About the Bears and Returning to the Super Bowl …
Uncategorized July 11th. 2007, 5:58pm
So Bears fans … have you looked at the schedule yet? Just in case you had, but maybe forget, here are two highlights that jump out at us:
* seven playoff teams
* opening the season against three playoff teams
Yes, Kansas City is a joke. No quarterback, Larry Johnson’s holding out, plus it’s at home. We’ll give it to you. But let’s assume losses in San Diego and against Dallas (which we think will be very good, despite the lack of Tuna). Going on the road against bound-to-be-improved Detroit and Green Bay may be more challening than last year … let’s say Chicago splits those two. Minnesota’s terrible, but winning in Philly – D Mac’s back! – is never a given. That’s already four losses we’re projecting, and that doesn’t even include a trip to Seattle, and home games against 2006 playoff teams Seattle and the New York Giants, plus a game against always-difficult Denver. We’re not going on record – yet – with a 9-7 projection for the Bears, but don’t go thinking 12-4 is going to happen.
By contrast the Saints face just four 2006 playoff teams (at Indy, at Seattle, vs. Philly and at Chicago) and didn’t lose their leading rusher from last season. Yes, there are two games against Carolina, and yes, the defense is still questionable. But from the look of things, our guess would be the Saints could be closer to an 11-5 season then the Bears. Could part of this be due to our obsession with Reggie Bush? Perhaps. We’re also going to just put these three teams out there as potential NFC winners: Carolina, Philly and Arizona. And yes, we really think Arizona will be better than everyone’s sexy pick, San Fran.
Discuss.
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July 11th, 2007 at 6:06 PM
You’re so stupid. It’s the NFC. The Bears are the ONLY close to AFC caliber team. All they have to do is win enough games to make the playoffs and they are an automatic for the Super Bowl.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:12 PM
How does somebody call the Cheifs a “joke ” the last time I checked they did make the playoffs last year In the AFC the stronger of the two con.They finished Second in a tough AFC west under a first year coach, With a carrer back up as their Starter .They are the KC Cheifs (best fans in the league )Please .
July 11th, 2007 at 6:20 PM
Detroit, Minnesota, and Green Bay will still be terrible.
Hooray, Bear!
July 11th, 2007 at 6:20 PM
In a division with the Lions, Packers, and Vikings…..and with the best defense in the NFL (with Tommie Harris and Mike Brown)…..there is no reason to think they can’t be right back in the thick of things again next year.
What a stupid post. Anyone can look at a schedule and pick wins and losses. This post was put up just to antagonize Bears fans and fish for comments. What a joke.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:23 PM
Herman Edwards is a terrible coach basically…regardless of how they faired last year, Edwards will only drive this team down…remember John Gruden winning the Super Bowl w/ TB and beating the Raiders, his old team??…where has TB been since?…Herm got everything he did with the players he inherited from Vermeil and not based on schemes or strategy that he produced…KC is not good and has seen their best days for now…
July 11th, 2007 at 6:23 PM
“all they have to do is win enough games to make the playoffs…”
quite a valid observation
as for the chiefs? please pretty much sums it up
July 11th, 2007 at 6:27 PM
rudy called you stupid and then said the Bears “are an automatic for the Super Bowl”…how ironic…
this is such a ridiculous comment if you are truly an NFL fan…
July 11th, 2007 at 6:30 PM
Heres whats gonna happen with my Bears. Briggs is gonna hold out the first ten games, and without him, they’re going to be mediocre. They lose the first two games, causeing everyone to start panicking. Since their division is so bad, they’ll hang around .500 until Briggs comes back. Once hes back, he’s going to suck for the rest of the regualr season because he won’t be in game shape and he’ll have a ton a pressure on him to play well. The Bears sneak into the playoffs by winning the division at 9-7. In the first game of the playoffs is when everything starts clicking. Benson continues to truck stick people, G-Man is throwing bombs to G-reg and Berrian, and Briggs plays liek an animal. They run threw the NFC (probably beating every team by at least three touchdowns), and win the Super Bowl (probably against a team other then NE), by roughly 35 points.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:32 PM
agreed
July 11th, 2007 at 6:33 PM
Bears are definitely a lock for the playoffs, where they go from there, who knows? But they are winning that terrible division again fo’ sho’.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:33 PM
Purdue Matt bitches about a post that was put up to fish for comments…then comments on it.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:38 PM
And who oh great voice from above is the new Chargers Coach? Yea, exactly…. THE GREAT NORV TURNER! If an entire offseason of staff turnover for San Diego does nothing to team chemisty and gameplan, then it would have to be a first. LT is not enough to beat the Bears alone, and unless Norv Turner somehow learned to coach this offseason, I see the Bears beating the Chargers. I think Philip Rivers will step backwards this season in a completely new system with a boner coach and new personel around him. He played lights out last year, and I think that learning a new system will slow his progression. ITS NORV TURNER.
The Cheifs, hmmm, they have a 40 year old backup quarterback now? What happened to their 40 year old starter? Oh, Phins… My bad.
Seattle is not the same team since their O-Line was broken up, Hasselback is, well, their offense underachieved greatly last season, and Alexander well, lets just say that I dont lose sleep thinking about Seattle and Dion Branch. Their defense was severely exposed all of last year as well and Lofa is the only guy not Lofing on that D.
Again, with Dallas, I think that these teams with a new coach always take a little time to Gel and get on the same page as the new commander. Didnt Dallas sign wade phillips to be their new coach? Yes, they did, and in fact, chubs has not lasted in a head coaching position for more than 2 seasons in all 5 of his tries. Not sure what JJ saw in him other than he was another good ole boy from TEXAS to hire for the job. And tony Romo, let me tell you i went to EIU while he did, met him a couple times, partied; alright guy. funny thing i think is that the ESPN guys will suck him off for a few more games until he flopps and they torch him.
Has Carolina’s quarterback all of a sudden not kinda sucked somehow? Do they still only have one receiver? do they still not know how to run the ball?
And the Eagles pick, since they got rid of Garcia, im assuming your pick of them is contingient to Donny making it through the whole season, a feat he hasnt accomplished since 2003? and didnt they draft that Kolb kid?
Broncos, essentially a first year quarterback. will dissappoint.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:46 PM
Sorry Bears fans but when Jon fuggin’ Kitna is the better QB as compared to yours you’re not going very far.
The Bears should make the playoffs but they’re one & done if it happens.
July 11th, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Football already?
You know the WNBA season is almost at its half-way point, you could talk about whatever it is that is important in their season. And NASCAR is still going on, I think. And isn’t there a teen drama you guys watch that you could give us an update on? But NFL, four months before the season starts?
July 11th, 2007 at 6:59 PM
Johnny “McNabb hasn’t made it through a full season since 2003.” Really? What about 2004, when they made it to the Super Bowl? Yes, he is a health is a risk, but Feeley has had success in the Eagles system before and could maybe hold things down if Donovan misses a game or two.
Anyway, about the Bears. I would disagree they have the BEST defense in football. Sure, they’re up there, but if Briggs sits out that would hurt, not to mention they are relying on Rex Grossman and the unproven Cedric Benson to carry the offense. I think losing Thomas Jones will hurt a lot more than some Bears fans realize
July 11th, 2007 at 7:00 PM
Personally, I’m hoping the Bears make it back to the Super Bowl again. That way we can demonstrate just how superior a conference the AFC is once again. Maybe this time we’ll go for 500-plus offensive yards and actually finish some of those drives off with touchdowns.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:00 PM
training camps start in a couple weeks. you could comment elsewhere if football is not your thing.
Jon Kitna predicted 50 td passes and 10+ wins for detroit. its all going to make watching them lose 13 games that much more fun…..AGAIN.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:06 PM
It clear to see that , there is reason they play the games .PC you just proved my point thank you. “herman is a terrible coach Basiclly ” really he made the playoffs with a back up QB with his “star”down .Also when in New York he had Nothing , really nothing . Pc when we are talking about the KC cheifs please don’t mention Jon Gurden , They have never even been on the same staff . It’s way to early to talk about who is going to win any ways . But the Cheif are a overachiving team(last season) and you have to credit the Coach and the front office .you also say “…reguardless how they faried ” this is the most terrible thing you could say , So If a coach wins you can’t use that as a base .So even if Herman Edwards wins he is still a bad coach , Really?
July 11th, 2007 at 7:09 PM
Uh, McNabb had to sit out the last game of the season in 2004, bringing his grand total of starts that regular season to 15. that is 1 shy buddy, i know its a technicallity, so dont remind me, but the point stands. keep praying aj feely doesnt trip over his own shoelaces WHEN he is asked to fill in for Donny, whom the Eagles hate to protect.
Regarding the Bears, out of the 40 or so players that have been designated a “franchise” player since the rule has come about, i dont think any has missed a single game yet due to a hold out, as Briggs is currently threatening to do. I doubt he misses a game. Either ways, he just recently came crawling back to the Bears with his scumbag agent rosenhouse trying to work something out; read: insert foot into mouth.
As you claim to be ok with McNabb, I will say the same for Grossman, as I EXPECT him to have a huge season now that they have provided him with some legit weapons and a couple safety nets. This is his SECOND season as a starter, and as far as history goes, its been proven that quarterbacks make the biggest strides in this timeframe, plus, rex had 3 years to observe the game.
Mark my words, Cedric Benson will top 1500 yards rushing. laugh all you want, but you will be greatly surprised. The loss of Jones hurts from a mentality standpoint and leadership, but as far as skills, ability, and potential, Benson takes the cake. and its not like Peterson is a slouch whatsoever, and we got Warrick Dunn2 for 3rd downs with a serious threat at tight end. Grossman will have to really work hard to fail this season.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:19 PM
Couple things about the bears, they secondary will be better with the addition of Archuletta (sp?) as a back up because brown will miss games. Briggs or no Briggs they have a capable replacement, the biggest issue is going to be at DT, they have to stay healthy and maybe Adams can surprise since he wasn’t a good fit in San Fran’s scheme and should fit in the bears gap d.
Offense they have more weapons, knock Grossman he isn’t great but he was basically a rookie last year. Olsen should open up the middle and the recieving core will be better. Personally I think a lot is going to hinge on Bradley staying healthy by all accounts he looked great in OTAs. Grossman has shown flashes and with that D he doesn’t need to do much, so with another year he might be a capable QB, which is all he needs to be.
The bears will win their division with ease so at worse they host a home playoff game so they won’t be one and done, so that post was idiotic.
San Diego hired the worst coach possible so wouldn’t be surprised by a letdown from them. Dallas is winnable so to assume to losses I think is stretch but possible.
Bears destroyed new york last year so don’t see why they can’t again. Also, Green Bay still is going to be terrible and Detroit got better because of one wide receiver? They still have a D that gives up 30 odd points a game and they traded there best corner. Minny doesn’t have a qb, good lines but are they going to run it 40 times a game?
Denver is going to be a tough game. I don’t expect the saints to win at chicago so that gives the bears the tie breaker if it comes down to it.
Philly is going to hinge on McNabb staying healthy (doubtful for 16 games) without Garcia to save them.
At worst I see the Bears at 10-6 but I think there D puts them in the 11 to 12 range.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:26 PM
WNBA!?!?!? Football starts in 4 months!?!?!? Are you kidding me? Did you mean to go to PerezHilton or something.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:29 PM
I love Bears fans. There is a large picture of them in Webster’s under the word “delusional”.
Don’t talk about your own team, talk about how bad everyone else is.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:30 PM
I love VAGUE REFERENCES when you can’t single out a flaw on your own.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:32 PM
Johnny, great post. you have opened my eyes to the Bears. how about we agree that the Bears and the Eagles will meet in the NFC Champ game ? we can place a bet like the mayors would. Philly Cheesesteaks for some famous Chicago Pizza.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:40 PM
“Uh, McNabb had to sit out the last game of the season in 2004, bringing his grand total of starts that regular season to 15.”
McNabb sat out the final game in 2004 along with all the rest of the Philly starters since they clinched home field around week 14. He didn’t “have” to sit out, and he certainly wasn’t hurt.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:56 PM
Hey idiot, I know what game he sat out, and I told you that I was aware that it was a technicality. Yet you couldnt resist bringing up the one topic that was completely worthless in my arguement.
McNabb may not have HAD to sit that game, but he did, didn’t he? I saw rex grossman play the last regular season game, on new years eve, when homefield was sewn up already. There is no excuse, and the bullshit behind sitting the players to rest for a week before the playoffs starts has backfired on every coach to try it yet. That resting crap is something an ESPN anal-ist would come up with when he cant find the story his producer gave him.
Regardless of whether or not he and most of the team sat that game, it doesnt change the fact that Philly doesnt protect him, and he is injury prone, now does it? I wonder what makes him injury prone? I know he runs a lot, but this is starting to look like the Eagles just can block.
July 11th, 2007 at 7:58 PM
Yeah, I think TBL just wanted to get a rise out of people with this one. While its improbable to say the Bears will get to the Superbowl this year, it is about as improbable as them going 8-8. It can be argued forever, but it can’t be argued that the Bears are one of the two best teams in the NFC. They will win their division quite easily and should be the #1 seed again because every other division in the NFC is at least competitive. I think the only teams that really can challenge the Bears are the Saints (but they’d lose again) and the Eagles (with a healthy Donovan Mcnabb). I think a healthy McNabb this year + keep the same grinding philosophy as the time with Garcia and the Eagles are your NFC Champs this year. That’s IF McNabb stays healthy, and that is as big an IF as Cedric Benson doing well, the Saints defense getting better, S. Alexander coming back, etc. Full strength though, Eagles beat the Bears and the Saints and go to the SB.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:01 PM
Johnny, McNabb sat out of the game not because of injury, but because the Eagles clinched the division by Week 13. So if you think that counts, that’s ridiculous.
And you talk about AJ Feely tripping over his own shoes? In 2002 after McNabb went down Feely went 5-1 down the stretch. I’m not saying he’s a Pro-Bowl QB, but he’s capable in our system.
If you wanna trust Grossman, that’s on you. But what do you mean provided him with a couple weapons and “safety nets.” What the hell are you talking about? They have the EXACT SAME WR’S from last year. Muhammed isn’t getting any younger.
And as far as your 1,500 yard prediction for Benson, that’s absurd. He had a good college career and has done exactly what in the NFL? He couldn’t unseat T Jones, so obviously his talent is not that much superior. Plus, he brings almost NOTHING to the passing game, while Jones was one of the better receiving threats in the NFC among RB’s.
Look, I’m far from a Bears hater. Urlacher is the best MLB in the game, and I like a lot of the guys on the team. But letting go of Thomas Jones was a bad idea in my opinion. All Benson has is potential, he hasn’t proven jack in the NFL. Just because Grossman is entering his second year means he’ll have a GREAT season? So every QB to go into their sophomore year has been awesome?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:02 PM
of any team in the league, the Eagles function the most as a system…they have brilliant coaches but usually fail to execute on the field when it counts the most…that being said, McNabb is a warrior but also is a part of that failure to execute…
he throws a nice long ball but those receptions are more a result of quality play-calling and a sturdy offensive line…when McNabb has to make the dump off, it lands at the receiver’s feet many times…if it’s not Westbrook, Philly Fan sees 3 and outs all day long…
Still, the defense is what wins games for us…those drives where the rb eats up 5 yards a carry at the end of the 3rd quarter is demoralizing every time…
July 11th, 2007 at 8:05 PM
Wow Johnny, after reading your latest post, I have to come to the conclusion that you are an idiot. Of COURSE it matters that McNabb didn’t have to sit out. He was HEALTHY and that’s the point. You say resting starters BACKFIRES on every coach. Really? Yeah it sure backfired on Andy Reid when McNabb came back two weeks later to beat the Vikings in the playoffs, huh?
And McNabbs injury history has nothing to do with the line. If you watched last year, he got hurt on a freak accident while running out of bounds. The Eagles have one of the best O-lines in football. Look it up. You clearly don’t know much about football
July 11th, 2007 at 8:18 PM
IU Sucks.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:23 PM
Johnny, try watching an Eagles game before offering up your analysis. Donovan gets hit and sacked so often because he doesn’t run enough and holds on to the ball in the pocket far too long. The Eagles probably have the best O-line in the NFL.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:29 PM
kitna saying he’ll throw for 50+ touchdowns and grab 10 wins is badass. ..and totally ridiculous.
also, someone try spelling chiefs correctly on here. i before e, kids.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:29 PM
“Hey idiot, I know what game he sat out, and I told you that I was aware that it was a technicality. Yet you couldnt resist bringing up the one topic that was completely worthless in my arguement.”
Actually, the original point of your argument was that McNabb wouldn’t make it through the season because of injury, citing (incorrectly) that he hasn’t made it through a full season since 2003.
Do you even read what you write?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:30 PM
You can breathe now steve.
Did the Eagles win the superbowl after resting their team? no, they lost it.
Other teams have chosen to rest the final week in a meaningless game and it has resulted many times in a rusty performance come playoff time, or players being injured due to the fact that a relaxed, resting atmosphere was taken by the team. I know this has happend before.
You are retarted in the first place because my point was never hinged on mcnabb and the 2004 eagles which as far as i know, NOBODY CARES ABOUT. You got quite irked at my slander of mcnabb and took this off in a whole new rediculous direction. since we are here though, andy reid and the iggs did beat the vikings, then they LOST they superbowl. was it cause the rest? who cares? that wasnt the point. the point was McNabb hasnt played a full season since 2003, WHICH IS 100% true. why is this relevant to the convesation? BECAUSE IT PROVES MY POINT THAT HE IS injury prone.
Clearly you cant read either, cause i made it clear that didnt want to discuss any of this since i was aware that it was all based on technicallities. so call yourself the idiot, not me you douche.
I wonder why mcnabb was on the run? surely it couldnt be a result of pressure in the pocket from his line failing to protect right? that never happens.
AJ Feely has career totals of 22TD’s and 21INT’s. and is a career 55% passer. excuse me for not thinking that qualified him as god. He isnt CAPABLE in any system.
As for the BEARS. The weapons added; Greg olson, deep speed threat at tight end. devin hester, possibly the games most thrilling player, added to the offense as a wide receiver threat, and a running threat, think Reggie Bush. Garrett Wolfe, warrick dunn junior, can catch passes out of the backfield, is a shifty, quick inside runner with outside speed. Cedric Benson has good hands as well, he was actually drafted by the LA Dodgers, so im sure his hands are fine. i think he had like 5 career rec, td’s at texas. also, mark bradley whom played in only like 4 games is 100% healthy and could actually be better than berrian, and rashid davis will benefit from playing more offence, since last season where he caught like 30 passes, several clutch ones, was his first on offense.
YOU ARE A BEARS HATER, DONT HIDE YOUR TRUE FEELINGS YOU PUSS.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Cedric Benson is no Thomas Jones. He will get frustrated and probably blow out his knee by Week 10 (can’t stay health). Also the Chicago D will not be able to bail out Rex Grossman and his horrific performances like they did so many times last year. The D will not be as good.
Folks will key on Devin Hester this year. Remember that great WR return man from KC that had a great year a few years back? Yeah me either and he went to St. Louis this year.
Plus Chicago drafted a TE when they already had a solid one on the roster.
Mark my words, if Chicago doesn’t win like they did last year Brian Greise will be in at QB.
Chicago may win their division but that means nothing, all the other teams are awful.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:38 PM
Geez, settle down. You must still be bitter about what Hugh Douglas did to Jim Miller’s shoulder in the 2002 playoffs.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:43 PM
So you are telling me that Thomas Jones, a 1000 yard back to a 1300 yard back, whom is 30 years old, is IRREPLACEABLE?
You are saying that a 22 or so year old All-time leading Texas rusher who averaged the same yards per carry as jones, cant replace him with his fresher legs, and better running style?
Dante Hall, he had several good seasons, but the Chiefs are soo smart as everyone proclaimed above, that they were able to completely limit his opportunities to pass catching and returns. GENIUS! also, he is not devin hester. there is a big difference.
And yes, im sure that the top tight end in the draft is going to be way too poor to unseat the great desmond clark.
and the Chicago Defense all of a sudden becoming shitty is a result of what exactly? getting healthy or adding pro bowl players?
July 11th, 2007 at 8:44 PM
Johnny, if I was a Bears hater, I would just say it. I’m just being realistic. And I don’t care about Feeley’s career numbers, I care about how he plays in Philly’s system. Like I said he went 4-1, so I’ll take that.
NOW, let me explain to you why you are a moron. You said “McNabb hasnt played a full season since 2003, WHICH IS 100% true. why is this relevant to the convesation? BECAUSE IT PROVES MY POINT THAT HE IS injury prone.”
Let me break this down as easily as possible so you understand. 2004, he missed ZERO games because of injury. Zero. So the fact that Reid rested him actually does NOTHING to “prove” your point. At all.
And so what if Benson was drafted by the Dodgers? That doesn’t prove anything about his pass-catching ability in the NFL. He’s played in 24 games, and had a TOTAL of 9 catches for 57 yards. Outstanding.
THEN, you go on to compare Devin Hester to Reggie Bush? That’s hilarious. Hester had an amazing season last year. By far the scariest returner in the game, and fast as hell. But he’s not an offensive player. He couldn’t even make it as a consistent WR at the U, playing against college defenses. No way he becomes a stud in the NFL as a position player.
And again, please know something about the Eagles line before you talk about protection.
July 11th, 2007 at 8:54 PM
i said think reggie bush, as in the way the saints use him, not that he was reggie bush. THINK, i know its aparently very hard for you. I wonder if the inconsistant results of his play at 12 different positions at the U had anything to do with the fact that he was playing 12 different positions?
All i know about the eagles line is that they havent been able to keep mcnabb from being injured. say all you want, but fact is, he has had 1 non-injury season since 2003, (is that better, i changed it a little bit so you stop your whining) AND hasnt played a full 16 game season and playoffs since 2002, and obviously one year was due to ‘resting’ although he didnt seem rested when he puked all over the field on the final drive of the superbowl he lost.
feely 4-1 in spot starts over a 5 year period where he was traded to another team in that span. but yea, ill take that, backups always produce like you expect them to, thats why so many have such long careers backing up real quarterbacks that dont suck.
as for benson, most of his play in the 2 seasons with the bears has been AS A BACKUP, IN GARBAGE TIME, WHERE TYPICALLY A CLASSY TEAM LIKE THE BEARS DOESNT RUN UP THE SCORE BY PASSING. also, the bears have been trying to get a feel for benson since he came here, he is a bit of an oddball. so 9 catches in limited time is pretty decent considering there is usually no reason to pass by the time he is in in the past.
Good points though
July 11th, 2007 at 9:02 PM
Wow. You obviously did not watch a single game that McNabb got injured in. Please go look at the sacks allowed by Eagles vs. other teams. The injuries McNabb suffered were freak injuries. He has one of the best lines in the game.
And actually, no, Feely didn’t go 4-1 in “spot starts” as a backup. He went 4-1 in 5 straight games with the Eagles’ playoff hopes on the line.
Also, the reason Hester played so many different positions in college is because Miami couldn’t find one that he was consistently good enough at. If you actually paid attention to his college career, you would know that. His coaches even admitted it.
And to say it’s OK that Benson only had 9 receptions because he played in “garbage time” is so stupid. I kept track of almost every Bears game last year (Being a huge Urlacher fan) and he got PT early in the game. He just wasn’t included in passing downs because he can’t block or receive nearly as well as Thomas Jones. I just hope you watch more football next season so you actually know what you’re talking about
July 11th, 2007 at 9:06 PM
By comparison, Maurice Jones-Drew was in the same position as Benson, being a backup. He had 166 carries to Benson’s 157. BUT, he had 46 receptions last season, while Benson had 8. Hmmm…
July 11th, 2007 at 9:10 PM
OK OK guys and gals. let’s be calm. it’s only July 11th. How bout that Arena League?
July 11th, 2007 at 9:13 PM
Sorry, my bad, I forgot I was talking to a Philly Phan that knows all. I’ll just quit now before your head explodes……… Dumbass.
Benson supposedly cannot block, I would guess early in games, on passing downs, that would be pretty important. But hey, you know everything and are an expert at intelligently expressing your all-powerful-never-fails-knowledge, i mean opinion.
July 11th, 2007 at 9:28 PM
any Philly fans here going to see the 10,000th loss this weekend ?
July 11th, 2007 at 9:33 PM
i think the bears will be a lock for the playoffs seeing as how their defence and special teams will get them around 4-5 wins in their division alone, and in the NFC it only takes 8 to make the playoffs. the bears aren’t going 7-9 or worse. as far as winning the conference, they’re going nowhere with grossman. believe me, i like the bears and bears fans, but if you all say grossman is the answer i really think the organization needs to change the question. my pick for the loser of the super bowl would have to be st. louis or seattle – a team that has a decent offence and can rattle off a few post-season wins in a watered down conference. dallas has a terrible head coach, new orleans was a fluke, and philly never seems to stay healthy. just one man’s opinion, though.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Believe me, as a bears fan, you dont want to be talking about who your second string quarterback is at any time during the offseason because that means that there is a lack of confidence in the starter. knowing all too well the pitfalls of this problem, i would much rather know 100% that there is confidence in the quarterback position, and lovie smith tells me its all good. the fact that you are already leaning on aj feely in your arguement does not bode well for you either my friend.
I just have one question. IF the bears make the superbowl last year with a healthy defense, that is one that is not missing mike brown and tommie harris; do the colts still win the superbowl? I think no. Its a homer opinion of course, but the facts are that the bears have won like the last hundred games in a row with mike brown in the lineup, and tommie harris is in the top 3 of DT. with pressure on the quarterback and a savy, prooven stud at safety calling out the coverages to the secondary, i think the bears stop the colts, which would make grossman a superbowl winning quarterback. as it stands, he took the bears to the superbowl and came up a little short with a severely depleated team.
Sorry guys, but ill take that over a miracle (somehow everyone forgot thats what the saints season ACUTALLY was) turnaround from a 3-13 team as a fluke, i will take the eagles struggles at face value, meaning lots of injuries and in all probablity, a similar team to the broncos last season with a capable vet whom can light it up occationally, mcnabb and plummer, and a good team with a smart coach. if mcnabb goes down one, kolb is the man and thats the end of the season, period, just like denver, a team with an uncanny resemblence to the eagles.
dallas WILL be hamstringed by their coach, and that leaves the bears and whoever comes outta the west, a division the bears played tough last year. a division that in all likelyhoood will beat up on itself, and we all know what happens to arizona when they are picked, and seattle is looking more and more like the gruden raiders after the superbowl loss. st. louis, aging, dome, and lack of defense, all that needs to be said.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Chicago has 6-10 written all over them.
The Defense – already worn from playing into February last season – won’t get them the 4-7 wins it got them last year.
No Briggs.
Better Division. ( Minnesota is going to be good )
Ridiculously tough sched.
And one other point…what was it????
Oh yeah….Rex Grossman isn’t a starting NFL QB.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:39 PM
Dude, you just compared McNabb to Plummer and Denver to the Eagles. Whaa…? Except that Denver is known as a run first-team that uses zone-blocking while Philly is the most pass-happy team in the league. There are so many things wrong with that statement I don’t know what to tell you.
And the only reason I was talking about Feeley is because you brought up McNabb’s injury problems. I still have faith that Donovan will stay healthy and we will be a force once again. Every single year people have reasons why the Eagles will suck, but we’ve won the division 5 of the last 6 years. The Eagles and Bears both have solid lines and secondaries. You guys have the better linebacking core. But on offense McNabb is MILES ahead of Grossman and I’d take Westbrook over T Jones any day. If both teams are healthy and at their best, the Eagles would win, in my opinion
July 11th, 2007 at 10:41 PM
The Colts were just a better team. Each of the AFC’s big three are better than the Bears this season, and they were last season. The Bears are a good team, no doubt, but they don’t measure up with the AFC elite.
July 11th, 2007 at 10:41 PM
And the fact that you say you have 100% faith in Grossman kills me. I guess you’re in denial about how he played last year. Poor, poor Johnny
July 11th, 2007 at 11:45 PM
Chargers on auto-pilot this year – who needs a stinkin’ coach anyway when you have the touchdown machine in LT. Bears opening game at Qualcomm will be off the hizzy.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:10 AM
Why is Woody Paige still on ESPN and Harold Reynolds is not? Oh, I fogot, it’s sportswriters circling the wagons for sportswriters. So sorry. I keep forgetting we’re talking about the lowest form of human life. Where’s the fraud Mushnick on this story? Phil The Phony……..
July 12th, 2007 at 2:42 PM
You are an rediculous steve. I wish you could read. I believe I made the point about the Eagles and Broncos regarding the future of the Eagles quarterbacking situation mirroring that of the Broncos last season. I thought that was pretty damn clear, but aparently you cant comprehend abstract comparison. Typically this ability emerges in the frontal lobe of the brain starting around age 12-15 and developes thoughout the rest of life. Good luck catching up on that. Here is what I said though.
Broncos last year had a very capable vet QB that had the ability to torch a defense in Jake Plummer, but have been growing tired with his game. Sound familiar? Oh, cause that is exactly the position the Eagles are in currently. So lets see what the Broncos did about that. Well, despite having a good vet quarterback, they went out on a limb in the draft and picked a quarterback. Once they gave Plummer a chance with a good team, and he started to blow it, Bam, Cutlertime. Now, the point I think I was making was that the Eagles would probably be the same team as LAST YEARS BRONCOS in the way their season unfolds this year. The Eagles have a prooven vet quarterback that can torch a defense when he is right, but the Eagles have grown tired of his game as well (injuries) and went out and drafted a quarterback, seemingly out of nowhere (the pick, not the selection) despite having a great quarterback. So, now the Eagles get McNabb back 100%, again, and will give him another shot with a good team, and if he blows it, or gets hurt again at all, BAM, Kolb is in, season over. YES, THIS COMPARISON WORKS, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT A COCK-E-ASS EAGLES FAN SHOULD KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR instead of being a typical moron philidelphia fan that is all knowing and a smart ass. I weep for the day you have to make your own decesions, cause with common sense like that, you wont last long. I appreciate the effort in instantaneously doing everything possible to discredit every point so that you can blather on about your team. doesnt reek of homer or anything.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:46 PM
And seriously, if you think for even a second that AJ Feely is going to see the field at all this season, especially after McNabb goes down again, you’re frickin nuts cause you don’t draft the Quarterback of the future for the franchise and let him ride the pine when your star goes down permanently, you get his ass in there and pray he can fill the void cause that’s why you drafted him, not so that he can watch AJ Feely get rectal exams by defensive linemen.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:57 PM
“projecting, and that doesn’t even include a trip to Seattle, and home games against 2006 playoff teams Seattle ”
So the Bears play Seattle at home and at Seattle?
Dallas, please. Very over-rated.
I’m counting on the rest of the division to continue to bring the suck and the Bears cruise to 10 wins.
July 12th, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Dynn apparently you have never been to a game in the northeast. The fans at arrowhead are amongst the most courteous in the league………..but does that make them the best? Absolutely not, that might be one of the least intimidating environments ive ever been in wearing my Eagle green. I’ve been to Dallas, NY, Washington, and Carolina all had more raucous fans than KC. Arrowhead is a joke a bunch of old people clapping like its a damn tennis match……just my opinion.
July 12th, 2007 at 5:15 PM
Johnny, there is something wrong in your head. You just made a blanket comparison in your earlier post. And then you say the Eagles are “tired” of McNabb’s game like you’re some kind of insider. You’re just rambling now.
And if McNabb does go down, you honestly think they’re gonna play Kolb right away? He’s the QB of the FUTURE and the Eagles have a team they think can win NOW. They think Feeley or Holcomb is capable. If they were ready to play Kolb right away they would not have traded for Holcomb.
And of course I sound like a homer, you jackass. Aren’t we arguing about each other’s teams. With all you said about the Bears you don’t sound like a “homer” either? Wow, you are simple-minded
July 12th, 2007 at 5:36 PM
It wasnt a blanket comparison, it was a pretty accurate description of the events that have already unfolded and my prediction as to the events that i see unfolding in the future for philly contingient on McNabb going down again of course. Keep personally attacking me though, you are the one that’s missing somethign cause its all made pretty good sense.
Plain and simple though, you are the dilusional one if you think the eagles are thinking win big with feely or holcomb, both are crappy backups at best, and probably will or should be regarded as emergency quarterbacks. unless the eagles are planning on having 5 qb’s on their team, one of those previously mentioned 4 will end up the emergency qb and will be a practice squad player or 4th string, however they work it out there. by your logic, you are telling me that guy will be kolb, in which case i say you’re stupid as hell. all the same principals apply to the broncos situation last year. if you cant see the easy comparison, then there is nothing i can do for you. wasnt jay cutler the qb of the future for denver? didnt they have a team that could win now? did that stop them from yanking a proven vet that had come on hard times for a totally unproven rookie that was drafted as the future?
Can you honestly tell me you arent tired of mcnabb getting injured? didnt think so. i mean, im a bears fan from chicago and i hate the eagles, but jesus christ, even i feel bad for donny and im getting tired of watching him fall down repeatedly. You’re saying they eagles are content with mcnabb? which would probably negate the need to draft kolb in the first place. getting kolb is a sign that they are tired of mcnabb’s injuries.
anyways, unless someone else responds, im done with this cause you are frickin dumb man, i dont know how else to break it to you. sorry.
i may be a bears homer, but i follow every other team that matters as well, its not like my office job keeps me busy with work ever.
July 12th, 2007 at 7:48 PM
You think you calling me dumb has any bearing at all? You try to be cute with all your petty insults, but you can’t even spell simple words like “delusional” and “principle”, but yeah I’m the dumb one. Look man, after this I’m done arguing with you too, because it’s going nowhere. This post was made about the Bears’ chances of making it back to the Super Bowl and these were my points:
- They lost Tank Johnson and could very possibly be without Lance Briggs for a long period of time.
-Thomas Jones was very valuable to that offense, and although Benson has potential, he has yet to prove anything in the NFL.
- Rex Grossman was one of the shakiest, most inconsistent QB’s in the NFL last season, so much so that people were calling him perhaps the worst QB to start a Super Bowl.
- I never guaranteed the Eagles would win the SB or anything, but I said that if McNabb stays healthy, I think the Eagles are better than Chicago.
- The whole A.J. Feeley/Holcomb/Kolb thing was brought up because you keep talking about McNabb’s injury history. All I said was Feeley and Holcomb are capable backups. Despite the fact that Feeley went 4-1 in 2002 and Holcomb led a crappy Browns team to the playoffs a few years back, you call them “emergency” QB’s. Difference of opinion I guess.
So there you go, that’s all I’m trying to say. Obviously, these are just my opinions and I have no control over what happens, as you don’t either. But if Benson turns out to be a bust and Grossman stinks up the joint again, I hope you remember this conversation.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:20 PM
Johnny, you must think that if you write 100,000 words on Da Bears it will make them win it all, that’s the only excuse I can come up with for your long-winded diatribes. Chicago in the Playoffs? Sure…. Hoisting the Lombardi trophy? Heck no.
July 12th, 2007 at 8:44 PM
Anyone? Anyone at all? I’m a little mad TBL has not weighed back in.
July 13th, 2007 at 10:21 AM
Why would he weigh back in, you’re obviously delusional. Surprise, surprise. Do I expect the Colts to repeat? No. Do I think they can? Yes. Big difference. Live in reality, hope for the best. Don’t be a homer/dumbass fan and people will respect/listen to your opinions. The Colts/Bears are in the exact same position. We both think we have the best team in our respective conference but all offseason evidence points to the contrary. So, rather than get our conceivably uninformed panties in a bunch we should lie in the weeds knowing we have great coaching staffs who will put together lineups that will help us reach the promised land.
Of course, you fuckers don’t play first-place schedules every year, and you don’t play in the AFC, so you might be fucked on both counts. Being battle-tested goes a long way in this here NFL. Oops. Maybe that’s why TBl hasn’t weighed in. He just wrote that post so people would chime in on the Bears. Mission accomplished. He has bigger game to tame in July than than Rex Grossman’s left testicle. The right one has ballooned to the size of a small moon.