Comments on: ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio and His Bizarre Logic on Barry Sanders

By: phatjohnsn

phatjohnsn — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:44:03 +0000

Darrell, you must be kidding. I’ll give you Mitchell throwing for big numbers for 2 years and Herman Moore having one real big year. Those are flukes really. But the Krieg and Kramer arguments are completely garbage.

Krieg was a Pro Bowler in ‘84, ‘88, and ‘89… interesting argument you have considering he didnt play with the Lions until 1994 and only for that one season.

Kramer leading them to the NFC Championship… you must be joking. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have won Super Bowls in the NFL, but that by NO MEANS meakes them good quaterbacks.

Either way Barry never had a franchise QB (even Mitchell only lasted from ‘94 to ‘97 when Chuckles Batch took over).

Thanks for playing, that was fun.

By: Darrell

Darrell — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:06:45 +0000

Krieg was a Pro Bowl QB, Kramer led them to the NFC Championship game in a run and shoot, Mitchell threw for big numbers a few years in Detroit. He also had Herman Moore, Brett Perriman, and Johnnie Morton on the field at the same time as receivers.

By: phatjohnsn

phatjohnsn — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:23:03 +0000

So… I guess the fact that they played on AstroTurf and in the dome didn’t help any of the defenses that he was playing, because we all know those non-human defensive players are faster and cut better on natural grass…

and i just wanted to throw a few names out there:
Bob Gagliano, Rodney Peete, Erik Kramer, Dave Krieg, Scott Mitchell, and Charlie Batch.

If you were wondering who all those fellas are, they are now your local community’s insurance salesmen, plumbers, etc. but were the artists formerly known as Detroit Lions quaterbacks. All these guys started at one point or another whill Barry played.

I know I’d be very scared of putting more guys in the box against that group of sniper QBs.

By: tyduffy

tyduffy — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:07:36 +0000

I think Barry was a bit overrated for a different reason, though for a different reason.

He racked up a lot of yardage, but much of it was on long runs. He would have like 12 carries for -7 yards and then bust one for 80. His big play threat can’t be denied, but they could never balance an offense around him because he wasn’t getting the consistent 4-5 yards from a normal running back. A lot of great plays but a lot of 2nd and 3rd and longs that stalled the offense as well.

By: Freezer

Freezer — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:02:05 +0000

To all those who buy the myth of Detroit’s horrible O-line: Do the names “Lomas Brown” or “Kevin Glover” mean anything to you? They should, they had nine Pro Bowls between the two of them between 1991-1998.

And frankly, outside of the outdoor thing, Salpal makes a decent point. (See also: Music & The Beatles)

By: tallguy

tallguy — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:53:17 +0000

I’m sorry, but Sanders is definitely better than Emmitt…he doesn’t attempt to kill my brain cells on a weekly basis like Smith does.

By: Darrell

Darrell — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:33:44 +0000

Sanders didn’t even stay in on goaline offense.

By: Darrell

Darrell — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:33:06 +0000

I hear alot of Sanders fans fall back on that tired excuse of him not having the advantage that Smith had with the O Line, as if anyone could run behind that line. However there’s a few things people tend to miss: 1. The 90’s Cowboys second Super Bowl was won after an 0-2 start because Emmitt was holding out. 2. Smith conistantly faced 8 or 9 man fronts while Sanders ran out of a run and shoot offense where there were often extra defensive backs at the expense of the DL and LB’s. You put Smith in a run and shoot where he was 100 times the receiver than Barry, and where he wouldn’t have to worry about as many DL’s and LB’s, he would have wound up with 200 TDS and alot more yards.

By: jgp3553

jgp3553 — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:51:07 +0000

Sal probably thinks Wilbert Montgomery was the greatest running back of all time.

By: cool_rick

cool_rick — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:49:53 +0000

Dude- by placing this idiotic interview on your site, you are, in fact endorsing SALPAL (kinda like Paypal)point of view.

Obie Trice = “sit in the can, you never ran, like barry san”