PM
Every fucking thing that comes out of Pastabelly’s computer is influenced by agents.
July 9th, 2007 at 7:05 PM
Breaking News:
Pasquarelli is Don Vito’s twin brother.
July 9th, 2007 at 7:20 PM
Even a broken clock like Pasquarelli can be right twice a day.
The 2 Live Stews made Skip Bayless look foolish on this topic on First Take. Of course, making Skip look foolish on any topic is not difficult.
July 9th, 2007 at 8:57 PM
“As the guys at Starting 5 pointed out, a lady was raped at Patrick Kerney’s house while he was home, but not too much noise was made about that incident.”
The thing about the Kerney thing is the lady did not say she was raped by Kerney. The lady met the rapist at a bar in Buckhead and brought him to Kerney’s house herself. Kereny was in his own bed asleep.
Does anyone think the Vick case and Kerney case have a parallel?
July 9th, 2007 at 9:25 PM
We did an entire post on Kearney.
Vick/Kearney are apples/oranges. Vick is one of the league’s top players, one of the most marketable, and has one of the best-selling jerseys. And then you take into account commercials, salary, etc and you really can’t compare the two.
Shelden Williams from Duke got booted from HS for some kind of incident with a female. I won’t get into particulars and say assault or rape because I don’t have the time to google (feel free to), but did that incident get as much coverage as the Reddick DWI? It cuts both ways, people.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:39 PM
Shelden was a high school player in Oklahoma. JJ was player of the year at Duke the most televised ncaa basketball school. Thats like Apples / Beluga Caviar. The Vick/Kearney seems a decent comparisons for the events that took place that would lead to charges. Something happening at their homes without them knowing but they could conceivably be associated with a crime.
July 9th, 2007 at 9:49 PM
Williams was a top 10 HS prospect going to DUKE.
Fine, at the time, both Vick and Redick were at the top of their sport and Williams/Kearney were all-pros.
Listen, i’m a full believer that racism is still happening in sports, but this mike vick case is absurd. I’m probably in the top 5% of Vick apologists on the planet. HUGE fan. But of course he knew what was going on in his home. He’s a massive dog fan!
July 9th, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Hmm … where does Donovan McNabb (you know, the Negro QB drafted before Vick who actually got to a Super Bowl) fit into this so-called conspiracy?
July 9th, 2007 at 10:19 PM
Funny, people use the “Patrick Kerney’s not a popular player” reason to say why it wasn’t publicized. But….why did we hear about Fred Evans then? Why do we hear about AJ Nicholson? And you can say that Kerney’s rapist said Vick didn’t do it…but at the same time….why didnt ESPN jump all over the story of “Girl Raped in Patrick Kerney’s House while Kerney present”? Doesn’t that seem like a typical ESPN story, regardless of Kerney was actually implicated. But no….only Vick matters. When the media turns on a player (like Vick now…or like Lebron with the jersey story (remember? He was being labelled a thug back then)) they’ll find anything to try to destroy them. Unfortunately Vick gave them a bit to run with. I’m sure when he’s never indicted or charged people will use the “he’s rich/bribed people/let his cousins take the bait” excuse as to why he got off. He can never be innocent. Never.
July 9th, 2007 at 10:46 PM
To: Ap,
Vick is not innocent. He himself said “I never go there,” yet he is pictured (or was) at the location on his own f***ing website. That’s proof. Ray Buchanan admitting that Vick is into dogfighting is proof. The authorities didn’t go after Vick, they simply searched his property after arresting his cousin. As for Lenny Pastabelly, he’s in the pocket of the agents, he lost his mojo years ago…who’s paying you off, Ap? The folks at NOIS? People are going after Vick not because of color or fame or money, they’re going after him because it’s easy–he’s already proven himself guilty, just read his quotes. Or maybe you agree with his cousin that the dogs were “planted”.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:01 PM
“Vick is not innocent. He himself said “I never go there,†yet he is pictured (or was) at the location on his own f***ing website.”
Nobody said he was very bright.
“Or maybe you agree with his cousin that the dogs were “plantedâ€.”
Yea they were planted after they fought and lost.
I think it’s a bit early to say Vick is not going to be charged. It’s going to come when you and he least expects it, but it’s going to come.
Former Falcon Fan of 25 years (unless they dump him)
July 10th, 2007 at 1:35 PM
This is less of a race issue and more of a profile issue. A story about how Mike Vick, touted as the “future of the NFL,” “the redefiner of the QB position” just a few years ago could be indicted is a story that the news agencies can “sell.” Pat Kearney sleeping won’t draw an audience.
Mark Chmura is white and ESPN ran with his alleged rape story. It’s all about what they can package best.
I agree with TBL that racism surely still exists in sports and all over our society. But it’s not always the determining factor. In this case, it’s Vick’s name recognition and not his skin color that is dribing this story. It also doesn’t help that he’s run into other legal/character issues in the last several months.
July 10th, 2007 at 1:36 PM
dribing = driving
July 11th, 2007 at 12:55 AM
The real culprit in this is Peyton Manning, and I have the proof. However if you want to talk about big names, what about Brett Favre threatening to boycott the super bowl because the NFL wouldn’t revoke his “no alcohol” after care program???
Didn’t Favre commit felony prescription drug fraud when he had his wife get him prescription painkillers, which he abused. Yet people talk about his toughness to this day and his consecutive game streak, wouldn’t painkillers count that one out?
Favre has always been a womanizer and a drunk, probably still is a drunk. He is not a team player, when asked about helping out Aaron Rodgers he said “not my job”. Some team player?
We won’t even get into the way he screwed over teammate Javon Walker basically running him out of town, then had the audacity to complain that management won’t get him any talent at receiver.
In his book he wrote I was so constipated from abusing painkillers that I wanted to cut my azzhole open. WOW, no story there though.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:09 PM
“Didn’t Favre commit felony prescription drug fraud when he had his wife get him prescription painkillers,…”
You know Farve is an intelligent being. If Farve is/was abusing his own body and he knows he has a problem it’s on him.
I think it’s different if abuse involves children or animals. Children or animals cannot help themselves so we must step in and protect them with laws and punishment.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:43 PM
The charges of racism in this matter is absurd!
Being white sure did not help the Duke lacrosse team did it? With the absence of proof and the absence of a credible victim the DA still went forward didnt he?
I think it is a mixture of the star power of the athlete and whatever else is going on at the time. Right now, nothing else is going on as BIG as the Vick story. Throw in another superstar athlete being charged with something and Vick will receive that much less exposure.