The Big East is Not to Be Trifled With! West Virginia 48, Oklahoma 28
College Football January 3rd. 2008, 9:57am
In a meaningless bowl game, who needs an expensive coach? Who needs a Heisman Trophy caliber running back? Clearly not West Virginia, which was lacking both Wednesday night in Tempe, and still absolutely buried Oklahoma, 48-28 in the Fiesta Bowl. It was 6-0 before Gossip Girl even came on. We would check over during the commercial break and two things always seemed to be happening: 1) a penalty (223 yards!) or 2) West Virginia on the move. 13-3. 20-6. This was at the point when we gave up. (And it’s a good thing, at least for the health of our TV screen: Oklahoma got within 20-15 when it inexplicably tried an onside kick and failed. WVU then scored four touchdowns on its next seven plays.) Anyone at Michigan feel like begging Rich Rodriguez to bring Noel Devine to Ann Arbor with him?
How did we not see this coming? When everything points to a lock – no interim coaches had won a bowl game, the Big East is garbage, Oklahoma was on a roll, WVU lost to Pittsburgh, blah, blah – the opposite is bound to happen. So are we to believe the same will take place tonight between Kansas and Virginia Tech? Hold your thoughts on that one for later in the day.
Just because we’d rather not spend another nanosecond giving thought to this wretched game – how about an early look at the top five teams in the country next year, in no particular order? Georgia will be there … USC will be there … Virginia Tech probably returns enough to warrant consideration … if White and Slaton return, WVU will be in the mix … and then the fifth team seems like a tossup between Ohio State (depends if all those defenders leave early), Florida (you’ll hate this, we know) and Missouri.
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January 3rd, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Florida will be there only if they can figure out how to stop a good passing team. Michigan made it look easy. GA looks real good and they have to be the favorite to win the SEC.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, Ohio St., Missouri for the top five.
Virginia Tech loses 6 seniors on defense, and probably another junior. They also lose their most dynamic offensive player in Royal.
Also, look for BYU to crash the BCS. They only lose their fullback and center on offense and two linebackers on defense. Toughest non-conference game is at Washington.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 AM
USC, Ohio State, Missouri, Georgia, WVU
top 5 for 2008 preseason poll
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Maybe it was covered but WVU has named Bill Stewart coach.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:12 AM
It was 6-0 before Gossip Girl even came on.
That’s the truest test of a blowout, my friends.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:13 AM
@TBL
McGuffie > Devine, we got ours.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I don’t know about USC. They lose their QB, a great TE, and three offensive linemen. On defense, I expect them to lose half of their d-line, all three LB’s, and a CB.
McKnight better be THAT good, if they’re going to make some noise.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 AM
You mean the same WVU that kicked the shit out of Georgia in Atlanta on Jan. 2 two years ago? You mean the same Big East that went 5-0 in bowl games last year?
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 AM
What the hell is a McGuffie? Is he anything like a Hart?
OU (although romped last night will be in the top 5)
WVU (if White returns, they have enough weapons without Slaton obviously)
Florida (because they have Superman, and this way they can still complain when they lose because they are being “targeted”)
USC (because they got “screwed” by not being in the NC game)
Georgia (because they are the best team in the country)
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:19 AM
What the hell is Gossip Girl? It is another teen drama? I honestly never knew actual men watched stuff like that.
Bob Stoops is lucky he got his national title out of the way. Big Game Bob can retire that moniker now. That was the ultimate choke job. Going for 2, onside kicks, unable to adapt blocking schemes, etc…
Holy moly, Shanoff!!! Florida loses 4 games and is probably still considered Top 10… no wait, Top 5! Good lord. That D is pretty sketchy.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:19 AM
mcknight is the next coming
heisman next year?
possible
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Flubby–38-35 hardly defines a shit-kicking. And, it was two years ago.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 AM
love “the beer truck.”
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Next year’s preseason top 6:
1) Notre Dame
2) USC
3) UGA
4) Florida
5) VT
6) tOSU
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:21 AM
This is a McGuffie.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I don’t see why a surprise onside kick is inexplicable unless you’re letting the execution speak for the decision.
Ohio State will have to be in the top 5, because they’re playing each other, and the powers that be will try to make that as close to 1-2 as is humanly possible without people openly laughing.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:25 AM
hahahahahaha. Notre Dame. That was funny.
McGuffie…blah.
OSU is probably going to get 4 of the top 10 OL recruits this year and are going to return virtually their entire team from this year (other than Gholston, Jenkins, and maybe Little Animal). They still have a decent shot at getting Terelle Pryor and will have 3 ridiculous RB’s next year. another top 5 preseason ranking should follow.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:25 AM
If WVU had done this to Ohio State is it more impressive? Probably not. If they did it to LSU it would have been more impressive, but if they had beaten Pitt they would have played Ohio State for the National Championship and Rodriguez is still coaching WVU for another week. Man that Pitt loss was just killed WVU.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Unrelated: Howard Stern is playing this great news story right now – a male teacher put this song on their myspace page.
IDIOTS!
Dumber: taunting lions.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Florida started 4 sophomores and 4 freshmen on defense. They only need to get better a little bit to contend. Their four losses came by 3,4, 12, and 6.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:27 AM
re: Onside kick
OKL defense had just shut down WVU to open the 2nd half a couple times, and it was 20-15. OKL had all the momentum. No need for the kick, let your “awesome” defense get the job done.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:27 AM
spencer,
The 4 OL recruits aren’t going to help them next year. But I agree, Ohio St. should probably be top-3. Unless all of those idiots actually DO leave for the NFL.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 AM
tedwerkin…why would it have been impressive if they did it against LSU? shredding LSU’s defense this year hasn’t been that hard (see: Arkansas, Kentucky)
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:30 AM
NSR…they’ll help. after watching Michigan’s backup right tackle get abused by Gholston this year, having OL depth is pretty damn important. Ask Georgia, theyre starting a true frosh at LT and he’s been a main reason they’re tearing it up.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 AM
@spencer096
McGuffie… blah???
When the Victors get Pryor you will be shitting your pants, as well you should. OSU fans are all the same… if McGuffie was going to OSU you would be praising the kid. HA.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Right, but Ohio St. only loses one O-Lineman–and I’m guessing they’re already fairly deep in that department.
The game at USC looms large.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:33 AM
“OKL defense had just shut down WVU to open the 2nd half a couple times, and it was 20-15. OKL had all the momentum. No need for the kick, let your “awesome†defense get the job done.” TBL
Agreed 100%. That and not exactly sure why he went for 2 so early. And the 2 point plays were horribly executed.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:34 AM
May I ask how much “Lumber” you lost on this game ?
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:35 AM
McGuffie > Devine??? HAHAHAHA, I like McGuffie, but he isn’t half as quick as Devine…nice try though, you should be happy that Pryor is coming to Big Blue, McGuffie will be a nice addition, but Pyror is the man that will take Big Blue over the top
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:37 AM
We have our own McGuffie, Brandon Saine.
Rumor has it, Pryor is leaning towards OSU. Guys at the Army Game are recruiting him pretty hard…it helps when you have recruits get invited.
Even if Pryor goes to Michigan, it won’t make any difference. OSU still has the advantage on both sides of the ball. if Pryor chooses Mich, he’ll be fucking up his pro prospects thats for sure.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 AM
May I ask how much “Lumber†you lost on this game ?
wasn’t so much this game, but other than a Georgia hit, i missed on:
Illinois, Clemson, Indiana, Wisconsin, Colorado, all within the last 72 hours. Prior to that i had my best week ever on bowls, so it’s not super terrible. depressing, still.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:39 AM
@ Super5
Texas RB’s > Florida RB’s, sorry…
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:42 AM
You bet on Illinios, Indiana and Wisconsin? Are you a freaking masochist?
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:42 AM
@spencer096
Saine
Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 200 lbs
Forty: 4.4 secs
Bench max: 265 pounds
Vertical: 31 inches
McGuffie
Ht: 6-foot-0
Wt: 188 lbs
Forty: 4.32 secs
Bench max: 355 pounds
Vertical: 41 inches
Sorry bro…
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:42 AM
mcguffie is a complete tool. watching interviews with that kid is 2 parts pathetic and 1 part entertaining like a train wreck
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Yes, Flubby. The “same” WVU team (from TWO years ago) that “kicked the shit out” of UGA by what, three points?
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Mags…sorry bro, but Saine has actually played college football and we know what he can do (i.e. score long ass TD’s).
high school highlight tapes don’t mean jack shit.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Bob Stoops has now lost four straight bowl games and I’m pretty sure he was favored in at least three (I forget what the line was before that USC bloodbath in Miami)…at what point does he catch catching some shit from the Sooner fans?
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 AM
when he starts losing to texas.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:56 AM
bye bye cam cameron
the big tuna is at it again
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 AM
I hear ND is getting this kid in 12 years, so they should be #1 now.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Next McGuffie
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Magglio – please tell me you’re not comparing 40 times and height/weight as an argument for who’s better. I love when people do this. I would prop up Jasper Sanks. Ever heard of him? Of course not. He was a national top 5 RB recruit 8-10 years ago and went to Georgia as “the next Herschel.” He sucked. Never even graduated. I’d let the guy play a year before you start touting him.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:06 AM
@atlantasportsfan
Well it is a little like the combine in that it is the data you have projected to the results you get. So if you compare highschool numbers and try to project them out you can dream. I like our chances with McGuffie just as spencer likes his with Saine… just as that one WV fan likes his chances with Devine… let’s face it they are all one knee crack from being nothing, but if you are trying to take away my ability to dream of a Pryor + McGuffie, Rodriguez spread backfield you can eat my ass.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 AM
All I’m sayin’ is that WVU’s win wasn’t much of a surprise to people who pay attention to this sort of thing year in, year out. Bidness as usual.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Flubby – Easy to say in hindsight. Did you venture a prediction anywhere prior to the game?
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 AM
TBL -
I believe he is referencing the WVU/Georgia game from a couple years back.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:14 AM
This Bill Stewart guy looks to me like what Charlie Weis and Lou Holtz’s love child would probably look like.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Again Steve Slaton is gone in a big game and the offense doesn’t suffer at all…I’m interested in which NFL team is going to take him two rounds too high someday
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 AM
@ Haters of WVU…I think the smart money was on WVU, especially getting points. They were a national title contender all year, and all of last year. There offense is unbelievable, and has been the same for the past few years, except they added Devine. I don’t think many predicted the D to play that way, so that was a plus. They have an experienced team that has been to the BCS 3 years in a row. They lost to Pitt, mostly because White was out most of the game. USC lost to Stanford, and half of the board wants to crown them National Champs. For some reason, everyone decided to jump of this bandwagon. Don’t blame the coaching thing either, he has been trying to bolt for the last 3 years, this team is used to it. Besides, they only play they run is the zone read/triple option.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 AM
They should have still been able to beat Pittsburgh with Owen Schmitt at quarterback. But I get your other point. ESPN and company are losing it because USC wiped out a non-BCS-worthy Illinois team. Could you imagine what they would be saying if USC did what West Virginia did to Oklahoma in the second half? So now, USC didn’t do anything that Georgia, Missouri, AND West Virginia didn’t do in their games. Oh, but USC is clearly the best team in the country and deserves to pass up all of them and Ohio State and LSU. Give me a break. Save the spin for Meet the Press.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:03 PM
WVU will be in the top 5 without Slaton because look what happened last night. I think the bigger loss is Schmitt. That guy is an animal.
Did anyone happen to catch the College football postgame on ESPN?
Rece Davis- Lou, you’ve said that LSU’s defense isn’t that good. Did you hear about all the awards I just told you Dorsey won?
Lou Holtz – Yeah, but all those awards aren’t going to help them against the Illini.
Rece – You mean Ohio state.
Lou – Yeah, um, yeah, Ohio State, Illinois, whatever.
Hilarious.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:53 PM
@Magglio
Your dead right Texas RBs stomp Florida’s…A Pete, Eric Dickerson, Earl Campbell, Ladanian Tomlinson…WOW…still thought Noel devine is more complete then McGuffie…sticking to my story
January 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 PM
McGuffie’s white??? Why are we even debating this…
January 3rd, 2008 at 2:20 PM
the big east is definitely bad this year, but you forgot that the big 12 is worse than the MAC. kick back and enjoy va tech’s dismantling of kansas tonight.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:37 PM
I’m not making a big deal out of it or anything, but I don’t think WVU turned out to be a fraud. Anything can happen in a rivalry game like their shitshow against Pitt. Even Dave Wannstedt coaching well.
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:20 PM
They aren’t a fraud but WVU expected to sleepwalk through that Wannstache game and they paid for it by losing.
On the other hand, we can retire the term ‘Big Game Bob’ moniker for Stoops unless we can attach ‘Bombs’ at the end of it.