College Hoops Preview: 16-20
College Basketball November 6th. 2007, 5:05pm
When pressed to answer what our favorite sport is, the answer is usually college basketball. It has the best ending to any season, and unlike college football, there are actually meaningful out of conference games. We’ll run through our Top 20 teams this week, and throw together an All-American team for this weekend. We’re actually very geeky about the sport – we’ve played in a fantasy keeper league for the last six or seven years, so expect many posts about the sport this winter.
16. Davidson – The man pictured above is Stephen Curry, son of Dell. He’s money. Averaged 21 as a freshman and the Wildcats went 29-5. All five starters are back and the early schedule – Duke, UCLA, UNC – will help come March. It’s a travesty this team isn’t ranked in either poll.
17. Pittsburgh – Aaron Gray’s gone, there isn’t a first or second team All-Big East candidate on the roster, and … this is why we like them. Like Biggs and Benjamin, and who knows, maybe athletic Sam Young finally turns into the player everyone has been blowing for two years. No expectations = success.
18. Texas A&M – Joseph Jones passed on the NBA, otherwise, they’d be an afterthought. We thought Jones was better as a sophomore, and probably was thinking too much about the NBA last year. Won’t be the case this year with Acie Law gone and Jones poised for a 20-10 All-American type campaign. Josh Carter is one of the best shooters in the country (no hyperbole). And if well-regarded sophomore Donald Sloan can run the point, the Aggies will be right there with Texas for runner-up honors in the Big 12.
19. Southern Illinois – Everyone’s expecting the Missouri Valley to take a step back – it will – but not the Salukis. Virtually this exact group nearly bounced Kansas last March, losing a 61-58 defensive battle. One key player missing is Jamaal Tatum, the MVC POY who graduated. Still, with firm defense and a fundamentally-sound offense, pencil these guys in for an NCAA berth and a first-round “upset.”
20. Kansas State – So we fell for the Michael Beasley hype and ranked them while leaving out Duke, Arizona and USC. Kill us for it. We think Beasley’s freshman success will be more Durant than Melo – individual accolades and not a deep March run. Bob Huggins is past his prime and won’t be missed. Best case scenario: Beasley is unselfihs, Bill Walker doesn’t feel slighted that he’s no longer the man, and new coach Frank Martin (he of the checkered past) can massage egos. Expect much turbulence in Manhattan.
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November 6th, 2007 at 5:07 PM
Lute’s leave of absence automatically makes Arizona a top ten team
November 6th, 2007 at 5:09 PM
that freshman point guard out of memphis is the best college point guard since allen iverson
TBl i suggest you pick him up for your fantasy league
November 6th, 2007 at 5:11 PM
Chris Paul is no longer offended by such oversights
November 6th, 2007 at 5:20 PM
No college basketball comments from me until March or at least until football is over. Good luck fellas. Sorry to be holding out my vast knowledge and insight, but the anticipation will just make it all that much better.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:20 PM
get off my jock MAJ
do you have to comment on everything i say
fucking dick rider
November 6th, 2007 at 5:25 PM
Maj, outstanding. Irish, keep up the good work.
TBL, I imagine there will be a tournament pool, right?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:28 PM
Ben60657, I have The Maj beating irishmafia in the regional finals of the tournament in the dick rider bracket.
Oh, you meant the basketball tournament. My bad.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:29 PM
I’m curious as to how one plays in a keeper college bball league. Isn’t there a bit too much turnover?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:30 PM
Stop fighting guys! If you look to your right, you will see nipple! There isn’t that nice?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:31 PM
For such a college basketball geek, you would think that you could properly identify your own Top 20….try Southern Illinois instead of putrid Illinois State.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:32 PM
Mike, in a dick riding tournament, I don’t think irishmafia (the #1 overall seed) can be beat. However, at the end of the day I would rather have a basketball tournament pool, as watching irishmafia ride dick is not on my to-do list.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:34 PM
Duke out Pitt in leads to instant loss of cred. Lucky for us they play in Dec.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:36 PM
I dated a girl that went to Davidson, they should be good, since there is nothing to do there except play basketball.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:36 PM
Yeah, because Pitt never finishes in the top 20
November 6th, 2007 at 5:37 PM
Also, I kind of hate her now, so fuck Davidson and Dell Curry’s son.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:38 PM
good one ben
now grow up and move on okay
dont spend all day thinking about what i write
November 6th, 2007 at 5:40 PM
Stephen was awesome against Maryland last March, but he still needs some help from the rest of the roster.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Hibbert.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Roy or Julius?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:54 PM
Can that really even be considered writing?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:54 PM
Don’t worry irish, it takes about two minutes.
TBL, I would also be curious as to how a keeper college basketball league works. Not only is there a lot of turnover, but there is one hell of a lot of players and you could grab some 3-point artist from Nowhere U. that would end up outscoring the vast majority of ‘name’ players.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:54 PM
I guess all the ACC teams will be in the top 15.
November 6th, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Is Mich St going to make your top ten despite loss to Grand Valley St.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:07 PM
Illinois State? I don’t think Jamal Tatum suited up for them too many times last year.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:08 PM
This is classic
“When pressed to answer what our favorite sport is, the answer is usually college basketball”
Illinois State?
BWAHAHWAHWHAHAHA!!!
I’m sorry TBL, you guys do some great stuff here, but that is a terrible mistake. love college basketball probably more than should be humanly allowed so I would like to dissect actually having Davidson in your top 16, but I’m crying on my keyboard.
Who’s your top team? The Bruins of UC Santa Barbara.
That is hysterical.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:18 PM
I may have missed something, but I believe UCSB are the Aggies.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:18 PM
TBL is a “friend” of many college basketball programs. They call it a keeper league because they get a cut of their players’ first pro contract.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:26 PM
All I care about is that George Mason will win the CAA and UNC will win the National Title, if they have to beat Illinois State to get there, then so be it. (smirk)
November 6th, 2007 at 6:32 PM
Funn Sports- I was making fun of TBL…
November 6th, 2007 at 6:32 PM
Illinois State is the Redbirds. Southern Illinois is the Salukis.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Leaving Duke and USC out won’t bite you but I think leaving ‘Zona is going to hurt you. Budinger is for real and if Kevin O’Neil can teach them some D (his specialty) then I would watch out. The one thing that will bite them is the lack of inside depth but I would probably take them over K State.
Also, what is the site that you use for this CBB fantasy league.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Dammit rs27; I figured there was something to that comment. I should read more before I speak. But fuck it; if yall comment on me yall get a comment back. Maj your a schmuck
November 6th, 2007 at 6:42 PM
Yikes. Might want to fix that Illinois State thing for Southern Illinois. Then again, neither team belongs in the top 25.
Did you watch them last year? Let me describe their offense to you.
Inbound the ball.
Pass the ball around (nearly turning it over quite a few times).
With five seconds left on the shot clock, let Jamaal Tatum go to work.
I think Bryan Mullins and Matt Shaw are solid players to go with Randall Falker, and I believe this is a tournament team, but they aren’t a top 20 team, let alone top 25, without Tatum.
On the subject of Davidson, I’m a believer that they’re a top 25 team, but I think 16 is too high. They overscheduled early in the season. I mean you take what you can get as a good mid-major — it’s just tough to get a decent team when everyone seems you coming from a mile away — but they overdid it. I’ve already got my credentials for Nov. 14 against Duke, a team that probably did belong in your Top 25.
November 6th, 2007 at 7:12 PM
It’s Joseph Jones, not James Jones. And watch out for DeAndre Jordan for the Aggies, he should get 12 and 8 for us this year.
November 6th, 2007 at 7:54 PM
What about Butler????
November 6th, 2007 at 8:17 PM
I love college basketball, too, but I’m not sure I would agree that there are more meaningful non-conference games there than in college football, at least if you define “meaningful” as having significant impact on the determination of a champion. When Ohio State plays Texas, or Oregon plays Michigan, etc., in football, it’s a *virtual* elimination game for the BCS title. In college hoops, if Georgetown beats Duke in December, it’s a nice win that boosts its NCAA resume, but unlikely to be the difference-maker in terms of getting into the tournament.
Regarding irishmafia’s first post above, Derrick Rose was indeed extremely impressive last night in the Memphis opener. The guy does it all: shoots, dishes, defends, blocks shots and hustles– and no showboating! Granted, UT-Martin was the worst team in a weak conference last year, but Memphis looked very formidable, and without Joey Dorsey. And, yes, I watched this entire game on ESPNU. Like I said, I love college basketball, especially the fact that you can watch an entire game in under an hour-and-a-half if you record it.
On Southern Illinois, do not underestimate how good that team is defensively. I got to see them several times last year, including in person in the tournament in Ohio, and I don’t think I saw another team that plays such aggressive yet disciplined in-your-shorts team defense. If not for three obvious blown calls that either took SIU points off the board or put Kansas points on the board, the Salukis would have been in the final 8 last March. Tatum is a big loss, but don’t be surprised to see SIU playing on the second weekend of the tournament again.
November 6th, 2007 at 8:24 PM
I know we all hate on Duke, but I’m not sure how they are left out. I know McRoberts is gone, but I think he actually hurt them last year..
We all know that leprachaun coach K will get this team to win games..
November 6th, 2007 at 9:17 PM
Beasley, Mayo, Love, Rose, Singler…
but nobody’s talking about Austin Freeman.
November 6th, 2007 at 9:41 PM
Duke will be extremely fun to watch this year, if nothing else. I would not be surprised if my annual birthday treat (Duke/UNC’s first matchup is always within 2 days of my birthday) ends up shattering ACC scoring records…a small balling Duke running with Roy’s boys will lead to an astronomical number of possessions. Too bad the rest of the ACC is kinda meh this year other than a potentially monster NC State team. I mean, Maryland will be maryland and BC will be…BC…but VaTech lost a couple of players due to the shooting, and Wake lost their heart and soul. Clemson/FSU/Miami will get a couple of upsets but otherwise are NIT teams (Clemson might sniff a tournament berth, but I doubt it). I’m thinking 5 bids, UNC as a number 1, Duke and State in the 3-5 range, then BC and Maryland between 6-10. GaTech could make it 6, but as good of a recruiter as Hewitt is, I am less than enamored with his coaching ability. His offensive sets seem to consist of packing 4 players in lane, then have the 5th player drive into all 5 defenders and throw up a crazy off balance shot that never goes in. In transition, they’re wonderful, but if they don’t cause turnovers, they can’t score.
All of this of course will lead up to a nearly insufferable fan situation. The UNC fans (99% of which have never stepped foot onto the UNC campus) are already too smug for words, and now the State fans are getting uppity (phear the tomato indeed). Maryland fans are still the definition of classy with a capital K, and the crazies are suffering from Ivy syndrome…i.e. 50% of the student body has no social skills or imagination because they lost their childhood to grade grubbing and ridiculous afterschool work just to get into Duke. Thankfully, Wake Forest is an island of elegance in a sea of fan douchebaggery.
November 6th, 2007 at 10:11 PM
Agreed with the above…non-conference games in basketball are entertainment for the holidays…non-conference games in football are for sorting out champions. Just a ludicrous statement, TBL. Or as Mike Tyson might say, ludicrisp.
November 6th, 2007 at 10:44 PM
You guys will regret it if you leave NC State out of your Top 20. I’ll personally remind you all year long if you fail to do so.
November 6th, 2007 at 11:11 PM
At some point this season, KSU will be considered a top ten team. Whether or not these young guys hit the wall halfway through conference season is the question. The Durant/Melo analogy on Beasley is pretty good.
The question mark for KSU is whether or not they sold out their program long term by hiring the assmonkey as coach merely to keep the Studs for one year. If he sucks, and his total lack of experience suggests this may happen, KSU will be back to finishing 10th in the league every year for a long time.
I love me some college hoops. Nothing like preseason speculation no one will recall in February! And since polls are completely meaningless in CFB, they are doubly so in College Hoops. Polls are useless. Enjoy the games.
November 6th, 2007 at 11:31 PM
Can Syracuse get some TBL love?
November 7th, 2007 at 12:09 AM
I don’t really care what non-conference games truly mean in the long run, I just know that I’m going to enjoy the hell out of Georgetown/Memphis next month.
November 7th, 2007 at 3:09 AM
Kudos to The Big Lead for their love of college hoops. I am with you on that! Definitely my favorite sport to follow. Of course it helps if you have a favorite school or alma mater (go Wright State!) who is decent to root for.
Anyway, I can’t stand watching Southern Illinois. I agree they are a Top 25 team. They play very good defense. Extremely physical. They usually have little offensive talent, but when you keep the score in the 40s to 50s you don’t need much offense.
If I were Southern Illinois fan or alum I’d be happy at well they do year in and year out, but they are the one mid-major that I like to see lose. I think they are setting back the game of basketball.
Anyway…the Big 10 continues to stink in everyting…Ohio State losing to Findlay of Ohio. The Big 10 should be dropped to Division 2 for a year.